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WalidAnakBulus
post May 29 2020, 04:18 PM

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Since we have a lot of different groups here, I figured we should make one for LGBT too. Contrary to what our tourism minister has claimed, we do exist.

Just a little introduction about myself: You guys can call me Giga. I'm a 28 years old malay gay guy currently living in KL. Nice to meet you guys!

Feel free to use this thread to discuss LGBT issues in the country and beyond. Anyone with any questions about the LGBT community feel free to drop your questions here too. We will try to answer as best as we can.
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Well, this is a serious question, do you (or any forumers that in a relationship) just stick to your partner or does hook around with someone other than your partner as well?

I am currently in a 6 years++ relationship, but my bf always secretly hooking around with others through Grindr account since year 1. Tired of fighting about it and now i just.. don't give a F about it anymore.

I've discussed this with my bf on the 5th year of our relationship,
1) Why weren't we just breakup so you can do it freely?
= Because i love you and i wanna live & share my life with you.
2) If you really can't change, why not we do an open-relationship?
= No, i don't like the idea of you being touch by someone else.
3) Do you think a 3s-relationship may solve this?
= No unless the third person only for me and he can't do anything with you.

I've come to think, Malaysian gay community is indeed very toxic, but i may be wrong, maybe this is normal and i just have to adapt?
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post May 29 2020, 06:36 PM

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WalidAnakBulus My bf and I still haven't reached our one-year anniversary yet, so I probably isn't qualified enough to comment about your relationship. But it sure sounds like your partner is the toxic one. sweat.gif

In the past year I've seen plenty of homosexual relationships who treat each other as equals, even the ones practicing open-relationships. I've even met someone who is in a loving "trouple" relationship. If you have the impression that the local gay community is toxic, maybe you need to switch your circle of friends because based on my experience that couldn't be further from the truth.
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post May 29 2020, 08:49 PM

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In this country, LGBT is still consider as a very taboo subject.

The acceptance of LGBT community is almost close to non-existence. With the current political/religion situation here its going stay the same for a long time.

Sadly migrating to other country would be the better choice if you want to be your true self. If migrating is not an option, then try to stay under the radar.

So basically if you gender yourself something other than normal straight Male/Female you will most likely encounter some form of discrimination.

That is why sometime it’s better to stay closet.

Try to join a support group if you need help, life is the most precious thing.

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-Just my personal opinion.

openuptheeconomy
post May 29 2020, 10:07 PM

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Are any of you consider migrating ?
What are your plans / strategies ?
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post May 29 2020, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(WalidAnakBulus @ May 29 2020, 04:18 PM)
Well, this is a serious question, do you (or any forumers that in a relationship) just stick to your partner or does hook around with someone other than your partner as well?

I am currently in a 6 years++ relationship, but my bf always secretly hooking around with others through Grindr account since year 1. Tired of fighting about it and now i just.. don't give a F about it anymore.

I've discussed this with my bf on the 5th year of our relationship,
1) Why weren't we just breakup so you can do it freely?
= Because i love you and i wanna live & share my life with you.
2) If you really can't change, why not we do an open-relationship?
= No, i don't like the idea of you being touch by someone else.
3) Do you think a 3s-relationship may solve this?
= No unless the third person only for me and he can't do anything with you.

I've come to think, Malaysian gay community is indeed very toxic, but i may be wrong, maybe this is normal and i just have to adapt?
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I believe you know the answer to your questions. It seems very double standard, if you ask me and not an equal partnership.

If you are comfortable with it, then is fine.

If it was me, I would not be able to accept it.


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post May 30 2020, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(openuptheeconomy @ May 29 2020, 10:07 PM)
Are any of you consider migrating ?
What are your plans / strategies ?
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There is a guy who is planning to migrate to Switzerland in previous pages if I'm not mistaken.

To be honest, this is the worst year to plan for migration with the coronavirus and all. sweat.gif

QUOTE(skyblue8 @ May 29 2020, 10:21 PM)
I believe you know the answer to your questions. It seems very double standard, if you ask me and not an equal partnership.

If you are comfortable with it, then is fine.

