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post Jun 3 2020, 01:36 PM

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Hi. Just chipping in. As a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic, where more than 90% of the patient with HIV are homosexuals who contracted HIV from anal sex, compared to previous source of IV drug user, i truly wish your community shouldn’t encourage your lifestyle further. Not only lives are lost, preventable disease are spreading by abhorrent lust. I even lost a good friend to HIV he got from gay sex. By principle, I’m against the unnatural lifestyle but it’s your right at individual level, not as a recognized community. As a muslim majority country, we will fight tooth and nail against recognizing your community as much as we can. Whichever government comes into power, the voice of the majority and natural sense will prevail against this nonsense.
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post Jun 3 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(doczane @ Jun 3 2020, 01:36 PM)
Hi. Just chipping in. As a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic, where more than 90% of the patient with HIV are homosexuals who contracted HIV from anal sex, compared to previous source of IV drug user, i truly wish your community shouldn’t encourage your lifestyle further. Not only lives are lost, preventable disease are spreading by abhorrent lust. I even lost a good friend to HIV he got from gay sex. By principle, I’m against the unnatural lifestyle but it’s your right at individual level, not as a recognized community.  As a muslim majority country, we will fight tooth and nail against recognizing your community as much as we can. Whichever government comes into power, the voice of the majority and natural sense will prevail against this nonsense.
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The fact that you are the spouse of a specialist saying these words is appalling. While I criticise unprotected sex and the 'complicated' sexual behaviour among LGB, especially gays, I strictly disagree with almost all of what you said. And, this has been repeated many times, homosexualism is sexuality, not a lifestyle. If you thought you are a straight person, but you're sexually attracted to males after certain trauma or whatsoever, this means you're a bisexual in the first place. It simply is not a choice to be made. I like how the majority of people that are 'against' it tend to link homosexuals with AIDS, just imagine a gay couple having anal sex, but none of them contracted HIV, where comes the HIV to infect them? Just because there are LGB that don't practise safe sex, you use it as a reason to go against the whole LGB community? It's bold of you to assume everyone has the same stand as you in this country, but that clearly shows how ignorant you are. I don't deny there are people demanding for recognition, but there are people that simply just wanna live like how the 'normal' people live without people criticising with false statements, not everyone wants recognition. I don't know why I type so many things just to attempt to clarify something that some people clearly won't even care about since they like to generalise shits. Stop calling this unnatural lifestyle when you can't justify it, thanks.
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post Jun 3 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(doczane @ Jun 3 2020, 01:36 PM)
Hi. Just chipping in. As a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic, where more than 90% of the patient with HIV are homosexuals who contracted HIV from anal sex, compared to previous source of IV drug user, i truly wish your community shouldn’t encourage your lifestyle further. Not only lives are lost, preventable disease are spreading by abhorrent lust. I even lost a good friend to HIV he got from gay sex. By principle, I’m against the unnatural lifestyle but it’s your right at individual level, not as a recognized community.Ā  As a muslim majority country, we will fight tooth and nail against recognizing your community as much as we can. Whichever government comes into power, the voice of the majority and natural sense will prevail against this nonsense.
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Most of the infections stem from lack of education on safe sex practices and those who were infected are afraid to go for tests/receive treatments due to social stigma and discrimination. Instead of driving homosexuals into hiding even further, you should help your spouse (and even your late gay friend) by spreading awareness and dispelling misconceptions of the LGBT lifestyle. That's what several NGOs are doing currently and based on recent statistics, HIV infections in the country are on a downward trend ("Epidemic Snapshot", page 9). I personally know a lot of people living with HIV in my life and all of them are living happy, productive lives.

Regarding Malaysia being a muslim-majority country, I'm muslim too and the Islam that I believe in accepts everyone regardless of who they are.

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post Jun 3 2020, 04:19 PM

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This gay politician wants you to remember ā€˜the first Pride was a riot’ against police brutality
Source: https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/02/brad-...ew-york-racism/

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Gay New York state senator Brad Hoylman is calling for Pride events to return to their ā€œradical rootsā€ and refocus their efforts to support Black people protesting against racism and police brutality in the US.

Protests against racism and police brutality continue in the US, following the deaths of George Floyd and Black trans man Tony McDade.

