I drive the Vios Dugong for 8++ years..

The car in highway can go 150kmh on the speedometer... no problem, can maintain that speed ok, so far 8+ years the car still can do this speed..

corner is a big no no.. the electric power steering is like playing broken daytona arcade game.. no feedback and poor...

Addon- I did test on persona and gen2... the handling as in cornering feel and steering feedback is much better then Vios... So, yea... but those 2 car, drink petrol like no tomorrow when u hit 130kmh and over...

This post has been edited by popopi: Nov 15 2019, 02:08 PM

To correct your first question....Proton cars does not handle like a Lotus car, which seems to be a major confusion for most people.

Lotus Engineering used to consult for other carmakers on various technical capacity, suspension tuning is just one of them. For those carmakers that make normal econo cars, "Lotus tuned" doesn't necessarily mean tuned for racing, but for the best balance in terms of the manufacturer's intended comfort level and handling characteristics. Lotus Engineering also tuned suspensions for Hyundai, Kia and Jaguar in the past.

Handling of a car involves many factors such as the chassis stiffness, suspension geometry, spring rate, rebound rate, dampening rate etc. etc. etc. All cars are different...... if it were so easy, all carmakers making hatchbacks, for example, will simply copy the suspension on the Renault Megane RS or Ford Focus ST and call it a day.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 15 2019, 02:25 PM

that's why i said

what makes proton car have term of lotus handling?

suspension? chasiss? does lotus engineers really did eg waja suspension? they got select or input about proton car way of handling?

from what i seen, it just 4 independent suspension from ancient mitsubishi dna.

satria gti = mitsubishi mirage

waja= mitsubishi carisma

With just your naked eyes, can you tell the spring rate? absorber rebound rate? dampening rate? Do you know which part of the chassis has been reinforced to reduce flex?

Even Inspira has different suspension than it's rebadged counterpart Lancer, can you see any difference?

If your logic is true, then a Focus RS is no different than a normal Focus because both use same lower arms in their equally same macpherson front and multilink rear geometry.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 15 2019, 02:39 PM

of course not

but usually we can find the press or info from the manufacturer

or the spare part info share between owner

hence what i asking.

if u can't answer, dont bother my question, leave to other experts

I think overall driving dynamic

salesman said so, Proton owned Lotus, Proton buyer syok sendiri to the moon

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Nov 15 2019, 02:42 PM

What makes lotus so planted on high speed eventhough got very light kerb weight?. I read it is so low as low as go kart car and got downforce?. What is the downforce here?. Normal car dont have downforce?

Even mercedes/bmw still make their car as heavy as fuck to make it so stable on high speed.

I ask u because got read youtube comment. Myvi owner butthurt someone said his car not stable due to light kerb weight. Myvi owner qoute lotus. Lol. Not me debate. Just eat pop corn read.

If needs experts answer you better go to Proton or Lotus HQ interview them or at least email them la.

driving dynamic, means can corner 99? or very comfortable over high speed?
if u say can corner very high vs normal car, i not agree, many modern car handles as better if not better than proton

both u and i knows it, Proton owned lotus, handling by lotus just a marketing term to sell better in oversea.

watch how top gear bashed our satria neo, it's not any better than suzuki swift

If you think these kind of information are so widely available, please try and find the stock spring rate, compression rate and rebound rate of a 3rd gen Myvi and come back with the answer.

Show that you understand anything before demanding so-called "experts" to layan you.

yeah it's like asking the nasi lemak seller about his sambal

why so sedap ? can you tell me what kinf of chilli you put, what sugar etc etc

tis

Center of gravity, for example.

Kalau rasa fiesta handling sedap, cuba test drive mini cooper s jcw, haritu lepas test drive mini, balik rumah bawak pesta balik rasa macam apsal sampan sangat kete ni hahaha

mini way over pricetag
hahaha

Sewa socar pakai promo code jerr utk rasa

It is about driving pleassure and driving comfort lor.

It is all about the feel thats all i can say.

You want highly technical answer here is not the place unless you get the answers from the experts and share it here.

Useless to tell you want.

Have you driven and compare Iriz and Myvi on same type of road?

Did you even try to drive Saga vs Bezza ?

well, to be start, no one would care for myvi, because it's not badge as handing by daihatsu

like i said, u no expert, so don't bother.

I meant such a common and widely modified car model you also can't find that information, but expect other carmakers to make available those info LMAO

You seem to know nothing and failed comprehension, why bother to ask?

Trying hard to prove something it seems.