PUTRAJAYA: Sekolah akan dibekalkan dengan senarai pekerjaan yang dikategorikan berisiko pada masa depan sebagai rujukan pelajar untuk memilih jurusan di institusi pendidikan tinggi, kata Menteri Sumber Manusia M Kula Segaran.

Beliau berkata ia akan membantu pelajar mengelak memilih bidang pengajian yang tidak mempunyai masa depan atau sedia berdepan risiko tidak memiliki pekerjaan selepas menamatkan pengajian.

“Saya telah bercakap dengan lebih 400 guru dan majoriti mereka keliru tentang realiti semasa berkenaan bidang pekerjaan yang mungkin tidak lagi relevan atau wujud dalam tempoh tiga atau lima tahun akan datang.

“Sebab itu kementerian bersedia dengan senarai pekerjaan yang dikategorikan kritikal pada masa depan untuk diedarkan kepada semua sekolah selewat-lewatnya akhir Disember ini,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas Majlis Anugerah Tangan Emas Perdana Menteri 2019, semalam.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...dar-ke-sekolah/

Isokei. The majority of freshies will end up in sales related roles anyway

TVET courses are up for grab for the ones who really wanted..but...apa bole buat...ada degree mana mau kerja low keras skilled jobs.

and yet they bringing in gojek.

payphone technician is a job that is extinct within my lifetime.

end up being instafamous or youtuber lel

Just go for politician route. Can get rich quickly by getting creative on project money and endorsement.

Apa la teruk sgt... Should ask student do business.. Not makan gaji maa

it depends on the person interests as well

Become cybertrooper ,spread toxic and get pay 5 figure

KFC and MCD cashier will be replaced by ordering kiosks.

There was a time where computer science is the shitty one
the course lelong one
then mobile revolution happens.......

nobody can say anything for certain.

This feels so wrong

Still shitty

They maybe get replaced but for sure they will increase kitchen staffs.

Whatever it is, people still needs food and F&B field will always stay relevant. Other field or job can be easily replaced such as in banking, and others

U go mcd now adi ordering kiosk

Wow srs ly malaysia? Another brilliant PH idea without tackling the root source of the problem


No wonder we produce ppl who only thinks about money instead of child who have passion in their cita cita

This post has been edited by reed90: Nov 20 2019, 08:36 AM

one of my senior took that way, but he flop and somehow saw my linkedin and tryna get something out of me......... iseewhatyoudid.jpg

Did he has any rich connection or rich parent? That probably the problem.

I know engineering is not there on the list

But it should be

But cashier still got now but they will be fully replaced by ordering kiosks in the coming years.

Politician ohwai

Which engineering? Too big of a scope

doctor, pharmacist and engineering course also cant get work nowdays.

so what u want to say minister?

all this while you living childhood was a lie

jadi admin twitter je la

I think he's from average family, but brought up with this political (or whatever sentiment). So since BN/UMNO also byebye a few years ago, his way to climb up that ladder slightly affected.

He has long time in my linkedin, since I was ikan bilis position & didn't active (and I didn't know how I get those connection back then lol). But when I upgraded the profile, he hello me. I'm like, ????. You know sometimes you just get that weird feeling coming to you like,"what do you want from me"

Any of the physical ones, not computer.

I feel like you're gonna be doing mostly coordinating work even without practical knowledge

If you're interested in technical work, go to practical pr vocational school.

This is good move to bring awareness. I think someone posted a link from TalentCorp previously, with very good details of the list of job gonna be obsolete.

At least KulaSegaran did something useful than Minister Edukasi Kasut Hitam.

takde masa depan. you mean like gojek riders?

What engineering...so many...civil, eletronics, computer, sound dan macam-macam lagi.

Sales pun ada engineer punya.

Adohai another Bodo topkek
No wonder can drink kencing BN for 62years

This is really dumb.

Most of tbose that took those jobs not bcoz they want too, but have to as the limited job market these days.

U are indirectly insulting those people and u are teaching tbose kids to look down on people having those jobs.

Lets even say some of the kids parents do jobs that is listed there, how do u think they will feel? Not only that, maybe get teased by their friends.

PH memang bodoh tahap gaban. I really facepalm

MOHR can give all the list....but MOE will still offer the useless course.

LOL

If nobody doing trash pickup, we will be swimming in trash now. Well, until we able to produce automata anyway.

u la teruk...'do business' also in the list senarai pekerjaan..maybe student interested to register for Business Marketing, entrepreneur etc

Won't be fully replaced, in Singapore there's always 3 ordering kiosk to 1 cashier ratio.

Even gongcha uses ordering kiosk.

As some wise men had said, blowjob is better than no job.

Finally someone share similar idea as mine:

Fixing Unemployment Supply & Demand
22 Oct 2019
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4854746

Well rather kena Bodo or become useless when graduate this you have to decide.

