How do u get/upgrade to silver GWC card?

There is a difference category of Silver GWC card by the numbering in the silver card. what is the different?

What is the benefits of having silver GWC card?

How to upgrade to gold GWC card?

Wah Rm100 to RM2000 each hand is a lot. Majority of time u win or loss? what is yr biggest winning encounter?

Just wondering how do rich people bring so much money to gamble? thru what kinds of ways (eg cashout from casino cashier. thru the casino cashier is there any ways of taking cash out besides credit card/ atm card and is there any hidden charges incurred and what is the maximum cash to take out? or just bring cash?

i think it is a kind of club for u to hang out right. entertainment...

This post has been edited by ankw: Dec 3 2007, 01:59 PM

In my point of view,CSOD (Security Dept) usually catch cheater thru three ways :

(a) Follow the money

If the guy places an unsual high stake bet,usually the pit boss will asks GWC from him to login the table system so the CSOD peoples can trace his record and betting history to verify whether this guy is a valid punter or cheater. If them think this guy got something tak betul,they just monitoring him closely and send a team of PB (Polis Bantuan) take him to security office if neccesary. The CSOD interrogation office located next to the Circus Palace entrance and next to the middle Starworld entrance (beside the toilet).

(b) Complaint from pit boss or croupier

These peoples who makan gaji with Casino de Genting will alert CSOD if something wrong happened.

© Tip off from public

Someone can call anonymous casino tip off line to alert the cheating and claim bonus.

Their cctv got slow motion monitoring mah,sure can see the card movement,unless you are David Copperfield apprentice or world class cheater lah then that is different story..

i dislike gambling especially like genting ! If you understand how gambling works u wont gamble. You only gamble for a 1% chance to win ! The casino makes like few million and he let 1 million back to winner. They make 10millions give back 1million they make 9 mil. What you are doing is just buying a hope to win. Good luck


Imagine this if u took the money and put in some investment or run some business there's a higher possibility for u to make more money. But gambling is either chance/luck or something

This post has been edited by Velocity: Dec 3 2007, 04:11 PM

I placed 2k per hand on Baccarat three years ago,then the A.M. gave me a form with his recommendation to upgrade the Silver GWC at the GWC Centre outside Circus Palace. These pit boss hoh,tengok money only. If you keep betting more than 1k chip each hand like small matter,they will give you silver GWC. Maybe you can tell the pit boss "captain,i got 20k in my pocket now and i wanna show-hand one shot,these table limit 7k kacang putih,give me a silver GWC..!! "

Not much different. As i know when you first get the silver GWC you been assigned "28",which mean you can't bring two green GWC member to IR like other "21" does,futhermore you need to masuk IR for certain times and accumulate certain points in a year to be able renew your silver GWC to "21" next year.

The benefits ah,naik skyway no need q-up at skyway station,can park your car at Highland Hotel car park,masuk IR. Actually IR there also not so special,just the environment more better only. Got some terra cotta warriors at the entrance,four stupid dragon at the front and end of IR,got 5k yellow chip exchange,all RM100 note cashout at cashier cage,toilet cleaner,mango/peach juice more delicious..

How to upgrade to gold GWC? No idea and i don't care neither. I heard inside VIP there got alot of ghost,seldom got people win money there. Maybe got dracula,blood sucker,kiong see,small ghost,guai zai inside?

Usually i bring 2-3k to casino bok sat,most of the time i place RM200 just like other people did. Maybe to some people RM200 just kacang putih amount,but if losing streak happened RM1000 may gone within 5 minutes. Frankly,most of the time i loss. The reason very simple,because i am greedy just like most gamblers. Everytime i wanna win at least 5k,otherwise i won't turun bukit. Biggest winning in one day? 13k. Luck is very important,when you are in damn good luck,whatever you bet you will win. There got one Baccarat shoe i won 42 hands loss 19 hands with RM500 per hand. That was definitely Player shoe,all red color one,so i just keep bet player like other peoples,team spirit. Then got one time i bet RM100 after opening shoe PPBBBP,i guess that was good shoe so i just double-up (ma zhu xiong)..the outcome? RM100 turn into RM6400,sixty-four times..the result PPBBBPPPPPPPPB..because that's 7k limit table,i can't bet RM6400 anymore,so i just bet RM100 next hand and masuk pocket RM6300 the winning..Most of the time we will lose in Baccarat,but sometime the trend definitely predictable,either whole shoe Banker or hampir semua Player or long streaks..I guess those always play Baccarat understand what i mean..That is the damn time the odds in favor of our side but not Uncle Lim..When the shoe cantik,hantam kao kao;when the shoe teruk,cabut lari cepat..

