Lol, what makes you think they would "overdo" things to receive Singapore channels?

Btw are you able to receive Singapore channels now?

Anyone can analyse MUX 1 since Awesome TV has downgraded to SD?

Since 5 element antenna will be enough so I wonder why there are people installing complex structure one with many elements, I have not bought the outdoor antenna yet, I tried to search the Sg channel with indoor antenna on 2nd floor but nothing

This post has been edited by devil_may_cry08: Feb 9 2025, 07:40 PM

NTV7 & TV9 not in 16:9 ?

Since 5 element antenna will be enough so I wonder why there are people installing complex structure one with many elements
Those antennas around your neighbourhood is already there since don't know when, right?

Back then during analogue TV era, I wouldn't rule out the possibility where people would just recommend you to use UHF antenna with a lot of elements, simply because it "can receive signal from far far away", therefore "the picture will be very sharp".
There is a misconception that antenna with more elements always equals better reception. This is one of the common sales tactics, since antenna with more elements costs more, hence it's easier for installer/electrical shop uncle to upsell it to you, hence more profit margin for them. Same goes to signal boosters as well.
But in reality, since the line-of-distance from the transmitter tower Kulai to Singapore is less than 45km, and in today's context, Singapore's digital TV broadcasts uses a pretty robust modulation of 16QAM (meaning the signal is more robust and doesn't degrade easily through obstructions, as opposed to Malaysia's 256QAM), hence opting a UHF antenna with a lot of elements for your case isn't strictly necessary, as a simpler, smaller antenna like 5E could have done the job just fine.

Example: https://shopee.com.my/Digital-Aerial-indoor...5714.8716544271

Tip: Only if you experience weak or unstable signals due to some local obstructions, then only you use signal booster (e.g. USB-powered ones). Avoid using one if you're able to receive strong and stable signal already.


If you use UHF antenna with more elements (like 14E or more), not only the overall antenna size will be bigger/longer (and slightly expensive), but it'll be a little more challenging for you to get a strong and stable signal as you perform adjustments to the antenna position (compared to 5E).
That's because as the number of elements increases, the antenna beamwidth will become narrower, more focused and sensitive, making reception of distant TV transmitter (e.g. more than 80km) to be possible. But do note that you'll need to fine tune or aim the antenna position properly towards the direction of the TV transmitter tower, as even a slight misalignment of the antenna position could result a big drop in signal readings (or even zero signal).

This is especially true for those who want to try receive Indonesian digital TV channels (from Batam) in Johor Bahru area. Plus, the output power of Indonesia's TV transmitter tower from Batam is not as high as Malaysia and Singapore, hence placing the UHF antenna as high as possible + UHF antenna with a lot of elements + signal booster is necessary to get a stable reception.

I have not bought the outdoor antenna yet, I tried to search the Sg channel with indoor antenna on 2nd floor but nothing
I assume you're living in a landed house?
The position that you place your antenna, you place it near the balcony or window? Can confirm whether is it facing around southeast? Any local obstructions (e.g. trees, buildings) blocking the antenna's view towards southeast?
Can show us a pic of your indoor antenna, or send the link of where you bought it?

Malaysia Digital TV Bitrate Check
10 Feb 2025
RX Site: Within Klang Valley region

Awesome TV downgraded from HD to SD on MYTV


ID : 4122 (0x101A)
Menu ID : 112 (0x70)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 59 s 280 ms
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan type, store method : Separated fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.601 PAL
Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B/G
Matrix coefficients : BT.470 System B/G

MUX 1: 666MHz (Channel 45)

Video & audio bitrate for TV channels:
Full HD = 4Mbps Video, HE-AAC v2 32kbps Audio
SD = 2Mbps Video, HE-AAC v2 32kbps Audio

Audio bitrate for radio channels:
HE-AAC 48kbps

MUX 2: 650MHz (Channel 43)

Video & audio bitrate for TV channels:

Al Hijrah: Full HD = 4Mbps Video, HE-AAC v2 32kbps Audio
The rest of the channels: Full HD = ~3.7Mbps* Video, HE-AAC 48kbps Audio

*MediaInfo indicate as "Nominal bit rate: 3500 kb/s" (3.5Mbps)

Audio bitrate for radio channels:
HE-AAC 48kbps = Bernama Radio
HE-AAC 112kbps = The rest of RTM radio channels

8TV live shows are shot in new studio with latest equipments.

