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 Handheld War: PSP vs. NDS

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post Jul 23 2007, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 23 2007, 01:48 PM)
That is sort of true. Various reasons, continuous steaming from UMD, brightness of screen..

But the new redesigned PSP seems to address those issues. Faster load times(games/softwares), and longer battery life, reportedly lasts longer than the current Nintendo DS Lite.
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If i'm not mistaken the upcoming PSP 2 will comes with a slimmer battery with 1200mH power rating, lower than the previous one with 1800 rating. Hence basically the battery duration will basicall be the same. However using the older battery, albeit with a new battery cover due to different battery size will expand the battery duration up to 10 hours.
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 23 2007, 01:48 PM)
But the new redesigned PSP seems to address those issues. Faster load times(games/softwares), and longer battery life, reportedly lasts longer than the current Nintendo DS Lite.
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really? blink.gif
any psp owner here can help us verify this, pls??
thx...
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post Jul 23 2007, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(zito9 @ Jul 23 2007, 05:46 PM)
really? blink.gif
any psp owner here can help us verify this, pls??
thx...
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PSP Slim haven't come out, how to verify. laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 07:09 PM

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I spend more time playing games on my psp than ndsl. I think it depends on which genre games you like to play. I prefer playing football, fighting, and some racing games on psp than ndsl. Why? cuz the graphics are SUPERIOR! laugh.gif

ndsl is more for those who like platform games like mario,RPGs, etc.
the stylus is fun tho, great for games like EBA, Trauma Center.

kinda regretting buy a NDSL, but im still gonna keep it. gonna test out those new games coming (dragon quest, zelda...)

BTW, currently imma playin tales of the world on my psp (superb 3D graphics) tongue.gif

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post Jul 24 2007, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jul 23 2007, 06:02 PM)
PSP Slim haven't come out, how to verify.  laugh.gif
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haha...okok...tot its out oredi, coz shops r offering attractive packages for current psp, which i tot was "stock clearing" strategy... tongue.gif

anyway, anybody here can comment on the "fragility" of the 2 handhelds? which one requires more "care" while using?

thx.
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QUOTE(zito9 @ Jul 24 2007, 12:10 PM)
haha...okok...tot its out oredi, coz shops r offering attractive packages for current psp, which i tot was "stock clearing" strategy... tongue.gif

anyway, anybody here can comment on the "fragility" of the 2 handhelds? which one requires more "care" while using?

thx.
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my psp fell from a 1.5(give or take) meter table,brought down by my dog no less,she wrestled with it,chewed out the mspd,tore apart the mspd cover,scratched the umd drive cover,(probably)ate my analog nub,ruined the top left part of my screen protector

but the unit is still working fantastically well thumbup.gif
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post Jul 24 2007, 01:01 PM

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I love my silver PSP & my "PIRATES!" game. wub.gif
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post Jul 24 2007, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jul 24 2007, 12:59 PM)
my psp fell from a 1.5(give or take) meter table,brought down by my dog no less,she wrestled with it,chewed out the mspd,tore apart the mspd cover,scratched the umd drive cover,(probably)ate my analog nub,ruined the top left part of my screen protector

but the unit is still working fantastically well thumbup.gif
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wow~ geng! notworthy.gif
mind showing us a pic of ur psp? keke....

ndsl owners, any comment on ur ndsl's durability? brows.gif


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post Jul 24 2007, 02:04 PM

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My Nintendo DS(old one) is still good. Has not been dropped before, but I've pretty much chucked/dumped my pouch on the ground, many times as if there was nothing valueble in it.

Still works. I've even read an article about someone dropping their DS into the pooper.. doh.gif And it still works!
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Dropped my lite a couple times, but then again while it was in the Airform pouch. No problems till now. Love the bloody thing.
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post Jul 24 2007, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 02:04 PM)
My Nintendo DS(old one) is still good. Has not been dropped before, but I've pretty much chucked/dumped my pouch on the ground, many times as if there was nothing valueble in it.

