Hi evryone and sifus!
I need some advice I just got 2 dwarf hamsters last weekend. I was told they are WW but after much research and reading, I think one is hybrid and one is a possible WW Pearl. Out of stupidity, I got a pair, which I sorely regret because I don't want to breed them at all!!! Sigh. I am worried now but I don't want to part with them, they are the cutest thing ever!!!

But then, I read that WW Pearl cud be infertile and I know this sound like harsh but I really pray that it will be infertile for his own good (also for my own good). Or maybe both are females because I don't know how to see, but the seller said they are a pair. So here is a picture, can the sifu tell is he a WW Pearl? The other one is a definite hybrid right, Winter Gold? Or maybe both also hybrid?




I also love the syrian. Someone adviced me that I shud get a syrian instead of dwarfs. I never had any experience with hamsters only helping out friends and admiring from far. But now that I got two of this baby, I can't wait to get home from work! Their temperament is great, no biting... maybe because they are still small. I also learning to tame them by touching them everyday... at least now they take treats for me and I hope that is a good sign.

I also just bought a nice house for them some Japanese brand. I wanted to buy Habitrail Mini but I thot this one is more spacious and bit cool, hehe.



I'm feeding them fresh fruits and Prestige Hamster Mix. For chewing I'm giving them dried alfafa. I'm using pine shaving, hmmm don't remember the brand but it's sold evrywhere. They seemed to like it and bury themselves inside it when they sleep until I was really worried last night cos I thot they got out, haha.

Advices are very much appreciated!

Addendum:
Forgot to tell their names, hehe.
The supposed Pearl is MOMO
The Winter Gold is FUFU

This post has been edited by missgeek: Nov 21 2007, 07:34 PM

have to give one away? Sob sob. Will check their sex when they are a bit older, they are really really small... size like small cotton ball only. I think I will separate them instead of give one away la... so sad want to give away, already love them.

Hmmm is the other one WW Pearl? Momo looks very similar to the ones in the pics I google tho...

Ok, will give them veggies and fruits with fiber

The pine bedding I use is Living World by Hagen. I thot it's a good brand? It's the same brand that produced Habitrail. It is ok or will harm my babies?

Haiya, so sien, kena tipu already la like this Got it in a package together with the hamsters. Nevermind la, will change it tomorrow. Will go buy the suggested bedding Thanks!

Hi guys... I got good news!
Remember when I thought my hamsters are 1 pair and I need to separate them? Now they both are fat fat hammies already and can see the sex!
Yeay!! Both are males... phew! Can see their tiny balls and also the holes are far apart, which means they are both males! So happy, hahaha! Now I dont have to separate them or give them away! Yeay yeay!

Anyway, will they fight later? So far since they have been together since they were 2 weeks old, they never fight... the play and sleep together.. my Winter Gold / Puding is larger than my WW Pearl... is this normal? I read that WW is smaller than campbell... and since Puding is a hybrid, that means it is logical that he is larger than my WW Pearl right?

Oh, just incase I havent told you guys their name... Puding is FUFU and WW Pearl is MOMO...
Here are the pics of them, fatso sooooo cute!



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I am thinking of getting a syrian hamster from that petshop in Sunway Mentari, u guys been talking about... but I have a few Qs:

1. Is is a good idea? I dont have other pets than the 2 dwarfs. I am single and live alone.
2. If I decided to get it, is male or female more manja and better to handle?
3. Can we bring syrian hamster to go jalan2? for example to hang out at starbucks or something? Will it stress them?
4. Hmm last but not least, syrian is more tame than dwarf right? I want a pet I can handle all the times without stressing them or me! I handle my dwarfs on daily basis, but they are still bit fast and cautious all the times



This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 12 2007, 02:56 AM

Heheh, yeah they so cute hor hahahah funny little fella also... first time own hamster actually, before this just kepochi with friend's hamsters
I got them at the curve... weekends they have that market right? sell clothes, handbags etc... one stalls sells hamsters and sugar glider... but they do sell very young lor... I got mine at 2 weeks old only, so so so small.

I was told that I shud get syrian if I am first timer hamster owner leh... but then not hard taking care of these 2 little monkeys, hahah. They are not biters too... I hope they stay that way because I am scared with the hamsters that bites... ouch! Syrian bites ah? Haiyaaaaaa... scared leh. I heard that petshop in Sunway Mentari sell tame syrian? And syrian once tame, they will forever be tame, right?

Yeah la, never see also ppl bring their hamster to walk-walk hahahah... not that I dont want dogs or cats.. but they are harder to take care mah.... I dont think I have time for cats, let alone dogs need to bring walk-walk all... I worked late everyday

P.S: Hmmm... another Q.. Syrian or Guinea Pigs? I love Guinea pigs also... haha last time when I was in primary, my school got guinea pigs at our science garden, hahahaha!

