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post Feb 25 2021, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Feb 24 2021, 05:55 PM)
Understood but this is the first time I am coming across that something from the underworld could be smelled.
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My friend last time, after helping her, i went home. On the way, she messaged me, she said "if smell cigar, don't panic. That's the datuk", because she asked him to look over me while going back. How true, i dunno but i didn't smell anything. She showed me a picture of some deity that looks like a middle aged man. I don't know where is the picture and what's his name.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 24 2021, 04:29 PM)
Bro, no need deduction all, I already know when I pass on what will happen, go downstairs to the basement and report to Shared Service Center.

I would say there are fallen angels that have become Demons, and there are Demons that already existed. You can find an earlier post in this thread on how I first time and only time had contact with a Demon. It is such a vile and evil existence that I do not want to ever ever come in contact with one ever again. I was vomiting from the vileness. Also, just for general info, a lot of "hungry ghosts" wandering out there is from religion that does not pray or have an altar for their ancestors.
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Based on your knowledge, do humans reincarnate / reborn?
Do other life forms (animals) reincarnate / reborn?
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I got one story to tell.

Was staying in Desa Setapak, housemate all went back for holiday.
Was the only person on 3rd floor. At about 2.xxam woke up to the sound of chain dragging on the road, very certain the sound is coming in front of the house, initially i though must be those mobile hawker stall putting chain to lock their stall so i ignore it. But sound continues on for too long(more than 5min). Got curious so hop down from double bed and go near window to see who the f**k making those noise.

Saw no activity on the road and the chain sound stopped. I remember telling myself i must hallucinating so i return back to bed, close my eyes and the sound come back again. Suddenly the room become very cold, i got scared so i cover my feet till head in the blanket. Eventually i fall back to sleep. Next day go outside check neighbours house if got mobile hawker stall nearby, but did not find any.

So who is the one dragging the metal chain on the road late at night?

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post Feb 25 2021, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 24 2021, 07:11 PM)
I know that, you, me, Ahmad, Siva, Robert......all will become spirit, and report downstairs.
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From the Christian perspective, after the Day of The Lord/God = Year AD, people die and then their spirits will go to sleep to await resurrection by God/Jesus/His-Spirit for heavenly blessings for the believers or for hellish judgment for the unbelievers. IOW, people do not die and then become spirits or ghosts, eg the "false" belief in Ghost/Ancestor Worship.
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post Feb 25 2021, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Feb 25 2021, 01:04 PM)
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From the Christian perspective, after the Day of The Lord/God = Year AD, people die and then their spirits will go to sleep to await resurrection by God/Jesus/His-Spirit for heavenly blessings for the believers or for hellish judgment for the unbelievers. IOW, people do not die and then become spirits or ghosts, eg the "false" belief in Ghost/Ancestor Worship.
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Well, that is your belief. But I do know your God exists because I've seen the beings you guys call "Angels" a few times. I've never seen their boss, but since they exist, then by inference, their Boss exists too. I also know beings like the Four Face Buddha exist too, because I've seen them. The only difference is I can look directly at an Angel and tell it's form, for a Buddha, it gives off such a bright yellow light that you can't stare directly at it (normally what happens is during prayers, when very powerful monks invite the buddha down to the statues when the buddha arrives, you are blinded by the light and also warm heat, until they go into the statue)

I think generally for people with the special gift to be able to view the other worlds that normal people cannot, in Asian culture, other people will only ask them if they can see spirits (ghost), but the real facts are, we can see a lot of other stuff. There are other beings out there that we do not know what they are, and a lot of times, they are also geologically bound. I give you an example. I only see Dato Kong in South East Asia. When I travel to Melbourne or Auckland, I don't see them there. In some of the older forest in Malaysia, they have the "Penduduk" or "Orang Bunian", but you don't see them in Europe or the Americas. You see other beings there that you don't see in Malaysia.

I think I've been very lucky due to work, I was able to travel to all corners of the World, even to some places that maybe people don't even like to go, like Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Congo, and I've seen my share of weird shit. But because I've had this ability since I was born, it feels normal to me, but there are still times where you get "surprised" . It's just like watching a scary movie, no matter how many times you have watched any scary movie, you will still kena the jump scare.

