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jmas
post Nov 11 2019, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 08:24 PM)
In my opinion, lotus handling in proton is overrated.

Ppl has been talking bout how good proton cars handling is.

The fact is that, I own a 1st gen persona, drove it for 6 years.

lately I started driving vios 2nd gen, drove it at sub urban kampung roads, speed maintain bout 90-100km/h,

I do not feel that much of a difference between the handling of both.

It might be that I do corners at speed of 60-80kmh depends on the angulation of the corners, is it consider slow? Both car handles quite well for me.

In terms of pricing, a vios high spec is almost double the price of a persona,

The vios is a much refined car
-the engine is powerful and reliable
-transmission does not gv much problems too
-the interior is much refined compared to protons
-the steering feel is pretty good

In general, persona isnt that bad either, for almost half of the price of a vios. Its also reliable, it just lack that refinement,
-fuel hungry and less powerful campro but reliable
-4at is also a reliable transmission.
-IAFM will gv prob after driving 100-200k
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Gen1 Persona launch 1993, Gen2 Vios launch 2002...
and you take this 2 to compare...

Moreover, Proton bought Lotus back in 1996, so I am 99% sure Lotus not involved in tuning Gen1 Persona AT ALL.
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post Nov 11 2019, 10:46 PM

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post Nov 11 2019, 10:47 PM

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Vios engine not powerful at all
Acceleration suckss
Alot of random rattling noise, komplen to sc for 2yrs plus still kenot fix
Fk toyota

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post Nov 11 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(ChowX2 @ Nov 11 2019, 10:47 PM)
Vios engine not powerful at all
Acceleration suckss
Alot of random rattling noise, komplen to sc for 2yrs plus still kenot fix
Fk toyota
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bro Im sure u havent drove a car with campro engine before lol. Then u will know what is no power.


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post Nov 11 2019, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 11:49 PM)
bro Im sure u havent drove a car with campro engine before lol. Then u will know what is no power.
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Yeh I drove before preve non turbo & saga fl
Le vios still slightly better than them but can't compare to the og godcar

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post Nov 11 2019, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(ChowX2 @ Nov 11 2019, 10:47 PM)
Vios engine not powerful at all
Acceleration suckss
Alot of random rattling noise, komplen to sc for 2yrs plus still kenot fix
Fk toyota
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Yeah meh? I got 1st n 3rd gen vios. 1st gen very smooth. Best among all vios. 3rd feels too fast like too much torque but at same time, the car feel like can't move
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 11:49 PM)
bro Im sure u havent drove a car with campro engine before lol. Then u will know what is no power.
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Yeah proton engine no power in low rpm. But above 2k rpm. Torque is more readily available.
Low rpm torque is useful when starting in traffic light.
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:06 PM

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i have both proton and vios, high speed corner proton is sharp and stable vios buai. and yes i corner around 100-120kph

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post Nov 11 2019, 11:08 PM

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kek... jangan cabar proton
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(cheongster86 @ Nov 11 2019, 08:35 PM)
the only true lotus handling is satria neo.

after satria neo, the lotus handling is simply just a marketing gimmick.

satria neo is truly a sports car. the only problem is campro engine is shit.
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+1 all these lotus handling are nothing more than commercial gimmicky names to make the ordinary driver feels like a wannabe pro racer while driving through a Jam packed Jalan Tun Razak on a Friday afternoon at 10km/hr




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post Nov 11 2019, 11:15 PM

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Not sure why it matters, all of it are econobox cars at the shit class category.

Rather they gave Peugeot quality interior than a Lotus inspired handling.

For everyday cars, it still can't beat Fords.
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Nov 11 2019, 10:46 PM)
Gen1 Persona launch 1993, Gen2 Vios launch 2002...
and you take this 2 to compare...

Moreover, Proton bought Lotus back in 1996, so I am 99% sure Lotus not involved in tuning Gen1 Persona AT ALL.
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you are confusing Wira with 1st gen Persona.

Wira was called Persona in export markets. In Malaysia 1st Gen Persona was launched in 2007.

Also gen 2 Vios launched in 2007.

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post Nov 11 2019, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 11 2019, 11:15 PM)
Not sure why it matters, all of it are econobox cars at the shit class category.

Rather they gave Peugeot quality interior than a Lotus inspired handling.

For everyday cars, it still can't beat Fords.
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Ford? Bad taste
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 11 2019, 10:46 PM)
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>Dugong
>Same handling than persona elegance

Lel, TS unker driver can say liddat la, my daily driver Gen2 CPS MT, i can say Msians vast majority like to waste time drive slow, hog right lanes, etc, no sense of urgency in driving, i notice i drive faster than many people.

For me, screw fc, time is too precious to waste liddat, Vios just doesn't cut it. I've driven it plenty enough, i find myself too nervous, had to slow down than I'd like to drive cuz that car just doesn't inspire confidence like my Gen2 does.

But good for TS la, fits his driving. To those that pushes the car's limit further, the Lotus handling is not a gimmick.
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 11 2019, 10:29 PM)
Shit tyres, first gen vios, rain plus heavy corner. Oh n 90km/h. Masuk subang longkang. Not the type if longkang I want masuk
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After that turned into rat nest? hmm.gif
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2019, 11:28 PM)
After that turned into rat nest? hmm.gif
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Car still fine. Front side bumper habis, suspension habis. Repair around 10k plus
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post Nov 11 2019, 11:45 PM

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Ts sudah try Preve ornot. You just tested persons and concluded Lotus handling is overrated. Not fair ler

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post Nov 12 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:19 PM)
Ford? Bad taste
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Used to drive a Taurus, Contour and Mondeo Mk1 and Mk2.

All were pretty good cars for what they were.
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:06 AM

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Many experienced car reviewer (I'm sure not all are paid reviews right...) have driven recent proton made cars and have commended on its ride and handling.

What any credibility have you, 1 individual out of many to say that protons lotus ride and handling is a gimmick?

It's not shown now yes the lotus handling badge and all, but I'm sure there is some significant remnants of it. Evidence through their R3 team and rally.

Just watch this uncle push the lastest saga to its limits up genting.

https://youtu.be/GAUCxIv-5HY

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post Nov 12 2019, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(ganz @ Nov 11 2019, 09:12 PM)
As much I want to condemn proton.. saying vios have a good handling make me laugh even more
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indeed

sampan floating feeling... goodness... how lah to attack corner furiously?

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