So, it’s official. Media Prima is now fully operational in Bangsar. All asset operations are now under one roof: TV, radio, print, and digital.

Just like the final days of Television Centre, then now moves to Broadcasting House forever in 2013 (UK), interesting facts.

This post has been edited by feed2doorsmhbm: Feb 10 2025, 10:49 PM

Need to "fit to stretch" to fill in 16:9

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Feb 11 2025, 12:44 AM

It take them 8 whole years for Media Prima to finally switch everything into HD as a standard (and finally phase out all SD equipment).

Media Prima started HD broadcasting at August 2017 (having switched to 16:9 in 2016 - but logos are still in 4:3), but only Tonton and Unifi TV viewers get to enjoy the full lineup in HD.

Because of economical reasons, TV9 is still in SD for most people, and Astro viewers only see Media Prima channels in SD.

Living Delight is really the final TV programme in the country to switch into HD 1080i production standard (which has been the norm for most productions for many many years).

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Feb 11 2025, 12:56 AM

IIRC Media Prima sends 4:3 SD with black bars for NTV7 and TV9, similar it is on Astro.
For Awesome, I presume they are using a more modern solution where it's downscaled without changing the resolution.

Thanks for the professional advice, I also feel is because the installer trying to up sell the antenna, because my residential area is around 6 yrs, which is after the digital signal came out.

I tried to place the antenna link below on the iron grill of 2nd floor window but only can get the MY channel

https://shopee.com.my/UHF-indoor-digital-an...4102.3893506126


I have the TV antenna wall socket at my house but don't know where it leads to yet, logically we can buy the 5 element outdoor antenna and connect with it right?

I tried to place the antenna link below on the iron grill of 2nd floor window but only can get the MY channel
That window you're referring to, is it facing towards southeast?
Do you see any big building blocks or big trees or big hills that is near to you that may be blocking your scenary view from the window? Need you to confirm on this before advising further.

If it's okay for you, can take pic of the view of your 2nd floor window?

I have the TV antenna wall socket at my house but don't know where it leads to yet, logically we can buy the 5 element outdoor antenna and connect with it right?
Do you see any TV antenna at the rooftop of your house?
If not, do you see a cable connection at the rooftop of your house, which may lead down to the TV antenna wall socket of your room at 2nd floor?

If worse come to worse, buy new RG6 wiring, buy 5E antenna (or opt for 14E antenna if you're worried), lay the new cable from your rooftop down to your room, and check if you're able to receive Singapore channels.
If not sure, you can hire a technician that does TV antenna installations to come over and do it for you.
If you really opted for this option, you might as well target for being able to receive Indonesian channels also hahaha...

If they moved, what will happen to sri pentas in the future?

Mix development worth billions of ringgit on prime land

💰💵🤑🔥

They’ve already moved since October 2025 by phases, with the final broadcast of Tanyalah Ustaz in 4:3 576i format on last Sunday (Feb 9).

Sri Pentas is history. Housing development replaces the site.

my house facing north unblock view can see the clear sky and the kelapa sawit few kilometre away, no antenna at the rooftop, have not asked the my contractor to check if there is any cable inside the roof, reason not finding technician to do it is to save cost , as they at least charge few hundred for it, if simple antenna will work, I can ask my contractor to install it, FOC

have not asked the my contractor to check if there is any cable inside the roof,
Sounds like you're currently doing some renovation works on the house or something? :hmm

my house facing north unblock view can see the clear sky and the kelapa sawit few kilometre away, no antenna at the rooftop,
If that's the case, hmm, I'm not too sure whether 5E elements antenna would be strong and stable enough to receive stable reception of Singapore channels if the antenna is pointing towards opposite direction away from Singapore... It's a "maybe yes or no" situation here...
Using a signal booster might help, but if using antenna with more elements is more likely not going to work.
shaun_kok What do you think if he/she go for 5E element antenna?

On other note, to get the best results and a more proper solution, go for rooftop reception.
I'd suggest telling the contractor to make sure to lay a RG6 cable from the rooftop to your room (if there isn't one).
If you're a handy person, you can buy an outdoor antenna, install it at rooftop by yourself (together with the mount), make sure it's pointing towards southeast. Then just connect the cable to the antenna.

In this case, since the antenna can be easily pointed towards southeast (Singapore), you can consider opt for antenna with more elements (14E and above) so you might have the chance to be able to receive Indonesian channels from Batam too.