Boleh buat test berapa melayu tau cakap bahasa cina/india? No? Asal bahasa yg di label "kebangsaan" cukup, yang lain takyah tau? Malaysia multicultural, multiracial, multireligious nation bukan ke?

As usual, everyone of you missed the point. You demand & insult the other races for not knowing bahasa kebangsaan. But have you, as a malaysian, learn other languages yourself? Or are you going to hide your ignorance behind the label "kebangsaan"/"national" and only demand of 1 side while conveninently overlooking yourself?

And the local language here in malaysia is bahasa melayu, cina dan tamil (ofc you can argue there are many languages in malaysia, but lets just stick with the majority 3 shall we). What other languages you know beside your own mother tongue, which happened to be bahasa kebangsaan? Oh no need, imma just gonna hide behind the "kebangsaan "/"national" label yipeee, no need to learn anything else and throw cheap shot at those who dunno bahasa, calling them don't deserve to be called malaysian, yay???

Coz malaysia is a multicultural multiracial multireligious nation. It is not monoracial monocultural like china, japan, korea etc. My question is simple, have you learned other languages to fit in as a citizen of a multicultural multiracial society? Or are you going to refuse to learn and just hide behind the label "kebangsaan"/"national"?

Then good for you. I'm a chinese who knows English, Malay, Cantonese, Mandarin (not so good but passable)

I'm proud to be Malaysian as well and also able to speak Bahasa Kebangsaan. Problem here is since when did this "you dunno national language you dun deserve to be called malaysian" started? Please tell me, who is more Malaysian- A person who doesn't speak bm but put in honest work and pays his taxes and lived honestly compared to another whose bm so power until can bersajak berpuisi but steals, robs, kill and cheat? Who is more deserving to be called Malaysian here?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jan 19 2020, 05:51 PM

Unfortunately no, I didn't have the opportunity to learn tamil. But its kinda cool if I can know tamil.

Whichever bahasa cina that you can speak to the cina guy. Can be cantonese, hokkien, teochow, mandarin. Your point is?

You are still not getting the point. What other languages have YOU learned beside hiding behind the label "kebangsaan"/"national"? And you call yourself Malaysian, living in a multicultural multiracial multireligious society?

This here is the problem. You expect others to know and learn your language to be able to communicate with you. But you do not want to learn and know their language to communicate with them if they don't know yours. And rather than acknowledging that, you use the label "kebangsaan"/"national" as though only 1 language can be allowed to be used here in Malaysia.

same as what I replied above

Again, hiding behind the label "kebangsaan"/"National" as an excuse not to learn other languages to be able to communicate with the other party if he don't know yours.

It is important to know the national language. I do not deny that. Heck, we should be proud of our own national language. Make no mistake about that.

Problem now is, how the heck did this "you dunno national language you are not patriotic and dun deserve to be called malaysian" started? Please tell me, who is more Malaysian- A person who doesn't speak bm but put in honest work and pays his taxes and lived honestly compared to another whose bm so power until can bersajak berpuisi but steals, robs, kill and cheat? Who is more deserving to be called Malaysian here?

And hence my question back at them - what other languages have YOU learned beside hiding behind the label "kebangsaan"/"national"? And you call yourself Malaysian, living in a multicultural multiracial multireligious society?

You know arab, hangukeyo, deutsch, good for you. You have my respect for such knowledge, truly. But again, why not mandarin/cantonese/hokkien/etc or tamil to be able to speak with your brethren if they dunno how to speak yours? Because its a 1 way street, they must know bahasa "kebangsaan" to communicate with you and no need you know their language? And call them not patriotic/not deserving to be called Malaysians so they must learn and you no need to learn yourself?

That is for immigrants. For blue IC holders like me, I applied for my kid's birthcert at 2 weeks old and it already says Malaysian. No language proficiency test was required.

Yes, Malaysians should be able to speak bm, I agree with you. But is it a serious crime if some of them don't? Like I said earlier:

I'm just showing you the stupidity of such "if you don't know bm you are not patriotic and don't deserve to be called malaysian" mindset.

Hence my question, who is more Malaysian- A person who doesn't speak bm but put in honest work and pays his taxes and lived honestly compared to another whose bm so power until can bersajak berpuisi but steals, robs, kill and cheat? Who is more deserving to be called Malaysian here?

But still Malaysian citizen

As per what I wrote earlier replying to another forumer:

Again, like I said earlier:

Correct, I agree with you.

So why must it be 1 way street? You expect others to know and learn your language to be able to communicate with you. But you do not want to learn and know their language to communicate with them if they don't know yours. And rather than acknowledging that, you hide behind the label "kebangsaan"/"National" as an excuse not to learn other languages to be able to communicate with the other party if he don't know yours?

Malaysia is a multicultural multiracial multireligious nation. It is not monoracial monocultural like tongsan nihonjin britain or france. Deal with it

And read my reply at 201, which he replied at 208 and answered by me in 210.