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zito9
post Jul 20 2007, 09:27 PM

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currently im also torn between these 2 handhelds...dun know which to choose...*head cracking*

anyway, ive observed that in LYN, there are more used PSP for sales (and buying) as compared to NDSL....

mmm....i wonder what this means....
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post Jul 23 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(AhRon @ Jul 22 2007, 09:08 AM)
By the way, NDSL, hacked, loaded and ready to go, costs only RM600 here in HK.
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wow?? really?? RM100++ diff!!
going HK soon, perhaps i shld get it there, rather than here... brows.gif

btw, abt battery, psp consumes more power than nsdl, is that correct?
if yes...then psp potong stim lar...
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 23 2007, 01:48 PM)
But the new redesigned PSP seems to address those issues. Faster load times(games/softwares), and longer battery life, reportedly lasts longer than the current Nintendo DS Lite.
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really? blink.gif
any psp owner here can help us verify this, pls??
thx...
zito9
post Jul 24 2007, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jul 23 2007, 06:02 PM)
PSP Slim haven't come out, how to verify.  laugh.gif
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haha...okok...tot its out oredi, coz shops r offering attractive packages for current psp, which i tot was "stock clearing" strategy... tongue.gif

anyway, anybody here can comment on the "fragility" of the 2 handhelds? which one requires more "care" while using?

thx.
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post Jul 24 2007, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jul 24 2007, 12:59 PM)
my psp fell from a 1.5(give or take) meter table,brought down by my dog no less,she wrestled with it,chewed out the mspd,tore apart the mspd cover,scratched the umd drive cover,(probably)ate my analog nub,ruined the top left part of my screen protector

but the unit is still working fantastically well thumbup.gif
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wow~ geng! notworthy.gif
mind showing us a pic of ur psp? keke....

ndsl owners, any comment on ur ndsl's durability? brows.gif


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post Jul 24 2007, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 02:04 PM)
My Nintendo DS(old one) is still good. Has not been dropped before, but I've pretty much chucked/dumped my pouch on the ground, many times as if there was nothing valueble in it.

Still works. I've even read an article about someone dropping their DS into the pooper.. doh.gif And it still works!
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airfoam pouch too?? then i shld get one when i get my ndsl....

anyway, back to the battery issue, so as at current state, ndsl's battery can last longer than psp (on per fully-charged basis), is that correct?
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post Jul 24 2007, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 03:57 PM)
Well, that is true.. As a testimony to two(2) joint gatherings, the PSP and NDS fiesta, the folks who brought PSPs ran out of juice in a matter of hours, say 3-4? (think of constant wifi usage) Where else the NDS crew was still happily playing.

The NDSL is very good at power conservation. Set volume to lowest/none, screen brightness to lowest, the red battery can tahan up to 30 mins- 1 hour laugh.gif

Again, with the new redesign(PSP), I hope to see a change. Rather than them having to lug around the charger, and look for a socket.
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awesome!!
having to "lug around the charger, and look for a socket" is definately potong stim lar...
another point added to ndsl.

there is also a saying that psp is more for guys, and ndsl is more for girls (in general).
any comments?

(in actual fact, i saw many guys playing with ndsl, but selsome see girls play psp wor...mmm...)
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post Jul 24 2007, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 04:40 PM)
And up to today, people still think DS/Nintendo is the shitz. Especially if they see a NDS phat now. Had a friend who commented on my DS and said, "wtf is this crap".. Only to see him selling off his PSP 2 months ago to get a NDSL yawn.gif
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haha...no wonder i see many trading has taken place in LYN for used psp, but seldom see any for ndsl.... brows.gif

lets talk about the games for the 2 consoles.
1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?
2. ndsl's games are famous for the gameplay. can someone give us some actual examples on how nsdl's gameplay outperform psp's? (yeah, we know abt the stylus and the mic, but pls tell us precisely on how these can improve the gameplay)

thx in advance for any comments. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 25 2007, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 06:40 PM)
Firstly, the PSP does have some memorable games, not that I know of, but I can name Lumines and Killzone. But hey, they got Parappa the Rapper!

And secondly, that's a DAMN GOOD question. Never seen before.

But I seriously can't give a yes/no answer at the moment. Because the arguement of console vs. handheld, and PSP being 'just like' PS2(a home console) confuses me much.

But in my opinion, I'd say yes. The PSP does what the PS2 does, and more. Plus, it's a portable.

Simple, if you were to choose between these two Ninty product, which would you choose?

A Nintendo 64? Or a Nintendo DS? (DS is just as, or even more powerful than N64)

Quite clear nod.gif
One good example would be Metroid Prime Hunters, a first-person-shooter. With the touch-screen, aided with the stylus or the thumbstrap, the touch-screen aims works just like a mouse. Well, not many people would believe that, but it really does work. Metroid Prime Hunters just felt like Quake 1 on a DS.