If it was me, I would not be able to accept it.
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Yeah, I would've packed my bags a long time ago. Maybe there is a reason why he can't leave his emotionally abusive bf.
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post May 30 2020, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ May 30 2020, 11:33 AM)
How come this thread is alive. Lgbt is simply mocking the god design. Gender should be define biological not on what u feel. The dna is the blueprit for  a design. If a male it will create a male. And man n woman all have different anatomical. Not only sex organ are differ....but the bone, claivicle bine, the pelvic bone, the muscle mass, all are differ based on gender. N u mocking these dna design n justfied merely based on "how i feel"
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Homosexuals are born in that way too, if they follow what you said, you're just doing what you just said, mocking the so-called 'god design'. What an ignorant and pathetic comment coming from you. You better make sure you don't choose your spouse based on how you feel, ignorant brat. Just think about it, if god forbids homosexuals, why do males have G-spot in their rectum when they're clearly doing the thrusts. Biological gender is called sex, period. Somehow, there are researches telling homosexuality and genes are correlated. But of course, people like you simply don't understand the Four Fs are simply uncontrollable.
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post May 30 2020, 12:10 PM

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Above is a prime example of years of religion indoctrination. Everything MUST follow by the book.

Well everyone is entitle to their own view and can comment whatever they want on an open social forum. So no right or wrong answer here.

I was truly surprise this topic can even survive 16 pages in /k .

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post May 30 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Yenactiet @ May 30 2020, 11:42 AM)
Homosexuals are born in that way too, if they follow what you said, you're just doing what you just said, mocking the so-called 'god design'. What an ignorant and pathetic comment coming from you. You better make sure you don't choose your spouse based on how you feel, ignorant brat. Just think about it, if god forbids homosexuals, why do males have G-spot in their rectum when they're clearly doing the thrusts. Biological gender is called sex, period. Somehow, there are researches telling homosexuality and genes are correlated. But of course, people like you simply don't understand the Four Fs are simply uncontrollable.
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So you need to insert something into your butt to cum? lmao
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post May 30 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(WalidAnakBulus @ May 29 2020, 04:18 PM)
Well, this is a serious question, do you (or any forumers that in a relationship) just stick to your partner or does hook around with someone other than your partner as well?

I am currently in a 6 years++ relationship, but my bf always secretly hooking around with others through Grindr account since year 1. Tired of fighting about it and now i just.. don't give a F about it anymore.

I've discussed this with my bf on the 5th year of our relationship,
1) Why weren't we just breakup so you can do it freely?
= Because i love you and i wanna live & share my life with you.
2) If you really can't change, why not we do an open-relationship?
= No, i don't like the idea of you being touch by someone else.
3) Do you think a 3s-relationship may solve this?
= No unless the third person only for me and he can't do anything with you.

I've come to think, Malaysian gay community is indeed very toxic, but i may be wrong, maybe this is normal and i just have to adapt?
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That sucks bro. But, even in hetero world, got toxic people all around la. It comes down to our upbringing and education as malaysians. We tend to focus more on academic, and religion. But very little on Human Values.

But I am sure there are loyal monogamous gay out there for u. Keep your head up.
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post May 30 2020, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ May 30 2020, 11:33 AM)
How come this thread is alive. Lgbt is simply mocking the god design. Gender should be define biological not on what u feel. The dna is the blueprit for  a design. If a male it will create a male. And man n woman all have different anatomical. Not only sex organ are differ....but the bone, claivicle bine, the pelvic bone, the muscle mass, all are differ based on gender. N u mocking these dna design n justfied merely based on "how i feel"
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empire23 please send this guy away for inciting
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post May 31 2020, 01:50 AM

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Got PM asking me about Sarah Benjamin celebrating her lesbian marriage with Marcia Ong. oh well it's kinda surprised yes since I didn't know she's part of LGBT but I'm always big fan of her since she won food Hero show.

Congrats to her to anyway really happy for her. smile.gif
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post May 31 2020, 10:27 AM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4970408&hl=

Most of the replies in this thread are really wholesome. wub.gif
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post May 31 2020, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ May 31 2020, 01:50 AM)
Got PM asking me about Sarah Benjamin celebrating her lesbian marriage with Marcia Ong. oh well it's kinda surprised yes since I didn't know she's part of LGBT but I'm always big fan of her since she won food Hero show.

