To try and end all redundant threads, I've created this topic solely for it's arguementive purpose.

No more "PSP or NDS, which better?" threads, instead, we have just ONE thread to make all discussions.

Similarly, the Next Gen Console thread has been unpinned, that's where the other "PS3 vs. 360" debate goes to.

Points to keep on this thread:

• Why is X handheld better than the other
• User testimonials based on experience

Ok for me personally i think both handhelds are good in their own kinda way:

1) PSP : if you want a good all rounder in terms of video player, games, music player, wifi surfer, picture viewer, love homebrew and 3rd party software, the psp has many features to be explore and unlocked. The potential is endless if you have time to survey and research.

I've been using my PSP for like about 5 years now, still strong and running. Its like i said it meets all my demand for a good all rounder gadget, portable gamer, mp3 player, mp4 player, wifi, JPEG viewer, and the screen is among the best and sharpest in the market for a gadget this size.

2) NDSL : if you enjoyed nintendo games like super mario (who doesn't right?), surf internet, like touch screen interface (pen stylus). There is a vast library of fun games that can be enjoyed by all ages.

Been testing my friends NDSL for quite some time now about a year, i really like the fun games and the interface some games are played, a good game to get you and your girl in the mood for games are games like nintendogs, quite cute and cuddly those puppies. Super Mario Bros is still damn good fun for hours and replay value.

Ok let see, say if you are on a subway going someplace or work. I pick the NDSL anytime, why? Because you can enjoy the games instantly and load times are minimal for the games.

For psp games you need to wait for the load times and the game settings you wanna choose and stuff, btw when everything is done most likely you already reach your destination.

If budget allows you new buyers out there, i suggest you get both the NDSL and PSP, as both newer models are going to be launched soon, these 2 handhelds will turn out to be a great all time classic for years to come.

This post has been edited by quiksilve: Jul 19 2007, 09:42 AM

Owned and played both systems....

PSP
It was the coolest gadget to come out at the time, and rightfully so. I was wowed by its sleek design, pretty screen and multimedia features. But after the novelty wore off, you just realise that it's a great system with poor selection of games. There weren't really any memorable games on the system, the ones I remember playing the most were Lumines, Hot Shots Golf and Darkstalkers. Add to that, a 3-4 hour battery life meant that my gaming experience was seriously hampered, having to recharge so often. My PSP was promptly sold off.

NDSL
After the PSP came the NDSL. By the time I sold my PSP, the NDSL had a stellar selection of games. It had Castlevania, Advance Wars, Mario, and many other great games that I wanted to play. So I took the plunge and got the NDSL, and it has been a blast since. Great battery life, nice screens, and most importantly, THE GAMES!!!

NDSL has a good variety of games. For the old school gamer, we have the classic series like Castlevania and Mario to satisfy, whilst games like EBA, Ouendan all provided new, innovative games. In the end it's a win-win situation as NDSL caters for both hardcore and casual gamers.

What can I say, I can't imagine life without my NDSL now. Even if it doesn't play music or videos, it's an excellent gaming machine

Currenly Having NDSL.

Great selection of games, games, high replay value, and i am very impress with the graphic, battery life, and the "Quick Play" Which cut down all the load time, save, and pause game whenever i want =)

This is HOW console are meant to be !

My personal opinion on PSP would be, i rather buy another NDSL, give it to my friend and ask them Play Mario Kart with me =P

hmmm
a friend shows me a list of all video games console.
NDS sales is way way higher than PSP
i 4got the figure of the sales de.. n 4got which site he get the info frm


o ya
n at HK and Japan subways/train, I c way way more more ppl playing NDS than PSP..
hehe..

well overall NDS for girly games.. so me got NDS.. n the touch screen.. i like the touch screen..
PSP no touch screen me no like hehe..
but then PSP graphics better than NDS lo...
so i think at the end depends on wat kinda games u wanne play...

i c Nicole Kidman doin an ad for NDS. i'm not sure for NDS or the game Brain Age. she was holding a white NDS.. so sweet


This post has been edited by butterfleur23: Jul 19 2007, 01:47 PM

but in S'pore, ppl playing PSP more than NDS, but depends on your choice..
i bought PSP1.5 b4, but games is so boring and nothing speical...only big screen and better sound performance ...
NDS is better, you can play anytime you want ...

well depends on game..if you;re a monster hunter type gamer get a psp, but if you prefer sprites and 2D game get NDSL instead.