ATM card withdrawal thru cashier cage is up to 5k or your bank limit,credit card up to 15k with 1.6% charged by casino..How do rich people bring so much money to gamble? Bring cash lah,some of them even with whole briefcase full of RM100 note. Just go to cashier cage,throw all the money into the box,within 5 minutes the cashier will gives you 10k value red crystal chips. Some of them just keep the crystal chips,write down the serial number on the chips,bring it home and bring back to casino next time,no need bring cash loh. In case the crystal chips kena curi,just call Casino de Genting to suspend that particular serial number crystal chips loh,simple. Cash out huge amount of money? The casino writes a cheque for you loh,or bank transfer to your account also can. It just a small matter,just afraid you don't have any money to cash out..

ah... ic...
thanks alot. appreciate all your insight on those security things (all your other post as well)
Not that I want to cheat lol. Just curious how they handle cheaters.

there are alot of different worldcard silver card. some ending with 21, 21(9), 21(1), V etc. what is the different among them.
regarding the atm card withdrawal is there any surcharge for withdrawal?
what is crystal chips? what is the different between the crystal chip and the betting chips?
why do some people would want to take crystal chips home instead of money?
what if rich people want to take millions of money to gamble?
what denomination does crystal chip have?
what is the min amount cash out in order to the casino to write cheque or bankin?
with silver card must be collecting alot of genting points than the green card? is it?
how does the genting points being given to the players, green card or silver? according to what system?
till today how much have being invested in gambling win or loss estimate?
Have u enter those vip or vvip rooms before and what is like in the rooms? what is there min bet or max bet per hand?

This post has been edited by ankw: Dec 3 2007, 09:48 PM

I don't know what are the differences between silver GWC 21,21(9),21(1) or else. As long as i can use it to masuk IR or no need to q-up for skyway on the weekend that is good card.

ATM card withdrawal at cashier cage has no surcharge.

How to describe leh,you go cashier cage ask the cashier lenglui show you the 10k value crystal chip lah. Just tell her she is very pretty,i bet the cashier girl will more than happy show the crystal chip to you for 2 seconds. You throw your hard earn money at least 10k into cashier cage box,the cashier will gives you one red color 10k value crystal chip,throw the crystal chip on the betting table to change it to betting chips then you can start either you hantam Uncle Lim kao kao or Uncle Lim sapu all you money.

The crystal chip denomination got 10k red color one and 1k blue color. Because some peoples don't wanna carry 100k cash (1000 pieces RM100 note) go home and come to casino next time mah,so they just carry 10 pieces 10k crystal chips loh,convenient.

So you think millionaire will simply bring million of dollars in cash to casino to gamble? Sure no lah. There are two options for super-rich,one is casino junket while another is Resort World Berhad - Casino Marketing Department. In the Grand Lisboa Macau,you can't even go into some private room without introduce by casino junket. As i know this casino junket can takes credit one,which mean you deposit money into their company account,then their man inside the casino will gives you cash chips. While the RWB's Casino Marketing Department lead by their S.V.P. Jeffrery Teoh will handle all your transportation,accomodation,F&B needs. Don't worry,if you are a high roller punter,these casino junket and casino marketing guys will come to you and not you go find them. They want your money..!!

Want casino writes you a cheque? I don't know but at least 100k gua. I did saw an uncle cash out 130k then go bank-in at Maybank downstair,nowaday where got peoples take huge money turun bukit one,throw all the money into cash deposit machine at Maybank or CIMB lah,or Public Bank in First World Hotel also can. One of the reason besides safety is because those rich-rich peoples wanna legalize their winning with casino cheque to prevent LHDN investigate their mystical income.

Aiya those Genting Points useless one lah,if they give you spend it reserve room loh,if they don't give forget about it loh. Want the Genting Points for what?! Want money mah..!!

