Even if never sold out, one of these days they will close the preorder and claim sols out anyways. The extra stock send to roadshow. Lose face if preorder not sold out
Haha....your statement my friend is absolutely spot on
QUOTE(attw @ Feb 18 2020, 09:12 PM)
No la, like we established a long time ago bro, this thread is only a very, very small sample of the general population of gadget fanatics out there. I’m sure there’ll be long queues at the roadshow - if the offer is right
Ok...you want cheap then go queue 12 hours before launch. On?
I think SME will throw in better deals during the road show should preorder booking volumes dont reach their targets.
I think this whole Snapdragon, Exynos chip superiority complex is blown out of proportion. I was like most users here. I bought the S10+. Battery wasn't great so I started scouring on forums to try to get it better. Found out I had an inferior chip, the infamous Exynos. Fast forward a few months later found a buyer, sold it and got the Note 10+. This time surprise surprise battery life was great. Great would be over exaggerating but it was way better than my S10+. I could easily get through a day of medium to high usage with about 20-30% left when i get home, where as my S10+ would've been dead few hours before I got home.
Fast forward a couple of months again (a few weeks ago) I got bored of the Note 10+ and put it up for sale. A guy with the Asus ROG Phone 2 texted me wanting to swap. I thought why not, considering all the good things I've heard about the Snapdragon and knowing it has 6000 mAh battery it must be a powerhouse. I decided to give it a go.
F*#$ me did I regret it.
It's not that the phone wasnt a powerhouse, it was. I heard so many good things about the SD processor that I imagined that I would see a night and day difference between those 2 when in fact, I couldn't. Sure the high refresh screen made everything smoother but that's about it. People boasted about getting amazing battery life. For me, I got equally great battery life from the Exynos Note 10+. To me there were no significant difference in terms of performance for MY day to day use. Im sure for the diehards out there who look at benchmarks and test scores there is a difference. But for the average consumer like me, you won't see any difference. I miss my note 10+. It was an amazing phone that I gave up cause I was swayed by the hype of Snapdragon. Don't be me. Don't be stupid.
This post has been edited by koji188: Feb 19 2020, 12:38 AM
I think this whole Snapdragon, Exynos chip superiority complex is blown out of proportion. I was like most users here. I bought the S10+. Battery wasn't great so I started scouring on forums to try to get it better. Found out I had an inferior chip, the infamous Exynos. Fast forward a few months later found a buyer, sold it and got the Note 10+. This time surprise surprise battery life was great. Great would be over exaggerating but it was way better than my S10+. I could easily get through a day of medium to high usage with about 20-30% left when i get home, where as my S10+ would've been dead few hours before I got home.
Fast forward a couple of months again (a few weeks ago) I got bored of the Note 10+ and put it up for sale. A guy with the Asus ROG Phone 2 texted me wanting to swap. I thought why not, considering all the good things I've heard about the Snapdragon and knowing it has 6000 mAh battery it must be a powerhouse. I decided to give it a go.
F*#$ me did I regret it.
It's not that the phone wasnt a powerhouse, it was. I heard so many good things about the SD processor that I imagined that I would see a night and day difference between those 2 when in fact, I couldn't. Sure the high refresh screen made everything smoother but that's about it. People boasted about getting amazing battery life. For me, I got equally great battery life from the Exynos Note 10+. To me there were no significant difference in terms of performance for MY day to day use. Im sure for the diehards out there who look at benchmarks and test scores there is a difference. But for the average consumer like me, you won't see any difference. I miss my note 10+. It was an amazing phone that I gave up cause I was swayed by the hype of Snapdragon. Don't be me. Don't be stupid.
No comments on the performance differences since both phone are using different Ui & system.
But for the battery part, no way the ROG 2 has the same battery life as the Note 10+. We are talking about 6000mAh vs 4300mAh here. Impossible. Most likely, it's because of the 120hz refresh rate on the ROG2. It's a big hit to battery life. Try to set it to 60hz refresh rate, which is the same as Note 10+. I am sure your ROG2 battery life will improve a lot.
Also, it's possible that your ROG2 battery capacity is deteriorated to certain level. You would never know what the previous owner has done to the phone. May be a hardcore gamer who play mobile games all the time, or charging battery habit incorrect, etc. That's the common risk you take when you buy second hand phone.