I'd rather kena Bodo now than wasted 1/3 of my life getting education with no market value

This is good

Then they will continue the problem now where grads rather not work when they dont get the jobs they want.

This post has been edited by silent_stalker: Nov 20 2019, 09:00 AM

Actually it is a genius move to pre-planning job matching (demand & supply)

Also it can kill off those degree-mills colleges n PTPTN loans, refer to tered link above

Those Keluarpattern grads will of course suffer waiting for government help

Then they should follow some countries where the schools have career counseling before the kids finish school.

tiada masa depan as in :

a) not needed in the future

or

b) no future because work like a crazy person

?

ironically, job in university also tarak masa depan, unless you are academic staff.

List 404....

times changed, no such things as a job that has no future

back when we're small, our parents and teacher keep saying playing games got no future
look at where we are now?...gamers are millionaire

This is true. I'm quite surprised that non academic staffs received loq pay.

this is dumb

HR is the absolute WORST place to find out what kind of jobs you need in the future

FUCK man wtf is our education system pumping out

basically, if all we do is ask HR for what they need, all we get is we need 20 million interns in the near future

the only way to answer the question what do we need in the future, is to ask the question, what are the key technology/change in workforce IN THE FUTURE

to me, its SUPER DUMB to give out a list of jobs with no future or with a future

what you need to do, is to make sure you have a workforce that is agile and can go from industry to industry, sector to sector, using common sense, law of physics, and critical thinking on top of IT mastery.



This post has been edited by Nachiino Etamay: Nov 20 2019, 09:09 AM

academic staffs also tak ada masa depan because students are more inclined to go MLM university.

Banking would still need human touch. Regulations wont allow automated fully as there is risk.

Problem is most career counseling here just a decoy to trap SPM students into signing PTPTN loans

college CEOs pretend crying bleak future infront of students if they dont continue study n thus they must sign-up the college degree

Then the counseling is not the problem, but how they do it.

So u just wait untill 1-2 million graduates still jobless n figure out why is this happening

Well I want to see the list. Is it really well thought out on job obsoleted or jumping to trend like IR4.0?

Education scam still not a specific crime yet

+1.

govt. ask HR to give out 'future demand'

HR go to hiring managers.

hiring managers syok sendiri plan.

give data to HR.

HR consolidate bogus data.

data given to ministry.

ministry declare we need 100,000 data scientists in 2030.

every parents force their kids to take data analytics, data science, data management, etc.

by 2030 job vacancy 10,000 vs. supply 150,000.

same cycle with engineering, comp science, medic, etc. as before.

Then that is what they should be focusing on. Not wait till it becomes a crime.

no kulasegaran is miles fucking dumber than any minister in PH..lolz..seriously useless minister. maszlee is miles better among shit ministers in PH.

this!! But ministers from dap really sohai liaoo

Even IKEA already moved to self service for card payment

mana senarainya?

The thing that cause all the rubbish is lowering standards.

If you can score data analytics or data science your Add Maths should be top of the cream d.
It's worth that much because it's hard to obtain

Oh yeah? I can't see one single thing Mazlee that is any good. Humour me. Give me just 1 example.

All honest jobs have a role in society. There is no such thing as 'tiada masa depan' job. This is an extremely wrong mindset that leads to marginalization.

Instead students should be taught to have dignity as long as they work hard at their honest jobs and the rest of society should respect them.

There workers can exploit automation to improve efficiency and earn more pay.

Obsolete jobs duh.

I think the worst is actually our Economic Minister and Tourism Minister. Tourism Minister is basically not doing anything at all and next year is visit Malaysia year. Economic Minister is even worst. More interested in politicking and have done nothing at all while all the blame goes to LGE. A lot of the ministers who are constantly in the spotlight are at least doing something.

agreed!

look at engineering grads now - some universities end up creating 'engineering technology' courses
for those with lower qualifications.

lecturers teaching them just for the sake of teaching & KPI to ensure 90% students pass,
else have to answer to the faculty.

these 'engineering' students go out and apply jobs - either not getting any interviews or flunking interviews
because they don't even know what they study in the first place, ask simple fundamental questions also
cannot answer.

those working end up frustrated either because

1. they can't perform in their jobs

2. actually their passion is not engineering but rather MLM

3. salary lower than expectation because employer can offer RM3.5/mth vs. RM5k that they want.

thus resorting them to become food panda rider/grab food rider/grab driver

and afterwards take it to social media saying that they studied mechatronics engineering technology
and now working as food delivery engineer.

adults blame them because they're strawberry generation.

they replied back with 'OK, Boomer'.

Hope can retire before my profession becum dinosaur.