Still works. I've even read an article about someone dropping their DS into the pooper.. doh.gif And it still works!
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airfoam pouch too?? then i shld get one when i get my ndsl....

anyway, back to the battery issue, so as at current state, ndsl's battery can last longer than psp (on per fully-charged basis), is that correct?
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post Jul 24 2007, 03:57 PM

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Well, that is true.. As a testimony to two(2) joint gatherings, the PSP and NDS fiesta, the folks who brought PSPs ran out of juice in a matter of hours, say 3-4? (think of constant wifi usage) Where else the NDS crew was still happily playing.

The NDSL is very good at power conservation. Set volume to lowest/none, screen brightness to lowest, the red battery can tahan up to 30 mins- 1 hour laugh.gif

Again, with the new redesign(PSP), I hope to see a change. Rather than them having to lug around the charger, and look for a socket.
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post Jul 24 2007, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 03:57 PM)
Well, that is true.. As a testimony to two(2) joint gatherings, the PSP and NDS fiesta, the folks who brought PSPs ran out of juice in a matter of hours, say 3-4? (think of constant wifi usage) Where else the NDS crew was still happily playing.

The NDSL is very good at power conservation. Set volume to lowest/none, screen brightness to lowest, the red battery can tahan up to 30 mins- 1 hour laugh.gif

Again, with the new redesign(PSP), I hope to see a change. Rather than them having to lug around the charger, and look for a socket.
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awesome!!
having to "lug around the charger, and look for a socket" is definately potong stim lar...
another point added to ndsl.

there is also a saying that psp is more for guys, and ndsl is more for girls (in general).
any comments?

(in actual fact, i saw many guys playing with ndsl, but selsome see girls play psp wor...mmm...)
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post Jul 24 2007, 04:40 PM

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Well, can't say much about guys/girls loving NDSL. But from collected data in Europe, seems that more NDS owners are girls laugh.gif This is because of the Nintendogs craze early in the NDS's life. Really ramped up sales.
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As for which demograph plays more handheld, I'd say M'sia itself isn't very open to "gadgets" like these(yet).. I still see kids with Gameboy Advances, and you know the word "Gameboy" will be immediately associated with "kiddy/for kids". Dunno if that explains why the elderly frowns upon handheld gamers.
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And up to today, people still think DS/Nintendo is the shitz. Especially if they see a NDS phat now. Had a friend who commented on my DS and said, "wtf is this crap".. Only to see him selling off his PSP 2 months ago to get a NDSL yawn.gif
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post Jul 24 2007, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 24 2007, 04:40 PM)
And up to today, people still think DS/Nintendo is the shitz. Especially if they see a NDS phat now. Had a friend who commented on my DS and said, "wtf is this crap".. Only to see him selling off his PSP 2 months ago to get a NDSL yawn.gif
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haha...no wonder i see many trading has taken place in LYN for used psp, but seldom see any for ndsl.... brows.gif

lets talk about the games for the 2 consoles.
1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?
2. ndsl's games are famous for the gameplay. can someone give us some actual examples on how nsdl's gameplay outperform psp's? (yeah, we know abt the stylus and the mic, but pls tell us precisely on how these can improve the gameplay)

thx in advance for any comments. notworthy.gif
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anybody have link that compare/review these 2 platform in terms of hardware and games lineup?

thanks
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QUOTE(zito9 @ Jul 24 2007, 05:28 PM)
haha...no wonder i see many trading has taken place in LYN for used psp, but seldom see any for ndsl.... brows.gif

lets talk about the games for the 2 consoles.
1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?
2. ndsl's games are famous for the gameplay. can someone give us some actual examples on how nsdl's gameplay outperform psp's? (yeah, we know abt the stylus and the mic, but pls tell us precisely on how these can improve the gameplay)

thx in advance for any comments.  notworthy.gif
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I don't know about the first sentence, but as I said earlier on in this thread:
QUOTE(sihumchai @ Jul 20 2007, 10:21 PM)
@ zito: Maybe those people aren't having fun with their PSPs. Having to update/downgrade their firmwares all the time(??). The delicate-ness of the handheld itself. Maybe using it as a media plater ain't such a great idea at all(if you don't use GREAT quality vids). (please don't rebut this paragraph, see below)

I'd really like to know why PSPs owners are still PSP owners. Maybe someone will enlighten us. I know it plays game, media, does homebrew, but what makes the PSP stand out?
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We don't have the exact answer, maybe because bored? hmm.gif (thus explaining lack of.. um.. *awesome* games) ..
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But back to your comments:
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1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?

