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lagista
post Nov 12 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Nov 12 2019, 10:07 AM)
Ada agama, top management semua orang kiter, malu apa jual bawah pokok? biggrin.gif

Sekarang cina pegang, eeee tak ada agama pula tu ewwwww
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Also got promosi bawah pokok kelapa tepi pantai terengganu 2014 but news from pauline so kenot post link here... smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2019, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Nov 12 2019, 10:53 AM)
kecian.

no matter how hard proton market the lotus handling, it still does not appear in the game Gran Turismo. Even Suzuki swift sport appeared with 5.3 handling capability out of 10.

so protoners must be dreaming only.
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wrong focus I would say.
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post Nov 12 2019, 11:42 AM

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For me handling is - Feel confident and exited when holding steering wheel..


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post Nov 12 2019, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 12 2019, 11:33 AM)
wrong focus I would say.
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Proton - dreamland.

If anything, the S2000 in rally prove something. yet, they global have not recognize it. more like dengki. but oh well, its good to just forget about the handling and buy X70 for the most valuable suv purchase ever in the history of Potong.


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post Nov 12 2019, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Nov 12 2019, 11:54 AM)
Proton - dreamland.

If anything, the S2000 in rally prove something. yet, they global have not recognize it. more like dengki. but oh well, its good to just forget about the handling and buy X70 for the most valuable suv purchase ever in the history of Potong.
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U need good handlin for spirited driving, racing, rallying.

Majority ppl does not do that everyday. Ppl want a car which is reliable, safe and good fuel consumption.
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:11 PM

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Probably won't feel much diff from normal point A to B daily driving.
Just wanted to come here and say at 'that' price point, Satria Neo drives really good.
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:15 PM

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So what is the conclusions from 7 page thread?

Proton lotus handling is above average but not the best really.
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:17 PM

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TS should try drive Satria GTI. superb handling kot.
dares
post Nov 12 2019, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(r3d2 @ Nov 12 2019, 07:11 AM)
LOTUS engineering is just a name only, they only tweeted the Mitsubishi suspension which any Ah Beng under the tree workshop can do, but the name is valuable so Proton bought it over and used it kawkaw. If you look at the so called Neo and Waja lotus suspension, it is exactly the same as Wira suspensions.
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LMAO

Now this is the type of answer you'd expect from /k biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 12 2019, 12:19 PM
RobUlstan
post Nov 12 2019, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 12 2019, 12:10 PM)
U need good handlin for spirited driving, racing, rallying.

Majority ppl does not do that everyday. Ppl want a car which is reliable, safe and good fuel consumption.
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You are correct in everything in the post above, but I hope you now understand that Persona really does have better handling than that Vios. It might not be the best but for that segment/price Proton is better than most.

How you like to drive it does not invalidate that fact. It's like saying I like to drive slow and for everyday driving in city no need to drive very fast, so that Ferrari and Vios same speed also no different to me. So is Ferrari claim of being fast true?
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:42 PM

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Good handling makes the car safer in more conditions. Conversely cars with lousy handling makes it dangerous to drive, for example early batches of the Elantra MD that has a tendency to fishtail. Less said about Maivee the better.

Ppl also don't accident everyday but accidents do happen. When you are avoiding unexpected obstacles on the road, you want a car that response to your control instead of spinning straight to the nearest longkang at the slightest flick of the steering wheel. Worse yet, you don't want a car that suddenly loses control while you are driving normally.

/ktards like to write off good handling is for racing/rallying only, especially when defending P2 and toyotas that historically have lousy handling.

To further illustrate the importance of good handling even on a daily driven car:

https://www.carlist.my/news/review-all-new-...on-60609/60609/

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To simulate an emergency double lane change, we were told to drive towards the cones at 60 km/h, resist the urge to brake and at the last moment, jerk the steering wheel to the left and to the right, and repeating the same again almost immediately after. The exercise left some of the City’s peers spinning out of control and slamming into the cardboard boxes, which in a real-life emergency situation, could’ve been real cars.

Amidst the carnage of flattened cones and flying cardboard boxes, the City avoided the obstacles with little drama. The City test cars were wearing standard Goodyear Excellence 185/55 R16 tyres.

VSA works in the background by continuously monitoring grip levels on each wheel to prevent a car from skidding. Of course, VSA is not idiot-proof and its life-saving potential is still limited by the available grip between the road and the tyres. Do remember however, that VSA is only available on the E and V grade models.

