I think there is ton of issue raised by oppo is more related to economy, judicial and election promises

You can see the Najib and Wee Ka Siong pages

The one that raised 3R issue is the pakatan gov themselves like Maszlee coz they want to divert their government failure

Also ppl P Ramasamy and the latest LKS himself

Scrared shit to debate with Najib then say dont want it to be 'racial' when Najib never start about it

Scared of new airport in Kedah, P Ramasamy say this is plan to oppress 'chinese' Penang

Scared of Umno and Pas allliance, LGE say it is 'declaration of war agains non-malay'

Got illegal temple demolished by developer all Indian Pakatan make press conference say this is caused by 'muslim' gangster

Gov scared of Adib issue case will caused 'race riot' , try to supress and delay the truth

Scared of matriculation issue , maszlee blame chinese for private sector job oppurtunities for bumi

Then gov supporters like you hike up the 3r issue like this thread

So who are the one that love play fire?

Pathetic

For me social media provokers is not the real issue

The one that love playing 3R now is the gov ppl themselves

You didnt answer my facts

All the example i given is from pakatan so called gov leadership

How you expect ppl to behave if their own gov leaders playing with fire too?

Hypocrites

When i mention the pakatan leaders fault you just dismissed them easily

You harping back with the 'instigators' while didnt acknowledge that the leaders themselves play with fire too

You cant clap hands with just one hand you know

I didnt say what you say is wrong - i just pointing out why you didnt acknowledge that the gov leaders do the same thing too

You didnt get what i mean

I never said umno and pas cybertroopers didnt do it

I said why even Pakatan leaders are joining in the 3R game when we expect the gov to be the cool head instead of involved in the 3R game

Gov leader should aware that their racial statement will only bring racial reaction
They should be smarter right?


Comprehend?

This post has been edited by Stigonboard: May 29 2019, 11:32 PM

Nope i said it lot of times Umno pas cybertroopers playing the game as usual - please read back my last 3 post

But it seems you only ignore and just say screw it if it involved pakatan leaders

Ok the troopers find fault and instigate

But why Pakatan leaders incite it first? Why they give free ammunition to the troopers?

Answer me

They should be different from trooper goons but why they playing the same game

If the leaders stop maybe the troopers wont have easy bullet anymore?

Pakatan leaders should take the moral high ground as they should be the better side

Not starting the fire

You said:

"We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm"


Further approved the current gov stupid and maybe purposely playing with fire?

- You stupid? LKS is the one that give excuse the debate will become racial, no one suggested it earlier. He is being chicken and then play racial

- since when bahasa kebangsaan become racial? LGE made mistake when he as gov servant didnt follow rules of using bahasa kebangsaan
This is language for malaysians for all malaysians
Stupid people like you are the one making malaysian issue become racial

- same as above. Stupid

- Zakat is one of god instruction for muslims to give their money to other muslims. Why DAP politician dip their hands into it?
Its like you bring your son to church be blessed by priest but a malay BN politician said its ok give me the baby i will bless them
This is not racial issue
But being stupid and ignorance

And you arev stupid and ignorance that all of this racial issue wont happen if DAP leaders learn about being Malaysian and not give free ammunition to racist in the first place

This post has been edited by Stigonboard: Jun 1 2019, 02:24 PM

Why you still giving example of pas and umno?
Like i said i agreed with you that they playing racial issue
So dont waste your time when we both here agreed on this.

Now back to the MAIN issue

My problem is the gov being stupid to realise that they also playing racial issue - they too stupid and then too stupid that they need Tun M to douse the fire every single time

LKS chicken out of debate then play racial issue
LGE making racial statement ppl in umno and pas out to become enemy non muslim
P Ramasamy say kedah airport is malay state to screw chinese state
Maszlee play with job being racial issue
Nga involved in religion stuff like giving politic speech in mosque and zakat issue

And many more

And i guess their IQ is the same as you here

Being ignorant and forgot as gov leaders they should provide example and not starting a fire

Stupid

'Purposely finding fault'

Ok, so you saying LGE, LKS, Maszlee statements that I point out is nothing ?

Answer me here

Of course in more outrage at PH leaders

They should be the one setting example

They should be more intelligent

They should be more aware

Umno and Pas will always playing with fire but pakatan leaders are making it easy for them

Its like they starting a fire and pakatan as the fireman giving them the petrol and matches

You expect the 'fireman' to douse and prevent the fire not helping starting the fire

Thats why im angry with them

Hahhahahahahha

Maszlee is just 'storm in a teacup'

Did you realise what you claiming here?

