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post Oct 9 2019, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 03:44 PM)
To offend or to transgress is the same meaning as to sin. What are you trying to say?

One is not culpable of sin if one is ignorant of the law.

Again, I'm still waiting.
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As what it is...the law was brought in so that sin may abound.

What I'm trying to say? not me but scripture says the design of the law = to increase sin.

That's what it is, though it may sound contradictory to you, it doesn't to me.

That is precisely why I look to Christ and not to OT God's Law.


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post Oct 9 2019, 03:58 PM

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Just would like to add one more thing.
If one really wants to "try his best". Instead of buying insurance, he should take care of his health. That's the best way of "trying" your best.
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post Oct 9 2019, 03:59 PM

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Would appreciate if you dupe accounts would stop this charade.
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2019, 03:52 PM)
You say in Christ of course but you use the phrase initial grace meaning Christ only give you starting grace, after that it's all on your own. Where is the hope after that? Seems to be geared towards ownself rather than on Christ.
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Did you read? If only initial grace, why pray and ask? Come on.


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post Oct 9 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 04:00 PM)
Did you read? If only initial grace, why pray and ask? Come on.
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Sorry don't understand your question.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2019, 04:03 PM)
Sorry don't understand your question.
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God grants the initial grace. We have to cooperate, and we have to ask for more graces. i.e. through prayer and the sacraments.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 04:08 PM)
God grants the initial grace. We have to cooperate, and we have to ask for more graces. i.e. through prayer and the sacraments.
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Oh I see. Where does scripture says that?
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2019, 03:55 PM)
As what it is...the law was brought in so that sin may abound.

What I'm trying to say? not me but scripture says the design of the law = to increase sin.

That's what it is, though it may sound contradictory to you, it doesn't to me.

That is precisely why I look to Christ and not to OT God's Law.
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So are you saying God is the cause of sin by giving the Law?
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 04:10 PM)
So are you saying God is the cause of sin by giving the Law?
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No, God is telling you...you cannot measure up no matter how you try.

His Law will prove that to be right.
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2019, 04:11 PM)
No, God is telling you...you cannot measure up no matter how you try.

His Law will prove that to be right.
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So St Paul was wrong when he said "I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me" even if that means fulfilling the Law with the grace of God?

So don't need to fight the good fight of the faith. Just be lazy ya?

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post Oct 9 2019, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 04:17 PM)
So St Paul was wrong when he said "I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me" even if that means fulfilling the Law with the grace of God?
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Look at the context

Philippians 4:10-13
10 Now I rejoice greatly in the Lord that at last you have revived your concern for me. You were indeed concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it. 11 I am not saying this out of need, for I have learned to be content regardless of my circumstances. 12 I know how to live humbly, and I know how to abound. I am accustomed to any and every situation—to being filled and being hungry, to having plenty and having need. 13 I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength.


Talking about the physicality challenges.

The whole point of the new covenant is to look away from the OT Law and look to Christ as the anchor point where there is Grace, no more the law.

Look, nobody in here is suggesting that you go ahead and sin. Just give it a rest, it's that part where people put words into my mouth not giving the chance to try to understand what I'm trying to explain.
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:52 PM

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when i posted here yesterday, there were 6 pages. Now, it's 10!
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post Oct 9 2019, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2019, 04:33 PM)
Look at the context

Philippians 4:10-13
10 Now I rejoice greatly in the Lord that at last you have revived your concern for me. You were indeed concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it. 11 I am not saying this out of need, for I have learned to be content regardless of my circumstances. 12 I know how to live humbly, and I know how to abound. I am accustomed to any and every situation—to being filled and being hungry, to having plenty and having need. 13 I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength.
Talking about the physicality challenges.

The whole point of the new covenant is to look away from the OT Law and look to Christ as the anchor point where there is Grace, no more the law.

Look, nobody in here is suggesting that you go ahead and sin. Just give it a rest, it's that part where people put words into my mouth not giving the chance to try to understand what I'm trying to explain.
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Physical challenges are indeed challenges. But even sin can be committed both physically or mentally. Are the apostles not humans too and can be tempted to sin?

If the 10 Commandments are to be forgotten, how does one know what right or wrong anymore? Or are you saying Christians don't sin at all after believing? This is where your position is problematic.

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post Oct 9 2019, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Oct 9 2019, 05:03 PM)
Physical challenges are indeed challenges. But even sin can be committed both physically or mentally. Are the apostles not humans too and can be tempted to sin?

If the 10 Commandments are to be forgotten, how does one know what right or wrong anymore? Or are you saying Christians don't sin at all after believing? This is where your position is problematic.
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Oh yeah?! Then how do you keep this one -----> £ Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy £
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QUOTE(Alan K. @ Oct 9 2019, 05:04 PM)
Oh yeah?!  Then how do you keep this one -----> £ Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy £
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For Christians, it's Sunday.
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guys, is there any book that interprets or explain bible in more details?


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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 9 2019, 05:17 PM)
guys, is there any book that interprets or explain bible in more details?
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hello,

i read commentaries too, but sadly, human interpretation can be flawed too. Even Matthew Henry.

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post Oct 9 2019, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 9 2019, 05:17 PM)
guys, is there any book that interprets or explain bible in more details?
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Depends on whose interpretation you want to hear. LOL.
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post Oct 9 2019, 05:42 PM

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Have you ever wondered why did God make the Bible in such difficult to understand and ambiguous?
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post Oct 9 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 9 2019, 05:42 PM)
Have you ever wondered why did God make the Bible in such difficult to understand and ambiguous?
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Its difficult and ambiguous only to those who does not love Him. However those who truly loves Him, the Holy Bible is no longer difficult nor ambiguous. If I should be brave to add, not only the Holy Bible but anything one sets ones heart unto. 😊

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