I think this whole Snapdragon, Exynos chip superiority complex is blown out of proportion. I was like most users here. I bought the S10+. Battery wasn't great so I started scouring on forums to try to get it better. Found out I had an inferior chip, the infamous Exynos. Fast forward a few months later found a buyer, sold it and got the Note 10+. This time surprise surprise battery life was great. Great would be over exaggerating but it was way better than my S10+. I could easily get through a day of medium to high usage with about 20-30% left when i get home, where as my S10+ would've been dead few hours before I got home.
Fast forward a couple of months again (a few weeks ago) I got bored of the Note 10+ and put it up for sale. A guy with the Asus ROG Phone 2 texted me wanting to swap. I thought why not, considering all the good things I've heard about the Snapdragon and knowing it has 6000 mAh battery it must be a powerhouse. I decided to give it a go.
F*#$ me did I regret it.
It's not that the phone wasnt a powerhouse, it was. I heard so many good things about the SD processor that I imagined that I would see a night and day difference between those 2 when in fact, I couldn't. Sure the high refresh screen made everything smoother but that's about it. People boasted about getting amazing battery life. For me, I got equally great battery life from the Exynos Note 10+. To me there were no significant difference in terms of performance for MY day to day use. Im sure for the diehards out there who look at benchmarks and test scores there is a difference. But for the average consumer like me, you won't see any difference. I miss my note 10+. It was an amazing phone that I gave up cause I was swayed by the hype of Snapdragon. Don't be me. Don't be stupid.
As long as you are not a ASUS fan, don't go to buy a ASUS smartphone.
I also have tried to use a ASUS smartphone before. The first time when I swipe down the notification bar, I feel regret. It was just a minute after I switched on the new phone.
Mainly because they are LAZY. Most people tend to not to manage and sort out their storage from time to time. Computer/laptop HDD, phone, digital camera, all the same. Until the warning message not enough space comes out, they only start to panic and ask for help.
and, when accidentally phone got reset or kaput, all valuable photos and data gone..then start to panic and ask for help
I don't like hoarding stuff too, especially in my phone. But nowadays, we tend to view more of the pictures on our phones rather than on the pc or laptop. If you need to view the pictures on a larger screen, we just mirror link our phone to our LED TV and we can view it on large screens. So if you were to store it on your pc, it wont be so convenient in viewing the pictures when you want. For whatsapp and other social media platforms, many of us use it for business or work related purpose, we cant really afford to delete the messages, pictures and videos because we need to refer back to it later on. Apps are taking more and more space on our phones, pictures and videos are going higher and higher in definition and all these requires more space.
All these 'junk' on our phones will just keep getting more and more each year. So a larger capacity storage is not only a requirement, it is almost a must have.
That's because ppl are getting lazy to manage them. That has been the whole point from the beginning. One can argue how this n that is important but how often do you used those junk? Once or twice a year? If you're using them often, I think you can already memorize them.
A phone should be a temporary intermediate storage holder that last for as long as you kept the phone. When you change phone, you should only copies over the most important ones and get rid of the junks. This is why they introduced cloud storage because they knew it's a big business due to people's laziness to manage their junks.
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I think this whole Snapdragon, Exynos chip superiority complex is blown out of proportion. I was like most users here. I bought the S10+. Battery wasn't great so I started scouring on forums to try to get it better. Found out I had an inferior chip, the infamous Exynos. Fast forward a few months later found a buyer, sold it and got the Note 10+. This time surprise surprise battery life was great. Great would be over exaggerating but it was way better than my S10+. I could easily get through a day of medium to high usage with about 20-30% left when i get home, where as my S10+ would've been dead few hours before I got home.
Fast forward a couple of months again (a few weeks ago) I got bored of the Note 10+ and put it up for sale. A guy with the Asus ROG Phone 2 texted me wanting to swap. I thought why not, considering all the good things I've heard about the Snapdragon and knowing it has 6000 mAh battery it must be a powerhouse. I decided to give it a go.
F*#$ me did I regret it.