Democrat Hoylman, 54, made the comments in an open letter to the organisers of New York City Pride.

ā€œThe first Pride was a riot and an outpouring of anger and frustration, led by transgender women of colour who threw bricks at police and sparked the beginning of the queer liberation movement,ā€ he said.

ā€œAs protests against police brutality continue in New York City and nationwide, we are reminded that millions of our Black and brown siblings… are still denied justice,ā€ Brad Hoylman added.

His comments came at the start of Pride month, which commemorate the 1969 Stonewall uprising and kicks off Pride season..

The Stonewall Inn was the site of protests against police violence in 1969, when a police raid on the bar turned sour after officers accosted bar-goers.

Although accounts of events that night differ, many agree that it was when the police tried to shove butch Black lesbian StormƩ Delarverie into a police car that the uprising was triggered.

The ensuing protests are commonly credited as the birth of the modern-day gay-rights movement.

His remarks are the latest LGBT+ voice standing in solidarity with the Black community.

More than 100 leaders of LGBT+ organisations in the US have united in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, noting their shared experiences of harassment and police brutality.

They represent over 75 groups, including GLAAD, The Trevor Project and Human Rights Watch, which have signed a joint statement denouncing racial violence in America.

In an open letter calling for intersectional support, they name George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery and Christian Cooper alongside the many members of the Black transgender community who have been lost to the shocking ā€œepidemic of violenceā€.

ā€œThis police violence movement, this anti-racism movement, is our movement,ā€ said Mara Keisling, founder and executive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality.

ā€œWe can’t have a moral or effective trans or LGBT+ movement if it’s not an anti-racist movement,ā€ she said.
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post Jun 3 2020, 08:03 PM

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Facts and figure. Page 4

https://www.moh.gov.my/index.php/dl/5547567...b5335775a47593d

Will not sugar coat it. We all need to know the risk that comes to our territory.

But generalising all LGBT are bad is just wrong.

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post Jun 3 2020, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(mohdnaseem @ Jun 3 2020, 08:50 PM)
ish ish ish...kembalilah ke pangkaln jalan, bro. jgn macam ini
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Pangkalan jalan mana? There's nothing wrong with being an LGBT member.

Terima kasih je lah atas nasihat tu bro. sweat.gif
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post Jun 4 2020, 09:08 AM

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Siasat segera pelaku provokasi perlembagaan negara
Source: https://harakahdaily.net/index.php/2020/05/...mbagaan-negara/

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ALHAMDULILLAH pada hari ini, saya telah mewakili Dewan Pemuda PAS Negeri Pahang telah membuat satu laporan polis khusus ke atas 2 isu utama untuk siasat lanjut pihak Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) iaitu:

1. YB Xavier Jayekumar (MP Kuala Langat) yang menghina Parlimen dan YDPA.

2. Artikel mempromosi LGBT di akhbar Malay Mail.

Dewan Pemuda PAS Negeri Pahang (DPPNP) berpandangan kedua-dua isu ini adalah isu yang menyentuh sensitiviti masyarakat Malaysia terutamanya orang Melayu dan Islam.

Kami berpandangan memperlekehkan institusi Parlimen adalah sama seperti menghina YDPA memandangkan YDPA merupakan salah satu tonggak penting dan utama dalam berdirinya sebuah institusi parlimen di negara ini.

Kami juga berpandangan mempromosi budaya songsang LGBT secara terbuka di akhbar arus perdana seolah-olah mencabar kedaulatan undang-undang dan institusi fatwa negara ini yang secara jelas menolak amalan songsang ini.

Maka kerana itu, kami menggesa satu siasatan menyeluruh dijalankan secara adil dan telus ke atas individu-individu yang terlibat di dalam kedua-dua kes ini bagi terus menjamin kestabilan, keharmonian dan ketenteraman masyarakat di dalam negara ini.