Well, i agree in Singapore got more people play PSP, well...Singaporeans.....

I think i'll be able to give more comments on PSP once i buy this next month =/

psp launched in 2004, u re dreaming.

don buy PSP now, wait for the new version lol


better STEREO, Video Output, 64 RAM..

This post has been edited by sauying: Jul 20 2007, 09:07 AM

Is that true? there will be a newer model of ndsl coming soon?

currently NO, waiting for TGS ..

currently im also torn between these 2 handhelds...dun know which to choose...*head cracking*

anyway, ive observed that in LYN, there are more used PSP for sales (and buying) as compared to NDSL....

mmm....i wonder what this means....

still prefer my handheld powerbrick tetris game
full hd 1080p

@ leenaz: You're right, Tetris does rock(am Tetris freak myself).

@ zito: Maybe those people aren't having fun with their PSPs. Having to update/downgrade their firmwares all the time(??). The delicate-ness of the handheld itself. Maybe using it as a media plater ain't such a great idea at all(if you don't use GREAT quality vids). (please don't rebut this paragraph, see below)

I'd really like to know why PSPs owners are still PSP owners. Maybe someone will enlighten us. I know it plays game, media, does homebrew, but what makes the PSP stand out?

to know my reason:




read my name


more specifically,
MGS PO
MGA
MGA2
MGSPO+(coming soon )

then come the rest like Syphon Filter, Loco roco ,Killzone Liberation, etc..

plus PSX emulation is a great plus
reliving MGS on the go...
it's too bad bout the double disc,though...still dunno how to change discs


as for the multimedia capabilities,IMHO,the sound sucks balls.
so frickin' soft
take it to a shopping mall,and pray the game or movie you are playing has subtitles, or else you're screwed (well,if u malas wanna bring earphones along,la... )

metal gear solid P0. Monster hunter 1.2. locco rocco.work time fun.lumines.gta series.killzone.untold legends. burnout series. hot shot golf. winning eleven,infected.ratchet and clank.socom series. ea sports series.tekken.syphon filters, splinter cell..okay i take that back oh, and those awesome ultraman beat'em up.i love everything about ultraman.psx emulation(not 100% but going there).no issues with routers. picture viewer.out of the box mp3 player...avi player and mp4 player.out of thebox internet connection (sometimes connect to cimb clicks to pay bills).gPSP,NESpsp(gba and snes emu on psp)remote play with ps3.oh it can double as a gigantic usb drive.

for us nothing too fussy with upgrading the firmware coz with every new upgrade, usually a new feature is unlocked.Those who got their psps bricked deserve it since they do not read the process all the way. those r the reasons i m still with my psp.

PSP or NDSL, ultimately it's in the game that they offer. No point bragging about which hardware is more superior.

I have 2 PSPs and playing some games with my 5 years old boy. Not many titles that is suitable for a kid.

Sold 1 PSP recently, going to get an NDSL.

There are quite a number of games available on the NDSL simply more suitable for kids.

If gameplay is good, I will get another one just to play with my boy.

By the way, NDSL, hacked, loaded and ready to go, costs only RM600 here in HK.

wow?? really?? RM100++ diff!!
going HK soon, perhaps i shld get it there, rather than here...

btw, abt battery, psp consumes more power than nsdl, is that correct?
if yes...then psp potong stim lar...

That is sort of true. Various reasons, continuous steaming from UMD, brightness of screen..

But the new redesigned PSP seems to address those issues. Faster load times(games/softwares), and longer battery life, reportedly lasts longer than the current Nintendo DS Lite.

This post has been edited by sihumchai: Jul 23 2007, 01:49 PM

If i'm not mistaken the upcoming PSP 2 will comes with a slimmer battery with 1200mH power rating, lower than the previous one with 1800 rating. Hence basically the battery duration will basicall be the same. However using the older battery, albeit with a new battery cover due to different battery size will expand the battery duration up to 10 hours.

really?
any psp owner here can help us verify this, pls??
thx...

PSP Slim haven't come out, how to verify.

