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post Apr 29 2019, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(faeez87 @ Apr 29 2019, 02:26 PM)
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Flawed.
Why is there only 2 different timeline?
Who ever said there was just 2 timeline?
When they entered quantum realm, there was 3 different destination at 3 different time. Surely they all went to 3 separate timeline. Then Cap and Ironman went back to 1970. Thats a different timeline altogether.

In total, there was 6 different timelines involved. 7 if you include 1945.
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post Apr 29 2019, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Apr 29 2019, 03:15 PM)
Lol i dont understand why people so concern about other timeline

For me avengers movie is the only true and real timeline for me ! I dont give a fuk what happen to other timelines
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Its not.
We're just geeks and dorks fooling around here.
Its fun and lets us imagine things past the movie.

QUOTE(VoiVod @ Apr 29 2019, 03:16 PM)
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I could buy into this theory. Though I kinda prefer the idea of multiverse than a multi timeline.

QUOTE(nxfx @ Apr 29 2019, 03:19 PM)
nice try but actually there's no way to properly reconcile the timeline
it's full of plot holes and paradoxes
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for now, it is.
Until perhaps the movie creators come out with an explanation. Though I feel that might be reserved for bluray release.

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post Apr 29 2019, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 29 2019, 03:54 PM)
Once they mentioned time travel I immediately knew this was going to be a fanservice movie with throwbacks designed to elicit nostalgia.

Anyway one huge plot hole. I thought they said each avenger only had enough Pym particles for one return trip each. So how did nebula's Pym particle become enough to transport thanos entire freaking army over?
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Same like how Hawkeye brought the Milano spaceship with him to the past. They miniturized it first.
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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Apr 29 2019, 04:04 PM)
Then you should read "The Fabric of Reality" by David Deutsch, who was mentioned by Tony Stark in the movie as the Deutsch Proposition.

David Deutsch is also the proponent of Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, where you can have infinite number of parallel timelines.
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Ok, now we're getting into more serious shit.
At this point, I concur. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(demamkuning @ Apr 29 2019, 04:10 PM)
Somebody explain this
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Read my post.
The contraption is with nebula. Its possible, they applied the shrinking tech onto thanos mothership and travel back through QR.
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:12 PM)
one thing I noticed in the early scenes...

Ant-man trapped inside QR for 5 hrs, in real world is 5 years, how come when Janet was trapped inside QR for 30 years in real world, by right she should only be trapped for 30 hrs ? she looks way older than 30 hrs in Ant-man 2
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Janet wasn't wearing a QR suit was she?
Its possible she was experiencing what Ant-man did during their first test with Professor Hulk's prototype.
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post May 1 2019, 12:50 AM

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fret not guys.
The Russos have explained the theories in China
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Q: Why Iron Man has to be the one to do the final snap, couldn't the people like Thor, Star-Lord or Captain Marvel whom all previously have handled the power of Infinity Stones done it instead?

A: Thor in this movie couldn't do it, only Hulk was strong enough to do the snap without dying. We are still not sure whether Captain Marvel can also withstand all the power of Infinity Stones at once. The reason we choose to let Iron Man do it in the end was because he was the closest one to Thanos at the time. In all the futures Doctor Strange foresee, Iron Man was the only one who could get close to Thanos and do the snap. People usually think the death of a hero is a horrible tragedy. But we think this is different. When his death was able to bring back hope, to save half of the universe, then his death was powerful and meaningful. We shouldn't feel too sad or angry about it.



Q: Peggy Carter was probably already married and in her mid 40s in 1970, in that case what year was it that Captain America went back to dance with her?

A: We can't answer it for now, this is a story that happened in an alternate reality. Maybe it will be revealed in the future.



Q: Did Captain America's action at the end affect the timeline? Does that mean there was a time where two CA existed in a same universe?

A: To me, CA's action in the end wasn't the fact he wanted to change anything, it's more like me has made a choice. He chose to go back to past and lived with the one he loved for the rest of his life. The time travel in this movie created an alternate reality. He lived a completely different life in that world. We don't know how exactly his life turned out, but I'd like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world. Yes, there were two CA in that reality, it's just like what Hulk said, what happened in the past has already happened. If you go back to past, you simply created a new reality. The characters in this movie created new timeline when they went back to the past, but it had no effect to the prime universe. What happened in the past 22 movies was still canon.



Q: In both IW and EG, the heroes tried their back to take the glove away from Thanos, so why didn't Doctor Strange just cut off Thanos' hand with his ability?