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Added on December 12, 2007, 1:13 pmOoh! Same case also like my two lil furry monkeys. When I put them in this small wired cage, usually when I am cleaning their main house... they start to bite the cages and hanging like monkeys... really funny. hahahah... they bite here and there... do acrobats all...
But when I put them back to their main house they stop doing that.... my conclusion is, the space in the wired cage is very small.. well, the one I have is indeed very small... and I think they thought they could escape or something because it's all wired and they can see the outside world... their main house is half wired and half plastic wall, the typical Japanese made hamsters house.

In your case, does the new house smaller? Or the new house has more wired walls than the old house? I think apart from their curiosity, they really thot they could escape hahahahah! Funny la they all... hahahahah

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 12 2007, 01:13 PM

I put my hamster mix in the transparent container, the normal one you see sell can put in microwave one... I store it my cabinet, with the rest of my dry food storage. Just make sure the cabinet is far from source of water and dampness la... if not your hamster food sure kulat one... put in fridge also good, that one confirm fresh lor... opened package biscuits also I put in fridge heheh, sure tak masuk angin and crunchy

Hmmm so far mine is ok tuck away in my kitchen cabinet better put in container la at least.. semut also tak masuk mah.

Hehehehehehe.... Introducing, MoFo my boy!
Went to SP after work and got him. He's quite tame, a bit cautios which is normal I was told. What I need to do is to handle him on daily basis to let him get accustomed to my smell I am sooooo happy. Being a noobs in hamster, I REALLY REALLY REALLY shud have got a syrian last time and not the dwarfs It is so different, being a wussy as I am, scared of being bitten and all, I shud have taken a syrian instead... what a charming lil boy!!!!!! Sigh. I am thinking of letting my WW for adoption... I can handle them alright but not as easy as I handle MoFo the syrian... how ah? I feel so bad.

Anyway, MoFo is 5 mths old according to PS. He is white banded (right?), I know he looks the same like other syrians but he has this 3 dots at his back, hehe. SP currently only have 6 syrians, 1 female and 5 males. Is him too old? She said he is already at his peak size, cannot grow any bigger... but I am determine to grow him sideways, hehehehehehe... now he's sleeping in the red roof house (as in the pic below) he's a cute fella, very shy and cautious but he never bite (yet) and OMG, I am so jakun cos I can handle him so easy!!!

Here are the pics!!





I also made a video of him exercising for 100m in Olympic 2008 next year, teehehe.



P.S: Do you think I should get my WW & Pudding adopted? Am I a bad person if I do that?

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Added on December 13, 2007, 12:46 amDont give them kuachi anymore or give them the one already no skin one... hehe.

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 12:46 AM

I got it at PS. It's a 2 feet tank hehe... the inside are the old ones... just got the wheel and the water bottle... and PS so nice drill a hole to the tank for the bottle

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Added on December 13, 2007, 1:30 amWhen I first got my dwarfs like that also... but they have this natural instict, when things settle down, they know how to use those things themselves. Give them time... but scary la kena gigit, I am soooooo penakut kena gigit, had a bad experience before, hehe.

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 01:30 AM

Hmmm... I think it was 38, maybe can discount... I think I got also.. but dont really know but the retail is 38 lah, sure can bargain I think... or try looksee at other petshop, I really dont know if that is cheap or not lor... first I thot I wanna get the 1.5 ft cos easier to carry up my place... hehe but I think like too small la, like so kesian cannot roam further, hehe.

Jalan pasar where ah? pudu isit? Well... u have to count the convenience also lor.. easy parking etc...
This one I got since I read so much good review on their hamsters... then when there already buy together la cos I dont have extra tank anyway, just a small one for the dwarfs when I clean their main house

Hahah.. nasib baik, the jam is bad there.. but that jalan pasar is it the one near the petaling street one? ppl call it petaling street petshop right? Sometimes I dont want to buy at bad petshops bad petshops is where petshops treat their animal bad... u can see the dogs and cats are in bad condition.. i really hate that kind of petshop, so kesian lor, some more they sell cats and dogs and earn a lot lot... haiyak...

Hi JackJack!!!
I come to think that the tank like small now, hahahaha! But I am REALLY glad I got a syrian, what was I thinking when I got the dwarfs. For a wussy like me, GEEEEEZZZ *bang head on the wall* And syrian is so interactiveeeee...

crazymouse, u shud go check out the stall at the curve. I actually got the pudding and WW normal on Sat. Then next day the WW died, I think cos he was too small also. Puding is big lor. Then I asked for replacement lor, not my fault really cos only 1 night, it could be cos they are just 2 weeks old (I also stupid leh... didnt know about all this also ). Then when I got WW Pearl, I got to add another RM6 lor... The hamsters look happy la... but when I know 2 weeks is too small to sell and separated from mom, then u go there ALL hamsters (Chinese, robo, WW) are 2 weeks old lehhhh...