I spend more time playing games on my psp than ndsl. I think it depends on which genre games you like to play. I prefer playing football, fighting, and some racing games on psp than ndsl. Why? cuz the graphics are SUPERIOR!

ndsl is more for those who like platform games like mario,RPGs, etc.
the stylus is fun tho, great for games like EBA, Trauma Center.

kinda regretting buy a NDSL, but im still gonna keep it. gonna test out those new games coming (dragon quest, zelda...)

BTW, currently imma playin tales of the world on my psp (superb 3D graphics)

haha...okok...tot its out oredi, coz shops r offering attractive packages for current psp, which i tot was "stock clearing" strategy...

anyway, anybody here can comment on the "fragility" of the 2 handhelds? which one requires more "care" while using?

thx.

my psp fell from a 1.5(give or take) meter table,brought down by my dog no less,she wrestled with it,chewed out the mspd,tore apart the mspd cover,scratched the umd drive cover,(probably)ate my analog nub,ruined the top left part of my screen protector

but the unit is still working fantastically well

I love my silver PSP & my "PIRATES!" game.

wow~ geng!
mind showing us a pic of ur psp? keke....

ndsl owners, any comment on ur ndsl's durability?

My Nintendo DS(old one) is still good. Has not been dropped before, but I've pretty much chucked/dumped my pouch on the ground, many times as if there was nothing valueble in it.

Still works. I've even read an article about someone dropping their DS into the pooper.. And it still works!

Dropped my lite a couple times, but then again while it was in the Airform pouch. No problems till now. Love the bloody thing.

airfoam pouch too?? then i shld get one when i get my ndsl....

anyway, back to the battery issue, so as at current state, ndsl's battery can last longer than psp (on per fully-charged basis), is that correct?

Well, that is true.. As a testimony to two(2) joint gatherings, the PSP and NDS fiesta, the folks who brought PSPs ran out of juice in a matter of hours, say 3-4? (think of constant wifi usage) Where else the NDS crew was still happily playing.

The NDSL is very good at power conservation. Set volume to lowest/none, screen brightness to lowest, the red battery can tahan up to 30 mins- 1 hour

Again, with the new redesign(PSP), I hope to see a change. Rather than them having to lug around the charger, and look for a socket.

awesome!!
having to "lug around the charger, and look for a socket" is definately potong stim lar...
another point added to ndsl.

there is also a saying that psp is more for guys, and ndsl is more for girls (in general).
any comments?

(in actual fact, i saw many guys playing with ndsl, but selsome see girls play psp wor...mmm...)

Well, can't say much about guys/girls loving NDSL. But from collected data in Europe, seems that more NDS owners are girls This is because of the Nintendogs craze early in the NDS's life. Really ramped up sales.
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As for which demograph plays more handheld, I'd say M'sia itself isn't very open to "gadgets" like these(yet).. I still see kids with Gameboy Advances, and you know the word "Gameboy" will be immediately associated with "kiddy/for kids". Dunno if that explains why the elderly frowns upon handheld gamers.
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And up to today, people still think DS/Nintendo is the shitz. Especially if they see a NDS phat now. Had a friend who commented on my DS and said, "wtf is this crap".. Only to see him selling off his PSP 2 months ago to get a NDSL

haha...no wonder i see many trading has taken place in LYN for used psp, but seldom see any for ndsl....

lets talk about the games for the 2 consoles.
1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?
2. ndsl's games are famous for the gameplay. can someone give us some actual examples on how nsdl's gameplay outperform psp's? (yeah, we know abt the stylus and the mic, but pls tell us precisely on how these can improve the gameplay)

thx in advance for any comments.

anybody have link that compare/review these 2 platform in terms of hardware and games lineup?

thanks

I don't know about the first sentence, but as I said earlier on in this thread:
We don't have the exact answer, maybe because bored? (thus explaining lack of.. um.. *awesome* games) ..
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But back to your comments:

Firstly, the PSP does have some memorable games, not that I know of, but I can name Lumines and Killzone. But hey, they got Parappa the Rapper!

And secondly, that's a DAMN GOOD question. Never seen before.

But I seriously can't give a yes/no answer at the moment. Because the arguement of console vs. handheld, and PSP being 'just like' PS2(a home console) confuses me much.

But in my opinion, I'd say yes. The PSP does what the PS2 does, and more. Plus, it's a portable.

Simple, if you were to choose between these two Ninty product, which would you choose?

