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 Is i5 9400F A Good Option? *Get Ryzen Instead*

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post Mar 21 2019, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ Mar 21 2019, 02:53 PM)
Ouh haha. Im confused.

i5 3570 to r5 2600. Good choice.

For a gpu, which one u use now? vega or geforce 6xxx?
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RX 580. Vega price in Malaysia still expensive. AMD price here is not for poor people like last time. 😂
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post Mar 28 2019, 06:31 AM

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so other then less stutter,not much different right?
bcause i also using i5 3570 thinking to upgrade to ryzen 2600 ..guess ill wait for ryzen 3000 la then =)
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post Mar 28 2019, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(pundi @ Mar 28 2019, 06:31 AM)
so other then less stutter,not much different right?
bcause i also using i5 3570 thinking to upgrade to  ryzen 2600 ..guess ill wait for ryzen 3000 la then =)
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Depends on games. In Total War games certainly much better. With i5 3570 I have to turn off everything running on the background, run the games with game booster etc. I dont need to use that anymore with ryzen (due to more cores and threads).

When I stream on Twitch last time (with i5) the output is so laggy. Havent tested with ryzen but will probably be much better.

In terms of pure gaming performance, maybe gain a little fps but not much. What's your graphic card?

In any case, if you can wait then it's not that long though maybe the high end will be out early while the mid range might be oit few months later.

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post Mar 28 2019, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 28 2019, 07:00 AM)
Depends on games. In Total War games certainly much better. With i5 3570 I have to turn off everything running on the background, run the games with game booster etc. I dont need to use that anymore with ryzen (due to more cores and threads).

When I stream on Twitch last time (with i5) the output is so laggy. Havent tested with ryzen but will probably be much better.

In terms of pure gaming performance, maybe gain a little fps but not much. What's your graphic card?

In any case, if you can wait then it's not that long though maybe the high end will be out early while the mid range might be oit few months later.
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post Apr 1 2019, 07:48 PM

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Ok, just curious. It says 2600 booat can go to 3.9 but in all my gameplay it usually around 3.65. Occasionally ot goes to 3.7 but cant remember goes further than that. Is there something missing? Or some bios set up I need to enable?

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 1 2019, 07:48 PM)
Ok, just curious. It says 2600 booat can go to 3.9 but in all my gameplay it usually around 3.65. Occasionally ot goes to 3.7 but cant remember goes further than that. Is there something missing? Or some bios set up I need to enable?
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/16.html
depends on the workload and only if your cpu heatsink have more thermal headroom
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post Apr 3 2019, 07:59 AM

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Do streaming increase cpu temp? Yesterday (during heavy rain where room temp is cool) when I stream the cpu temp raise over 80c. Usually when normal gaming never raise above 75c.
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post Apr 3 2019, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 1 2019, 07:48 PM)
Ok, just curious. It says 2600 booat can go to 3.9 but in all my gameplay it usually around 3.65. Occasionally ot goes to 3.7 but cant remember goes further than that. Is there something missing? Or some bios set up I need to enable?
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Its the heatsink.

Prime95 for 10 mins on Ryzen 5 2600. Using Noctua NH-L12S.
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Ignore that 5Ghz+. HWmonitor bug.

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post Apr 3 2019, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 3 2019, 09:38 AM)
Its the heatsink.

Prime95 for 10 mins on Ryzen 5 2600. Using Noctua NH-L12S.
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Ignore that 5Ghz+. HWmonitor bug.
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So if I replace with better aftermarket cooler technically it can boost further?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 3 2019, 09:54 AM)
So if I replace with better aftermarket cooler technically it can boost further?
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Yes, good aftermarket cooler enables longer boost. Infinite 3.9Ghz if it keeps low temperature.

Turbo boost these days very dependant with cooler and VRM on the motherboard.

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 3 2019, 07:59 AM)
Do streaming increase cpu temp? Yesterday (during heavy rain where room temp is cool) when I stream the cpu temp raise over 80c. Usually when normal gaming never raise above 75c.
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Steam/origin broadcast use only CPU at the moment, so it does increase workload.
OBS can be configured to use GPU, or secondary GPU to stream.
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post Apr 9 2019, 10:12 AM

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Some reviews said it gains more fps (10fps+) in some games compared with r5 2600
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post Apr 9 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(KeroGo @ Apr 9 2019, 10:12 AM)
Some reviews said it gains more fps (10fps+) in some games compared with r5 2600
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Depends on games. Those cpu intensive games sure perform better.
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Hello, GPU: SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 or ZOTAC GTX1660TI AMP 6GB GDDR5? which one better?
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post Apr 10 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kazaftkd @ Apr 10 2019, 04:05 PM)
Hello, GPU: SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 or ZOTAC GTX1660TI AMP 6GB GDDR5? which one better?
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post Apr 10 2019, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 10 2019, 05:11 PM)

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Seems like GTX 1660 Ti better haha
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QUOTE(kazaftkd @ Apr 10 2019, 06:32 PM)
Seems like GTX 1660 Ti better haha
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Definitely GTX 1660Ti better, but price much higher than RX 580... So, depend on your requirements, choose the right one for your needs.

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post Apr 11 2019, 03:03 PM

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I just bought 9400F. I think it's value for money. Better performance than i5-8500, but with cheaper price. A big recommendation for midrange upgrade!
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The CPU prices for i5-9400F and Ryzen 5 2600 dropped quite fast recently. Now i5-9400F just RM 660 and Ryzen 5 2600 is RM 640, the gap of these 2 CPU is closing up...
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post Apr 12 2019, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Apr 11 2019, 03:03 PM)
I just bought 9400F. I think it's value for money. Better performance than i5-8500, but with cheaper price. A big recommendation for midrange upgrade!
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Yes. That was my first thought. If just for now as it is then 9400f is certainly a good option. However I went with Ryzen because of the upgrade path. With 9400f, I surely will buy a non OC mobo so upgrading later to 9700k or even 9900k will be a waste. It maybe 5 years later before I cpu next so my current Ryzen board will allow me to go Zen 2 (or maybe Zen 2+?).

Maybe by the time of Zen 3 or 4 in 5 years time the coming Zen 2 will be much cheaper upgrade.

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