He is not stupid

He purposely giving the statement so that the non malays shut up and dont ask about the racial policy like thevmatriculation issue

And being a gov servant his word and action is much more greater than the normal ppl

First you need to differentiate

Bagi salam being make racial of coz i agree with you the instigator is the guilty party

But the mistakes done by Pakatan gov leaders is not just a 'normal' issue

It is a BIG mistake

Since when im being prejudiced?

Like i said i agree with you that umno and pas being racial fuk scum
There you go!

But im talking about gov leaders being the same like umno and pas when they should not

Let me dumb down the analogy for your level :

If you wanna catch a corrupt person, you need to ensurse the police is not corrupt too

The police is the MOST important piece in eradicating the issue as they are the one keeping order and implement the law

But what will happen if the police ALSO corrupt?


Yep the country is in ruin!


The 'police' in my analogy is the Pakatan leader

This is what happen to our country now in term of racial issue

Instead of being the better person as gov leaders they joining in the racial game too

In the end umno and pas rejoice coz pakatan leaders is helping their cause

Of coz they need to be put in higher level

You will expect a police to be morally better and not corrupted than normal person right?

A leader to be morally better, more intelligent than normal ppl right?

To eradicate an issue you need the authority to be in higher level in term of moral and intelligence

But Pakatan as gov leaders doesnt show it

No wonder Mahathir complain about his ministers

Oh mah god

Like i said i agreed with you on your points about the instigators

But at the same time i also want to highlight that Pakatan gov leaders also need to be blame as they are playing racial game too

You comprehend English or not?

Like i said both are issues - the gov and oppo supporters

But im standing with what i said earlier

The biggest problem is PH gov leader that instead of being the moral standard they lower their standard and play the same game that oppo love

Yes because you paint me as someone that agree with umno pas racist style

I have to reaffirm my stand - that while i agree with you on the instigators I dont like your attitude that simply ignore Pakatan leaders racism which is for me is much bigger problem as they are the one that should uphold the law and show bigger morale

As per the screenshot I made myself clear that gov leaders action on this issue are more important

I think i have repeated myself lot of times but you instead took it that I support ISMA-level actions

Just because i criticize gov leaders action doesnt mean i condone what the people do

[quote=bigwolf,Jun 2 2019, 07:20 PM]
And I think I've made it clear plenty of times you are just arguing in circles:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, then label it "salah cina/dap/ph" and you'll blame salah cina/dap/ph

This really deserves a quote of its own... really unbelievably thick face considering what was written earlier:
Some ppl just simply argue all over the place until he don't even know what he's arguing about. More example:

Proof that Stigonboard just simply tembak all over the place when he gets called out:

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Like i said

I dont have issue agreeing with the instigators as the wrong party - i wholly agree with you

But Ph gov action is much more important.

To catch a corrupt people, the gov need to be free of corruption

Or how you expect to catch a thief when the police also a thief?

The problem with our country is we keep repeating the same mistake

During BN days, the bn gov way to counter racism is by becoming a bigger racist

And now history repeating itself - pakatan leaders try to counter racism by becoming a bigger racist

We need the gov to stop playing the racial game by becoming the moral compass

The gov should take the moral high ground and the mature party

Let the rakyat see that Pakatan is different from BN


So yes i will repeat this over and over again and i wont stop repeating as you seems using your failure to argued against me by painting me as racist and making personal attack.


And about the national school system, you cant simply take my word without reading back my argument

If you care to read back while i felt personally multi national school system is fail system and need to be reviewed as we not exactly world beaters and no other countrie have the same system - we cannot abolish it due to the unique situation we in which is while bumi want their hak istimewa, vernacular school is kinda a fair trade back to keep the racial harmony intact.


This is your normal style eh? - you lost an argument with me then you try to paint me as racist to divert your failed argument

Cant win argument? Lets make personal attack!

Childish.

Im all for facts instead of emotion

While i personally believe single national school like in SG is much better as we not exactly world beaters our current social and political situation means the current system is all to stay and i have no issue with it.

You gave argument that Pakatan is not racist 'as it doesnt bring benefits'

Of course

But when they utter the racist word they dont think clearly and only follow emotion that it only bring harm to them

And every single time Tun M had to sweep their mistakes.

Thats show how stupid the current leaders now.

They no different from the old gov

Yep you try to divert when you cant argued with facts.
Did i ever call you as cybertrooper even you show tendency to protect your master? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever call you instigator when you clearly back the racist action of your dear leaders? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever trawl your post in totally different topics to tarnish your name? Nope i stick with the current topic

So yeah you try to divert every single time.

Yep the current system doesnt show any inklings that we are world beaters so personally i prefer SG national school system

But the reality is the communities will not allow that to happen so im ok with it - im all for racial harmony.


It become circles coz you kept diverting the issue and i have to keep it on track
So this time i wont repeat myself as you seems put the brakes too this time.