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Taikor.Taikun
post May 1 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Apr 29 2019, 03:07 PM)
i might make another chart... not sure if i should
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I’d b interested to know. Do tag me when u do
Rayvoyal
post May 1 2019, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Rayvoyal @ May 1 2019, 09:00 PM)
Think we may be onto something here. May i humbly suggest:
1. the time travel is via pym particle shrinking and navigating to destination with help of Tony's Timeline Positioning Hand Device (TPHD), and

2. The platform machine is anchor/fishline they are all connected to via the TPHD so they are all anchored by origin MCU timeline.
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cyhborg
post May 1 2019, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ May 1 2019, 11:13 PM)
I’d b interested to know. Do tag me when u do
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i decided not to, since i can't make sense of it sad.gif
orga_laut
post May 1 2019, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 1 2019, 11:01 PM)
So platform = portal to return
ie if u return from ur travel u must pop up on the platform
So how did old cap return? Since he did not pop up on the platform.

Like u said seems its an intentional plothole to mindfuck fans.
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"how old cap return?"

damn. now we talking.. russo plan to do some story telling for future project..

my theory is this..

A: 1950
B: 2023
C: 2066

if quantum open in 2023, it can close in few seconds.
from B, u cannot go C because that is future.
in order from B to go C, u need portal to open in C
but, u can go A because that is ur past.

lets follow steve in endgame.

from B, he jump to A
from A, he didnt return. he stays
if he stays until C, he can jump to B without portal.

the scene where steve jump from NY to 1970 prove this theory.

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post May 1 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 1 2019, 11:46 PM)
"how old cap return?"

damn. now we talking.. russo plan to do some story telling for future project..

my theory is this..

A: 1950
B: 2023
C: 2066

if quantum open in 2023, it can close in few seconds.
from B, u cannot go C because that is future.
in order from B to go C, u need portal to open in C
but, u can go A because that is ur past.

lets follow steve in endgame.

from B, he jump to A
from A, he didnt return. he stays
if he stays until C, he can jump to B without portal.

the scene where steve jump from NY to 1970 prove this theory.
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rclxms.gif i think you put more effort to this than the endgame script writter.
orga_laut
post May 1 2019, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Rayvoyal @ May 1 2019, 11:32 PM)
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pym particle get u shrink
quantum machine allows time holes
GPS is a gps.. set coordinate and time

if u have quantum and gps, without pym particle, u cannot shrink. if u dont shrink, u cannot go into quantum

if u hv quantum to shrink, u have quantum machine but without GPS, u will end up like ant-man scene

if u hv pym particle and GPS, without quantum machine, u only shrink without going nowhere. no holes to enter, cannot time travel. u need to go inside first to time travel.

if u can shrink, go into quantum machine, but machine stops, u will stuck like ant-man without the rat

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post May 1 2019, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 1 2019, 11:46 PM)
"how old cap return?"

damn. now we talking.. russo plan to do some story telling for future project..

my theory is this..

A: 1950
B: 2023
C: 2066

if quantum open in 2023, it can close in few seconds.
from B, u cannot go C because that is future.
in order from B to go C, u need portal to open in C
but, u can go A because that is ur past.

lets follow steve in endgame.

from B, he jump to A
from A, he didnt return. he stays
if he stays until C, he can jump to B without portal.

the scene where steve jump from NY to 1970 prove this theory.
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If no need portal to go to the past then they don't need portal on their 1st mission also kan. All going to past what??
But all of them still use portal to go back to past even came back through the portal.

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post May 2 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 1 2019, 11:57 PM)
If no need portal to go to the past then they don't need portal on their 1st mission also kan. All going to past what??
But all of them still use portal to go back to past even came back through the portal.
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the rule of quantum realm time travel is = u MUST go into quantum realm

let say u have pym particle with suit and GPS.
u going nowhere.

if other dude open quantum realm machine, u also going nowhere.

you MUST jump into quantum first.MUST.

[NY scene without portal]
1. 2023 jump into portal
2. appear in NY (portal still open)
3. jump to 1970 (portal still open)
4. jump anywhere u want with pym particle as long the portal is open.
5. return to 2023 on platform.

if u are at 3, u can appear anywhere before 2023 because thats where u start.

