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TSanakMY
post Nov 12 2019, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Nov 12 2019, 12:06 AM)
Many experienced car reviewer (I'm sure not all are paid reviews right...) have driven recent proton made cars and have commended on its ride and handling.

What any credibility have you,  1 individual out of many to say that protons lotus ride and handling is a gimmick?

It's not shown now yes the lotus handling badge and all, but I'm sure there is some significant remnants of it. Evidence through their R3 team and rally.

Just watch this uncle push the lastest saga to its limits up genting.

https://youtu.be/GAUCxIv-5HY
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What credibility should I hve to voice out my own opinion ? U don’t like it u just leave lah. Why so triggered ?
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Nov 12 2019, 12:06 AM)
Many experienced car reviewer (I'm sure not all are paid reviews right...) have driven recent proton made cars and have commended on its ride and handling.

What any credibility have you,  1 individual out of many to say that protons lotus ride and handling is a gimmick?

It's not shown now yes the lotus handling badge and all, but I'm sure there is some significant remnants of it. Evidence through their R3 team and rally.

Just watch this uncle push the lastest saga to its limits up genting.

https://youtu.be/GAUCxIv-5HY
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Brother YS Khong really push the car at the corners

1st 1.3 car he drove up to genting in 30 years lol biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 12 2019, 12:13 AM)
indeed

sampan floating feeling... goodness... how lah to attack corner furiously?
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attack corner liddis


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post Nov 12 2019, 12:26 AM

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I think on day to day driving, most cars will feel similar with softer sprung car feeling more superior as most city roads are bumpy and rough, having a smoother ride makes you feel that you are more in control.

However, try driving up/down places like genting and Cameron that have sharp and continuous corners. That's when you can tell what car feels easier to control.

Gotta agree that IAFM is dogshit and campro is very rough. Most Protons have a very comfy yet firm ride but the noisy campro just ruins everything.

My own 1st gen persona is free of most creaks/rattles but the noise and vibration at higher speed /rpm from the engine is just terrible. Very quiet and comfy ride under 100kmh / 3krpm though, I would say it is even more comfortable than the latest myvi on rougher roads.

The 4AT is also smoother than stupid punch CVT for daily usage, no stupid clutch causing delays and jerks.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Nov 12 2019, 12:25 AM)
attack corner liddis


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post Nov 12 2019, 12:43 AM

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I used to prioritise handling over comfort in my younger days. Modifying suspension setup and such.

Now i'm contented drive stock standard with only requirement of having good tyres. I think i am getting old.. lol
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 12 2019, 12:13 AM)
indeed

sampan floating feeling... goodness... how lah to attack corner furiously?
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Apply hard brake all the way..hahahahha
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:54 AM

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Btw uncle khong reviewed the latest gen vios. He said is pretty decent handling and nolonger like older gens.

U guys shoild be more specific in which gen vios.
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 11 2019, 01:08 PM)
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Truth is, most don't even know what good handling is even if it hit them in the face.

When asked, I remember one of the answer (years ago forgot from FnF or /k) was "Myvi has superior handling because the steering is light and easy to turn."
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My definition of good handling is when you kona high speed, you dont Feel terbuang outside, the car is planted to the road, it goes where you want it to go.
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post Nov 12 2019, 01:01 AM

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Lotus Handling?
Satria GTi qualifies for it, because it's the only car that have the sticker.
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post Nov 12 2019, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Nov 12 2019, 01:01 AM)
Lotus Handling?
Satria GTi qualifies for it, because it's the only car that have the sticker.
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Neo and Suprima also got that sticker from factory
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post Nov 12 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 12 2019, 01:06 AM)
Neo and Suprima also got that sticker from factory
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Neo and Suprima is newer models mah.
GTi is the 1st model to have that.
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(hideyoshie @ Nov 11 2019, 10:03 PM)
If u know what is oversteer and understeer while taking corner then only u talk about good handling.
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If you know, please enlighten us.... No we don't want answer from uncle google.

We want to know exactly how LOTUS HANDLING prevents Oversteer and Understeer!!!!!
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:11 AM

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LOTUS engineering is just a name only, they only tweeted the Mitsubishi suspension which any Ah Beng under the tree workshop can do, but the name is valuable so Proton bought it over and used it kawkaw. If you look at the so called Neo and Waja lotus suspension, it is exactly the same as Wira suspensions.
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:15 AM

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My point is , do u know such high level of handling in everyday goto-to-work drive. There is reason too why myvi is the best selling car.
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:18 AM

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does ts know vios 2nd gen and persona both are 4 speed auto? lol
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(meatsteak @ Nov 12 2019, 07:18 AM)
does ts know vios 2nd gen and persona both are 4 speed auto? lol
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Yes of course , but the one on vios both engine and transmission are more refined , u feel power in stop and go traffic.
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post Nov 12 2019, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 12 2019, 07:21 AM)
Yes of course , but the one on vios both engine and transmission are more refined , u feel power in stop and go traffic.
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The vios is a much refined car
-the engine is powerful and reliable
-transmission does not gv much problems too
-the interior is much refined compared to protons
-the steering feel is pretty good

In general, persona isnt that bad either, for almost half of the price of a vios. Its also reliable, it just lack that refinement,
-fuel hungry and less powerful campro but reliable
-4at is also a reliable transmission.
-IAFM will gv prob after driving 100-200k

speak like both are different transmission lol

vios
- all rounded car, no good no bad, mostly 50/50.

persona
- iafm module need to be replace at certain mileage
- heavy campro engine
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post Nov 12 2019, 08:06 AM

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Whatever technology u give to proton also become shit
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post Nov 12 2019, 08:14 AM

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i use to drive a myvi ezi and persona 2019, what i can tell between this 2 car is,

persona feel comfortable and handling is much more better

but fuel consumption for sure is so much different too,

myvi really is fuel efficiency


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