just add the top cabinet will do

Dear sifus , would like to run a quick fact check about a received quotation.

Below are quoted with plywood materials

1. Kitchen Cabinet (11ftx2ft) For Base Unit + Wall Unit With Partially Cut Off For Shelving = RM7,200
2. Wardrobe (6ftx8ft) Up To Ceiling Height = RM3,600
3. TV Console (10ft) = RM2,500
4. Bedhead With 2 Side Table (13ft Length x 3ft Height) =RM3,200
5. Living Hall Display Cabinet (3ft Length x 8 ft Height) = RM1,700
6. Island Top Structure (3.5ft Length x 2.5ft Width x 3ft Height) =RM4,200


What do you think?

Hi Everyone,

I'm renovating my condo in 1BU and have quite extensive cabinetry / carpentry work i want to do.

Got a quotation from Tivolli design and Homa Kitchen and considering between the two but also want to hear if there are any other strong recommendations.
Am looking at

a. Dining room cabinet full height x 12ft
b. TV Cabinet width 8ft
c. Master Bedroom L shape cabinet full height- 14 ft
d. 3rd Bedroom cabinet full height x 8 ft
e. Kitchen - L shape 16ft base unit, 10 ft wall cabinet full height, Island 6ft x 3ft, Wet kitchen 7ft base unit + 7ft wall cabinet full height (including sink, oven, hood and hob) - all melamine material + quartz top. Sink area added pvc foamboard

Quotations received

1. Tivolli DesignTivolli Design = ~RM52k (currently got 15% + 5% discount from 62k). THey have lifetime warranty, but dunno what the warranty covers. Designs are decent but not super inspiring but they provide FOC ID for certain areas for quotations over 40k

2. Homa KitchenHoma Kitchen = ~RM49.5k (currently got gold package promo) all the above included - only diff master bedroom wardrobe only 10ft, but open walk in, with dresser table and barn door. In package got extra 4ft full heigh shoe cabinet. And installation comes with all the lighting as well. Their design are quite nice (maybe they take better photos) but downside is their warranty only 1 year


Anyone got any good or bad review or advise on the above? Also, if you have a more affordable and good quality vendor i can get a quotation from? Is melamine kitchen okay for my price range? or should go for better materials?

my priorities are design and warranty. Budget abt 50k for all the above

My unit layout and requirements are below

Maybe can try ask quotation from Bespoke Kitchen. I have chosen them over other 5 vendors (Welco/Legend/Unity etc) due to cost & good reviews. But due to MCO, yet to install, so I can't share my personal review yet

Hi, did u install kompacplus countertop at last? If yes, can u share more on your using experience? How much it cost per foot run?

Hi, does anyone have experience with kompacplus countertop? I hv seen video kompacplus countertop can sustain high heat for example like putting a boiling stainless steel pot on top of countertop, direct contact with fire flame & even can do cutting on top. Being attracted of its easy maintenance quality & the price is cheaper than quartz stone. However, im not sure about the sustainability..hope to hear from u guys. TQ

Hi guys, need some advice regarding wiring
I bought a built in oven for my cabinet, and it doesn't come with plug head
Is it safe if i use normal 13A plug head? Or it needs to be hard-wired? Asked the seller (Shopee) but he said need to ask contractor

Over is rated at 3000W (written inside oven)
Plug head rated max 3250W (written on packaging)

Built in oven at 3000W is running at over redline 2990W for that 13A socket. We use 230V. Officially when it does not come from factory with a 13A plug means it was not meant to be used with a 13A plug. It is meant for fixed installation. Your oven, uses as much power as a water heater so it is best to use fixed installation method using 20A-rated components that are safely in range.

You can use one of these isolators as the control for switching it on and off:
see https://s.lazada.com.my/s.dDXLo "one stop solution" coz box and all fit nicely in one. everything has its proper position and place to be.

cheaper way use the MK water heater switch (20A), add box and cable gland. Get the MK 20A switch becoz it has two terminals for joining the earth wires.

