Im quite gentle to corners, I dont push the car, even if its on my persona. bout 60-70kmh is comfortable enuff for both cars. Some sharper ones bout 40-50kmh is ok too.

I oversteer masuk longkang. Count onot?

Gen1 Persona launch 1993, Gen2 Vios launch 2002...
and you take this 2 to compare...

Moreover, Proton bought Lotus back in 1996, so I am 99% sure Lotus not involved in tuning Gen1 Persona AT ALL.

Shit tyres, first gen vios, rain plus heavy corner. Oh n 90km/h. Masuk subang longkang. Not the type if longkang I want masuk

LOTUS engineering is just a name only, they only tweeted the Mitsubishi suspension which any Ah Beng under the tree workshop can do, but the name is valuable so Proton bought it over and used it kawkaw. If you look at the so called Neo and Waja lotus suspension, it is exactly the same as Wira suspensions.

To simulate an emergency double lane change, we were told to drive towards the cones at 60 km/h, resist the urge to brake and at the last moment, jerk the steering wheel to the left and to the right, and repeating the same again almost immediately after. The exercise left some of the City’s peers spinning out of control and slamming into the cardboard boxes, which in a real-life emergency situation, could’ve been real cars.

Amidst the carnage of flattened cones and flying cardboard boxes, the City avoided the obstacles with little drama. The City test cars were wearing standard Goodyear Excellence 185/55 R16 tyres.

VSA works in the background by continuously monitoring grip levels on each wheel to prevent a car from skidding. Of course, VSA is not idiot-proof and its life-saving potential is still limited by the available grip between the road and the tyres. Do remember however, that VSA is only available on the E and V grade models.

Of the trio of Honda’s competitors, the Almera felt the most nervous, probably due to its long but narrow body, while the Vios was slightly better. Interestingly, the Polo Sedan proved to be very stable throughout the exercise. Although it didn’t have an ESP system (as Volkswagen calls it), it was very difficult to lose control of the Polo Sedan, even when we tried to.

The Polo Sedan’s ability to maintain its composure without needing electronic aids was indeed surprising. It is a testament to the Volkswagen’s superb chassis, proving that it is important to have a good chassis before electronic driver’s aids can work its magic.

lotus handling

what do proton do to make it handle like lotus?

hardware wise? share the same suspension set up like lotus exige? elise?

different absorber? arm? extra stabiliser?

that's why i said

what makes proton car have term of lotus handling?

suspension? chasiss? does lotus engineers really did eg waja suspension? they got select or input about proton car way of handling?

from what i seen, it just 4 independent suspension from ancient mitsubishi dna.

satria gti = mitsubishi mirage

waja= mitsubishi carisma

of course not

but usually we can find the press or info from the manufacturer

or the spare part info share between owner

hence what i asking.

if u can't answer, dont bother my question, leave to other experts

What makes lotus so planted on high speed eventhough got very light kerb weight?. I read it is so low as low as go kart car and got downforce?. What is the downforce here?. Normal car dont have downforce?

Even mercedes/bmw still make their car as heavy as fuck to make it so stable on high speed.

I ask u because got read youtube comment. Myvi owner butthurt someone said his car not stable due to light kerb weight. Myvi owner qoute lotus. Lol. Not me debate. Just eat pop corn read.

well, to be start, no one would care for myvi, because it's not badge as handing by daihatsu

like i said, u no expert, so don't bother.

why i should find answer for u? kekw

I'm not the one who asked or reply u in the first sentence, I'm asking for those who knows, yet u suka2 butt in and act like expert, then u asked me pula myvi question

dah, pandai sikit2 act like pandai sgt

just diam je, easy, world would be a better place

well, looks who act expert, i think it was u

stomache hurt??? hahaha, new word ke bro expert?

Dude... if you don't know who Dares is, then I'd suggest you'd stop commenting any further la...

Among all of us, he's more car kaki/sifu/expert than all of us...

then u shouldn't edit ur comment, embraced it

chill man, both u and i gain nothing in Internet *handshake

Lotus generally is planted in cornering, may or may not be planted in high speed straight line as some other cars designed for high speeds (say maybe the Civic type R with it's ricer looking amount of aero parts)

Dares mentioned (low) center of gravity then there's suspensions, and everything of that working together.

Down force essentially is weight.
Wind pushing down on the car, creates additional "weight"
Pros and cons, and not accounting for badly applied aero causing them to act as sails instead of providing down force.

Then there's air drag, slowing your car/increasing fuel consumption.

Very complex stuffs