A Nintendo 64? Or a Nintendo DS? (DS is just as, or even more powerful than N64)

Quite clear



One good example would be Metroid Prime Hunters, a first-person-shooter. With the touch-screen, aided with the stylus or the thumbstrap, the touch-screen aims works just like a mouse. Well, not many people would believe that, but it really does work. Metroid Prime Hunters just felt like Quake 1 on a DS.

How about other games you say, I'm trying to think of something 'new'.. but this game was rather old, Kirby's Paint Brush or something like that.. It's a simple 2-d sidescroller, Kirby had arms and legs, but in this particular game, his arms/legs were erased So basicly, you've got this magical paintbrush(stylus) to help him move around. Simply tapping Kirby will make him dash(he moves on his own), but if there's a pit infront of him you can draw a bridge for him to cross. You can even draw a shield for him, for temporary protection. But these paints wears off after time, so.. strategy abit la

Just a few good uses and implementations of DS games, something the PSP cannot achieve.

You're welcome. I enjoy these discussions.

since the new psp will be release... will the old psp price drop?

since getting the psp,i have never even touched my ps2
well,i stopped playing it since before FF12 came out..the PSP only condemned it to dust collector status even more

it should.
but if the new PSPs dont get their own custom firmware,the old psp's price will go up.(most probably)

I dunno bout this but its my own experience

For PSP, I never got the chance to play outside, basically 1 of the prob is the battery long lasting. 2ndly, the loading time takes forever (1. load the UMD > enter PSP screen > Game loading > Menu > Load saved file > Loading > Game starts) These loading will ruin my time while waiting and I only can enjoy for a bit. 3rdly, its really hard to see the PSP's screen when u r under the sunlight, possibly u can see it at all! 4thly, good thing bout psp is some of the game like music genre games are suitable for psp, while fighting games are poorly done on psp, especially tekken and street fighter, I have prob fighting probably like wad we do on ps2 or arcade and my hand gets tired after holding the psp for a while.

For NDS, the loading speed is alot faster than psp. you could say most of the game does not need loading at all. Thats why playing ds with little waiting time can let u go furthur gaming. the screen is visible even its under the sunlight, though it hard to see. you cant say nintendo games are for kids, nintendo games are for those who don play games and those who wanna play a quick game, friendly games and fun games. The thing bout ds lite is that the surface is easily printed smudge on it and it can be scratch easily if not careful.

So then, I like psp, but i prefer ndsl

i owned a psp... so for SWATwolf.. ur problem is not that major... u need more power get extra batt pack.. there got sell bigger power bank in the market, as for loading time, i think its not that long if u know how to make it short... hahaha i assume u have original copy of ur UMD, so what u can do is make a iso copy of ur umd.. load it in ur mem stick then walla.. done.. but for this to happen u need to have the nifty OE firmware and big mspd.. 2gb can say ok la.. but another problem is all this = to more cash.. haha

my problem with psp is it dont have much game for me to play... damm..

i think i may get nds but i dont know what game is good to play.... im more to rpg.. racing.. adventure... mmm.. other than tat 3d and fun game... ant suggestion? i really not into platformer hahaha i guess handheld not really design for me then... hahaha

thx for excellent examples.
but im curious (frankly ive never actually play ndsl before, so this may sound a bit stupid...), when u play with stylus, and your other hand is holding the console, isnt that abit tiring?? bcoz u need to support the entire console with only one hand...(except if you put it on a flat surface - like on a table - while playing)

pls share with us your experience. thx.

unlike ndsl, ive actually tried my hands on psp. i was playing a tennis game (so its an action game), when i tried to move the tennis player around, my hands tend to move together too (ya know, just like when we play on a home console), and thus the screen moved and my eyes needed to follow the movement too....wah...damn tiring lar...

anybody face the same problem? or its just me??

so psp is for those who prefer indoor+has more time for games??
then wld/t it be more realistic to own a home console instead??

can SWATwolf kindly further explain on: "nintendo games are for those who don play games", please? keen to know your view on this lar.


ok, so now psp is for those who prefer indoor+has more time for games+loaded with cash??