It's not that the phone wasnt a powerhouse, it was. I heard so many good things about the SD processor that I imagined that I would see a night and day difference between those 2 when in fact, I couldn't. Sure the high refresh screen made everything smoother but that's about it. People boasted about getting amazing battery life. For me, I got equally great battery life from the Exynos Note 10+. To me there were no significant difference in terms of performance for MY day to day use. Im sure for the diehards out there who look at benchmarks and test scores there is a difference. But for the average consumer like me, you won't see any difference. I miss my note 10+. It was an amazing phone that I gave up cause I was swayed by the hype of Snapdragon. Don't be me. Don't be stupid.
I also used to think the whole Exynos vs Snapdragon argument was blown out of proportion. I've owned every Samsung flagship since the S6 (with the exception of the S7 Edge and Note 7) and all of them performed adequately. I'm not a gamer as well so I probably wouldn't know about the superiority of the SD's GPU compared to the Exynos, so it's all good. But all of them had unusual battery drain especially overnight and when on idle. I initially thought it was an Android issue, but having tried other phones then I thought it was a Samsung issue. Samsung would not release a SD powered phone here officially and I would never buy one without official warranty so no harm, no foul. Ignorance is bliss! Then the S10 Lite was launched and out of curiosity I bought it to try, half expecting it to be not so different. I could not be more wrong. I went from 7-8% overnight battery drain to just 2% with all settings left on. Granted, the S10 Lite has a slightly bigger battery than the Note 10+ (4500mAh vs 4300mAh), but I'm getting some serious mileage from the S10 Lite which I can never achieve on any of my previous Samsung phones.
Also, my brief experience with the Note 10+ was even more frustrating as it had poor signal reception - worse than most midrange phones. Now on the same network and at the same locations, the reception on my S10 Lite is far better. So now that I've had the first hand experience for myself, I can see why most here would pick the SD over the Exynos if given a choice. I'd do the same.
QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Feb 19 2020, 03:20 AM)
As long as you are not a ASUS fan, don't go to buy a ASUS smartphone.
I also have tried to use a ASUS smartphone before. The first time when I swipe down the notification bar, I feel regret. It was just a minute after I switched on the new phone.
I had the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 running on pure Android and it was alright. But yeah, the Asus ownership experience is not for everyone
QUOTE(milfap @ Feb 19 2020, 06:41 AM)
Anyone have insider info about Z Flip pricing , availability ?
Would you still buy after watching this?
I get that no one would intentionally damage the screen like that but to boast about having Ultra Thin Glass when it's clearly not glass....
This post has been edited by attw: Feb 19 2020, 08:25 AM
I also used to think the whole Exynos vs Snapdragon argument was blown out of proportion. I've owned every Samsung flagship since the S6 (with the exception of the S7 Edge and Note 7) and all of them performed adequately. I'm not a gamer as well so I probably wouldn't know about the superiority of the SD's GPU compared to the Exynos, so it's all good. But all of them had unusual battery drain especially overnight and when on idle. I initially thought it was an Android issue, but having tried other phones then I thought it was a Samsung issue. Samsung would not release a SD powered phone here officially and I would never buy one without official warranty so no harm, no foul. Ignorance is bliss! Then the S10 Lite was launched and out of curiosity I bought it to try, half expecting it to be not so different. I could not be more wrong. I went from 7-8% overnight battery drain to just 2% with all settings left on. Granted, the S10 Lite has a slightly bigger battery than the Note 10+ (4500mAh vs 4300mAh), but I'm getting some serious mileage from the S10 Lite which I can never achieve on any of my previous Samsung phones.
Also, my brief experience with the Note 10+ was even more frustrating as it had poor signal reception - worse than most midrange phones. Now on the same network and at the same locations, the reception on my S10 Lite is far better. So now that I've had the first hand experience for myself, I can see why most here would pick the SD over the Exynos if given a choice. I'd do the same. I had the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 running on pure Android and it was alright. But yeah, the Asus ownership experience is not for everyone Would you still buy after watching this?
I get that no one would intentionally damage the screen like that but to boast about having Ultra Thin Glass when it's clearly not glass....
I think here they already explain it about the z flip, its really have a thin glass underneath of the film on top.