Firstly, the PSP does have some memorable games, not that I know of, but I can name Lumines and Killzone. But hey, they got Parappa the Rapper!

And secondly, that's a DAMN GOOD question. Never seen before.

But I seriously can't give a yes/no answer at the moment. Because the arguement of console vs. handheld, and PSP being 'just like' PS2(a home console) confuses me much.

But in my opinion, I'd say yes. The PSP does what the PS2 does, and more. Plus, it's a portable.

Simple, if you were to choose between these two Ninty product, which would you choose?

A Nintendo 64? Or a Nintendo DS? (DS is just as, or even more powerful than N64)

Quite clear nod.gif

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2. ndsl's games are famous for the gameplay. can someone give us some actual examples on how nsdl's gameplay outperform psp's? (yeah, we know abt the stylus and the mic, but pls tell us precisely on how these can improve the gameplay)


One good example would be Metroid Prime Hunters, a first-person-shooter. With the touch-screen, aided with the stylus or the thumbstrap, the touch-screen aims works just like a mouse. Well, not many people would believe that, but it really does work. Metroid Prime Hunters just felt like Quake 1 on a DS.

How about other games you say, I'm trying to think of something 'new'.. but this game was rather old, Kirby's Paint Brush or something like that.. It's a simple 2-d sidescroller, Kirby had arms and legs, but in this particular game, his arms/legs were erased doh.gif So basicly, you've got this magical paintbrush(stylus) to help him move around. Simply tapping Kirby will make him dash(he moves on his own), but if there's a pit infront of him you can draw a bridge for him to cross. You can even draw a shield for him, for temporary protection. But these paints wears off after time, so.. strategy abit la biggrin.gif

Just a few good uses and implementations of DS games, something the PSP cannot achieve.

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thx in advance for any comments.  notworthy.gif
You're welcome. I enjoy these discussions.
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since the new psp will be release... will the old psp price drop?
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QUOTE(zito9 @ Jul 24 2007, 05:28 PM)
haha...no wonder i see many trading has taken place in LYN for used psp, but seldom see any for ndsl.... brows.gif

lets talk about the games for the 2 consoles.
1. many commented that psp has no memorable games, coz most of them are adapted from ps2.
well, in that case, if for someone that has no ps2, is psp still a good choice then?
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since getting the psp,i have never even touched my ps2 sweat.gif
well,i stopped playing it since before FF12 came out..the PSP only condemned it to dust collector status even more sweat.gif

QUOTE(riku2replica @ Jul 24 2007, 09:17 PM)
since the new psp will be release... will the old psp price drop?
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it should.
but if the new PSPs dont get their own custom firmware,the old psp's price will go up.(most probably)
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I dunno bout this but its my own experience

For PSP, I never got the chance to play outside, basically 1 of the prob is the battery long lasting. 2ndly, the loading time takes forever (1. load the UMD > enter PSP screen > Game loading > Menu > Load saved file > Loading > Game starts) These loading will ruin my time while waiting and I only can enjoy for a bit. 3rdly, its really hard to see the PSP's screen when u r under the sunlight, possibly u can see it at all! 4thly, good thing bout psp is some of the game like music genre games are suitable for psp, while fighting games are poorly done on psp, especially tekken and street fighter, I have prob fighting probably like wad we do on ps2 or arcade and my hand gets tired after holding the psp for a while.

For NDS, the loading speed is alot faster than psp. you could say most of the game does not need loading at all. Thats why playing ds with little waiting time can let u go furthur gaming. the screen is visible even its under the sunlight, though it hard to see. you cant say nintendo games are for kids, nintendo games are for those who don play games and those who wanna play a quick game, friendly games and fun games. The thing bout ds lite is that the surface is easily printed smudge on it and it can be scratch easily if not careful.

So then, I like psp, but i prefer ndsl

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