QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Apr 30 2019, 08:28 AM)
His power kam from timestone?
Spoiler - Endgame Timeline explained Chat
Spoiler - Endgame Timeline explained Chat
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Apr 30 2019, 08:34 AM
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Apr 30 2019, 08:39 AM
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Avengers Endgame is the beginning of MCU multiverse.
All these while everyone's been watching Earth-199999. Those splits are just parallel universe. QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Apr 30 2019, 08:35 AM) he is timestone keeper rite He's sorcerer supreme, not time stone sitter.sorry not follow comics, if the comic also got dr. strange without timestone. Marvel stories isn't just about the stones. |
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Apr 30 2019, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 02:43 PM) From this theory, did Cap really get married to another Peggy from another reality? well... MCU fans will say love Since that reality's Cap, which at that point also probably frozen, will definitely also love that reality's Peggy, does this world's Cap really had any business there except to intrude into that dimension's Peggy and Cap relationship? What happens when that reality's Cap is woken up? Wouldn't he be also looking for Peggy as this reality's Cap also did? While that reality's Peggy still looks, feels and acts the same, she would definitely still be a totally different person to this reality's Peggy. Is what Cap is doing morally defensible? |
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Apr 30 2019, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(FreedomSeeker @ Apr 29 2019, 02:53 PM) This endgame like too rush. Should do longer. They found QR then everyone back to where they begin but with much self improved and much prepared. Then start over again or reboot with each individual movie ironman, hulk, thor, capt, etc etc etc then after 20 movies and the 21st movie is brand new infinity war with much all well prepared n improved heroes and end with thor went to the freaking head!!!! for me, it should extend a bit...after half of universe's life came back, it caused chaos throughout all universe... and due to Black Widow's death, Hawkeye finally grab the gauntlet and snap to re-do Thanos snap |
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Apr 30 2019, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(raquinz @ Apr 29 2019, 02:34 PM) How does time work actually in the vastness of space..Does Thanos use the same kalendar kuda on Morag and Vormir? Actually time doesn’t exist in the universe, it’s just a metric created by humans to measure the change of events. Events happen because things move around (change of space).So they are essentially navigating in the quantum realm to reach a specific space where a specific event was happening. |
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Apr 30 2019, 09:26 AM
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I feel they are using the word 'quantum xxx' as an easy handwave to any science they can't quite explain.
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Apr 30 2019, 10:24 AM
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will look into the video
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Apr 30 2019, 10:38 AM
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disagree with the video because he disagree with ancient one. u cannot create a theory based on 'disagree the fact established in the movie'. already make ur theory contradict with the movie
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Apr 30 2019, 12:45 PM
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so, no more spoiler story animo?
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Apr 30 2019, 11:12 PM
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There's always been 2 Steve Rogers since 1940 in the mcu universe we watch..
1 old guy came from another main universe settled with Peggy and just lay low till now & pass the shield to falcon. 2. The cap that we know of fighting all the battles and went back to return the stones. Explains how old cap was able to be just sitting there on the bench. remember Peggy was married to an unknown person when our cap visited her. That guy must be old cap from another timeline with similar mission but decided to stay in 1940 |
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QUOTE(dregatar @ Apr 30 2019, 11:26 PM) There's always been 2 Steve Rogers since 1940 in the mcu universe we watch.. but if that's true, then where did he get the shield?1 old guy came from another main universe settled with Peggy and just lay low till now & pass the shield to falcon. 2. The cap that we know of fighting all the battles and went back to return the stones. taking the shield would cause a new timeline to emerge since young cap used it in his timeline, which means old man cap cannot lay low in young cap's timeline |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 02:43 PM) From this theory, did Cap really get married to another Peggy from another reality? Capt gave himself green hat.Since that reality's Cap, which at that point also probably frozen, will definitely also love that reality's Peggy, does this world's Cap really had any business there except to intrude into that dimension's Peggy and Cap relationship? What happens when that reality's Cap is woken up? Wouldn't he be also looking for Peggy as this reality's Cap also did? While that reality's Peggy still looks, feels and acts the same, she would definitely still be a totally different person to this reality's Peggy. Is what Cap is doing morally defensible? |
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fret not guys.