I'm in my 40s, and I've learned to look at telltale signs when there are supernatural beings at a place. I'm also able to tell when another person can also see the things I see. That is why I know a religious conman when I see one. This is a PSA for all the K'tards here, a lot of the Bomoh, Sifus, Tangki, Feng Shui Master out there are conman (or conwoman). So don't be superstitous because you will soon part with your hard earned monies.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 25 2021, 08:32 PM)
Well, that is your belief. But I do know your God exists because I've seen the beings you guys call "Angels" a few times. I've never seen their boss, but since they exist, then by inference, their Boss exists too.
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From the Christian perspective, demons/Satan can impersonate as bosses or idol gods who have their own "false" prophets/witches/mediums/sifus/bomohs/etc; ... or can impersonate as departed ghosts/spirits or etc.
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post Feb 26 2021, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 10:41 AM)
Just to share something
Someone told me i also can nego with my negative energy/debtors. cause a lot of our current life sufferings are related to them. I owe them huge debts for the accumulated past lives mistakes. Repent to them and offer something to them. they say can feel something whether these creditors accept the offer.
I tried this method. do more merits. i dont know work or not but got a job not long ago. less arguments with people around me and sometimes got unexpected windfall.
I focus on chanting NAMO AMITOFO and dedicate merits to them. and also encourage them to chant with me if possible. explained to them the benefits of the chanting and how to get out from our current 6 realm endless sufferings. not sure will that help them or not but I feel its better for me to share with them how to fish rather than always feed them fish despite i owe them.
And advise on this? thks
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Hmmmm, it's a little bit more complicated than that. What you are doing is effective to a certain extent. Every year, the specific group of debtors is different, if to explain in layman term, let's classify the Debtors into HR (High Risk), MR (Medium Risk), LR (Low Risk), and OL (Outlier - extremely rare but jialat if he comes that year)

So for example, if this year, your Debtors are HR1, HR2, HR3, MR1, LR1, then that year you will be jialat, also you need to couple with your luck that year. if you luck is good, then maybe still ok, if coincidently your luck also bad that year, then really jialat. So in this case, your chanting will probably work on the LR1 but not the rest. So how doest luck play a part in all this. Example HR1 + HR2 means one of the "Gate" you need to cross this year is an automobile accident. If your luck is good, then you might come out of this automobile accident with only a broken leg. If your luck is no good then maybe you get multiple fractures of all limbs, and your spine kena and got mobility issues. Worst case is can die.

So if another year, your Debtors are MR1, LR1, LR2, LR3. Then your prayers would be able to kow tim the debtors. Example MR1+LR2 means you will lose a certain amount of money this year (can be due to investment or kena scam or something that will cause you to come out with a bunch of monies which you never plan in your budget). So when you pray, the effect maybe left MR1 only, so the seriousness of the issue is reduce. So maybe instead of maybe roof leaking causing your whole house appliance rosak and wiring rosak, you only burn out your expensive TV and audio system.

There is a ritual that I do just before the beginning of the lunar year to pay off all the debtors (sorry, I cannot share with you). What this does it, example this year I have HR1,MR1, MR2, LR1, LR2, when the ritual is done, it lessens the severity to become MR1, LR1, LR2, LR3, LR 4.

There are also some rituals out there to boost your luck or borrow luck, I seriously Do Not recommend anyone to do this. Every person's total luck in life is predetermined and is scattered thru out your lifetime to where you need your luck the most. Example is, a person at age 42 will meet with an accident, the luck is distributed at that point so that he can survive the accident. If at 35 he go listen to some bomoh, crackpot sifu say can boost the luck or borrow luck, basically it means to bring forward the luck from your future to use. So at 35 years old, that fella kena 4D jackpot...but then when he reach 42 years old, when he kena the accident, he was suppose to survive, but because he already use the luck, he end up passing away in that accident.

Today is Friday, so not much meeting line up today, I got time to write so long....tonight colleague ask to go eat Malahotpot...........I really love it but one of the things i hate is even if we put our jackets and all in the basket, we will still end up smelling like a walking hot pot after exiting the restaurant.