The VIP room got two entrance,one beside the IR Bureau de Change and another at the Highland Hotel lobby. Unlike oriental theme in IR,it is Rome theme in VIP room. Baccarat in VIP will gives the highest bet punter see the cards slowly himself rather than the croupier opens for you in IR. If not mistaken the min bet is RM200 while the max bet is RM200k. VIP room is the place where most peoples loss all their business or property and jump off Ulu Kali hill,probably because too many ghosts inside?

u mean any different bank ATM Card no surcharge? No MEPS charges?
Withdrawal is according per transaction or to max perday withdrawal?

what is casino junket? what is the min deposit in to the account?
can silver card holder go into VIP room?
have u ever try to play in VIP ROOM? is the service and food there better?

do u need to maintain a certain genting point in order to maintain the silver card?
how many points need to maintain?
How many genting points accumulated per trip or perday?
How many genting points u have? 10k points


This post has been edited by ankw: Dec 3 2007, 10:47 PM

What is junket?

How much can withdraw per day from the casino cage and hidden surcharge eg mep charges etc?

Regarding the genting points how much can accumulate per day maximum?

How much points do u have 5,000 genting points, etc

often need to follow people in bacarrat game. Then you can win.
I follow 1 apek last time in bacarrat, and win a lot.

its just your lucky day.....I believe not every time follow others may win big

Is true, that gamble majority always lose. But i do believe some people are born to gamble. They do have the luck to win this kind of money. In chinese we call this "Wang Choi". This kind of people are born lucky in gambling.

No matter wat, always take gambling as entertainment...there is no such thing as sure win situation

Anyhow a bit about Genting...

To get silver card, you need to be a quite an outstanding player. U bet a lot and get notice...then the Assistant Manager will... Mr do you have a silver card. If you don't want to apply? He/She recommend u to go into the IR room (International Room). Inside u got free drinks. Food still have to pay.

Gold Card. Is something not everyone can get...u need to be have certain amount of turnover in a year. U go into the VIP room u eat free.

Platinum Card holder, u gamble damn keng...each round bring 200k and fight with genting. also got the same benefit as gold. U never run out of hotel room. Coz resort will allocated some room just for the gold and plat players. Like festival season. U call in and ask...got room?? they sure say fully book. If u are a plat holder...they sure have 4 u.

Another Room...which is call Maxin Room. No Card can enter this room. Is by invitation only. U need to bring million to play here. each bet min will be 20k to 300k for blackjack. Eat free...u want abalon also can makan. Most of the player are millionare all around malaysia...all races. The last time i heard from my brother in law is that...he seen a general from myanmar. Showing off...each bet 100k. End of the day lost 5 mil MYR. No feel...for them...money donno where it come from also.

Then the question is...why so many malaysian chinese business man go to genting? This is one way of getting away of income tax also. Imagine u put in 200k to gamble...u win o ready. u got around 600k. back home...genting won't ask u to bring cash of 600k. They give u cheque...this cheque u can photo copy...incase IRB know on your door...say...how come u got money to buy BMW. Show them Uncle Lim Check. I won money from genting cannot ah. Turn one round money clean liow...

Patiently wait for good table. Dragon table sure win

Dragon table sure win

Roulette chance is the best after all the observation. No double...if the dealer who throw the ball, "Chin Chai" wanted to help u out. Some dealer...they don't mind let u win. Just wanted to be nice that kind. Not all like that...but some in good mood they smile to you. See u lose so much they will try to help u out let u win...they will help to throw into the sector that you buying. Is very common in genting...if u notice.

After all they just makan gaji. U win or lose...they still get the basic pay.

I have a friend who just came back from Aust...he went to one casino in gold coast. Is around 1am...the dealer was going off soon. He ask my friend, sir...how much money do u need only will statisfy u for tonight. My friend say 2k Aust. He really help my friend to get 2k...then my friend leave...In aust, no problem. I guess if in malaysia u do that...the dealer...will sure transfer to other table like blackjack or other non rollette related job..



This post has been edited by yipwh: Dec 7 2007, 01:57 PM

I wonder how much the people (just in this thread) has lost to genting

Muahahahha a lot..majority. Will lose...very simple logic actually...if u bring 10k to win RM100 is easy. That is like 1 percent of your total investment. If u bring RM100 and want to win back RM50. That is 50% return.

Always calculate how much return u having not the amount u have.

Always have confident in what u gamble