Normally I would hv ignored him, but its a weekend, and I got nothing better to do, so...

Yes because you paint me as someone that agree with umno pas racist style

I have to reaffirm my stand - that while i agree with you on the instigators I dont like your attitude that simply ignore Pakatan leaders racism which is for me is much bigger problem as they are the one that should uphold the law and show bigger morale

I paint you or you paint yourself at the start?

Same circular arguments which have already been answered time and time again

As per the screenshot I made myself clear that gov leaders action on this issue are more important

I think i have repeated myself lot of times but you instead took it that I support ISMA-level actions

Just because i criticize gov leaders action doesnt mean i condone what the people do

And I think I've made it clear plenty of times you are just arguing in circles:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, then label it "salah cina/dap/ph" and you'll blame salah cina/dap/ph

This really deserves a quote of its own... really unbelievably thick face considering what was written earlier:
Some ppl just simply argue all over the place until he don't even know what he's arguing about. More example:



This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jun 2 2019, 07:23 PM

Here's further evidence why I say you're either 3R instigator or someone totally brainwashed with hate, and the reason why I said your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, and get you to blame salah cina/dap/ph. See the replies in blue

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jun 2 2019, 08:11 PM

3R? Besar mana isu dia? Aku tengok kat real life orang dok mengeluh masalah kos sara hidup, susah carik keja, .... semua blame both BN for fakkap, PH for donno setel fix thing.

Ofcoz la zaman Malaysia Baru ni, semua isu politicize lam socmed. Ini semua perception war punya pasal.

3R since 1950s until now politicize. But with socmed it becum bigger. Semua olang closet racists, there are things we simply dun discuss openly.

Yup that's the Asian way

and that's why we not as maju

Read any self-help book, any business book, any anti-addiction book, they all say the same thing; progress starts with being honest and confronting the problem

as long as we don't do it - we won't maju

and in this world, especially the modern world, if you not maju you are mundur

hayatilah

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Jun 4 2019, 12:52 AM

Whaddaya expect? 3R bukan yer traditional textbook problem.

Bukan boleh hadap terus. Negara lain isu 3R ni sampai ke civil war atau outright massacre. Ada isu kena thread very carefully.

Lets face it, 3R kat socmed ka forum ka semua jadi modal racing je. Both sides of the fence sama je.

Whaddaya expect? 3R bukan yer traditional textbook problem.

Bukan boleh hadap terus. Negara lain isu 3R ni sampai ke civil war atau outright massacre. Ada isu kena thread very carefully.

Lets face it, 3R kat socmed ka forum ka semua jadi modal racing je. Both sides of the fence sama je.

"Negara lain" - as always, we look to the worst examples to justify ourselves, rather than looking at the best examples to follow.

"Both are the same" - categorically untrue. One side wants to keep its apartheid stance, the other side wants to remove it. If we are honest, we know removing it is the key to progress, which will benefit everybody.

Although both sides may indulge in tit for tat 3R mudslinging, ultimately we know who is the real problem. We just refuse to acknowledge it.

Both sides are the same. Apa, isu matrikulasi, isu kuota IPTA, hak bumiputra. Need I say more. Apa beza stance PM4 era BN dgn stance PM7 era PH?

Kau bagitahu aku negara mana yang boleh manage isu 3R secara peaceful? Bagitahu sikit? Kat seberang tambak dulu pun riot isu 3R masa kes Natrah.

The masses need to be educated on how to use freedom.

Otherwise...

somehow I would like to play this song tonight...

[quote=bigwolf,Jun 2 2019, 07:20 PM]
And I think I've made it clear plenty of times you are just arguing in circles:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, then label it "salah cina/dap/ph" and you'll blame salah cina/dap/ph

This really deserves a quote of its own... really unbelievably thick face considering what was written earlier:
Some ppl just simply argue all over the place until he don't even know what he's arguing about. More example:

Proof that Stigonboard just simply tembak all over the place when he gets called out:

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Like i said

I dont have issue agreeing with the instigators as the wrong party - i wholly agree with you

But Ph gov action is much more important.

To catch a corrupt people, the gov need to be free of corruption

Or how you expect to catch a thief when the police also a thief?

The problem with our country is we keep repeating the same mistake

During BN days, the bn gov way to counter racism is by becoming a bigger racist

And now history repeating itself - pakatan leaders try to counter racism by becoming a bigger racist

We need the gov to stop playing the racial game by becoming the moral compass

The gov should take the moral high ground and the mature party

Let the rakyat see that Pakatan is different from BN


So yes i will repeat this over and over again and i wont stop repeating as you seems using your failure to argued against me by painting me as racist and making personal attack.


And about the national school system, you cant simply take my word without reading back my argument

If you care to read back while i felt personally multi national school system is fail system and need to be reviewed as we not exactly world beaters and no other countrie have the same system - we cannot abolish it due to the unique situation we in which is while bumi want their hak istimewa, vernacular school is kinda a fair trade back to keep the racial harmony intact.


This is your normal style eh? - you lost an argument with me then you try to paint me as racist to divert your failed argument

Cant win argument? Lets make personal attack!

Childish.

Well that is easy, since we are still actively pursuing an apartheid policy, most first world nations are better than we are.

No, both sides are not the same. One side is actively championing the use of 3R. One side is at least doing it less, even if it isn't eradicating it entirely.

Which we both know is impossible at the current state of the nation.

i just wonder what will happen to Malaysia when there is no more minorities populations, only Malays which in 100% population in future...

Wow, impressive. Now saying stop flogging a fail system and you're all for it, all in the same sentence. Impressive ability!
For reference:

And you are continuously blind and insist PH govt bears more responsibility when I've shown you again and again it does not benefit PH to instigate 3R back at itself (stupid no?), and you are brainwashed (or part of the 3R cybertroopers) to blame PH.

Paint you racist to divert argument? Why do I need to do that when I've been calling you either a 3R cybertrooper or someone totally brainwashed with hate all these while? Can't win argument, simply argue all over the place again?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Jun 4 2019, 08:58 AM

The govt needs to start cracking down on these instigators. Thats why for the life of me I can't understand why, if they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special unit to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15, and lose not even from incompetence but from racial & sectarian hate?

Im all for facts instead of emotion

While i personally believe single national school like in SG is much better as we not exactly world beaters our current social and political situation means the current system is all to stay and i have no issue with it.

You gave argument that Pakatan is not racist 'as it doesnt bring benefits'

Of course

But when they utter the racist word they dont think clearly and only follow emotion that it only bring harm to them

And every single time Tun M had to sweep their mistakes.

Thats show how stupid the current leaders now.

They no different from the old gov

Yep you try to divert when you cant argued with facts.
Did i ever call you as cybertrooper even you show tendency to protect your master? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever call you instigator when you clearly back the racist action of your dear leaders? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever trawl your post in totally different topics to tarnish your name? Nope i stick with the current topic

So yeah you try to divert every single time.