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post Feb 26 2021, 01:22 PM

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After death, do humans reincarnate / reborn?
Do other life forms (animals) reincarnate / reborn?
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 10:41 AM)
Just to share something
Someone told me i also can nego with my negative energy/debtors. cause a lot of our current life sufferings are related to them. I owe them huge debts for the accumulated past lives mistakes. Repent to them and offer something to them. they say can feel something whether these creditors accept the offer.
I tried this method. do more merits. i dont know work or not but got a job not long ago. less arguments with people around me and sometimes got unexpected windfall.
I focus on chanting NAMO AMITOFO and dedicate merits to them. and also encourage them to chant with me if possible. explained to them the benefits of the chanting and how to get out from our current 6 realm endless sufferings. not sure will that help them or not but I feel its better for me to share with them how to fish rather than always feed them fish despite i owe them.
And advise on this? thks
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u reap what u sow, what u are practicing is your si fu teaching and not buddha teaching ....
u cant nego with your debtor, u born as human, your debtor maybe be in other realm or as human also cos they also got their own karma too ...
this is just some kind of 'imaginary karma', what u did in the past is already is a fact, u cannot do anything about it ...
so what u need to do now is dont repeat the same thing n just do good n not to harm/hurt anybody ....

all pureland sect practice chanting amitofo or kuan yin but this is to 'connect' with amitofo or kuan yin....
so they can get born in amitabha buddha pureland or the western paradise....
actually those 'dedicate merit' is a vow that if u really get enlighten u will vow to come back to 'soha world' to save them ...
so those 'dedicate merit' is not to 'contra' your bad karma or pay your debt to your debtor ...
in the end still is ...... u reap what u sow .... bruce.gif
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post Feb 26 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 01:33 PM)
OL tu apa ya? People that I killed previous life ka?
I was told that many things cannot simply help people cause later you have to endure their karma. Betul ka? Many people say the same to me. Those master will tell me, help people must use wisdom. Advise and share but don't help. Unless you have the power to absorb their karma with minimum effect. Or your merits is infinite like Guan Yin or Amitofo. Then can help.
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no such thing, karma cannot be absorb, they can only just transfer to good or bad karma ....
karma is just a manifestation of the interaction of cause n effect with condition ...

most people do good deed will get good karma, this is called 'fook tuck' and not 'kung tuck' ...
'kung tuck' is about the wisdom of understanding in 'sunyata' or emptiness ...or called as 'prajna' in Sanskrit ...
so those amitofu/kuan yin merit is about their level of wisdom in sunyata ...



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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 03:16 PM)
Your opinion is interesting. Maybe buddha didn't teach because it's not the path to attain nirvana.

On one occasion the Buddha was staying with a group of disciples in a Simsapa (Indian Rosewood) forest in Kosambi. He reached down picking up a handful of leaves. He then asked those gathered: What is greater in number, the leaves in my hand or those in the trees?

The disciples replied “The leaves in your hand are few, the trees have many more.

“Just as the leaves in the trees are more numerous, the things that I know from direct knowledge are far more numerous than what I teach as my Dhamma. The reason I do not teach these other things is that they are not a part of my Dhamma, they are not related to my Dhamma, and they do not support the principles of a life integrated with the Eightfold Path.

However, I do have a weird encounter while using this method. Hard to explain in details but somehow, I am always grateful for everything. Also grateful for your opinion too.
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actually buddha did not teach the path to nirvana cos it is 'unspeakable'....
bcos he need to teach the dharma so he still need to use some word to explain it, so he choose the "negation way" ...
he only pointed out....'is not this', 'is not that', 'not like this', 'not like that' ......
eg like the heart sutra, u only see the word no eye no ear no smell and bla bla bla ... no this, no that, not this, not that ...
so the important point is for u to find out brows.gif


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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 03:42 PM)
Need to learn more from you. I just a normal guy that don't understand the deep meaning of all the sutras. That's why I choose the easiest way just chant Namo Amitofo. Sounds easy but not easy.
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actually which path to practice is up to u .....
u reap what u sow, same as, your path, your journey n you create your own destiny ... icon_rolleyes.gif
btw im not pureland sect n i dont believe in those western paradise .... icon_idea.gif
i just explain what i know tongue.gif