I think this whole Snapdragon, Exynos chip superiority complex is blown out of proportion. I was like most users here. I bought the S10+. Battery wasn't great so I started scouring on forums to try to get it better. Found out I had an inferior chip, the infamous Exynos. Fast forward a few months later found a buyer, sold it and got the Note 10+. This time surprise surprise battery life was great. Great would be over exaggerating but it was way better than my S10+. I could easily get through a day of medium to high usage with about 20-30% left when i get home, where as my S10+ would've been dead few hours before I got home.
Fast forward a couple of months again (a few weeks ago) I got bored of the Note 10+ and put it up for sale. A guy with the Asus ROG Phone 2 texted me wanting to swap. I thought why not, considering all the good things I've heard about the Snapdragon and knowing it has 6000 mAh battery it must be a powerhouse. I decided to give it a go.
F*#$ me did I regret it.
It's not that the phone wasnt a powerhouse, it was. I heard so many good things about the SD processor that I imagined that I would see a night and day difference between those 2 when in fact, I couldn't. Sure the high refresh screen made everything smoother but that's about it. People boasted about getting amazing battery life. For me, I got equally great battery life from the Exynos Note 10+. To me there were no significant difference in terms of performance for MY day to day use. Im sure for the diehards out there who look at benchmarks and test scores there is a difference. But for the average consumer like me, you won't see any difference. I miss my note 10+. It was an amazing phone that I gave up cause I was swayed by the hype of Snapdragon. Don't be me. Don't be stupid.
Did use both Snapdragon, Exynos (S7E, Note 8, A9 Pro, Lenovo P2 and etc..), and currently use Mate 20 (Kirin) and A70 (Snapdragon), compare side to side real life usage , Mate 20 battery last longer then A70 although A70 have bigger battery.
Yeah....i also think the Snapdragon vs Exynos issue has been blown out of proportion by certain quarters. I mean why would Samsung use SD chipsets for the S20 range for their homeground Korean market. Koreans must be sheeps.
Even Samsung would be using the Snapdragon 865 on their S20 on homeground Korean market.
Wccftech LEAK ⋮ MOBILE Samsung Won’t Be Using Its Custom Exynos 990 for the Galaxy S20 Series in Its Home Market By Omar Sohail Jan 31 SHARE TWEET SUBMIT Galaxy S20 Series to Stick to Snapdragon 865, Not Exynos 990, for Samsung’s Home Market A while back, shortly after Qualcomm officially announced the Snapdragon 865, reports came in that the majority of Samsung’s Galaxy S20 shipments wouldn’t feature the Korean giant’s Exynos 990. One reason could be that the Snapdragon 865 brings more to the table than what the Exynos 990 offers and according to info from a tipster, that could be true for. A fresh leak shows that the Galaxy S20 series launching in South Korea, Samsung’s home market, will also sport Snapdragon 865 SoCs.
Samsung Using the Snapdragon 865 Is More Than Enough Evidence That Qualcomm’s Latest SoC Is Superior Ice Universe has shared evidence that was later confirmed by Max Weinbach about the Galaxy S20’s chipset headed for South Korea. According to the Twitter thread, a lot of people are surprised that Samsung wouldn’t opt for its own silicon for its home turf. That’s probably more than enough evidence showing Snapdragon 865’s superiority over the Exynos 990.
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More evidence is Samsung shutting down its in-house chip development facility in Austin, with earlier reports stating that the company’s Exynos range would consume more power and was less powerful than the Snapdragon range. For the time being, Samsung will rely on ARM’s performance cores for future chipsets rather than using its Mongoose range but that doesn’t mean the company has thrown in the towel.
To be sure, the Korean version of the Galaxy S20 series uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 865 processor, which is a good thing. pic.twitter.com/dulnSj27y0
— Ice universe (@UniverseIce) January 31, 2020
An early rumor from the same leakster Ice Universe detailed than a 5nm Exynos 1000 is under development and it may use either ARM’s Mali-A78 GPU, or a solution from AMD thanks to their partnership that was announced back in 2019. At the same time, Qualcomm will be looking to keep consistent pressure on Samsung as the San Diego chipmaker plans to unveil its 5nm Snapdragon 875 later in 2020.
A lot of exciting things are expected to show up this year, but for now, do you think it’s the right move for Samsung to switch to a Snapdragon 865 for its home market? Let us know down in the comments.