Congrats to her to anyway really happy for her. smile.gif
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Congratulations to her! Love her wedding—it's very simple and elegant. biggrin.gif

In case you guys wanna check out the photos, go here: https://www.theknot.com/real-weddings/a-fre...s-angeles-album
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post May 31 2020, 01:18 PM

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Yeah, sure why not.
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post May 31 2020, 01:46 PM

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Congratulations to her! Love her wedding—it's very simple and elegant.  biggrin.gif

In case you guys wanna check out the photos, go here: https://www.theknot.com/real-weddings/a-fre...s-angeles-album
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Had to close my thread in Kopitiam. Yeah the bigots just won't leave queers alone. :/ Getting anal about dildo usage and comparing homo marriage with pedophilia are fucking stupid.
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post May 31 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ May 31 2020, 01:46 PM)
Had to close my thread in Kopitiam. Yeah the bigots just won't leave queers alone. :/ Getting anal about dildo usage and comparing homo marriage with pedophilia are fucking stupid.
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I expected nothing more from the average ktards. sweat.gif

Sorry to hear that. I read it yesterday and it was a great thread, though. Hope you won't feel detered to share more LGBT news/stories because of the few vocal homophobes.
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post Jun 1 2020, 03:13 PM

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Malaysian man wins right to challenge country’s Islamic anti-gay laws in court
Source: https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/community/136481...-laws-in-court/

The highest court in Malaysia has granted a 30-year-old Muslim man the right to challenge the country’s Islamic anti-gay laws which prohibit sex “against the order of nature.” The man’s identity has been withheld for his own protection.

In 2018, the man involved in the case was arrested for attempting to engage in gay sex, he has denied the charge. The country has a dual-track legal system for its 13 states, in which Islamic criminal and family laws applicable to Muslims run alongside civil laws.

The man is arguing that the Selangor state, in which he was arrested in, had no power to enforce the Islamic ban on “intercourse against the order of nature” as it was already a crime in the country’s civil law. Malaysia’s constitution says a state cannot exact a law when the same law already exists at a national level.

The case was granted the right to be heard on 14 May, but it was only on Wednesday (27 May) that the decision became public.

Speaking to Reuters, Surendra Ananth said: “This will be the first. (If we win), the state law will be struck down and the criminal charges in the (Islamic) shariah court should be dropped.” Surendra added that arguments should start being heard by the end of the year.

In a statement, LGBTIQ+ Network, a group of 12 Malaysian LGBTQ rights groups, praised the decision to go ahead with the case, saying in a statement: “It is clear this state law is being used by authorities to disproportionately criminalise marginalised and persecuted communities based on sexual orientation and gender identity.”

If the case is successful, it would stop all current cases in sharia courts, and would allow legal challenges to be made in other states.

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LGBTQ people are heavily persecuted in Malaysia, including from homophobic politicians. Last year, the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia, known by the acronym SUHAKAM, gave their annual report, but a politician refused to debate parts of the report around LGBTQ rights.

“Since when did Malaysia start recognising LGBT as part of its cultural values? Which religion accepted LGBT as part of their teachings? Have Malaysia [even] built special toilets for the LGBT group?”

And in 2018, in a speech to university students, the Malaysian PM, Dr Mahathir Mohamad decried LGBTQ rights as just “Western values” explaining: “Sometimes Asians accept Western values without questioning. We should be free not to change our values according to their wishes.”

He added: “At this moment, we do not accept LGBT, but if they [the West] want to accept, that is their business. Don’t force it on us.

“The institution of marriage, the institution of the family has now been disregarded in the West. Why should we follow that? Our value system is as good.If [the West] one day decided to walk around naked, do we have to follow?”

His comments got even worse, implying that LGBTQ families weren’t real. “For example in the west now, men marry men, women marry women, and then the family is not made up of father, mother and the child, but is two men adopting one child from somebody,” Mohamad said.

He added: “They call themselves a family.”
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Iraqi state television channel censors prominent LGBTQ+ activist
Source: https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/community/136384...lgbtq-activist/

Al Sharqiya TV, a national television channel in Iraq, have removed an interview highlighting the disproportionate amount of violence against LGBTQ+ people in the country. It was broadcast live on Friday (22 May) but was deleted from the channel’s online platforms shortly after.

In the interview, activist Amir Ashour demands justice for the deaths of LGBTQ+ Iraqis, only to be told by the host that queer people are “rejected by society” and are therefore “the ones who need to be punished and held accountable.”