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post Feb 26 2021, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Feb 26 2021, 01:33 PM)
OL tu apa ya? People that I killed previous life ka?
I was told that many things cannot simply help people cause later you have to endure their karma. Betul ka? Many people say the same to me. Those master will tell me, help people must use wisdom. Advise and share but don't help. Unless you have the power to absorb their karma with minimum effect. Or your merits is infinite like Guan Yin or Amitofo. Then can help.
Any comments?
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Outliers are for when you really did some seriously evil shit in your past life. So that is why I say it's very rare. About helping people, I think it's more of being smart in real life than anything. For example, I actually have a preference, I see those kids that get really good marks but are too poor to continue studies into University, I normally will help those, not because I want to get good karma or anything, its just that I was in the same situation back when I wanted to go to Uni and a samaritan from the Hainan association actually sponsored my studies. I knew the feeling of helplessness of the parents and also the kid.

When you help others, don't go and help hoping to get merit, that defeats the purpose, help because you want to help or make a change in the other person's life....but of course, you need to be smart, example, if you help out a habitual gambler, you might invite a lot of unnecessary problem to yourself. and you wont make his situation better, he might make your situation worse.
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 26 2021, 01:22 PM)
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Yes they do, and they go back into one of the 6 path (every time I think about the 6 paths I think of Virgo Shaka and his Rikudō Rinne / 六道輪廻)
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I been reading your stuff... dayum, u are the real deal eh? Everything u mentioned is on point as to what I've been learning. I just had to login and say awesome sharing!

For the rest, to understand more of the so called SSC u can try watch the movie Along with the Gods. Part 1 is simpler to understand and if u also part 2 of the movie it is much much more complex. And in the movie it will show that hell is not all about fire fire and more fire.... There is also cold, silence etc.

The movie Keepers of Darkness explains exactly what my friend had to deal with. Hahaha.

There is also another k drama series called Master's Sun. It's about a lady who can communicate and nego with them. In the series, I was told to notice how non of the spirit speaks. That's exactly how it is according to my friend. What the spirit usually wants so that they may move on is usually simple, like send a bouquet of white roses to a certain someone w a msg.

Keep up the sharing!
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QUOTE(Sic_def2020 @ Feb 27 2021, 10:11 AM)
I been reading your stuff... dayum, u are the real deal eh? Everything u mentioned is on point as to what I've been learning. I just had to login and say awesome sharing!

For the rest, to understand more of the so called SSC u can try watch the movie Along with the Gods. Part 1 is simpler to understand and if u also part 2 of the movie it is much much more complex. And in the movie it will show that hell is not all about fire fire and more fire.... There is also cold, silence etc.

The movie Keepers of Darkness explains exactly what my friend had to deal with. Hahaha.

There is also another k drama series called Master's Sun. It's about a lady who can communicate and nego with them. In the series, I was told to notice how non of the spirit speaks. That's exactly how it is according to my friend. What the spirit usually wants so that they may move on is usually simple, like send a bouquet of white roses to a certain someone w a msg.

Keep up the sharing!
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Some of the movies might actually have employed "consultants" that have the same ability as me and a few others here have. To be honest, our ability is not exactly "rare". I've watched Keeper of Darkness and then showed the movie to my mom and my family....that movie I can confirm someone "in the know" was consulting for them as some of the scenes in the movie are like right out of my family's own experience (all except for the spirit talking part).

And yes, the SSC downstairs is not exactly fire and brimstone.........there are desserts, there are winter wastelands.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 25 2021, 08:32 PM)
I only see Dato Kong in South East Asia. When I travel to Melbourne or Auckland, I don't see them there. In some of the older forest in Malaysia, they have the "Penduduk" or "Orang Bunian", but you don't see them in Europe or the Americas. You see other beings there that you don't see in Malaysia.
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I thought the Westerners have the equivalent of fairies and elves for the orang bunian? biggrin.gif
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I thought the Westerners have the equivalent of fairies and elves for the orang bunian?  biggrin.gif
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I've never seen Elves or Fairies before, so I can't really comment. I've seen orang Bunian before in the jungle behind UKM Bangi, so I can say yes, they do exist. I've been to Arizona before and I've seen beings that are like a guardian deity of the place I guess, and yes, it was on the Native Americans land.
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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 27 2021, 02:50 PM)
Some of the movies might actually have employed "consultants" that have the same ability as me and a few others here have. To be honest, our ability is not exactly "rare". I've watched Keeper of Darkness and then showed the movie to my mom and my family....that movie I can confirm someone "in the know" was consulting for them as some of the scenes in the movie are like right out of my family's own experience (all except for the spirit talking part).