How about other games you say, I'm trying to think of something 'new'.. but this game was rather old, Kirby's Paint Brush or something like that.. It's a simple 2-d sidescroller, Kirby had arms and legs, but in this particular game, his arms/legs were erased doh.gif So basicly, you've got this magical paintbrush(stylus) to help him move around. Simply tapping Kirby will make him dash(he moves on his own), but if there's a pit infront of him you can draw a bridge for him to cross. You can even draw a shield for him, for temporary protection. But these paints wears off after time, so.. strategy abit la biggrin.gif

Just a few good uses and implementations of DS games, something the PSP cannot achieve.
You're welcome. I enjoy these discussions.
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thx for excellent examples. smile.gif
but im curious (frankly ive never actually play ndsl before, so this may sound a bit stupid...), when u play with stylus, and your other hand is holding the console, isnt that abit tiring?? bcoz u need to support the entire console with only one hand...(except if you put it on a flat surface - like on a table - while playing)

pls share with us your experience. thx.

unlike ndsl, ive actually tried my hands on psp. i was playing a tennis game (so its an action game), when i tried to move the tennis player around, my hands tend to move together too (ya know, just like when we play on a home console), and thus the screen moved and my eyes needed to follow the movement too....wah...damn tiring lar... rclxub.gif

anybody face the same problem? or its just me?? sweat.gif

QUOTE(SWATwolf @ Jul 24 2007, 11:30 PM)

For PSP, I never got the chance to play outside, basically 1 of the prob is the battery long lasting. 2ndly, the loading time takes forever (1. load the UMD > enter PSP screen > Game loading > Menu > Load saved file > Loading > Game starts) These loading will ruin my time while waiting and I only can enjoy for a bit. 3rdly, its really hard to see the PSP's screen when u r under the sunlight, possibly u can see it at all! 4thly, good thing bout psp is some of the game like music genre games are suitable for psp, while fighting games are poorly done on psp, especially tekken and street fighter, I have prob fighting probably like wad we do on ps2 or arcade and my hand gets tired after holding the psp for a while.

For NDS, the loading speed is alot faster than psp. you could say most of the game does not need loading at all. Thats why playing ds with little waiting time can let u go furthur gaming. the screen is visible even its under the sunlight, though it hard to see. you cant say nintendo games are for kids, nintendo games are for those who don play games and those who wanna play a quick game, friendly games and fun games. The thing bout ds lite is that the surface is easily printed smudge on it and it can be scratch easily if not careful.

So then, I like psp, but i prefer ndsl

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so psp is for those who prefer indoor+has more time for games??
then wld/t it be more realistic to own a home console instead?? tongue.gif

can SWATwolf kindly further explain on: "nintendo games are for those who don play games", please? keen to know your view on this lar.


QUOTE(mambo @ Jul 25 2007, 12:49 AM)
i owned a psp... so for SWATwolf.. ur problem is not that major... u need more power get extra batt pack.. there got sell bigger power bank in the market, as for loading time, i think its not that long if u know how to make it short... hahaha i assume u have original copy of ur UMD, so what u can do is make a iso copy of ur umd.. load it in ur mem stick then walla.. done.. but for this to happen u need to have the nifty OE firmware and big mspd.. 2gb  can say ok la.. but another problem is all this = to more cash.. haha

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ok, so now psp is for those who prefer indoor+has more time for games+loaded with cash?? shakehead.gif

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another question, its abt firmware.
for psp, dont we have a specific firmware tt can do every damn thing?? or we need to upgrade/downgrade everytime we wana try something new??
for ndsl, do we have problem with firmware??


yday read on paper that the new psp (on sales in Japan in Sept) can actually watch TV prog (of coz, with an additional device lar). so its getting clear that Sony is positioning psp as a multimedia entertainment machine, rather than a pure gamming machine.

so perhaps the question that lies within the potential handheld buyer (like myself) is: u want a multi function entertainment machine, or u just want a cool solid gamming machine?



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post Jul 26 2007, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(RaymondT @ Jul 26 2007, 11:32 AM)
For me, I LOVE my PSP.....and that's it. How about games? Well I like to play RPG....like Chrono Cross and FF Series but it seems lacking in PSP. The only game I enjoy on my PSP is Valkyrie Profile. I tried games like NFS and MGS but it's not that enjoyable for me. So in the end I started playing PSOne titles on my PSP. For me it all boils down to preference of games. I have nothing against PSP.....like I mentioned I love my PSP, that is until last 2 month someone stole my beloved PSP from me and I just bought a NDSL....well actually my wife bought it for me actually. The PSP stolen incident is partly her fault and she feel guilty about it. She asked me if I wanted a PSP again and I told her maybe not.....after doing my research on games available for both platform, I found out...hey maybe NDSL is better for me as it has FF III and FFXII is coming out and who doesn't love Mario.

So now it's NDSL for me but I WILL buy a PSP too as FF is coming out. Thats it for me.
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need your opinion, which one would your wife pinjam from u to play? psp or ndsl?
thx.
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post Jul 26 2007, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(RaymondT @ Jul 26 2007, 01:53 PM)
PSP for Bomberman and Virtua Tennis and NDSL not yet coz haven't buy any games yet  blush.gif . Just got it this week. But I feel she would like the NDSL better. She's a Mario fan and also she complained before that there's no games for her to play on the PSP before even I have a whole loads of games with me.  biggrin.gif
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thx fot sharing....
im thinking of buy a handheld that both me and my wife can share share to play....i guess ndsl is the one then! nod.gif
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post Jul 31 2007, 07:47 PM

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finally got my NDSL!!
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