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another question, its abt firmware.
for psp, dont we have a specific firmware tt can do every damn thing?? or we need to upgrade/downgrade everytime we wana try something new??
for ndsl, do we have problem with firmware??


yday read on paper that the new psp (on sales in Japan in Sept) can actually watch TV prog (of coz, with an additional device lar). so its getting clear that Sony is positioning psp as a multimedia entertainment machine, rather than a pure gamming machine.

so perhaps the question that lies within the potential handheld buyer (like myself) is: u want a multi function entertainment machine, or u just want a cool solid gamming machine?

firmware is like os.. Even our windows also keep on changing... there is few reason that there is firmware change.. one is for fixing bug, adding new feature and to control piracy.. hahaha

dont know bout nds but psp always got new firmware coming out... psp can do alot of thing by using home brew but u need OE firmware. since DA already wrap all his job so now few more come out. so all in all there will always be custom firm ware for sure. if with out the custom firmware psp still can watch movie surf internet play mp3 but i didnt use it for this purpose since me only for gaming... but sadly psp didnt have much good title for me.

another psp bashing thread. lmao.

You came in here just to say this?

And no, it's a informative/discussive thread for potential handheld buyers.

If you think that the PSP doesn't deserved to be bashed, at least contribute something to why it shouldn't.

anyone?

well, let's say I give a lady who doesnt play game at all, yet they can play without asking how when i let them play, new super mario bros, tetris ds, some touching mini games, nintendogs. Though they do ask a little bit about the buttons. Interface are so easily recognize that they dun even need instructions.

This post has been edited by SWATwolf: Jul 25 2007, 10:44 PM

For me, I LOVE my PSP.....and that's it. How about games? Well I like to play RPG....like Chrono Cross and FF Series but it seems lacking in PSP. The only game I enjoy on my PSP is Valkyrie Profile. I tried games like NFS and MGS but it's not that enjoyable for me. So in the end I started playing PSOne titles on my PSP. For me it all boils down to preference of games. I have nothing against PSP.....like I mentioned I love my PSP, that is until last 2 month someone stole my beloved PSP from me and I just bought a NDSL....well actually my wife bought it for me actually. The PSP stolen incident is partly her fault and she feel guilty about it. She asked me if I wanted a PSP again and I told her maybe not.....after doing my research on games available for both platform, I found out...hey maybe NDSL is better for me as it has FF III and FFXII is coming out and who doesn't love Mario.

So now it's NDSL for me but I WILL buy a PSP too as FF is coming out. Thats it for me.

wait for star ocean remake and star ocean second story remake to come to psp. they are both solid rpg too. how i wish i got a psp.

Oh yeah that too.....another reason for me to get another PSP then....Heheheh.....I'm a sucka for solid RPG!

me too...... or shud i say i am a sucker for tri ace rpg? haiz, why dont they release a good rpg on nds? at least i am satisfied wif star ocean remake edy.

need your opinion, which one would your wife pinjam from u to play? psp or ndsl?
thx.

Back in late 2005 I bought a secondhand DS Phat from a friend. My then gf was sceptical when I showed her the games - until she got her hands on Animal Crossing. I believe she spent 70 hours on it. Then there was Meteos.

6 months later I bought my NDSL, and she in turn took my old DS so we could play against each other on Mario Kart, Mario Hoops, Clubhouse Games, Meteos.

Up until now she (now my wife, a non gamer) actually spends at least an hour a day on Puzzle Quest, Meteos and Brain Age. My father in law LOVES the Sudoku, and my mum has taken to trying out Puzzle Quest.

So if you're asking which is the "friendlier" console? The NDS without a doubt.

80% of games in my psp are psone games.

I wanted to have a PSP but after looking at the games.... i lost half interest since most of them are port from PS2. The only game i am interested is MGSPO. Thought of buying it 1 month ago but heard that new PSP coming out then hold back......when is the new PSP coming out anyway?

For NDSL been playing with it for 1 year, games are nice and really fun, thx to Mr Mario, RPG are interesting too but wat i like most are those brain testing game like brain age, eye training, and bla bla bla.... very enjoyable.... i think everyone would love the games of NDS but not everyone will like games from PSP.

PSP for Bomberman and Virtua Tennis and NDSL not yet coz haven't buy any games yet . Just got it this week. But I feel she would like the NDSL better. She's a Mario fan and also she complained before that there's no games for her to play on the PSP before even I have a whole loads of games with me.

