Well, all the apostles are jews so it is obvious that gonna be in hebrew

While it is true we are responsible for our sin but it is also true, we are all fallen because of Adam's sin.

Read on verse that says death came through the one man adam.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 11 2019, 10:18 AM

BTW

The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
Romans 7:10‭-‬21‭, ‬23‭-‬25 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/rom.7.10-25.ESV

Not necessarily. Depends on who they are writing to. Example if Paul wrote to the Romans, it is more likely Greek.

Who's sidetracking here? Asked you simple questions still evading until now and then get triggered because of a common saying.

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ACTS.21:20-25 (NKJV) = . 20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law; 21 but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come.

23 Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a vow. 24 Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.”
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GAL.2:6-14 = . 6 But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), 9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.

No Return to the Law

11 Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.

14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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Paul, John, Peter and James were Jewish Christians who continued to keep the Law. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, was against James and his party in Jerusalem(= the Judaizers) going around the Jewish diaspora requiring new Gentile Christians to be circumcised and keep all of Moses Law = 613 laws.
....... Paul did not rebuke new Jewish Christians for circumcising their male babies or keeping all of Moses Law. If you think so, you are in error. In fact, Paul even circumcised his disciple Timothy who was half-Jewish. Even today, many US Gentile Christians circumcise their male babies like the Jews, ... but not circumcise them as GC adults, as had been pushed by the Judaizers, led by James. .......

"Many countries with majorities of Christian adherents have low circumcision rates (as in Europe and South America), while both religious and non-religious circumcision is common in some predominantly Christian countries such as the United States, and the Philippines, Canada, and in North Africa and West Africa."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision
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They are the same in the sight or eyes of God. .......

DEUT.6:18-19 =. 18 And you shall do what is right and good in the sight of the Lord, that it may be well with you, and that you may go in and possess the good land of which the Lord swore to your fathers, 19 to cast out all your enemies from before you, as the Lord has spoken.

DEUT.12:8-9 = 8 “You shall not at all do as we are doing here today—every man doing whatever is right in his own eyes— 9 for as yet you have not come to the rest and the inheritance which the Lord your God is giving you.
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Moral conscience in Man came from him breaking good God's commandment by eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, at the behest of evil Satan who cunningly impersonated a snake which can speak, ... and not from being built-into him when Adam was created by God. All goodness and righteousness come from God. All evilness and wrongness come from Satan.
....... It's like a good scientist wanting to create a perfect robot with perfect progamming codes. But an evil hacker came along to put in imperfect programming codes in the robot causing it to fall and fail. So, the scientist had to use an anti-virus program to wash away the evil hacker's virus or malware, in order to save his robot.

The Bible has shown the errors of those who had based their lives on their own corruptible moral conscience of what is right and good in their own eyes, and not on what is right and good in the eyes of God = His Word/Law/laws/commandments.
....... These self-righteous Jews and Christians were not much different from the demonic adherents of today's New Age philosophy being taught in many liberal colleges/universities, where all truths are subjective and not objective = everyone is right and good in his/her own eyes........

JUDGES.17:5-6 = 5 The man Micah had a shrine, and made an ephod and household idols; and he consecrated one of his sons, who became his priest. 6 In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes.

PROVERBS.12:15 = 15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise.

1TIM.4:1-3 = The Great Apostasy

4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

You are trying to side track this

Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

It is, what it is. Through the law, sin /transgress/ offense might abound.

Galatians 5:1-4

1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not be encumbered once more by a yoke of slavery.

2 Take notice: I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.


Read it's meaning. It's interesting the phrase Yoke of slavery is mentioned here together with the phrase circumcision. You either look to the law or you look to God's Grace, there's no two mixture. Circumcision is mentioned here it's one of the 613 laws. Christ would be of no value, look at this strong emphasis. It's either God's law you are justified or God's Grace.

Sorry.

Irrelevant. Point is, Adam and Eve fully understood what is what. Right and wrong..Yes comes from God hence stands with what I said, the moment they were created in his image, that is built in.
The knowledge of good and evil on the other hand gives us the "KNOWLEDGE" of what is good and what is evil and yet the conscious decision to act, still was something already embedded.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 11 2019, 01:49 PM

You spew one more judgmental phrase on me, you will be deemed as overstaying your welcome. Don't degrade yourself to what you say on sylar, I take this to be no difference.
This is my last warning to you. Go ahead do it one more time, you will not be welcome in here. Over here we want friendly fellowship, no you being holier than others, thinking your Catholic Doctrine is the only correct doctrine.

Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:8 (KJV) - But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

What do you understand on Romans 7:8? without the law, sin is dead?

In summary.

God's law empower sin, without the law sin is powerless or dead. That is scripture.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 11 2019, 01:54 PM

Rule No.5 added to 1st page. Take note guys.

No more all these threatening with the phrase hell or calling others with judgement. Nobody in here is qualified to do that. Only God can.

That's your own interpretation.

Read it yourself.


Romans 5:20 (KJV) - Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:8 (KJV) - But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Which part of those verses too difficult for you to understand? Which part of it, is my own interpretation? Which part of it, says otherwise?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 11 2019, 03:08 PM

Fyi, Paul was addressing Gentile Christians at your quote of GAL.5:1-4, and not addressing Jewish Christians. At GAL.2:11-14, the early Jewish Christians cuum Judaizers from Jerusalem had tried to compel new Gentile Christian adults in Galatia to be circumcised and keep all of Moses Law, in order to become "true" Christians like the Judaizers and be saved from hell. Paul was totally against the Judaizers' wrong teaching because Christians were not saved by keeping the Law but by believing in Jesus Christ.

The above controversy had later been settled at the Jerusalem Council of ACTS.15:19-29 = new Gentile Christians were exempted from the burdensome or non-essential parts of Moses Law or God's laws, eg liberated from the law of circumcision, law of kosher/clean foods, etc. OTOH, they were required to begin their born-again Spirit'ual lives by keeping 4 simple non-burdensome laws of Moses, in order to do well on earth. Then they should gradually learn to keep the other non-burdensome or essential laws of God, so as to do even better on earth. Otherwise, they would do worse on earth - JOHN.5:14 & 8:11, 1COR.6:9-11 = "Go and sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you."

As per ROMANS.14:1-4, Gentile Christians were at liberty to not keep or keep these burdensome or non-essential laws = they may or may not circumcise their male babies, eat only kosher/clean foods, keep Sabbath on Sunday only(not other days), etc.
....... Seems, you are misinterpreting GAL.5 to advocate both Jewish and Gentile Christians to always not keep the law of circumcision and all other non-burdensome laws of Moses. That's being too judgmental of other Christians' liberty in non-essential or burdensome laws.......

GAL.5:13-15 = 13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!

In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Love.
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Where in the Bible does it says that when Adam and Eve were created by God, they were both covered with God's glory = were not naked.?

How come they were only ashamed after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and not before, ie if they already had built-in moral conscience of right and wrong when they were created? .......

GENESIS.2:25 = 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

GENESIS.1:31 = . 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good.

At GENESIS.1, God created everything as good, not evil or wrong, eg animals do not know what is evil or wrong. So, it is erroneous to say that God created Adam with the built-in knowledge of good and evil or the moral conscience of right and wrong.

Like I said before, Adam and Eve only knew that they were not supposed to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil when God gave Adam the commandment. If God had not given them the commandment, they would not have known it was evil or wrong of them to eat the fruit. Before the Fall, they saw everything as neutral, neither good nor evil or right nor wrong, like a robot.
....... They erred and fell by not believing in their good God's commandment/Word, and instead believing in the words/lies of evil Satan who impersonated as a talking snake. The main problem with Man lies here, ie believing in the wrong person and his words/lies/deceits, and not with their moral conscience of right and wrong or knowledge of good and evil. Eg God says doing this is evil and wrong but Satan says doing the same thing is good and right. .......

ISAIAH.5:20-21 =
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

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Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!
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Good day.

Read this in verse 6

6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love. <---Meaning those who belong to Christ Jesus then read this

26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.


That's not right. As I said before, they were not created like Robots, Ive mentioned to you how Adam was brought to God's created creatures and on his own, Adam gave them names. he understood what was asked of God. He and Eve also understood God said they will die, so that debunks the notion of robots.

As For they were covered in God's Glory..ie reference to God's Light..Il get back to you.

With all other things, while we can learn apostle Paul to be very liberal and general with the non-essentials thing, it is still a frustration to the God's New Testament
economy.

The decision made by the conference of the apostles and elders in Acts 15 to solve the problem concerning circumcision was not fully satisfactory to him. Therefore, in going to Jerusalem, Paul might have intended to clear up the Judaic influence on the church there. However, God had His own way to deal with the situation. In His sovereignty He allowed Paul to be arrested by the Jews and imprisoned by the Romans. He then allowed the terrible mixture of the grace with the law in Jerusalem to remain until the city was destroyed by Titus with his Roman army in A.D. 70. That mixture was terminated approximately ten years after the events recorded in Acts 21. It is with this, the Jewish mixture lost its influences as time goes.