Need to have poll, who's the worst among the worst. LOL.

maszlee is good in being the black sheep.

all other PH ministers fucked up, some are also quite bad but malaysians see only maszlee the black sheep.

baa baa!

There is always job as a Gamer.

i really wonder this minister have thought thoroughly about it. this move will eventually make every fresh grads focus in only limited industries and when we have oversupplied of fresh grads of same industry, then they will become dirt cheap because everyone will be competing for the same job. end of the day, who offers the lowest salary gets the job. is that suppose to be good for the nation?

malaysia from what i see it won't have obsolete jobs
they might wanna replace it with machine
but they refuse to pour money into it

so if they breaks down, who is gonna take charge again?...humans
and when they do breakdown, they will automatically became understaffed

ei..list mana?

truly putting the mindset of gaining knowledge just for a job kek

umur 27 tahun ada lima rumah. pptttuiii!

Allowing easy enrollment into colleges unis with poor English n Maths is the main root cause

Really sad social tragedy, eh ?

Poor English & Maths yet allowed into engineering courses in the name of Kasi chan lar / 2nd chance

If trace back why poor english & maths in school last time, dont be surprised if reason is not afford extra tuition classes

Why tak mampu kelas tuisyen? Miskin? Salah siapa hidup miskin ? Bla bla bla...blame the usual targets...

Shows that you know nothing about engineering lol.
Engineering isn't mainly about technical work.
It's like saying you don't need a chartered architect to draw/design klcc, only need art students to do it.
Engineering also got chartered and professional statuses.

Can explain why you think it's bad?

I think it's a great idea because of two reasons:

1. It introduces the idea of future employment into the schooling period. Now our education system is heavily academic (read:memorizing theory). It is good that student can have early exposure to future working enviroment.

2. It tracks future trends of employment. Some of the reading/teaching materials are outdated. These updated market info can let our students keep up to date with the future trend.

Huh... How so?

Try not to read the news using the sensational phrase "tiada masa depan" by TS and replace with "bidang pekerjaan yang mungkin tidak lagi relevan atau wujud dalam tempoh tiga atau lima tahun akan datang".

Is that really that bad reporting on the future trend of the employment market?
I don't understand your emotion here.

Its a good implementation, but for me it should have NOT been done in school level.

it should have been done in the IPT, or higher education.

You do it in school, our child will think that oh, theres no need to learn science anymore, its useless to become a doctor/those professions anyway

then all become MLM ah bengs, entrepreneur, (not that its a bad thing), but when no kids are interested in taking those courses, its the start of brain drain.


you can introduce new subjects at schools, but doing this will only scare the kids and promote the kids to be dropouts.

This is future yo

Sudik approved

"red bean army" also should be put in the list.. looks like it's gonna extinct as early as next GE.

I have different opinion.

I think it should be done before Form 3.
Because i think it's fair to let 14 or 15 years old to learn about future employment environment.
Also because after Form 3 they will have to select their courses.

The idea is not to introduce "no need to learn certain knowledge".
It is to direct the students' learning focus to more robust skills in the future.

its only tiada masa hadapan if you're shit at it and have generic skills.

lol you know nothing. It's called engineering technology because the job market specifically want these type of graduates. Go learn about malaysian board of technologists before you spout nonsense from your asshole

https://www.mbot.org.my/accreditation/ttas-ttac/

why no future? its a job, which produce something beneficial towards society and economy.

its the gomen that should create the potential, build up platform for these jobs to sustain, not asking students to let go of their dreams, and be like a robot to follow set paths. later those professions will be flooded then still they cant get jobs.

well, everytime the govt tries to manipulate the labour market through primary and secondary education, it ends up in disaster They just don't understand the importance of free market forces

lol ini machiam pun boleh ka. apa punya menteri

yeah

closing opportunities rather than opening it

lepastuh komplen lambakan graduan doing same things

babi laa pikir long term boleh tak?

So many lorrrr

Robot already replaced million of blue collar jobs

Wait for the A.I .. even white collar jobs GG

lawyer
accountant
manager

"Accountants, doctors, lawyers, teachers, bureaucrats, and financial analysts beware: your jobs are not safe. According to The Economist, computers will be able to analyze and compare reams of data to make financial decisions or medical ones. There will be less of a chance of fraud or misdiagnosis, and the process will be more efficient. Not only are these folks in trouble, such a trend is likely to freeze salaries for those who remain employed, while income gaps only increase in size. You can imagine what this will do to politics and social stability."

https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/47-of-job...ford-university
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/lawyers-cou...telligence.html

Like i explained in the othet reply. If thats the case, they should instead follow other countries that do career counseling. They should not just outright tell kids that the jobs will be obsolete in the future. As reasons i have stated, not many people that treat those jobs as their career. They do it bcoz they have no other options.

Even if they say what course to take in uni, most of the times those courses are full.

So to me its nonsense.