The Russos have explained the theories in China QUOTE Q: Why Iron Man has to be the one to do the final snap, couldn't the people like Thor, Star-Lord or Captain Marvel whom all previously have handled the power of Infinity Stones done it instead? A: Thor in this movie couldn't do it, only Hulk was strong enough to do the snap without dying. We are still not sure whether Captain Marvel can also withstand all the power of Infinity Stones at once. The reason we choose to let Iron Man do it in the end was because he was the closest one to Thanos at the time. In all the futures Doctor Strange foresee, Iron Man was the only one who could get close to Thanos and do the snap. People usually think the death of a hero is a horrible tragedy. But we think this is different. When his death was able to bring back hope, to save half of the universe, then his death was powerful and meaningful. We shouldn't feel too sad or angry about it. Q: Peggy Carter was probably already married and in her mid 40s in 1970, in that case what year was it that Captain America went back to dance with her? A: We can't answer it for now, this is a story that happened in an alternate reality. Maybe it will be revealed in the future. Q: Did Captain America's action at the end affect the timeline? Does that mean there was a time where two CA existed in a same universe? A: To me, CA's action in the end wasn't the fact he wanted to change anything, it's more like me has made a choice. He chose to go back to past and lived with the one he loved for the rest of his life. The time travel in this movie created an alternate reality. He lived a completely different life in that world. We don't know how exactly his life turned out, but I'd like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world. Yes, there were two CA in that reality, it's just like what Hulk said, what happened in the past has already happened. If you go back to past, you simply created a new reality. The characters in this movie created new timeline when they went back to the past, but it had no effect to the prime universe. What happened in the past 22 movies was still canon. Q: In both IW and EG, the heroes tried their back to take the glove away from Thanos, so why didn't Doctor Strange just cut off Thanos' hand with his ability? A: Thanos' skin is almost impenetrable, we don't know whether Doctor Strange had the capability to do it. If he failed to cut it on time, Thanos would still able to do the snap. Doctor Strange realized this issue during his millions of test runs. Q: Why did you make Thor fat? Did Chris also become fat for the role or it was done through CG? A: It was mostly CG'd. Thor suffered more loss than anyone else, he has been living in constant pain and regret. Q: Was old Cap played Evans using make up? Or it was also post production CG? A: 95% CG, 5% make up. But the voice was 100% Evans, no modification for that. Q: Can you get the soul your sacrificed for the Soul Stone back when you return it? A: No, the process is irreversible. Even if you have returned it to its original location, you wouldn't be able to get the person back. In fact, it's not really returning the stone, more like put it back properly. The tribute soul for the soul stone will forever be sealed in that place, therefore Black Widow is gone forever. Q: How would Cap react when he encounter Red Skull when he returned the stone? A: Red Skull would probably put the soul stone back to its location, and wait for the next unfortunate stone seeker to make sacrifice. Cap and Red Skull probably won't fight. It's because it's his mission to return the stone to its original place. The Red Skull is also no longer the same Red Skull from FA. He is more like a ghost, you could almost say he's a completely different entity now. He only exists to guard the stone, his past conscious may or may not exist anymore. Q: In IW, Thanos used the time stone to reverse the time so he could the already dead Vision, and it didn't cause any time parallax. Why did no one use time stone to save Iron Man's life in EG? A: It's because even if you save Iron Man, it will still not change the fact that Thanos will eventually win the war. Among the 14 million possibilities that Doctor Strange has seen, Iron Man's sacrifice is a must for that one win scenario. Q: How did Thanos bring his army to the future? A: There is a guy called Maw in his army, he was a great wizard. Thanos himself was a brilliant genius as well. Those two easily reverse engineered and mass produced Pym Particles. Q: What about those people who got dusted? What did those five years mean to them? Why didn't they grow older when undusted? A: Yes, those people whom was lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was. Of course, there are people in his grade whom didn't die and they are probably already in colleges by now. To those dusted people, they had no conscious in these past 5 years. They didn't know what happened. It's as if they had just woke up from a long sleep. The only one who was aware about how many years has passed was Doctor Strange, because he has already seen that when he was time mediating on Titan. Parker's reunion with Ned was a touching moment. There are also people whom indeed moved on but suddenly was reunited with their lost ones. Yeah it's kind a complicated world now. Q: What if the mouse didn't press the button to turn on the quantum machine, wouldn't that stop EG from happening? Isn't this a bit too much of a coincidence? A: Yes, the MOUSE SAVED THE UNIVERSE. Among the many realities in those 14 millions possible futures Doctor Strange foresee, the mouse failed to press button and thus the heroes failed in those futures. Q: EG's plot, is it a parallel universe or a closed time loop? A: Nope, not a time loop. Both Ancient One and Hulk were right. You can't change the future by simply going back to past. But it's possible to create a different alternate future. It's not butterfly effect. Every decision you made in the past could potentially create a new timeline. For example, the old Cap at the end movie, he lived his married life in a different universe from the main one. He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam. Q: There were some metal smashing sound when the movie ended. Was that an easter egg? or just a tribute to Iron Man, or maybe an implication that Iron Man will return? A: It was our way to say goodbye to him. Q: Why there was no Iron Man's body in his funeral, only his arc reactor? And is there any secret messages for bring back that kid from Iron Man 3? A: We just feel that he should participate in Iron Man's funeral. As for whether he will appear again in future, who knows. Q: Why didn't Black Widow get a funeral as well? A: Did you forget when the heroes where mourning for her after when they returned from past? Maybe her funeral happened off screen. Maybe it will be shown in future installment, because there are still tons of stories in MCU that are waiting to be tell. REDDIT SOURCE This post has been edited by funnyTONE: May 1 2019, 12:53 AM |
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ May 1 2019, 12:41 AM) but if that's true, then where did he get the shield? The shield is his from his timeline. He brought when he went back to restore the stones.taking the shield would cause a new timeline to emerge since young cap used it in his timeline, which means old man cap cannot lay low in young cap's timeline Thats why he can bring it in a bag. so there was always and old guy with a shield married to Peggy. The problem is we're all assuming the timeline that were watching is the main one. What if it itself is a branch. Solves every plothole. |
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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 1 2019, 08:20 AM) The problem is we're all assuming the timeline that were watching is the main one. What if it itself is a branch. doesn't have to be a branch if it's like this:shield was destroyed in the final battle, but shuri and t'challa were snapped back by banner, so it's much easier to repair/replace the vibranium shield. he then leaves the shield in the avengers facility after returning the stones and mjolnir, he goes to be with peggy, but makes sure not to cause a change in the past, thus prevent a new timeline. grows old, then goes to the avengers facility again to pick up the shield and pass it to falcon |
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