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joshtlk1
post Jun 27 2020, 09:03 AM

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Any started to put in a substantial amount of savings into simple yet?
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post Jun 28 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(cyanbleu @ Jun 28 2020, 04:28 PM)
I just coincidentally clicked onto this thread and I'm interested with the returns and positive reviews everyone is saying about SA.. but I'm new to this and I don't know where I can get more information. The website isn't very user friendly or informative.

Anyone mind doing a TLDR or SA for newbies explanation for noobs like me? Besides the 0.8% fee I'm paying annually I pretty much don't know anything else. How are the returns calculated? What are the risks of dumping in RM10,000 every month and what kind of net am I expecting to see by the end of a 12-month term?

thanks all gurus who are willing to take time to explain.. xixi
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Take a look at this brief explanation of stashaway. The person has almost 70k in assets with StashAway.
https://youtu.be/NzWEUVWHQgQ
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post Jun 28 2020, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(cyanbleu @ Jun 28 2020, 04:58 PM)
I'd like to think no investments are risk free.. with the exception of FD. They mentioned volatility, but with no clear elaboration.

According to the introductory post, I understand the higher the risk profile, the higher the projected returns. And you were right, these 'expected returns' are definitely higher than FD rates (even ASB for that matter).

However, in the unfortunate event that the markets go downhill, what kinds of losses am I looking at if I set my risk profile to be, say, 20%? The website says if your profile is set at 20% there's a 1% chance you have 20% losses, which sounds pretty alarming.. Let me know if I misunderstood incorrectly..
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Yes you are right, there is a 1% chance your portfolio will drop by -20% in a given year. To be honest, that is the risk of the stock market in general, and a 20% drop is not unheard of. Take a look at the sp500 chart,from the peak of this year around Feb 19 to March 23rd, the sp500 dropped by 33%, but if you did not sell your stocks then, stocks has since recovered from its low, and is now 35% higher.

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post Jun 28 2020, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dinkelberg @ Jun 28 2020, 08:15 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but market correction means that the security value is higher than it should be? So they "correct" it to the actual/expected value? Also does it work the other way around like if the security is undervalued?
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In an ideal world, yes and yes. But the stock market is always either undervalued or overvalued, that's how people like you and I, the investor can make money, because the stock is always undervalued or overvalued. If the stock market is constantly at the value in which in 'should be', there will not be any investors in the market. That;s why you hear terms like 'over-correction', 'overvalued'. So it really depends
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:54 AM

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Just deposit another lump sum into stashaway simple. Good way to hold my extra emergency funds and savings.
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post Jul 6 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 6 2020, 10:53 AM)
Even StashAway themselves never say confirm profit. Actually their app design is more ethical than say Wahed, StashAway let user choose risk, Wahed just ask how much profit ppl want over long term.
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Wahed also is not as transparent or lacking of information. They do not have TWR or MWR. Can't really judge the performance of your portfolio if you DCA constantly. Still think StashAway by far is better.

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post Jul 6 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jul 6 2020, 12:30 PM)
I agree with this, but i understand why they combined IJR especially with gold etf, they want to limit the downside in case of adverse event.  But the bad thing is they also limit the upside but as a new company they might not be able survive the bad publicity of giving a really bad return if that happens. They did say for a given risk percentage there is 1 % chance of losing more than that in any given year, but still it could put off people from investing.

It is really a good thing in my opinion for never accepting the auto optimization which lead to me having 80++ % in US equity based on the previous iteration. Just to be clear i also have small percentage in the new iteration with KWEB ,gold,reit.
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So you have 2 different portfolio with same risk index? One with optimization and one without?
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post Jul 6 2020, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 6 2020, 05:27 PM)
i think investment u need to first think how many risk u can stomach. i have known someone very steady when kalah money, they will like, they already know there is a risk to kalah everything, so why frust over it.

