All habitrail tubes (ovo, safari, mini, space station, etc) can connect to each other...

Looks like we all have been outdated... I must edit the part for Winter Whites now hahahah.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_White_...n_Dwarf_Hamster

new info there.. i saw a WW in a tank at 1U petshop got an injured on its head maybe coz of fighting..
if i bring extra money,i'll buy that pity little hammy at that time..
but some WW did well living together rite..?

Better change it before some new people read it then doom. xD

How much is prestige? I only want the best for hairy friends!

around rm17 - 18..

I just bought exercise ball for MoFo it also comes with a stand so I put it in a cage to replace his wheel. It's about the same size with his old wheel but since it's round, it fits him better than the wheel with the potruding pin thingy in the middle. He was so happy I think haha, keep playing with his ball (LOL). Here a pic:



I'm thinking of buying the bath sand and potty sand and renovate his hs, might add another tank, hehe Qs:

1. Will he knows how to peepee and poopoo inside the litter sand?
2. Also on the bath sand, no need teach?
3. Can tubes be attached to the tank? Can see the round hole on the tank top. Suggestion where to buy tubes, good but cheap

Thanks people!

just wondering, does he can enter the ball himself??

if we want our hamsters poo and pee in the toilet, so we have to train them..
maybe you can try this way, by putting some of their pee and poo in the toilet as a beginning.. usually hamster pee in one place.. but poo another story..

you can attach tubes to your tank..
(see this page post #2016)..
you can ask her more la..

This post has been edited by dien: Dec 15 2007, 03:40 PM

My Jack Jack know how to pee in the bowl that we gave him with toilet sand in it. initially, he like to sleep inside the bowl with the sand together, but now, he only pee inside. Poo, still everywhere, can't help it. They'll pee at one place only.

Suggest you to buy tubes from habitrial. Can get the habitrial ovo tubes or safari tubes, cos MoFo is big like Jack Jack, only this 2 types of tubes can go through. We put tubes for my 2 robos (Jery and Remy) from the 2 feet tank and connected to the loaf on top of the tank. We didn't put tubes for Jack Jack as he'll climb the tubes up to the lid and bite the lid cover, they are smart boys. Thats why we are using Hagen ZooZone 2 for Jack Jack. Look for 2nd hand tubes, cheaper. The new ones are selling per piece, and you need the connector to connect the tubes. So, it's costly.

Sand bath, hmm... Jack Jack don't like sand bath. We gave him before and he end up mess the whole place with the bathing sand but digging it out from the bowl. Maybe you can try, maybe your MoFo will like it.

1. I can tell that JackJack poopoo everywhere. Not only in the toilet bowl setup for him. He poopoo and eat at the same place. Sleep there too...
2. I remember seeing someone's pic of a syrian poopoo in the toilet setup. Think can train.
3. You can cut away the 2 small holes cover on the lid. I have setup with Habitrail mini's tubes for my robos, Remy & Jery. So I think you can get Habitrail Safari, Playground or OVO's tubes as they are big enough for syrians. But cleaning will be troublesome for the tubes and take long time as the hamsters will sleep, poopoo and pee inside... Junnie87 is selling new hamster stuffs "click here". I think she is from PetShack as the pictures looks like taken in front of PetShack.

If you can buy a bigger tank like the Hagen Zoozone1 or Zoozone2.

Zoozone1

Zoozone2

This the email from Hagen Malaysia about where to buy Hagen products. Hagen is also the manufacturer for Habitrail products.


JackJack, Remy & Jery is me and sangels' hamsters. But sangles is the one keeping in her house...

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Dec 15 2007, 04:23 PM

Hehe he can... they are pretty smart.. I am amused actually! Hahah... he squeezed his way in, usually do funny things like going in the hole above than the easy one below... He peed in his old wheels before... but he hasnt in the new ball... maybe he likes it too much too pee in it, lol! Now I can't detect where he peed, the dried alfafa (an looking at the tonnes I put inside) covers the smell... but poo, yeah... he pooed everywhere, inside his lil house also, next to his stashed kuachi. Sigh...

It's so funny when I put him inside the ball and let him loose around the house, haha! Super cute and funny... I can't stop laughing, he walks around with his fat arse left and right, hahahaha!

P.S. My dwarfs run, pee and poo at the same time.

@sangels & blurjoey
Hmm, I will check the tubes and the threads u show I am thinking of getting a smaller/larger tank, put the tubes, put the tank above/below the current one (depending which one is larger)... so that MoFo could have like 2 story condo, teehehe. The new tank (if smaller) will be his pee & bath area... hmmm.. but the zoozone niceeeeee

I hope he likes to take bath, well at least pee at one place cos the pee is the one that smells bad my dwarfs smell WORSE! Why ah? Their pee stinks to the highest heaven,

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 15 2007, 07:58 PM

missgeek,
previously i heard some of our sifus said..
syrian acvtually dont really need sand bath..bcoz they can groom themselve
experienced people said, syrian will only dig dig the sand bath...will not rolling in it like dwarf hamsters did

Hmm.... You must be getting your ideas from hamsterhideout.com, we thought of doing that also, but come to think of the cleaning part, already tired with the cleaning for 2 tanks and all the tubes and accessories using for our 3 hammies.

