Options:

Keep quiet
Run to other country
Kena hang

Which 1 u think they will pick

Hmmmmmmmmm

Kek

Jangan persoal.
Oh wait! This one okay to persoal I think.
Lol!

This post has been edited by Ewww!: Jan 16 2020, 11:32 PM

Is ok. We all going to hell anyway.

So are there any Malays who are known apostates (and still living in Malaysia)?

Ramai je la atheist Melayu kat mesia ni. Tak pelik langsung. Cuma ada sesetengah yang sibuk kutuk former religion diorang because idk why either mungkin tak tenang eventho dah keluar kek

Unfortunately, those zealots are far far louder with their kutukan because of their holier-than-thou attitude, and the atheist ones dare not respond. End up nons kena tempias because they support freedom to choose.

???

The atheists one are the louder bunch tbh
Even kutuk everything that has to do with religion eventho it's not related with people who hurted them
Honestly stop pick sides and hating too much its bad for your mental health

Hmm true also. This problem arises when eg parents divorced, the child followed the parent that was a convert but never practiced. They may revent to former religion, but the other parent that is a muslim may then claim and complicate matters.

Or when someone dies, maybe first buried non-islamic way, but then islamic authorities wanna claim the body and bury the islamic way.

Complex issue.

When do atheist muslims ever speak up against the zealots?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia...s-idUSKBN1AN18T

Though not sure if they just keep quiet kah or publicly renounced.

They did. Also, atheist malays* or ex-muslim atheists*
Tbh I'm not one or them, and we already have issues within ourselves.

Based of sharia law..

keluar islam = hukum mati

Quite scary. Especially if takes just one parent to register their children like indira case.

Tak nak join ke?
Yang buat statement tu orang islam

Ayoh kita berpesta

From Wikipedia.


Lina Joy is a Malay convert from Islam to Christianity. Born Azlina Jailani on 28 July 1964[1] in Malaysia to Muslim parents of Javanese descent,[2] she converted at age 26. The Lina Joy case sparkled a debate about apostasy in Malaysia,[3] and her failed legal attempt to not have her religion assigned as "Islam" on her identity card is considered a landmark case in Malaysia.[4]

Court case
In 1998, Joy was baptised, and applied to have her conversion legally recognised by the Malaysian courts. Though her change of name was recognised in 1999 and so noted on her identity card, her change of religion was not (for lack of a Mahkamah Syariah[5] confirmation document); for this reason, she filed suit with the High Court in 1999, bypassing the Syariah Court (Islamic court). She later filed suit with the Federal Court in 2006.[6][7] Joy hopes to live openly as a Christian; she was forced to go into hiding by the publicity surrounding her case.[8]

In a majority verdict delivered on 30 May 2007, the Federal Court rejected her appeal.[9] Her appeal was dismissed 2-1 by Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim and Datuk Alauddin Mohd Sheriff. The ruling stated that "a person who wanted to renounce his/her religion must do so according to existing laws or practices of the particular religion. Only after the person has complied with the requirements and the authorities are satisfied that the person has apostatised, can she embrace Christianity.... In other words, a person cannot, at one's whims and fancies renounce or embrace a religion."[10]

The dissenting Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Datuk Richard Malanjum wrote that "Hence, in my view this is tantamount to unequal treatment under the law. In other words it is discriminatory and unconstitutional and should therefore be struck down. For this reason alone, the relief sought for by the appellant should be granted, namely for a declaration that she is entitled to have an identity card in which the word 'Islam' does not appear."



Interesting case.

So she is now a practising Christian but with the word "Islam" on her Malaysian IC.

2.6b is not a sin?

this is good

What about converting from other religion like Buddhism or Hinduism to Islam?

Need to apply from Syariah Court and Civil Court?

Malas lah.

No need, as its a very easy & straight forward process.