Of the trio of Honda’s competitors, the Almera felt the most nervous, probably due to its long but narrow body, while the Vios was slightly better. Interestingly, the Polo Sedan proved to be very stable throughout the exercise. Although it didn’t have an ESP system (as Volkswagen calls it), it was very difficult to lose control of the Polo Sedan, even when we tried to.

The Polo Sedan’s ability to maintain its composure without needing electronic aids was indeed surprising. It is a testament to the Volkswagen’s superb chassis, proving that it is important to have a good chassis before electronic driver’s aids can work its magic.


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post Nov 12 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 08:24 PM)
In my opinion, lotus handling in proton is overrated.

Ppl has been talking bout how good proton cars handling is.

The fact is that, I own a 1st gen persona, drove it for 6 years.

lately I started driving vios 2nd gen, drove it at sub urban kampung roads, speed maintain bout 90-100km/h,

I do not feel that much of a difference between the handling of both.

It might be that I do corners at speed of 60-80kmh depends on the angulation of the corners, is it consider slow? Both car handles quite well for me.

In terms of pricing, a vios high spec is almost double the price of a persona,

The vios is a much refined car
-the engine is powerful and reliable
-transmission does not gv much problems too
-the interior is much refined compared to protons
-the steering feel is pretty good

In general, persona isnt that bad either, for almost half of the price of a vios. Its also reliable, it just lack that refinement,
-fuel hungry and less powerful campro but reliable
-4at is also a reliable transmission.
-IAFM will gv prob after driving 100-200k
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Hmm. Your village is on the flat plains of kedah?

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post Nov 12 2019, 01:04 PM

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even if handling OP

cheapskate malaysians also use cheap tyres laugh.gif

cheap tyres with other cars even more gg


i dont work hard and drive proton
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post Nov 15 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2019, 12:18 PM)
LMAO

Now this is the type of answer you'd expect from /k  biggrin.gif
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Idiots and idiotic replies such as this makes Ford vs Ferrari even more enjoyable lol

Separating the normies and those who actually get it
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post Nov 15 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Nov 11 2019, 08:24 PM)
In my opinion, lotus handling in proton is overrated.

Ppl has been talking bout how good proton cars handling is.

The fact is that, I own a 1st gen persona, drove it for 6 years.

lately I started driving vios 2nd gen, drove it at sub urban kampung roads, speed maintain bout 90-100km/h,

I do not feel that much of a difference between the handling of both.

It might be that I do corners at speed of 60-80kmh depends on the angulation of the corners, is it consider slow? Both car handles quite well for me.

In terms of pricing, a vios high spec is almost double the price of a persona,

The vios is a much refined car
-the engine is powerful and reliable
-transmission does not gv much problems too
-the interior is much refined compared to protons
-the steering feel is pretty good

In general, persona isnt that bad either, for almost half of the price of a vios. Its also reliable, it just lack that refinement,
-fuel hungry and less powerful campro but reliable
-4at is also a reliable transmission.
-IAFM will gv prob after driving 100-200k
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Obvious you never drived waja and sgti before.

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post Nov 15 2019, 11:27 AM

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lotus handling

what do proton do to make it handle like lotus?

hardware wise? share the same suspension set up like lotus exige? elise?

different absorber? arm? extra stabiliser?



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post Nov 15 2019, 11:27 AM

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I think Im old, I prefer vios than the first gen persona. mainly bcz of the softer suspension, comfortable ride. And I dont need that much of handling too.
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post Nov 15 2019, 11:32 AM

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no worry is still a volvo which is solid
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post Nov 15 2019, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(BluePants @ Nov 11 2019, 08:28 PM)
I think best handling proton to is Gen2, but ride is like shit.

But even the best proton cannot match a basic Ford Fiesta which handles better and rides better.
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fiesta sedan?
i never try the sedan
but the hatchback 1.6S > all
new myvi also drive like shit compare to my 9 year old fiesta
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post Nov 15 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 15 2019, 11:46 AM)
fiesta sedan?
i never try the sedan
but the hatchback 1.6S > all
new myvi also drive like shit compare to my 9 year old fiesta
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All?

Well to be fair, anything P2 is just not driving inspiring/fun.
No point comparing with P2

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