And yes, the SSC downstairs is not exactly fire and brimstone.........there are desserts, there are winter wastelands.
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Yes we believe so.

There is another part about having to go to underworld or another realm. It seems that time there runs different from our realm. I forgot exactly but it's something like 1 day in hell (coz sometimes he gotta go nego or seek permission w 'someone' ) is actually just like an hour in our realm.

In a way, it is as if you guys have the permission or ability the travel back in time and even forward in time to check on the result of whatever that you may be doing to tweak some stuff in a person's life. It is very hard work and very delicate matters.


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QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 26 2021, 01:16 PM)
Hmmmm, it's a little bit more complicated than that. What you are doing is effective to a certain extent. Every year, the specific group of debtors is different, if to explain in layman term, let's classify the Debtors into HR (High Risk), MR (Medium Risk), LR (Low Risk), and OL (Outlier - extremely rare but jialat if he comes that year)

So for example, if this year, your Debtors are HR1, HR2, HR3, MR1, LR1, then that year you will be jialat, also you need to couple with your luck that year. if you luck is good, then maybe still ok, if coincidently your luck also bad that year, then really jialat. So in this case, your chanting will probably work on the LR1 but not the rest. So how doest luck play a part in all this. Example HR1 + HR2 means one of the "Gate" you need to cross this year is an automobile accident. If your luck is good, then you might come out of this automobile accident with only a broken leg. If your luck is no good then maybe you get multiple fractures of all limbs, and your spine kena and got mobility issues. Worst case is can die.

So if another year, your Debtors are MR1, LR1, LR2, LR3. Then your prayers would be able to kow tim the debtors. Example MR1+LR2 means you will lose a certain amount of money this year (can be due to investment or kena scam or something that will cause you to come out with a bunch of monies which you never plan in your budget). So when you pray, the effect maybe left MR1 only, so the seriousness of the issue is reduce. So maybe instead of maybe roof leaking causing your whole house appliance rosak and wiring rosak, you only burn out your expensive TV and audio system.

There is a ritual that I do just before the beginning of the lunar year to pay off all the debtors (sorry, I cannot share with you). What this does it, example this year I have HR1,MR1, MR2, LR1, LR2, when the ritual is done, it lessens the severity to become MR1, LR1, LR2, LR3, LR 4.

There are also some rituals out there to boost your luck or borrow luck, I seriously Do Not recommend anyone to do this. Every person's total luck in life is predetermined and is scattered thru out your lifetime to where you need your luck the most. Example is, a person at age 42 will meet with an accident, the luck is distributed at that point so that he can survive the accident. If at 35 he go listen to some bomoh, crackpot sifu say can boost the luck or borrow luck, basically it means to  bring forward the luck from your future to use. So at 35 years old, that fella kena 4D jackpot...but then when he reach 42 years old, when he kena the accident, he was suppose to survive, but because he already use the luck, he end up passing away in that accident.

Today is Friday, so not much meeting line up today, I got time to write so long....tonight colleague ask to go eat Malahotpot...........I really love it but one of the things i hate is even if we put our jackets and all in the basket, we will still end up smelling like a walking hot pot after exiting the restaurant.
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Hahaha... same case with Izakaya in Japan during winter. You go in for a meal and come out smelling like the restaurant which I fret most. Worst part is all your clothes smell like that even till your underwear. shakehead.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(calodin @ Feb 27 2021, 02:50 PM)
Some of the movies might actually have employed "consultants" that have the same ability as me and a few others here have. To be honest, our ability is not exactly "rare". I've watched Keeper of Darkness and then showed the movie to my mom and my family....that movie I can confirm someone "in the know" was consulting for them as some of the scenes in the movie are like right out of my family's own experience (all except for the spirit talking part).

And yes, the SSC downstairs is not exactly fire and brimstone.........there are desserts, there are winter wastelands.
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Will keep that in mind to watch this Nick Cheung Movie. Is it only in Mandarin or Canto version also available?

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