I wonder if MoFo will go pee and poo in the 2nd floor in his new condo??? hahaha...

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Added on December 16, 2007, 12:37 amYou have your point. Jack Jack never roll in the bathing sand. He trying to stay away instead. But he 'comb' himself everyday... look super cute whenever he doing that and I'll just stay and look at him.

This post has been edited by sangels: Dec 16 2007, 12:37 AM

Hmm.. then no need la.. I realised also MoFo licking himself like crazy, look so vain and cute, hahahaha... OK! I will not get the sand bath lor.

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Added on December 16, 2007, 4:15 pmHahahahaha, I wonder about it too, haha. But if he really only pee at one place he would I think? Or put the pee place near his little house cos usually he do his stuff right after he wakes up... and upstairs put stuff like the wheel, toys...

I have a Q.. I realised the spot he always peed on. It's the same spot BUT UNFORTUNATELY this spot is right under his water bottle... of all the places he wants to pee la right? If i put the sand there, then would be ma fan for him to drink. So, my Q... if I clean the tank, wash it etc etc... will he remember to pee at that place again ah?


This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 16 2007, 04:15 PM

Syrians do not produce excess oils like dwarf hamsters, so there is no need for a sand bath. Of all hamsters, I can personally say Syrians are the cleanest when it comes to grooming themselves and they smell less unless on heat.

All hamster will poop whenever and wherever they like, peeing is always at one spot.

To get rid of the pee smell and also dried stains, soak the pee area with White Vinegar(can get at supermarket). The best is soak it overnight. Then the next day wash the whole cage with soap and water. Then it's Clean!

Ahah! Will do that! The same spot my dwarfs pee are in the wheel... geeeez! Will have to do the same with the wheel then.
Thanks crazymouse!

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Added on December 16, 2007, 11:17 pmHmm... one more thing... MoFo is ok now, he is no longer cautious or terkejut with my hands in the cage or petting him... mayb one or two time when I caught him off guard. but he's a sweet boy, he didnt attempt to bite, just move away.

But he sleeps a lot.. during the day I understand, but he only wakes up around 10pm... and play for a while.. then sleep again... he doesnt look sick, no discharge, clear eyes, no wet tail... body temp is normal (well, he's not hot, just same like I first got him anyway)..

Is this normal? or is he unhappy? He's only 'alive' when I take him out, play on my palm or let him roam on my bed, hehe. Or is it because he's old? PS told me he's 5 mths... maybe he missed his bro in the cage? They were 2 of them in the tank when I got him... but syrian supposed to be solitary, right?

PS.: I do think he got into a fight before, there we blood on one of his finger I think one finger is half gone.... poor boy!

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 16 2007, 11:17 PM

Here is JackJack zoozone2 after cleanup... Also the 2 feet tank for Jery & Remy after cleaning also. Took out the tubes as was unable to put nicely without some shaped tubes.

Also JackJack in the toilet bowl 'merajuk' after we clean his zoozone2

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Added on December 16, 2007, 11:55 pmMissgeek,

This is normal as JackJack also sleeps during the day & night unless we play with him or take him out of the zoozone2. But he will run the wheel and eat during the wee hours in the morning...

He is now sleeping in the toilet bowl but he was very active when we took him out while cleaning the zoozone2.

This post has been edited by sangels: Dec 16 2007, 11:55 PM


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sleeping in the toilet..haha..

I have a question about my hamsters - Ryuuk and Rem. They have been with me for a year now since they were babies.

For the past couple of weeks, both of them have been fighting like mad and it's bloody. The first brutal fight I witnessed was when Ryuuk bit Rem near the neck and it was bleeding. I thought Ryuuk was culprit because he is scared of people touching him and will pounce on your finger and bite if you try to touch him.

But I was wrong, it seems Rem is the culprit because I started noticing that Rem is always initiating the fights and chasing Ryuuk around in the cage.

Now I have seperated them and both of them have scars because of the fight.

I would like to know why Rem has become so brutal and disliking Rem so much. Before this, they were ok. Although they did fight, but only for a couple of seconds then everything's back to normal with both of them sleeping beside each other. Now they can't even stay in the same cage. Is it some mid-life crisis thing because they are a year old now.

Thanks.

Jery & Remy is also sleeping in the corner toilet if you look at the 2 feet tank on the left.