This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Feb 19 2020, 09:24 AM
That's because ppl are getting lazy to manage them. That has been the whole point from the beginning. One can argue how this n that is important but how often do you used those junk? Once or twice a year? If you're using them often, I think you can already memorize them.
A phone should be a temporary intermediate storage holder that last for as long as you kept the phone. When you change phone, you should only copies over the most important ones and get rid of the junks. This is why they introduced cloud storage because they knew it's a big business due to people's laziness to manage their junks.
+1 I know some people who are keeping "useless" pictures just because they are too lazy to manage their files. These are the same people who complain why they run out of storage and that's the only time they will delete hundreds of pictures.
Yeah....i also think the Snapdragon vs Exynos issue has been blown out of proportion by certain quarters. I mean why would Samsung use SD chipsets for the S20 range for their homeground Korean market. Koreans must be sheeps.
Wccftech LEAK ⋮ MOBILE Samsung Won’t Be Using Its Custom Exynos 990 for the Galaxy S20 Series in Its Home Market By Omar Sohail Jan 31 SHARE TWEET SUBMIT Galaxy S20 Series to Stick to Snapdragon 865, Not Exynos 990, for Samsung’s Home Market A while back, shortly after Qualcomm officially announced the Snapdragon 865, reports came in that the majority of Samsung’s Galaxy S20 shipments wouldn’t feature the Korean giant’s Exynos 990. One reason could be that the Snapdragon 865 brings more to the table than what the Exynos 990 offers and according to info from a tipster, that could be true for. A fresh leak shows that the Galaxy S20 series launching in South Korea, Samsung’s home market, will also sport Snapdragon 865 SoCs.
Samsung Using the Snapdragon 865 Is More Than Enough Evidence That Qualcomm’s Latest SoC Is Superior Ice Universe has shared evidence that was later confirmed by Max Weinbach about the Galaxy S20’s chipset headed for South Korea. According to the Twitter thread, a lot of people are surprised that Samsung wouldn’t opt for its own silicon for its home turf. That’s probably more than enough evidence showing Snapdragon 865’s superiority over the Exynos 990.
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More evidence is Samsung shutting down its in-house chip development facility in Austin, with earlier reports stating that the company’s Exynos range would consume more power and was less powerful than the Snapdragon range. For the time being, Samsung will rely on ARM’s performance cores for future chipsets rather than using its Mongoose range but that doesn’t mean the company has thrown in the towel.
To be sure, the Korean version of the Galaxy S20 series uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 865 processor, which is a good thing. pic.twitter.com/dulnSj27y0
— Ice universe (@UniverseIce) January 31, 2020
An early rumor from the same leakster Ice Universe detailed than a 5nm Exynos 1000 is under development and it may use either ARM’s Mali-A78 GPU, or a solution from AMD thanks to their partnership that was announced back in 2019. At the same time, Qualcomm will be looking to keep consistent pressure on Samsung as the San Diego chipmaker plans to unveil its 5nm Snapdragon 875 later in 2020.
A lot of exciting things are expected to show up this year, but for now, do you think it’s the right move for Samsung to switch to a Snapdragon 865 for its home market? Let us know down in the comments.
i search for korean version and found this which is the same with malaysia version SM-G988F/DS both run by exynos chipset SM-G988N SM-G988NZAAKOO (Cosmic Gray – 256GB Storage) SM-G988NZKAKOO (Cosmic Black – 256GB Storage) Exynos 990 – 12GB RAM Korea – SKT – LG U+ – KT 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900 3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz 4G LTE: Bands B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B3 (1800), B4 (AWS), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700), B13 (700), B18 ( 800), B19 (800), B20 (800), B25 (1900), B26 (850), B28 (700), B66 (AWS-3) 4G TDD LTE: Bands B38 (2600), B39 (1900), B40 (2300), B41 (2500) 5G: Band N78 (3500)
I still feel 256GB should be the min storage from 2020 onwards for high-end phones. Just my 2cents.
It's kinda backwards thinking when cloud storage is the future. All my photos prior 2020 are in Google Photos. The problem with having so many files on your phone is it reads each and every file when accessing an app that requires viewing file content like images or videos. To me, all OEMs should have at least 128gb storage. 64gb is laughable.
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