Demi Islam – Islam Memimpin Perpaduan
USTAZ AIRIEROSHAIRI ROSLAN

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Signed off with "For Islam - Islam Leading Unity" but the content is promoting disunity. sweat.gif

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ashangel39
post Jun 4 2020, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(doczane @ Jun 3 2020, 01:36 PM)
Hi. Just chipping in. As a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic, where more than 90% of the patient with HIV are homosexuals who contracted HIV from anal sex, compared to previous source of IV drug user, i truly wish your community shouldn’t encourage your lifestyle further. Not only lives are lost, preventable disease are spreading by abhorrent lust. I even lost a good friend to HIV he got from gay sex. By principle, I’m against the unnatural lifestyle but it’s your right at individual level, not as a recognized community.  As a muslim majority country, we will fight tooth and nail against recognizing your community as much as we can. Whichever government comes into power, the voice of the majority and natural sense will prevail against this nonsense.
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Just because you're a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic means nothing if you don't educate yourself. Why put the blame solely on the LGBTQ for people who contracted HIV from anal sex? As far as I know, straight people enjoy anal sex as much as other people. So please don't blame it on the LGBTQ. Most people practise safe sex but unfortunately there are many that doesn't because we were never taught until much later in life and that's the cause of all roots of things like HIV, unwanted pregnancy, newborn baby dumping and what not.

Instead of fighting against recognising us a community, why don't you fight to educate the people so that less lives are lost? Nobody's dying for us being us. They are dying because they aren't educated enough so save their own lives.

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post Jun 4 2020, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jun 4 2020, 09:08 AM)
Siasat segera pelaku provokasi perlembagaan negara
Source: https://harakahdaily.net/index.php/2020/05/...mbagaan-negara/

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ALHAMDULILLAH pada hari ini, saya telah mewakili Dewan Pemuda PAS Negeri Pahang telah membuat satu laporan polis khusus ke atas 2 isu utama untuk siasat lanjut pihak Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) iaitu:

1. YB Xavier Jayekumar (MP Kuala Langat) yang menghina Parlimen dan YDPA.

2. Artikel mempromosi LGBT di akhbar Malay Mail.

Dewan Pemuda PAS Negeri Pahang (DPPNP) berpandangan kedua-dua isu ini adalah isu yang menyentuh sensitiviti masyarakat Malaysia terutamanya orang Melayu dan Islam.

Kami berpandangan memperlekehkan institusi Parlimen adalah sama seperti menghina YDPA memandangkan YDPA merupakan salah satu tonggak penting dan utama dalam berdirinya sebuah institusi parlimen di negara ini.

Kami juga berpandangan mempromosi budaya songsang LGBT secara terbuka di akhbar arus perdana seolah-olah mencabar kedaulatan undang-undang dan institusi fatwa negara ini yang secara jelas menolak amalan songsang ini.

Maka kerana itu, kami menggesa satu siasatan menyeluruh dijalankan secara adil dan telus ke atas individu-individu yang terlibat di dalam kedua-dua kes ini bagi terus menjamin kestabilan, keharmonian dan ketenteraman masyarakat di dalam negara ini.

Demi Islam – Islam Memimpin Perpaduan
USTAZ AIRIEROSHAIRI ROSLAN

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Signed off with "For Islam - Islam Leading Unity" but the content is promoting disunity.  sweat.gif
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Haih...biasalah. Because it doesn't 'align' with their beliefs/teaching ma. So tired of everybody trying to be holier than thou people. mega_shok.gif
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post Jun 4 2020, 05:47 PM

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Hi there guys! I have a friend that I think might be gay. I notice he followed some hot male model accounts on instagram and post some instastories about how the world is judging for who he likes sexually..

My question is, how do I tell my friend that I support him and always be there for him? He is currently ostracized from his extended family.
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QUOTE(69420666 @ Jun 4 2020, 05:47 PM)
Hi there guys! I have a friend that I think might be gay. I notice he followed some hot male model accounts on instagram and post some instastories about how the world is judging for who he likes sexually..

My question is, how do I tell my friend that I support him and always be there for him? He is currently ostracized from his extended family.
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Maybe try to say something like, 'no matter what you are or what you do, I will always support you, except when you do bad things, haha', I'm not sure, but anyhow try to make jokes after you telling that, otherwise it'd turn very awkward. Not gonna lie, that sounds cringe to me whichever way it's put. Just my 2 cents.

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Hi question, is it normal for gay guy to hit on every guy?

I got hit on by a gay guy one night. He came close and touched my face and invited me for sleepover.

Im certain he's gay.

