QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 23 2020, 08:15 PM)
I just added the investment fund today, am I entitle?This post has been edited by datolee32: Jun 23 2020, 10:15 PM
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Jun 23 2020, 10:14 PM
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Jun 23 2020, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(datolee32 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:14 PM) it doesn't really matter entitle or not, it's still the same NAV except lower down NAV and pay u distribution or add into your unitsfor ur case, they will follow today NAV and buy according to how much units you gonna get eg 22/6 NAV = RM1.761 if no change 23/6 NAV = RM1.751 + RM0.01 distribution u will get 1005.71102 units rather than 1000 units based on RM1.751, not RM1.761 |
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Jun 23 2020, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 23 2020, 10:15 PM) If your transaction made before 4pm today, you should be entitled for it since the ex-distribution date is 24/6/2020 QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jun 23 2020, 10:21 PM) it doesn't really matter entitle or not, it's still the same NAV except lower down NAV and pay u distribution or add into your units Ok, thanks for explanation. By lowering down the fund price through distribution, i think there's more higher potential gap for the price to go up, instead of fluctuating at high price. Please correct me if i am wrong.for ur case, they will follow today NAV and buy according to how much units you gonna get eg 22/6 NAV = RM1.761 if no change 23/6 NAV = RM1.751 + RM0.01 distribution u will get 1005.71102 units rather than 1000 units based on RM1.751, not RM1.761 |
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Jun 23 2020, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(datolee32 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:35 PM) Ok, thanks for explanation. By lowering down the fund price through distribution, i think there's more higher potential gap for the price to go up, instead of fluctuating at high price. Please correct me if i am wrong. It's a bond fund.You won't have very exciting story with it. datolee32 liked this post
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Jun 24 2020, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(datolee32 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:35 PM) Ok, thanks for explanation. By lowering down the fund price through distribution, i think there's more higher potential gap for the price to go up, instead of fluctuating at high price. Please correct me if i am wrong. By giving distribution is an exercise to 1. Lower down the fund price. 2. To distribute income for big investors who want a consistent payout. The lower price is just a misconception from people that lower price means more worth it to enter. Unit trust shouldn't be the case, as the return especially for Fixed income fund is consistent and stable, so the return is steady. For example, RM 1.0000 price if up by 1% = RM 1.0100 RM 2.0000 price if up by 1% = RM 2.0200 it is still 1%. if you buy in at RM1 with RM 1000 means you will have 1000 units. if buy in at RM2, you will have 500 units. If the fund return goes up by 1%, regardless of what, your money value will also be up by 1% to 1010. 1000 units * RM 1.0100 = RM 1010 500 units * RM 2.0200 = RM 1010 Hope this explain well to you. |
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Jun 24 2020, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(datolee32 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:35 PM) Ok, thanks for explanation. By lowering down the fund price through distribution, i think there's more higher potential gap for the price to go up, instead of fluctuating at high price. Please correct me if i am wrong. for UT it is all about NAV....get the correct definition right and then i hope that can helps to shed some light to your conception/misconception.. |
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Jun 24 2020, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 24 2020, 09:04 AM) By giving distribution is an exercise to 1. Lower down the fund price. 2. To distribute income for big investors who want a consistent payout. The lower price is just a misconception from people that lower price means more worth it to enter. Unit trust shouldn't be the case, as the return especially for Fixed income fund is consistent and stable, so the return is steady. For example, RM 1.0000 price if up by 1% = RM 1.0100 RM 2.0000 price if up by 1% = RM 2.0200 it is still 1%. if you buy in at RM1 with RM 1000 means you will have 1000 units. if buy in at RM2, you will have 500 units. If the fund return goes up by 1%, regardless of what, your money value will also be up by 1% to 1010. 1000 units * RM 1.0100 = RM 1010 500 units * RM 2.0200 = RM 1010 Hope this explain well to you. QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 24 2020, 09:10 AM) for UT it is all about NAV.... Thank you for all the valuable sharing, now I am more understanding about it.get the correct definition right and then i hope that can helps to shed some light to your conception/misconception.. |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 01:34 PM
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Jun 24 2020, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jun 23 2020, 10:21 PM) it doesn't really matter entitle or not, it's still the same NAV except lower down NAV and pay u distribution or add into your units Are you sure?for ur case, they will follow today NAV and buy according to how much units you gonna get eg 22/6 NAV = RM1.761 if no change 23/6 NAV = RM1.751 + RM0.01 distribution u will get 1005.71102 units rather than 1000 units based on RM1.751, not RM1.761 How about tax? No need pay tax? |
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Jun 24 2020, 01:47 PM
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Jun 24 2020, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 24 2020, 01:47 PM) No need. Yes, that is its already been taxed only give back to investor so that investor will not be tax again.Distribution received is nett distribution after tax under single tier taxation. Capital gain is not taxable under personal income tax. At the end of the day it its been taxed. akatsukea liked this post
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Jun 24 2020, 02:07 PM
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Jun 24 2020, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jun 24 2020, 02:05 PM) Yes, that is its already been taxed only give back to investor so that investor will not be tax again. For Opus Funds seem to be tax exempted, i received the past distribution tax voucher, there is no tax amount at the Malaysian Tax or Foreign tax column.At the end of the day it its been taxed. Other type of funds may be will have tax, but I think tax is still subject to those tax expert to explain, different people different tax treatment and bracket. |
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Jun 24 2020, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jun 24 2020, 02:05 PM) Yes, that is its already been taxed only give back to investor so that investor will not be tax again. no. no tax on bond in malaysia.At the end of the day it its been taxed. http://rmbond.bnm.gov.my/portal/server.pt/...n%20Malaysia%20. |
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IPF: 1.0663 (distribution of 1 cents per unit) SIPF: 1.0220 (could be due to distribution) This post has been edited by GrumpyNooby: Jun 25 2020, 09:12 AM |
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Jun 25 2020, 10:38 AM
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Jun 25 2020, 01:28 PM
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Why MPF is not yet declare dividen?
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