Personally for me, PSP has done so much for me. Playing games can sometimes be boring after a while, and that is where PSP multi functions plays a role by being an MP3, MP4 player, Image Viewer and modding hobby.

Plus, ditching out my PSP in front of public will definitely catch the people's attention around me. Hehe....not that I'm being a show-off but its obvious I can feel people around me eering at my PSP and talking about it. I don't intend on showing it off purposely, but I dont deny the feeling of it is nice. I guess the UMD door logo really is an attention grabber. More than once I have strangers coming up to me and see in close view what I'm playing. Some, even asked if I may let them try it for a while. I dont mind.

Another thing, since I bought it...my sisters been begging me to buy one for them. At first it was weird since I thought girls would dig to NDSL, so I ask them IF I were to buy a portable console, would they prefer a cute NDSL....they said a flat no. To them, PSP is the real definition of 'cool' and edgy gadget. As for the cute factor, they wanted the pearl white color.

Nuff said, they didnt even bothered about the games....as long as they have one of the coolest portable in the industry. B)

thx fot sharing....
im thinking of buy a handheld that both me and my wife can share share to play....i guess ndsl is the one then!

i hate when this happens...
countless times i've played the psp in public,and some stupid kids come up...not only look at the game im playing,but put their damn head right in front of my screen!
stupid kids,parents dont teach manners

org tengah sedap main,ni pi kecoh letak muka besar depan skrin..bodoh

and occasionally there are the odd restaurant workers who stand on my left/right,pretend to look elsewhere,and peeping at the thing..

another thing i hate about the psp...it's an attention grabber

The DS does grab some attention too.. Like you said(Mgsrulz), restraunt workers come and see what's going on. Normal la, they never seen before

Once, I was in LRT going to gathering, nicely I play Tetris DS while standing and then suddenly a kid comes by, tip-toes, and peeks into what I'm doing.

Nvmind la

im perfectly fine if they want to look ,but dont have to look until you block the player's view! (cos that is extremely annoying,added with the parents who are smiling to their kids while they(the kids) intrude )

ps.
i never meant to say the NDSL/NDS isnt an attention grabber ,but typical malaysian mentality,i guess... better graphics=better console.

budak2, biasa la..later u have kids of your own u will understand

that's what everyone always says..

if/when i have kids,no way in hell im smiling when they menyampuk in other people's business

Yup, I know. Cosmeticly, the Phat DS was a failure. The prototype looked WORSE. But the lite makes it look like a girls make-up kit

But I'll have to agree that the PSP design is nice, cramming in technology, first revision already quite nipis, now second revision looks the same, but really much smaller and lighter I think the word is 'sleek', or should we say, 'slick'?

I might get one(in future) if the software library intrigues me. Only Virtua Tennis World Tour/3 has me wanting some good portable tennis fun.

Currently im a psp owner.
After reading this thread, almost everyone said that NDSL is a gamer choice. make myself also wanna have a try on NDSL.
truth to be told, im not a heavy gamer, i bought the psp because im always travel around and i need 1 all in 1 device, the PSP is my selected device.

My opinion on my "little white" PSP
Cool graphic, the display is awesome, wide screen, enjoy the movie very much when im on board.
Sound quality... compare to iPod, iPod better a bit. cause i didnt really try out the NDSL, so cant compare with it.
Wifi, at the beginning, not comfortable with because of no keyboard. compare to my PDA, dont know why PSP signal is better than my PDA.
Game, as stated just now, im not a heavy gamer, but just few only i likes to play, not more than 5 i think.
Other, personal la, when taking out the PSP, everyone was looking, cause white colour quite attractive, and proud to me own a PSP.

NDSL
i need some advise from this device. planning to get one, but i have no idea with it.
is it there got recon set NDSL?
how to insert games?
and i saw many what what slot, what SD card... im really no idea of it.

Thanks for your advice.

both handheld is an eye catcher... hahaha so hard to say.. one time i play my psp in airport while waiting for boarding time.. and the best thing is there is few kinds there.. and to my suprise these kids 3 out of 5 have psp on their hand too.. so no one care to bug me.. so nice when u can play wif no one kacau.. hahaha it seem like now days psp already normal for most ppl... since the price tag is quite affordable la.. and in my head is.. kan bagus kalau my parent buy me all i want like those kids.. haha

next time ask those kids for wifi battle!

