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TSanakMY
post Nov 11 2019, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(DS51 @ Nov 11 2019, 08:58 PM)
Ts can try tampin to kuala pilah road too. No need to go too fast to feel the handling. Sharp corner bend, can feel, hesitate or not to turn steering wheel. Can really feel, handling accuracy.
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Im quite gentle to corners, I dont push the car, even if its on my persona. bout 60-70kmh is comfortable enuff for both cars. Some sharper ones bout 40-50kmh is ok too.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:01 PM

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How come iriz won rally?
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Nov 11 2019, 09:01 PM)
How come iriz won rally?
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r u joking or what? its been heavily modded of course.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:03 PM

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should compare with 3rd gen vios, it is worse than dugong
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(BluePants @ Nov 11 2019, 08:28 PM)
I think best handling proton to is Gen2, but ride is like shit.

But even the best proton cannot match a basic Ford Fiesta which handles better and rides better.
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I commute to work for 7 years using 2011 fofi hb, spirited driving
Once had to borrow a friend’s satria neo for a few weeks and i still thinks it handles better
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM

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This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Truth is, most don't even know what good handling is even if it hit them in the face.

When asked, I remember one of the answer (years ago forgot from FnF or /k) was "Myvi has superior handling because the steering is light and easy to turn."
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QUOTE(BluePants @ Nov 11 2019, 08:28 PM)
I think best handling proton to is Gen2, but ride is like shit.

But even the best proton cannot match a basic Ford Fiesta which handles better and rides better.
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dont think its fair to compare a sedan with a hatchback
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM)
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Truth is, most don't even know what good handling is even if it hit them in the face.

When asked, I remember one of the answer (years ago forgot from FnF or /k) was "Myvi has superior handling because the steering is light and easy to turn."
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must be from /k/

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post Nov 11 2019, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 11 2019, 08:34 PM)
vios steering feel is pretty good?!?!
SERIOUSLY?
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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 11 2019, 08:35 PM)
R u sure vios handling better? U must be joking. Vios is one of the worse car I drove in terms of handling. Fast speed unstable. Corner unstable

Change new persona the handling improved by miles and more powerful.

But gearbox vios feels better. That's all
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As much I want to condemn proton.. saying vios have a good handling make me laugh even more
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(trix @ Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM)
I commute to work for 7 years using 2011 fofi hb, spirited driving
Once had to borrow a friend’s satria neo for a few weeks and i still thinks it handles better
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hv u tried jepunis cars?

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM)
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Truth is, most don't even know what good handling is even if it hit them in the face.

When asked, I remember one of the answer (years ago forgot from FnF or /k) was "Myvi has superior handling because the steering is light and easy to turn."
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yes u r right, most of ppl dont even know what handling is. But to say persona's handling is very superior, I think its overrated, it might just handles slightly better. The vios can handle corners well to, I think it also depending on the skill level of the driver, and what kind of speed one is cornering. If u attack corners less aggressively I think both cars more or less handles the same, both are under control.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:19 PM

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Hatchback> sedan
Tak ada rasa membuang dekat belakang.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 08:48 PM)
how fast do u want it to be?
no roll bar but if u dont do cornering in high speed its okay lah bro, Im not a racer.

Not so bad cornering lah bro, all along i hv been driving persona hantam corner, change to vios ok also lah, maybe driver skillful im not sure lol.

Seats is better than persona , interior much much refined.

The ride is better on vios, suspensions are softer , but not until like a sampan if u keep speeds below 120kmh.
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Actually I Corner also not fast. Around 60km/h. But vios feel like floating dy.

Persona u need mod abit n trust me. It will alot better. I upgrade sound proofing n the car feels so much better
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2019, 09:08 PM)
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Truth is, most don't even know what good handling is even if it hit them in the face.

When asked, I remember one of the answer (years ago forgot from FnF or /k) was "Myvi has superior handling because the steering is light and easy to turn."
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:34 PM

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the old persona elegance has good handling. Way better than vios. I have my routine route to test cars, normally late at night. I test a day before sending to service or for test drive, i normally do on weekends.

And im confident to say, persona elegance is better than vios. But not the new model, havent tested that yet. But if compare with new persona, yea, i think vios wins.
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R3 lotus turner > vios
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 11 2019, 09:28 PM)
Actually I Corner also not fast. Around 60km/h. But vios feel like floating dy.

Persona u need mod abit n trust me. It will alot better. I upgrade sound proofing n the car feels so much better
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Before corner I will let go fuel paddle, let it cruise on 70-60kmh, just nice. doesnt feel floating.

QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Nov 11 2019, 09:34 PM)
the old persona elegance has good handling. Way better than vios. I have my routine route to test cars, normally late at night. I test a day before sending to service or for test drive, i normally do on weekends.

And im confident to say, persona elegance is better than vios. But not the new model, havent tested that yet. But if compare with new persona, yea, i think vios wins.
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what speed u hantam corner? u must be driving aggresively.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 09:00 PM)
Im quite gentle to corners, I dont push the car, even if its on my persona. bout 60-70kmh is comfortable enuff for both cars. Some sharper ones bout 40-50kmh is ok too.
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At those speeds, I can say your comparison is not conclusive enough.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 11 2019, 08:35 PM)
R u sure vios handling better? U must be joking. Vios is one of the worse car I drove in terms of handling. Fast speed unstable. Corner unstable



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post Nov 11 2019, 09:41 PM

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waja, ori satria gti, handling quite good. ride comfort was ok too...



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post Nov 11 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 08:24 PM)
In my opinion, lotus handling in proton is overrated.

Ppl has been talking bout how good proton cars handling is.

The fact is that, I own a 1st gen persona, drove it for 6 years.

lately I started driving vios 2nd gen, drove it at sub urban kampung roads, speed maintain bout 90-100km/h,

I do not feel that much of a difference between the handling of both.

It might be that I do corners at speed of 60-80kmh depends on the angulation of the corners, is it consider slow? Both car handles quite well for me.

In terms of pricing, a vios high spec is almost double the price of a persona,

The vios is a much refined car
-the engine is powerful and reliable
-transmission does not gv much problems too
-the interior is much refined compared to protons
-the steering feel is pretty good

In general, persona isnt that bad either, for almost half of the price of a vios. Its also reliable, it just lack that refinement,
-fuel hungry and less powerful campro but reliable
-4at is also a reliable transmission.
-IAFM will gv prob after driving 100-200k
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Used to have a Savvy. Better handling than any VIOS or City. And i have a current gen City.

Honestly, i don't think you understand what handling means...

This post has been edited by 8bitguy: Nov 11 2019, 09:42 PM

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