It may be possible to convert over an existing 13A wall socket to the oven's isolator.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Aug 27 2021, 03:02 AM

Hi sifu-sifu, can someone share some thoughts about this quotation below where I just got quoted by a Capenter. Carcass using plywood, KC height 8ft tall.

1. Kitchen L-11ft wall unit & base unit = RM9,900
2. Kitchen L-2ft Tall Unit = RM1,500
3. Island L-7ft x W-2.2ft = RM4,200
4. Kitchen Fridge Cabinet L x 3ft = RM1,800
5. Quartz stone kitchentop 11ft for base unit + 7ft for island = RM3,680

Above quotation included one vertical row of drawers at base unit, all soft close door, door hinges & open hole on kitchentop. Total 21k and 50% deposit needed upon confirming. Is this quotation sound reasonable?

My L shape 15+5ft aluminium cabinet which includes bottom & top units only cost 22k.

Mind if I ask is there any tall unit in your cabinet or just top and bottom unit only? It’s that being say the quotation I got is towards to the high side? Many thanks.

Nope, no tall unit but only top & bottom, top unit reach ceiling.
I'm not sure about market price but imo yeah it's high and with that price better go for aluminium cabinet, unless you prefer wood style.

This post has been edited by apalexar: Aug 28 2021, 02:24 PM

Appreciate so much for your reply. Would you mind if you could pm me a picture of your kc so I can have a better comparison but no forcing anyway.

Pmed

Fridge cabinet 900mm wide can support most two door but SBS range limiter ya. Ensure enough clearance vs the fridge you intend to buy for width and height.

Can I know what's SBS range limiter Sensei? The fridge that I intend to get is 855mm so I guess it's enough for the fridge cabinet. Thanks for highlighting that out!

Btw, what do you think about the quotation? I've made a similar layout plan in Ikea app and it cost around 12k without installations and kitchentop(So I assumed it will be around 16-17k in the end). However, I know Ikea used better quality of chipboard & hardware(compared to most of the local carpenter offer) but will it last longer than plywood that local carpenter using in long term?

Sorry, I typed on phone, it supposed to be limited. A lot of SBS fridge is wide at 900+ width.

For Ikea Metod and all non-alu kitcab in that price range the common enemy is water. It will be easier to change bits like drawer fronts and stuff from Ikea coz its standardised measurement. I have an old door from non ikea cabinet (ie the door under the sink) needing replacement but this was made in 1997 so its hard to get replacement.

Personally I use ikea metod for my own place and keep it dry, no problem.

I dont think your carpentar is using plywood .... it should be the common chipboard also. The different in prices is the thickness.

The price of plywood is more expensive than chipboard.

Btw, I never agree to a fridge cabinet in my place.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 29 2021, 10:12 AM

Alright sensei! Btw is your metod kc able to make it full ceiling height? Because I asked ikea cs previously they say they arent able to do so. So i'm thinking the way to doing it is to ask my plaster ceiling contractor to box it up before install the metod kc(if Im using ikea kc) with a minimum gap between kc and plaster box just to create that similar to 'full ceiling feel'. Is this the right way to do so, feel free to correct me if im wrong? Any opinion is appreciated!

Well, it's the word from the carpenter himself. Perhaps I shall ask him to put the black and white into the finalise quotation for better assurance?

Btw, I never agree to a fridge cabinet in my place.
Mind to elaborate more on this, sensei?

30 to 40 years ago, many cupboards are made from plywoods. I doubt one can find one now in any furniture shop.

All electrical appliances with a 'motor' running gives out heat and it needs to be well ventilated to achieve optimum operation. What more if is running non stop.

Fridge works the same as aircond outdoor unit. It needs an open space. .....why some people complain their ac is not cold even after servicing. Is nothing to do with ac sometime but the placement of outdoor unit.

If you want the fridge to last longer and have better cooling, never box it up.

All cars come with a radiator fan to cool the water during traffic congestion or at traffic light junctions. When one travel long journey, the wind and fan helps to cool the radiator to prevent over heating.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 29 2021, 12:34 PM