A: Thanos' skin is almost impenetrable, we don't know whether Doctor Strange had the capability to do it. If he failed to cut it on time, Thanos would still able to do the snap. Doctor Strange realized this issue during his millions of test runs.



Q: Why did you make Thor fat? Did Chris also become fat for the role or it was done through CG?

A: It was mostly CG'd. Thor suffered more loss than anyone else, he has been living in constant pain and regret.



Q: Was old Cap played Evans using make up? Or it was also post production CG?

A: 95% CG, 5% make up. But the voice was 100% Evans, no modification for that.



Q: Can you get the soul your sacrificed for the Soul Stone back when you return it?

A: No, the process is irreversible. Even if you have returned it to its original location, you wouldn't be able to get the person back. In fact, it's not really returning the stone, more like put it back properly. The tribute soul for the soul stone will forever be sealed in that place, therefore Black Widow is gone forever.



Q: How would Cap react when he encounter Red Skull when he returned the stone?

A: Red Skull would probably put the soul stone back to its location, and wait for the next unfortunate stone seeker to make sacrifice. Cap and Red Skull probably won't fight. It's because it's his mission to return the stone to its original place. The Red Skull is also no longer the same Red Skull from FA. He is more like a ghost, you could almost say he's a completely different entity now. He only exists to guard the stone, his past conscious may or may not exist anymore.



Q: In IW, Thanos used the time stone to reverse the time so he could the already dead Vision, and it didn't cause any time parallax. Why did no one use time stone to save Iron Man's life in EG?

A: It's because even if you save Iron Man, it will still not change the fact that Thanos will eventually win the war. Among the 14 million possibilities that Doctor Strange has seen, Iron Man's sacrifice is a must for that one win scenario.



Q: How did Thanos bring his army to the future?

A: There is a guy called Maw in his army, he was a great wizard. Thanos himself was a brilliant genius as well. Those two easily reverse engineered and mass produced Pym Particles.



Q: What about those people who got dusted? What did those five years mean to them? Why didn't they grow older when undusted?

A: Yes, those people whom was lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was. Of course, there are people in his grade whom didn't die and they are probably already in colleges by now. To those dusted people, they had no conscious in these past 5 years. They didn't know what happened. It's as if they had just woke up from a long sleep. The only one who was aware about how many years has passed was Doctor Strange, because he has already seen that when he was time mediating on Titan. Parker's reunion with Ned was a touching moment. There are also people whom indeed moved on but suddenly was reunited with their lost ones. Yeah it's kind a complicated world now.



Q: What if the mouse didn't press the button to turn on the quantum machine, wouldn't that stop EG from happening? Isn't this a bit too much of a coincidence?

A: Yes, the MOUSE SAVED THE UNIVERSE. Among the many realities in those 14 millions possible futures Doctor Strange foresee, the mouse failed to press button and thus the heroes failed in those futures.



Q: EG's plot, is it a parallel universe or a closed time loop?

A: Nope, not a time loop. Both Ancient One and Hulk were right. You can't change the future by simply going back to past. But it's possible to create a different alternate future. It's not butterfly effect. Every decision you made in the past could potentially create a new timeline. For example, the old Cap at the end movie, he lived his married life in a different universe from the main one. He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam.



Q: There were some metal smashing sound when the movie ended. Was that an easter egg? or just a tribute to Iron Man, or maybe an implication that Iron Man will return?

A: It was our way to say goodbye to him.



Q: Why there was no Iron Man's body in his funeral, only his arc reactor? And is there any secret messages for bring back that kid from Iron Man 3?

A: We just feel that he should participate in Iron Man's funeral. As for whether he will appear again in future, who knows.



Q: Why didn't Black Widow get a funeral as well?

A: Did you forget when the heroes where mourning for her after when they returned from past? Maybe her funeral happened off screen. Maybe it will be shown in future installment, because there are still tons of stories in MCU that are waiting to be tell.

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 1 2019, 06:26 PM)
Here is where paying detailed attention pays off.

In 1970, when Captain America was stealing the Pym particles, he took 4 VIALS. Use 2 for him and Iron man to go back future. So that leaves 2 vials.

Evil nebula knows how it looks like and uses it to transport Thanos with army over.
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Russo edy addressed this question. Ebony Maw was able to replicate the formula.
Turns out you only need grape juice, jello and sugar.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 1 2019, 06:58 PM)
Lol I just read it. Their answer does seem sound too - now I know why Maw was featured quite prominently in Endgame compared to the other 3 Black Order members.
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haha ikr.
I figured its possible to simply shrink down the mothership instead and carry it into the qr, but hey.... a million pym particle for each soldiers seems to make more sense. laugh.gif

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