No, the most they do is, nibble2 my fingers... for someone who is scared from biting, that already gimme jitters. My bad experience come from my friend hamsters, he has like infestation already lor, the hamsters not tame anymore I think... I innocent2 happy put my hands inside the tanks... then NGAP!!!!! *shudders*
Well, the thing is, after I got my syrian last night, I realised it was a mistake for a wussy like me to get dwarfs. But I think the most reason I got them was they were soooooooooo cute, little thing, very friendly also. Well, they were only 2 weeks old, of course they dont know anything... sigh.

Now they are big and fat and healthy, heheheh very active run here, run there. Eat eat eat eat, shit shit shit shit, hahahahahah! I'm having a hard time to catch them.. first cos i scared they bite... wash my hands all everytime then they very sneaky, very elusive from my catching hands, hahah!

Now I read if they smell other hamsters smell, they will bite... isit?

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Added on December 13, 2007, 3:43 pmCrazymouse said last time to me Habitrail feed is not premium wor... but I never tried, I am using prestige. But dunno la if it's better than Bengy? Maybe it is?

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 03:43 PM

Ooooooh! Hmmm, I think I shud do that too... I will get bored getting the same food throughout my life, haha.

Ooh, wanna share MoFo new pics, haha.

Geez, I am so jakun now, haha!

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 04:40 PM

Err, me a noobs. But Syrian got 2 types? Bearbear and smaller? Hehe... sorry if stupid question, hahaha...

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Added on December 13, 2007, 5:09 pmJackJack so fat fat cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I like your wheel! Yesterday PS didnt have that nice wheel, only the cheap ones, haha. I have so many plans for MoFo... wanna set his tank better, buy some ceramik houses instead... I want to use the corncob bedding.... but under budget la now, so will use delikate until finish (I just have small packs anyway) then try that. Is it hard for the hamster? Can cover smell or not? I like cos it looks cleaner, hahahah...

I like JackJack tank, put more pics please

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 05:09 PM

Hehehe yeah lor... I havent really decided to get my WW and Pudding adopted cos they so cute already mah... but if I can find someone who would pay 100% attention to them and play with them better than me, I will consider also.

MoFo is trying really hard to escape! Now the wheels I put in the middle cos he tried to climb on it and escape when I put at the side... When I'm home I leave the top open cos I wanna look, heheh... and YES I think the wheel is small lor... need to buy new one, so kesian MoFo needs to arch his back a little I thot so already... weekend coming will go shopping hehe.

Hmmm... I put dried alfafa inside the tank.. a lot more now than in the pictures... with the sticks and leaves all... it smells nice, hehe cover the poopoo and peepee smell also... but I have a Q... it's ok right to put the dried alfafa lots and lots of it? I read it can also be used as xtra bedding besides for gnawing. I also see him hording some back inside the little house, hehehehe.

Hmm... but he sleeps a lot la.. is that normal for few days? He is less cautios with me today than yesterday... after some reading I know he is half tamed that's why he's not biting.. I hope he's tamed soooooon! Very soft and cuddly haha... and funny as hell when he sits and eat, haha.

Last few Qs:
1. How old is JackJack? U know birtdate or not, then I can also know MoFo's bthday
2. I see JackJack is so round and fur like so neat and close to the body... will MoFo become like that? Now he's still kurus, ringan only... bulu only like soft and fluffy

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3. Can the wheel now used by MoFo be used by Momo and Fufu? It's not too big right?

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 13 2007, 10:47 PM

So nice can hold your dwarf like that I still cannot do it always scoop with something, put on palm and pray they will not bite when they nibble also sweat come out already hahahaha... stupid

MoFo is running in the wheel now.. hehehe nice can play play with him.. but me still being careful if he bites sure painful but yeah la, syrian is the best option for hamster noobs. Have to get that 8 inch wheel fast ah... see him run like tak puas.. like he wants to go faster and run wider but cannot hmmm...

I found this thread at the hamsterhideout.com very very useful
Taming Hamster for Noobs!

my MoFo is progressing very fast! Spend the whole night playing until now (see now it's 3.22am) hehehehe... now he comes to my hand when I put it in the tanks instead of avoiding it, teehehe. Put him on my bed, he walked around try to eat my book... my notebook cable... my shorts then put him in the bathtub... hahaha, he walk and walk around and when I put him back in the tag he straight went to sleep! Must be tired!

We had a lot of fun tonight! I'm so happppppppy! MoFo is so crazy, running on his wheels then step out of it and straight pengsan, flat on his stomach Zzzzzz! I hope this is normal

My WW and Pudding is sleeping, as usual ignoring me, sigh. still avoiding my hands, haha... but at least they dont bite

Glad no more blood. Like human, shit blood can also be sigh of err constipation, not enough water

Hmm dunno about the habitrail... but I think la... can mah, these pieces shud work well with each other? But dont buy Ovo, I heard bad comments... low ventilation etc

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Added on December 14, 2007, 2:06 pmHaha no worries and me no dude la abang brother!

This post has been edited by missgeek: Dec 14 2007, 02:06 PM