[Old Cap]
1. jump at 2023
2. appear 1950
3. he didnt return (hulk is 5 sec)
4. since he didnt return, he cannot jump to 2024 onwards
5. if he stays timeline no.2 until after 2024 onwards, he can appear anywhere he like in 2023 because that is his past

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post May 2 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 2 2019, 12:09 AM)
the rule of quantum realm time travel is = u MUST go into quantum realm

let say u have pym particle with suit and GPS.
u going nowhere.

if other dude open quantum realm machine, u also going nowhere.

you MUST jump into quantum first.MUST.

[NY scene without portal]
1. 2023 jump into portal
2. appear in NY (portal still open)
3. jump to 1970 (portal still open)
4. jump anywhere u want with pym particle as long the portal is open.
5. return to 2023 on platform.

if u are at 3, u can appear anywhere before 2023 because thats where u start.

[Old Cap]
1. jump at 2023
2. appear 1950
3. he didnt return (hulk is 5 sec)
4. since he didnt return, he cannot jump to 2024 onwards
5. if he stays timeline no.2 until after 2024 onwards, he can appear anywhere he like in 2023 because that is his past
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... Sitting on a bench looking at younger him going back to the past to live with peggy and ruturn to the bench looking at younger him going back to the past...

It's a never ending loop.

I personally think this theory creates more confusion but that's what the directors wanna show. We just have to accept..

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post May 2 2019, 12:41 AM

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yeah..ts already put in 1st page rolleyes.gif

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post May 2 2019, 12:47 AM

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Not sure about this, but it kind of makes sense

Whatever, I give up since Marvel took the easy way out and create 3 timelines instead of 2

That's it, no more MCU for me
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post May 2 2019, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 2 2019, 12:34 AM)
... Sitting on a bench looking at younger him going back to the past to live with peggy and ruturn to the bench looking at younger him going back to the past...

It's a never ending loop.

I personally think this theory creates more confusion but that's what the directors wanna show. We just have to accept..
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the only explanation i can come up with is the return trip doesn't strictly require you to appear on the platform, instead you can just appear in the general area.

but that just raises a question: why do that at all? just theatrics and for dramatic effect? as a prank?

edit: a loop situation can be avoided if he appears AFTER young cap goes back, right? hmm.gif

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orga_laut
post May 2 2019, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 2 2019, 12:34 AM)
... Sitting on a bench looking at younger him going back to the past to live with peggy and ruturn to the bench looking at younger him going back to the past...

It's a never ending loop.

I personally think this theory creates more confusion but that's what the directors wanna show. We just have to accept..
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no loop.

go watch the NY scene again, this time..

[avengers close up]
imagine this as portal with cap about to jump, 5sec.
portal close. no loop.

[cap+tony+scot+hulk appear]
old cap appear in style, ready to sit on the bench doing nothing

there u go ..

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post May 2 2019, 12:54 AM

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post May 2 2019, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(mamao @ May 2 2019, 12:41 AM)
user posted image

yeah..ts already put in 1st page rolleyes.gif
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yes. more like this. much better view lol

but that NY scene suppose to give a hint

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dregatar
post May 2 2019, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 2 2019, 12:53 AM)
no loop.

go watch the NY scene again, this time..

[avengers close up]
imagine this as portal with cap about to jump, 5sec

[cap+tony+scot+hulk appear]
old cap appear in style, ready to sit on the bench doing nothing

there u go ..
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Of course its a endless loop.

Our cap goes back lives with Peggy until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (1) going back in time to live with Peggy (1) until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (2) going back in time to live with Peggy (2) until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (3)...

U get my point..

Our Cap is gonna live in an alternate timeline and come back to 2033 where he will be sitting on a bench watching himself again going back to 1940.

But like I said if that what the directors wanna show than we just have to accept. Anyways tnx for the russo interview sos.

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orga_laut
post May 2 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ May 2 2019, 01:11 AM)
Of course its a endless loop.

Our cap goes back lives with Peggy until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (1) goes back in time to live with Peggy (1) until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (2) goes back in time to live with Peggy (2) until 2023 comes back sits on the bench witnessing a young cap (3)...

U get my point..

Our Cap is gonna live in an alternate timeline and come back to 2033 where he will be sitting on a bench watching himself again going back to 1940.

But like I said if that what the directors wanna show than we just have to accept.
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it stops at (1)

portal open, close

it become loop because u keep on following the other cap.

put ur eyes on cap that u know, leads to endgame.
dont lose focus. follow him... peggy.. bench. ends.

thats the ending



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