After reminding him that religion states that “all human life is sacred and that it needs to be preserved and protected” and that Iraq are obliged to protect its LGBTQ+ citizens, the interview came to an abrupt finish.

Amir, who is the founder and executive director of Iraq’s first LGBTQ+ charity IraQueer, said its disappearance from online platforms is evidence of Iraqi politicians “violating” and overlooking crimes committed against the community.

“They are also actively trying to silence us and stop the public from hearing our side of the story,” he said.

“This fight is far from over. LGBTQ+ Iraqis have been receiving an increased amount of threats since 17 May. We have even documented six killings of people who are or perceived to be LGBTQ+.”

Amir says government representatives and those with political connections need to “pressure” Iraq into publicly supporting and acknowledging the “importance of the right to life for all citizens including LGBTQ+ people.”

He also says funders need to “keep in mind that while combating COVID19 is an immediate threat facing the world including LGBTQ+ people, the threat against LGBTQ+ Iraqis did not start with COVID19, and will not end when we have a vaccine.”

He continued: “If you work at a media organization, please reach out. We want to make as much noise as possible about Iraqi media’s attacks on LGBT+ citizens, and oppression of LGBT+ voices in the rare occasions they host us.

“Iraqi media must be held accountable for their role in promoting anti-LGBT+ discrimination.”

Amir has since uploaded the entire interview in full on IraQueer’s YouTube page, which you can view below.



IraQueer celebrated its fifth anniversary earlier this year. The charity has transformed from an online platform to a registered human rights organisation that’s recognised internationally and relied upon by thousands of LGBTQ+ people in Iraq.

Over the last five years, they’ve trained more than 100 activists, social workers and journalists to help the cause, and spoke on some of the biggest world stages including the UN’s Human Rights Council, the General Assembly and One Young World.

The work of IraQueer has reached one million people online and offline, and the organisation has met with world leaders, raised awareness about LGBTQ identities in Iraq, campaigned on the streets of Bagdad, and lobbied decision makers.
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Happy Pride! How to celebrate Pride month 2020
Source: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1289965/H...020-lockdown-UK

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HAPPY PRIDE! Pride will be celebrated across the world throughout the month of June, so here are some of the ways you can celebrate Pride 2020 this year.

Every year June is marked as Pride month across the world. Millions take part in the celebrations, which usually involves musical performances and special events, along with marches in cities such as Manchester and London. Here's what's planned for the Pride 2020 celebrations.

What is Pride?

Pride is a global celebration of LGBT communitiesand the right to celebrate the freedom to be yourself.

Pride takes place in June because it is the month the Stonewall riots took place in New York City back in 1969.

At this point LGBT rights were not tolerated across much of the world.

However the Stonewall riots, also known as the Stonewall uprising, marked an important milestone in the fight for LGBT rights.

Every year in June millions of people across the world take part in demonstrations for Pride.

Pride marches are held across cities in the UK like London and Manchester, with people wearing the colours of the rainbow associated with Pride.

However public gatherings are currently banned due to the coronavirus pandemic, so many of this year’s celebrations will be taking place virtually.

How can you celebrate Pride at home?

Pride will be a bit different this year due to the coronavirus crisis.

This year Amnesty International announced its collaboration with UK Black Pride, Stonewall and ParaPride to bring Pride celebrations online for 2020.

Sen Raj, Amnesty International’s Rainbow Network committee member said: “COVID-19 won’t stop us celebrating LGBT+ rights.

“This year, Pride will be inside – in our homes and in our hearts.

“Around the world, the pandemic is having a disproportionate effect on LGBTI+ people who have been historically discriminated against in their access to healthcare, housing and employment."

The event will include performances and talks from a range of musicians, artists and activists.

A full itinerary and line-up is expected to be announced in due course.

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Sarah Hagger-Holt, from Stonewall UK, said: “Pride season is the highlight of the year for many LGBT people, so it’s been hard to hear that most Prides have had to cancel this year.

“But this has opened up new ways to bring us together to celebrate and show that defiant spirit our community is known for.

“Pride Inside promises to be a powerful platform that helps bring in and centre marginalised voices in the LGBT community.

“As the coronavirus pandemic risks increasing existing inequalities, it’s never been more important that we all show up for each other and stand together in the name of equality.”

The event has been dubbed Pride Inside and will kick off June 28 running until July 5.

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