Heheheh last time I kena before the boy saw me playing my psp and asked his mother to buy him 1 and I kena taruk from the mother.....saying "why you play this thing in front of my boy? You see, now he wants 1 too!"......I really pening.

lol

Where can get a lits for both NDSL games list n psp game list?

Anybody can help?

oppss...btw, i m a psp owner. Been playing "ONLY" Metal Slug since i bought the handheld 2 months ago. I m not hardcore player, bought the PSP because I often go overseas. So, 2 hours in airport n few hours on buses or taxi or trains really killing me. So, thats why I end up with PSP.

I bought the psp for another reason is because I hardly hear ppl talk about NDSL, if i can browse thru this thread earlier, i might get myself a NDSL. Coz, i prefer easy game.. maybe mario?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PSP_games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DS_games

what is the best price for ndsl now? including r4..

hehe, i understand how u feel

haha... nice also.. didnt even remember to ask them to wifi battle wif me.. hahaha but sure there are rich kids la.. they have bags of umds.. hahah

LOL.. funny.. if i were u.. i told the lady.." my thing my money, this public place... so what? if there is sign no psp allowed then i dont play.... bring ur kids some where else la..kacau only... ".. hahaha

Personally, I would prefer the NDSL because first, it truly is 'portable'. It's smaller than the PSP therefore far easy to carry around. Also, because of it's clamshell design, the interior is likely to be damaged compare to the PSP which is more damage prone. Sure there are protections for both parties, which means more size and weight.
(NDSL winning so far)

So now let's move on the graphics. Obviously, PSP has better graphics, but, think about, since when does better graphics = better games? Isn't the whole point of getting a gaming console is having fun with good games? Again, there are more fun games that is playable on the NDSL (Combining the old classic GBA games) compared to the PSP. Also, Sony's UMD disc isn't a very nice thing to carry around when you travel.

Now, to R4 vs the Memory stick. The Memory stick and the MicroSD card is about the same price, but, a DS's 'Homebrew games' are on average 50~60 MB. Which means, you could have nearly 20 games on a 1 GB MicroSD card. The PSP's 'homebrew games' are on average near 10 times that amount, you'll be lucky to shove 3 games into one card.

So if you ask me, the NDSL is no doubt better than the PSP overall has a portable gaming device. Sony's decision to make a 'all-in-one portable gaming system' is probably the PSP's biggest flaw. So if you always on the rush who need a quick shot of gaming, the NDSL is the way to go.

finally got my NDSL!!


This post has been edited by zito9: Jul 31 2007, 07:47 PM

Try playing warioware inside the lrt, sure a lot of eyes looking at you...

may i know R4 is use for?

planning to get one 'soon'. currently more toward the NDS. Can anyone list 10 'must have' game for each handheld?

take mine with a pinch of salt,since it's damn freakin biased(yeah,i admit it straight out )


This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Aug 1 2007, 10:53 PM

if i get the ndsl, the only reason is because of the "nintendogs"

I got psp, n wii.

err... just curious.. why buy ndsl when u can play it games with psp

you cant play NDS games on the psp.
you can,however,play gb,gbc,gba,psx,n64,megadrive,snes,etc games on the psp

i used to have a psp until recently. got robbed. i was stuck with it for as long as i remember. it has pretty good games too.

daxter, ratchet and clank, virtua tennis 3, tales of the world, loco roco, metal gear solid PO

but truth is good game is hard to come by, but thats even out by the audio, video (video quality is superb, wide screen somemore), wifi, homebrew etc. you can read ebooks on psp, you can have it as universal remote controller, you can play emulators on it, and not to mention PSone games. and psp is sleek as hell to look at. all in all its a very good overall multimedia machine, just depending on what you want. the graphic is sleek to boot.

and for god of war fans, god of war chains of olympus is coming out, thats one reason to get PSP now. God of war is the best game for PS2 so really, i might buy PSP just to play that game.

i just got NDSL tho, still haven't explore much cause no moolah to buy ori game and no moolah to buy R4 yet so basically can't play anything yet. but been reading up on NDSL i must say the games are really nice, from the reviews and stuff. and apparently NDSL can read ebooks, watch video listen to mp3 as well as homebrews and emulator. thats a really nice incentive to have NDSL. but i don't like NDSL design, it really looks like girl's make up kit, and opening it, it has slightly a cheapo feel as compare to PSP. but the touch screen is awesome. not to mention FPS will be a breeze in NDSL. ever tried playing FPS games on ps2? it sucks 10 times with PSP.

