Nano sink explanation from sink seller but nowhere to verify

yes , it is , there will apply the glue to bond the plywood with top together

Possibly moving in to a new house. It's a barebone unit so I need to do extensive renovation. For kitchen, I previously had a local contractor but the experience has been pretty disappointing. Scratches like mad, laminate peeling, cabinets not shutting flush.

On my second property, I opted for Ikea. The experience was much straight forward and everything was itemized nicely. Spent a day to submit design, spent another day for their contractor to install. Done in 2 days, very painless. Rust marks on their stainless steel panels? A few calls and they sent someone to replace them. No problems at all for the rest, long lasting.

So this new property, I'm wondering if I should again opt for Ikea. I've been told that outside contractors are cheaper but are they really that much cheaper? And is there any renovation companies that provides 25 years warranty?

Bleno kitchen, aluminium cabinet and lifetime warranty.
Previously based in Johor and have setup their branch in Selangor this year Feb, going to have my new KC with them.

It has to be apple to apple comparison.
Sure there will be some that can do half the price of ikea metod but using elcheapo material.
As in my example comparison between 8ft kitchens, both exclude installation fee.

The ikea elcheapo series is not even 2k, thin materials etc.
The fullspec ikea metod series can cost 6-7k depending on fittings (fancy door, fancy sink, everything soft close etc).

The advantage of ikea system is that it is modular, sink cabinet wet and rotted can just change that module easily. Very user serviceable. And you know exactly what you're getting.
Since its modular, if you want to pair it with a stone top (external supplier) it is also possible.

Outside contractor I would probably trust is Signature Kitchen but their pricing is also top notch, will need to see if my kidney can sell or not.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Mar 17 2021, 08:34 PM

But are the pricing competitive? I'm curious if they will really show up if I see some tiny rusted stains on the panels...even when I was reporting it to IKEA I thought it will never happen but then they showed up lol


Very good points, it's true like if I got sick of the surface panels, I can just go to ikea and order new ones. Also about knowing exactly what you get is also very true. Everything is itemized nicely and hand picked yourself. Test out as much as you one in their showroom...

Not sure about market price so don't know if it's competitive, but would say affordable based on the KC I requested.

Here's their fb page, quite a lot good review: https://www.facebook.com/blenokitchen/

Guys, would like to have your opinion. Would you accept such kind of workmanship?
Understand that the wall is a little tilted, is there no other way to correct it during installation so it wouldn't look so obvious? Btw this is the work from s.kitchen


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I do installation for shelves. Generally the customer is made to understand the wall can be defective ie not flat, not straight, parallax error etc but we install according to spirit level cun cun and get customer to agree to accept as per spirit level flatness.

In your case - one of the shorty spirit levels should help you make your acceptance/rejection case - https://shopee.com.my/(-100-Original-)-Stan...5385.7306459093

To check whether your window is actually level you can get a cheap 80cm level. Should be sufficient.

Longer ones like 150cm with good measuring tolerance of 0.50 mm/m (0.029°) is for overall level check for the cabinet frame rail but not worth it if you don't use it.

If it is not level then ask the KC to install it to your expectation (spirit level correctness) or (relative level to the window correctness).

This post has been edited by ceo684: Mar 20 2021, 04:55 PM

What is done is already done. I am not satisfy with the outcome and I think it is very unprofessional of them for making such mistake despite they are experienced in the field. By right they should've informed me about the wall issue so I could rectify it to avoid such outcome. I understand they just want to get the job done fast and close case, maybe I have too much confidence in them, I was not around checking their work during installation. This is not what I expect from s.kitchen.

There isn't much the KC installer could do to make the problem less obvious since your wall is crooked.

But then I agree that the installer should have informed you about the crooked wall and ask you if you want to rectify the problem first before proceeding with installation. I had the same problem as yours, and my KC installation was delayed for 2-3 weeks because of the rectification of the wall itself, the modification to the cabinet to fit the new wall thickness and due to KC installer need to find new slot for me. But then they did informed me before installing and I rectified the slanted wall after that (involving some hacking & patching). The end result was perfect even with those hiccups.

Is advisable to use tiles for kitchen top?
I have seen my friends tiled kitchen top start falling. Is it a workmanship issue or tiles shouldn’t be used at all as kitchen top?

Likely workmanship issue.

The kitchen concrete top with tiles can last for life.
Quite common in Malaysia houses' wet kitchen to withstand water and heat.
In my old house, it has been there for 20 years without issue.

Of course, the look may not be suitable for everyone.
And if you decide to change it to something else in the future, the dismantling work will be messy.

my house titles table top, no prob also more than 20 years.

Definitely workmanship problem. My parents house, 29 years old, the tiles are still intact.

For the tile installation
When proper materials and proper installation methods and mixing ratios are used it should not fall off. Sand is dirt cheap, tile adhesive/PVA/susu and cement modifier are not cheap, OPC cement fairly expensive compared to sand aggregate. Incorrect ratio or cut corner mixtures usually prone to falling off issue. Also simple thing like backbuttering tiles where appropriate and not just putting 5 dots like domino pattern can make or break the quality of tile installation.

Nowadays Sika stuff readymix SikaCeram88 or thereabouts only cost 15 per 25kg bag.. or ADX also slightly cheaper to do a proper job.

For the concrete top
Appropriate rebar size and placement and concrete mix used will not fail, concrete gets harder and harder over time. Rebar should be propped up so it gets surrounded by concrete to be approx halfway of the concrete thickness i.e. not just laying on the bottom of the formwork

Hi,

Wanted to ask about payment for kitchen cabinet... Do you guys pay in full before work even started ? They claim that payment needed to be in full before sent design to factory...

I engaged two separate contractor for KC and wardrobe. But both asked the same progress payment. 50% before fabrication, 40% before installation and 10% after all defects are rectified and you sign off.

Paying full upfront is ridiculous and almost unheard of. Better look for other contractor.

This post has been edited by blanket84: Mar 27 2021, 10:13 PM

Unless they're reputable contractor/company, else high risk to lose your money there.

Unity Kitchen ... But full payment just by water mouth guarantee is looking for trouble.