Secondly, the Lord knew what was in Paul’s heart. He also knew that Paul was faithful but was not able to help the situation. Instead of helping it, Paul was trapped in it by compromising with it. However, the Lord used the uproar described in 21:27-23:15 to rescue Paul. The Jews seized him and were seeking to kill him (21:30-31). But a commander of the Roman cohort intervened, laid hold of him, ordered him to be bound with chains, and inquired concerning the situation (21:31-33).

In His sovereignty the Lord caused Paul to have a dispensational transfer. Paul was in favor of such a transfer. He came to Jerusalem with the positive intention and strong purpose to help the believers there to experience this dispensational transfer. However, instead of helping them, he himself was eventually trapped in a situation of mixture and compromise. If Paul would have gone with the Nazarite ritual, it will invalide everything he said. Thus his imprisonment was of the Lord's soverighty in rescuing him.

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Nothing explaing what I asked you to read.

New Covenant rightesouness is righteousness of Faith i.e believing.

21 But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,…

This righteousness doesn't come from law keeping. Get your theology right. the phrase "apart" from the mean it doesn't from the law or NOT through the law.

As for the phrase "Lord Lord" that is refering to different dispensation, it's refering to the time after rapture where the dispensation of Grace is no more.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 11 2019, 10:00 PM

yeah. So was the Lord Jesus.

HEBREWS.6:1-8 (NKJV) = The Peril of Not Progressing

6 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.
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Since the Protestant Reformation in the mid-1500s, justification for salvation from hell by faith in Jesus Christ and not by the keeping of the Law, is well-known among Christians, especially the Protestants. It is a basic elementary doctrine and Christians should not be obsessed about this elementary doctrine but instead gradually progress to perfection = finish the race, endure until the end and always keep the faith.
....... This is true especially for new Gentile Christians who had formerly led lawless or wild lives from childhood as Gentiles = they need to gradually learn to keep the non-burdensome or essential parts of God's laws in the Old Testament so that the Holy Spirit of God can implant such laws in their hearts and minds and empower them to walk in the Spirit/Word/Law. This is to enable them to do well on earth and progress to perfection. Otherwise, they will likely go and commit ignorant sins wilfully = end up worse than before, eg calamity/cancer-stricken, and may eventually lose faith and salvation. IOW, grow and graduate from elementary school to secondaty school and finally to college/university.
....... Eg, there are ignorant Christians who go and foolishly break God's non-burdensome law at DEUT.18:9-14 by consulting horoscope, blood-type personality forecasts, tarot-cards, psychics, fortune-tellers, palm-readers, dream-catchers, ouija-boards, etc = consulting the false prophets/agents/mediums of Satan = will be afflicted with hearing and/or speech disorders - MARK.7:32.
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God speaking His Word to Adam, Abraham and Moses is the same as Jesus Christ(= God-in-the-flesh) speaking His Word to Peter, John and Paul. Hence, believing in His Son, Jesus Christ, in the New Covenant is the same as believing in His Word/Law in the Old Covenant. Vice versa, not believing in His Word/Law in the Old Testament = not believing in His Son, Jesus Christ, who is also the Word, in the NT. If an ignorant Christian continues in his/her unbelief of His Word/Law in the OT and dies, he/she will be equated as not believing in Jesus Christ and will not be saved from hell. That is why NT Scriptures often warn Christians against loss of salvation through lawlessness or willful sins.

The only difference between believing in His Son and in His Word/Law is the resultant blessings from God, ie believing in His Son, Jesus Christ, in the NT = will be saved from hell when one dies or is raptured = inherits eternal life in the kingdom of God in heaven; ...and believing in His Word/Law in the OT and keeping the Law = will be saved from calamities and terrors on earth = gain a good and long life on earth.

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JOHN.1:18 & 5:37, EXODUS.33:20 said that no one has seen the actual form or face of God. That's because God abides in heaven and not on earth. His throne is in heaven, not on earth - EZEK.1 and REV.4.
....... To save Man from hell, the God of heaven had set up His plan and endeavoured to come down to earth from heaven, appearing to Man on earth in lesser forms = as His Holy Spirit in invisible form and/or as His Son, Jesus Christ, in visible form. How did God do that.? The Holy Trinity is beyond human comprehension.

A good analogy of the Holy Trinity is the sun in outer space, her visible light(= UV rays) and her invisible warmth(= infra-red rays) on earth. How does the sun do that.? This solar trinity is also beyond human comprehension.

Good day.