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Joseph Hahn
post Apr 29 2019, 04:28 PM

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No right or wrong since time travel is a plot hole in itself... which is why we're arguing here in the first place... how dare they belittle BTTF. tongue.gif
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post Apr 29 2019, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 29 2019, 04:08 PM)
Same like how Hawkeye brought the Milano spaceship with him to the past. They miniturized it first.
If yes they might as well have done the same thing for each of the teams and then they don't have such constraints. For example the 3 ppl could have gone into the Milano before mini then only go 🤭
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post Apr 29 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ Apr 29 2019, 04:18 PM)
She is telling if banner removes 1 stone (time stone in this case) her timeline (2012) splits to form a new timeline.
Keyword branch reality
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- Yet when Banner puts back the time stone, the branch timeline rejoins the original timeline. This only reinforces the notion that the infinity stones are binding all of existence into only one single timeline, so no parallel or branching universe exists in this version.

QUOTE(dregatar @ Apr 29 2019, 04:18 PM)
the whole first part of the movie they were literally talking about how to safely navigate through the quantum realm and tony came up with the GPS thingy.
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-Just like an actual GPS, it only tells you where you are to the time machine, not transport you to where you want to go. You would still need a vehicle (in this case the time machine) to make the trip. As no further explanation is given about the time machine itself, the most logical conclusion is that the time machine acts as an anchor point to this timeline and would send a quantum time traveler to a certain point in time and recover him from that point back into the machine itself.

At no point is the fact that quantum time travelers can independently, without the use of the time machine, go to another time point from where the time machine sent them originally is even discussed.



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post Apr 29 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 04:36 PM)

At no point is the fact that quantum time travelers can independently, without the use of the time machine, go to another time point from where the time machine sent them originally is even discussed.
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stupid Cap sitting on the bench. he should pop out at the machine. plot hole
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QUOTE(faeez87 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:42 PM)
stupid Cap sitting on the bench. he should pop out at the machine. plot hole
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Yeah even thanos ship went through the machine.
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post Apr 29 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 04:36 PM)
- Yet when Banner puts back the time stone, the branch timeline rejoins the original timeline. This only reinforces the notion that the infinity stones are binding all of existence into only one single timeline, so no parallel or branching universe exists in this version.
-Just like an actual GPS, it only tells you where you are to the time machine, not transport you to where you want to go. You would still need a vehicle (in this case the time machine) to make the trip. As no further explanation is given about the time machine itself, the most logical conclusion is that the time machine acts as an anchor point to this timeline and would send a quantum time traveler to a certain point in time and recover him from that point back into the machine itself.

At no point is the fact that quantum time travelers can independently, without the use of the time machine, go to another time point from where the time machine sent them originally is even discussed.
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In theory they think they can close the loop by merely returning the stone...

But what happen was eventhough they returned the time stone, they let Loki escape in 2012 which effect Thor Dark World and so on...

so a new branch has indeed being created...


and Cap trip to return the stone through multiple time and even going rouge by going further to 1945 which was unplanned shows he has independant control of the time jump.

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post Apr 29 2019, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(dyzr @ Apr 29 2019, 04:23 PM)
now got time machine anything can happend in future movies..
e.g ironman/blackwidow/loki/vision/agent coulson/etc character comeback..

lama2 mcu so draggy even fast and furious franchise seems making sense.
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He has to answer to Dr Strange and his monk army for that. Its their job to protect the reality..

Btw...going forward..Dr. Strange no longer have time stone ?
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post Apr 29 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(oathless @ Apr 29 2019, 04:11 PM)
Good summary.

Dont care about others..just concentrate on the 2 new Timelines created then.

Loki story = still the naughty version
Infinity stones = still available..

Hoping Loki colluded with new Villain to attack earth once again. Marvel can recycle the infinity stone saga again.
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pls dont

how far they gonna milk the same concept?

later become shitty like star wars
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:21 PM

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If pipul can simply go back and forth in time with only the GPS device like Iron Man and Captain America did, why they need to build the time machine in the first place?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:53 PM)
pls dont

how far they gonna milk the same concept?

later become shitty like star wars
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I don't think they need to recycle infinity stones stories again. There are so many villains they can choose especially now they have acquired Fox. The most interesting about next phase will be how they integrate X-Men into MCU. The branching of new timeline could be a way for them to bring Fox Marvel characters into MCU.

But the most uninteresting about the next phase is Avengers will be lead by SJW characters like Captain Marvel & Black Panther. puke.gif
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:31 PM

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or this simpler timeline.
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:32 PM

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This is just like quantum leap, the famous series in the 80s, it just another dimension/world with similar people. They time travel to other people world so that they will not mess up theirs, remember Tony condition not to change anything within 5 years, that's why he create the GPS. And that's why they need to return the stone back, so that they will not messed other people world future.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:49 PM)
He has to answer to Dr Strange and his monk army for that. Its their job to protect the reality..

Btw...going forward..Dr. Strange no longer have time stone ?
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i think nobody has the stone now. all gone.

unless..

capt america actually went back past piap2 peggy then lazy to return all the stones to its timeline so old capt has all the stone then.

mcu plot twist..
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QUOTE(fath82 @ Apr 29 2019, 05:32 PM)
This is just like quantum leap, the famous series in the 80s, it just another dimension/world with similar people. They time travel to other people world so that they will not mess up theirs, remember Tony condition not to change anything within 5 years, that's why he create the GPS. And that's why they need to return the stone back, so that they will not messed other people world future.
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Exactly, how hard is was to understand? Different reality, different dimension that branch out creating a parallel timeline, that had nothing to do with endgame timeline.

Dont mix up with back to future man, time travel dont work that way in this movie.
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:42 PM

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captain and peggy new series pls. most hngh lady in mcu after wanda coffee
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 05:21 PM)
If pipul can simply go back and forth in time with only the GPS device like Iron Man and Captain America did, why they need to build the time machine in the first place?
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I think that machine is for shrinking ITEM. Like Thanos ship, mjolnir, etc.. People can time travel using suit
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(faeez87 @ Apr 29 2019, 05:48 PM)
I think that machine is for shrinking ITEM. Like Thanos ship, mjolnir, etc.. People can time travel using suit
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Hawkeye test run also need to use the machine. The suit is there to protect them in the Quantum realm, like Ant-man's suit.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 29 2019, 05:51 PM)
Hawkeye test run also need to use the machine. The suit is there to protect them in the Quantum realm, like Ant-man's suit.
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Didnt scott use the antman suit n go quantum in antman 1 without the tunnel? I think the tunnel is for pulling u out from quantum. So when u in quantum, u can jump around using wristband only
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post Apr 29 2019, 05:58 PM

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Like i said, they use tunnel to pull out stuff from quantum timeline. Like hawkeye glove
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post Apr 29 2019, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(faeez87 @ Apr 29 2019, 05:56 PM)
Didnt scott use the antman suit n go quantum in antman 1 without the tunnel? I think the tunnel is for pulling u out from quantum. So when u in quantum, u can jump around using wristband only
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They were in the real world though at the time.

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