Like forex high risk high return, 1 year can get 100% return, but in split second can kalah everything.
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Agree. The best portfolio is not one that gives the highest return, but its one that you can stomach, knowing you won't do anything crazy when shit happens cool2.gif
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post Jul 7 2020, 10:01 AM

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KWEB goes up so fast, even with weekly DCA, its been weeks now, that SA did not buy into KWEB in my portfolio because it has to compensate other ETFs and distribute my DCA money to other ETFs. lol! Not sure if I like it or not
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post Jul 7 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 7 2020, 10:11 AM)
Err you want more equities you should increase ur risk exposure. StashAway just try to make ur portfolio stick closer to their target allocation.

I believe in long run, constant rebalancing is good.
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Mine is the highest risk profile 36%. What I was trying to point out that KWEB increased out pace its target allocation. So even with DCA, it has not allocate to KWEB yet for weeks now.
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post Jul 7 2020, 10:53 AM

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Stashaway Simple dividend is in. It's a pretty good return I feel. Base on my calculations it's returning more than a 3% p.a. At least for this month

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post Jul 7 2020, 03:40 PM

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BNM cuts OPR by 25 basis points to 1.75%. I guess Simple will be updated too
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(anwa @ Jul 8 2020, 09:27 PM)
But my portfolio didn't increase by 12.46, only the usual 2-3 days few ringgit.
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It is the same for me. I think just gotta wait one more day for them to update it. I assume they will by more units with that dividend.
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post Jul 13 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(jeushyun @ Jul 13 2020, 10:37 AM)
For new user, is there any advice for me to follow? I am 22 currently and felt like my FD rate (1.85) is not worth keeping in the bank.
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Look at stashaway simple. Simple, and liquid. PM me if you would like more info.
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post Jul 13 2020, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 13 2020, 02:20 PM)
Almost everything you wanna know can be found in stashaway FAQ, or post on this forum. If you have anything private, you dont PM random strangers on lowyat, you just talk to stashaway customer support via whatsapp/email.

Ppl asking you to PM them just come off shady and scammy to me, be careful.

I repeat, if you have private questions, talk to StashAway customer support. You are paying them 0.8% p.a. to help you in finance matters.
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lol guys, I agree it sounds shady. But actually just wanted to share with the individual about a youtube video I made explaining about StashAway Simple, and didn't think it was appropriated to sound my horn or advertise my videos here in this forum. That's all biggrin.gif

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post Jul 14 2020, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(responsible poster @ Jul 14 2020, 06:19 PM)
i tried transferring from simple to SA portfolio

took 1 week wtf

transfer from bank account faster

SA needs to improve on this
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It's hard for them. They have to first sell the money market fund from SA simple, that I assume takes 2 to 3 days. And then convert ringgit to usd another 1 day. And to invest, another 1 day. So total around 5 business days.
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post Jul 15 2020, 03:42 PM

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Wahed performs better, but it is also more risky. Look at their top holdings for HLAL etc. Apple consist for almost 20% while, there is also TESLA, which if you are a believer in their stock, sure.

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post Jul 18 2020, 10:29 PM

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Lots of news spreading about stashaway MD it's simple product. What do you guys think about CF Lieu youtube video about it? He doesn't seem to have confidence in stashaway and said that the simple product is not license my SC? Is that true?
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post Jul 18 2020, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jul 18 2020, 10:32 PM)
this one?

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He has another one. But yup. He doesn't seem to be a fan of StashAway lol
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post Jul 19 2020, 12:40 PM

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Very good discussion so far. Coming from the US I understand the bias towards UT and financial advisors here in Malaysia. But at the same time, due to the lack of access to foreign funds in Malaysia or the high fees charge, I think stashaway provides a very good platform to easily invest in NYSE etfs without the high fees. I've personally cashed out using Robinhood in the US and have since DCA into stashaway.

Only con like what other users have said, since robo advisors are new here in SEA, adaption might not be as quick and fast. Hopefully they are able to sustained their growth and more adoption to the platform by users out there. Just my 2 cents 😁

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