that's why i said

what makes proton car have term of lotus handling?

suspension? chasiss? does lotus engineers really did eg waja suspension? they got select or input about proton car way of handling?

from what i seen, it just 4 independent suspension from ancient mitsubishi dna.

satria gti = mitsubishi mirage

waja= mitsubishi carisma

of course not

but usually we can find the press or info from the manufacturer

or the spare part info share between owner

hence what i asking.

if u can't answer, dont bother my question, leave to other experts

driving dynamic, means can corner 99? or very comfortable over high speed?
if u say can corner very high vs normal car, i not agree, many modern car handles as better if not better than proton

both u and i knows it, Proton owned lotus, handling by lotus just a marketing term to sell better in oversea.

watch how top gear bashed our satria neo, it's not any better than suzuki swift

yeah, campro really minum minyak like 3 litre engine during higher rpm. im guessing that the engine is working very very hard to power the heavy chassis.

that's why not many persona/iriz/saga/exora/preve cruise at high speed, always bawak around 110-130kmh only. meanwhile axia/myvi/city/vios tailgating at 140kmh without worrying much about fc.

driving dynamics can be something like a car's handling that is highly manoeuvrable

break it down also means you can try to push it and find the limit, it gives you more confident in control

also the feedback you received thru visual, inside cabin, and thru steering wheel is informative

cars without driving dynamics you could push and it could snap out, possibly lose control, it could behave properly and then just over the limit

also means it possibly void of feedback and road holding feeling, the steering which is the only and direct link with the road on the ground is numb, over-assisted and incredibly diluted
btw you shouldnt try so hard to discredit something that is true and find fault with word choices in their replies

Dude... if you don't know who Dares is, then I'd suggest you'd stop commenting any further la...

Among all of us, he's more car kaki/sifu/expert than all of us...

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Let me explain la...

Both the Ford Focus and Honda Civic have independent suspension.. why does the Ford Focus handles better in corner than the Civic?

1. Ford Focus has a stiffer suspension (15% stiffer)
2. Lower ride height > Lower centre of gravity.
3. Engine weight distribution is close to 52% Front/48% rear compared to Honda's 55%/45%.

You can say that both model have the same setup... however its the tuning and numbers that differs between the model, which makes the Focus handles better than the Civic.

This is where Lotus comes in. They consult automakers on how to tune their car's handling;
1. Ride height / Center of gravity.
2. Front and rear antiroll bar stiffness ratio.
3. Spring compression rate (how much the spring compress when going over bumps).
4. Spring rebound rate (how much the spring returns to "normal" after going over bumps).
5. Weight distribution.
6. Tire pressure
7. Camber / Toe

These are just a few.. and all these needs a VALUE/NUMBER to adjust, thus Lotus is damn good at this. The number is what separates a good tuning company between a "wanna-be-ah-beng style" tuner.