so depends on what you want. psp has little strong titles but the good ones are quite good nonetheless and its a damn sleek multimedia machine. ndsl is great for games altho its kinda low on the graphic quality side. but hey u'll never get bored of it due to the amount of games. but i'm still fuming over my lost psp and not being able to play upcoming god of war

This post has been edited by sephquartz: Aug 7 2007, 11:37 AM

Hmm... too many discussion on psp vs nds. Not many of you have both but i do. And all i can say, whichever games that have good review on each platform are good to play. I have the ds first, then the psp about 6 month later. At the moment i play more psp than the ds. Since there are more games that suits my taste on the psp, compared to ds.

best ader 2-2 tak nyesal, first thinking of buying another ds so can wifi with my wife, but after long thinking, beli ler psp (2nd jer) just to test, (and to play her favorite games - ratchet and clank. (i bought both for her birthday instead of a pink ds) . Plus a portable GTA is hard for me to resist. If not satisfied can always sell back. But i didn't and we love them both.

I wish one day i can buy another of both handheld, but dgn commitment kerja dan upbring those two anak2 buas kat umah its hard for us to play together anymore like the time when we were just married. (There are free time, but for other activity )

No need la bashing which one is better. But its good to have both. At the moment, i play psp all the time and for ds only to update my brain age stats. My wife like to play the ds more. Its lighter to hold. And lots of games suits her. I will berebut the DS again from her when Zelda come out. At the moment we berebut finishing GTA:LC to 100% whos's first. (She tops me in racthet first).

But not everybody can buy both at the same time. So just examine what ur prefference first. If can later, buy both. No regrets.

Adios

Thx for sharing ur opinion on both handheld...
tis problem(chosing btwn ndsl/psp) keep playing on my mind for few months...
i can't decide which to buy...
if i got enuf budget, i would like to haf both...

who wouldnt?

btw,another tragedy,further proof how the psp's build quality is fantastic.

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Added on August 7, 2007, 8:43 pmwho wouldnt?

btw,another tragedy,further proof how the psp's build quality is fantastic.


This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Aug 7 2007, 08:43 PM

^my mistake..it IS possible to play NDS games on the psp



forum link: homebrew FTW

Wow. True the PSP has nice emulation capabilities, but this is taking it too far!

"Sega, does what Nintendon't.."

"The PSP does what Nintendoes!"

I bought my gf 1-2 years back a GBA cos she's a freak for Mario. She's been playing that since late 80's i suppose. Can't recall. Anyway that is purely for Mario and nothing else. After that i bought her as a present a Gamecube and guess what, with Mario of course and only that. Last month I bought her a NDSL simply cos of Mario also. Guess what, now I can "pinjam" her GBA and carry it with me cos I travel to overseas often and for quite long time.

Personally I like PS. I have PS2 but PSP graphic is too good for handheld. I think it will be more suited for TV. NDSL game is more easy and relaxing. Quite fast too. Like what I said to my gf when she asked me if I want to buy and carry PSP to overseas and I said flat no. I need something lite and chose GBA instead. If I want something heavy I will stick to PS2. After sticking my hand in GBA now my hand abit gatal edi to get NDSL for myself. I don't mind the design wise eventhough it looks cute. I think for my handheld, I will need it to be cute cos I got other stuff which looks macho...

Handheld=Nintendo rules for the games, simplicity etc.
Console=PS..for me that is

Now Wii got Mario ler..haihz..sure she will think of that soon.
Cheers

Huhu, u are a good bf.

hi, mind telling me how or wat u use to change ur movie file?
i heard its super slow...
taking around 1 hr??

coz im a couch potato at the same time i travel most of the time..
i tried ds...i love the games
but since psp is kinda all-in-1...

but after reading all this...
it makes me thinking wat to get now... for my birthday present

This post has been edited by herher: Oct 8 2007, 09:30 PM

of course get PSP slim ^^

How can you even miss out FFTactics and FF7:Crisis Core!!!

This post has been edited by Strifer: Oct 9 2007, 01:20 AM