Does that mean im hot? Im straight as far as im concerned, although I admire looking at hot men like George Clooney, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans

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post Jun 4 2020, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(69420666 @ Jun 4 2020, 05:47 PM)
Hi there guys! I have a friend that I think might be gay. I notice he followed some hot male model accounts on instagram and post some instastories about how the world is judging for who he likes sexually..

My question is, how do I tell my friend that I support him and always be there for him? He is currently ostracized from his extended family.
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Wow you are a good friend. He's lucky to know you!

You can say that I'm your friend no matter what and will always be by his side. Or maybe you can share with him something that he doesn't know about you.. Like some big or funny mistake you did then he is more open to share about his sexuality
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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Jun 4 2020, 07:40 PM)
Hi question, is it normal for gay guy to hit on every guy?

I got hit on by a gay guy one night. He came close and touched my face and invited me for sleepover.

Im certain he's gay.

Does that mean im hot? Im straight as far as im concerned, although I admire looking at hot men like George Clooney, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans
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Yes you should be flattered 😁

Is the a friend or stranger? Have you spoken to him before? How do you know he's gay?

Just do what you are comfortable with. You can accept or reject his invitation nicely šŸ™‚



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QUOTE(skyblue8 @ Jun 4 2020, 08:01 PM)
Yes you should be flattered 😁

Is the a friend or stranger? Have you spoken to him before? How do you know he's gay?

Just do what you are comfortable with. You can accept or reject his invitation nicely šŸ™‚
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Colleague at work. Barely knew him.

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post Jun 4 2020, 08:11 PM

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What do the tale of Sodome & Gamorrah and also the punishment of Prophet Loth's people have on you? I know when people commit to any sin, they feel no guilty and even proud of it...But the tale and the punishment are repeated in 2 holy books. That means it is the reminder for not to do it.
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QUOTE(doczane @ Jun 3 2020, 01:36 PM)
Hi. Just chipping in. As a spouse to a specialist handling infectious disease clinic, where more than 90% of the patient with HIV are homosexuals who contracted HIV from anal sex, compared to previous source of IV drug user, i truly wish your community shouldn’t encourage your lifestyle further. Not only lives are lost, preventable disease are spreading by abhorrent lust. I even lost a good friend to HIV he got from gay sex. By principle, I’m against the unnatural lifestyle but it’s your right at individual level, not as a recognized community.  As a muslim majority country, we will fight tooth and nail against recognizing your community as much as we can. Whichever government comes into power, the voice of the majority and natural sense will prevail against this nonsense.
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lol wtf no. get out.
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post Jun 4 2020, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(69420666 @ Jun 4 2020, 05:47 PM)
Hi there guys! I have a friend that I think might be gay. I notice he followed some hot male model accounts on instagram and post some instastories about how the world is judging for who he likes sexually..

My question is, how do I tell my friend that I support him and always be there for him? He is currently ostracized from his extended family.
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you can by just sharing handsome men pic to him and funnily say thought u might like this, just treat him like how you treat him everyday. or like when he post stuffs saying the world is judging, u reply back say ''hey, im not judging you.''
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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Jun 4 2020, 07:40 PM)
Hi question, is it normal for gay guy to hit on every guy?

I got hit on by a gay guy one night. He came close and touched my face and invited me for sleepover.

Im certain he's gay.

Does that mean im hot? Im straight as far as im concerned, although I admire looking at hot men like George Clooney, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans
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no.

maybe that guy just think you're hot. just politely decline and take the confidence boost.
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post Jun 4 2020, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(bunyip @ Jun 4 2020, 08:11 PM)
What do the tale of Sodome & Gamorrah and also the punishment of Prophet Loth's people have on you? I know when people commit to any sin, they feel no guilty and even proud of it...But the tale and the punishment are repeated in 2 holy books. That means it is the reminder for not to do it.
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Stop using your own religion to justify a community that's not solely formed by the people that have the same religion as yours. In my religion, there's no restriction for sex, though there're restrictions for unhealthy sexual behaviours(not anal sex/oral sex, sorry to burst your bubble). Heck, my religion doesn't even talk about sexuality at all. If you're wondering, it's Buddhism and I attempt to practise the Five Percepts as much as I could.

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