Lol man if you migrate to aussie and can't speak English you will be deported

If you seek asylum also must learn the country national language before they can accept you as one of them

This is fact

That is for immigrants. For blue IC holders like me, I applied for my kid's birthcert at 2 weeks old and it already says Malaysian. No language proficiency test was required.

Thank you for standing up for me. I don’t know how advocating national language is considered extremist. But coming from extremist in my ignore list, I don’t have to think much. Extremist have tunnel vision, you can’t have a proper debate/discussion with an extremist.

This is what i am trying to advocate.

Was that him? I think it was someone else because i did report that post

Like i said, i expect malaysian to be able to speak BM.

And i did try to learn cantonese from TV, but halfway through, they dubbed all hong kong drama into mandarin. So being a malay and muslim i was easily confused and drop my intention to learn cantonese altogether.

Glad i did not learn anyway, my ex boss who was a kelantanese said people in kelantan speak hokkien, that’s why he speak english with other cina here.

yes.

Article 160 (“Interpretation”) of the Federal Constitution defines the term “Malay” in the following manner:

“Malay” means a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, conforms to Malay custom.

If I migrate and I get in legally. No not speaking English won't suddenly get me deported la.

Here's my point exactly. Chinese are not immigrants or some group of people that is at Malay people mercy for their citizenship.

That was him la. We don't purposely say that. Normally we don't racist. We know our place in Malaysia. You think we are stupid meh.

IINM it was big balls johnson.

Yes, Malaysians should be able to speak bm, I agree with you. But is it a serious crime if some of them don't? Like I said earlier:

I can speak English, Malay and Hokkien fluently. I also speak Thai and Vietnamese well enough to get by. Is that ok for you?

Why are you comparing tax cheats and other non related issues to the ability to speak BM? It’s totally unrelated. You might as well say because some people murder therefore it’s ok for me to rape. It’s completely illogical.

Being able to speak BM makes us Malaysian. Other things matter as well but this thread is about BM. No need to go off topic.

Ya, just realized the tatabahasa there is tidak tepat

I try to bersembang and berborak with as many Malays as I can in bahasa kebangsaan whenever I am back in KL.

Unfortunately, sering dijawab balik dalam bahasa penjajah...

Macam ini, its a no wonder my tahap BM merosot dan mengarat secara mendadak! Especially after I went overseas to study / work.

Which is a shame, because I used to be able to even mengarang surat rasmi kepada jabatan kerajaan back in my legal days

My vokabulari has gone down. My tatabahasa has masuk tong sampah. So many aspects telah dibuang ke dalam longkang. The lack of good BM books to read, good BM forums to browse, good BM newspapers to read, nice BM movies and documentaries to watch is not helping things.

Yeah, I know. I was just joking about his example of pandangan and its various iterations.

You are always welcome. I don't stereotype anyone or group. I only say based on my observation and experience. If you read back my comments from the beginning I say some of Chinese people I met are really good at BM and it make feel ease

But some of them who can't speak it all make me worried. I never said all Chinese can't speak. You start to point me saying I'm racing when I say all Indian will probably pass the test. That also from my observation, almost all Indian I met can speak BM in conversation that I think they can answer the question in the interview. Forget the stereotype and make your own observation. From there you can form your own opinion

Don't mind him. He's an extremist himself and ignored a lot of people who don't align with his extremist view kek

I'm just showing you the stupidity of such "if you don't know bm you are not patriotic and don't deserve to be called malaysian" mindset.

Hence my question, who is more Malaysian- A person who doesn't speak bm but put in honest work and pays his taxes and lived honestly compared to another whose bm so power until can bersajak berpuisi but steals, robs, kill and cheat? Who is more deserving to be called Malaysian here?

I try not to stereotype if possible, but the way that big-balls chap posted his stuff did set off a trigger or two in me.

Plus the Malaysian political scene, all the R&R hyping, and all the nonsense I read on Facebook does not help improve my mindset.

Also, on the internet, you can put on an internet persona. In real life, who knows... maybe it is the real person that comes out, not the other way round.....

pundek la aku pun fasih Melayu. so? dpt what?

Typical extremist dupes everywhere.

Asyik jaga tepi kain orang, why not care your own business?

Can you just stay ignored?

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Yes it come from big balls and henced the support

I thought you told me you aren't gonna reply to me and ignore me? Just stay that way. Keep thinking that way and one day you will get what you want.

Of course she is baby. Then when she grows older and can't speak BM then it's not fine.

Yes that's correct and I agree with your point and that one

Let me put all this national language into another perspective.

Ok, so we all know the Bunga Raya is our national flower.
So, 70years old AhChong has been planting chrysanthemum flower since forever, he don't know got to plant Bunga Raya, never feels there's a need to and just get by everyday until now. 25years old AhMeng plant rose since he was born, same like AhChong hes happy and live just fine.

Suddenly wtf, this whole group of people come in and demand AhChong and AhMeng to plant Bunga Raya, you no plant Bunga Raya you disrespect country please remove citizenship, please get the fuck off Malaysia.

AhChong times from times will start to plant Bunga Raya, out of necessity to mingle with those who plant Bunga Raya but because he never plant so those baby Bunga Raya always die, and oh my god all this Bunga Raya enthusiast cannot accept how someone live in Malaysia can Donny how plant Bunga Raya.

Lol. You see how crazy all this is?