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MUM
post Feb 25 2023, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 25 2023, 12:04 PM)
So it's NO go for 100k EPF then????

Too bad for those planning to dump the additional 40k $$$ 😁
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Perhaps they hv to wait for it to be "approved/passed" by the parliament before making amendment to their Facebook pages or website?

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post Feb 25 2023, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 12:14 PM)
Perhaps they hv to wait for it to be "approved/passed" by the parliament?
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same thought

must be approved first

then relevant agencies to adopt and implement
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post Feb 25 2023, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 25 2023, 09:13 AM)
See your age first...

Still far from 55...
Then don't go all out...
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Not a good age lor. Later rm100k cash beli stupid things. Better pump2 kwsp first lol. Rm60k done left rm40k allocation. Kwsp fast2 update self contribution allocation. Now hand itchy wanna buy ps5 and iphone 14 lol
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post Feb 25 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 12:29 PM)
Not a good age lor. Later rm100k cash beli stupid things. Better pump2 kwsp first lol. Rm60k done left rm40k allocation. Kwsp fast2 update self contribution allocation.  Now hand itchy wanna buy ps5 and iphone 14 lol
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Just do What ever makes you more satisfied....
You had already saved 60k for this year, ... spend some to satisfied your achievement for having saved 60k. Whatever balance save again into kwsp when they "approved" that extra 40k. Your ps5 and iPhone would not cost 20k.

Your interest in ps5 and the joy & satisfaction of having played with it....priceless.... as you may not have that kind of joy playing with it later in life.


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post Feb 25 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 01:04 PM)
Just do What ever makes you more satisfied....
You had already saved 60k for this year, ... spend some to satisfied your achievement for having saved 60k. Whatever balance save again into kwsp when they "approved" that extra 40k. Your ps5 and iPhone would not cost 20k.

Your interest in ps5 and the joy & satisfaction of having played with it....priceless.... as you may not have that kind of joy playing with it later in life.
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Thanks bro but pushing to 50 so better start saving now. Enough lah enjoy enjoy enjoy (ref to myself lol). Its time to sakit now for a better future
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post Feb 25 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 01:08 PM)
Thanks bro but pushing to 50 so better start saving now. Enough lah enjoy enjoy enjoy (ref to myself lol). Its time to sakit now for a better future
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If really can tahan sakit and are really for the better future sake, then, when encountered this situation ...

QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 12:29 PM)
Not a good age lor. Later rm100k cash beli stupid things. Better pump2 kwsp first lol. Rm60k done left rm40k allocation. Kwsp fast2 update self contribution allocation.  Now hand itchy wanna buy ps5 and iphone 14 lol
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....just "chop" it off lor. laugh.gif devil.gif

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 01:13 PM)
If really can tahan sakit and are really for the future sake, then, when encountered this situation ...
....just "chop" it off lor. laugh.gif devil.gif
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Lol reply u later dalam train now jalan2 tengok kuala lumpur lol
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post Feb 25 2023, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 01:14 PM)
Lol reply u later dalam train now jalan2 tengok kuala lumpur lol
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thumbup.gif ..
Good moves. Go enjoy your life once in a while.

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post Feb 25 2023, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 12:14 PM)
Perhaps they hv to wait for it to be "approved/passed" by the parliament before making amendment to their Facebook pages or website?
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Hmm...
Don't think it's work like this...

Something is wrong somewhere...
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post Feb 25 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 25 2023, 02:06 PM)
Hmm...
Don't think it's work like this...

Something is wrong somewhere...
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What you do think should work and How should it be done better so that it won't be seen as "Something is wrong somewhere..."?

They should make the new changes and announce it to the public in their Facebook pages or website before getting the parliament approval?

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post Feb 25 2023, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 25 2023, 02:06 PM)
Hmm...
Don't think it's work like this...

Something is wrong somewhere...
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from what I understand, certain things are "cast" in stone into the EPF act, and any changes to those "stones" require Parliamentary approval.

So whatever proposed in the budget 2023 will need to pass parliament first.

This is the same reason why last year's 2023 contained the 100K limit but all talk for fun only after PM9 dissolved the parliament.
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post Feb 25 2023, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 01:08 PM)
Thanks bro but pushing to 50 so better start saving now. Enough lah enjoy enjoy enjoy (ref to myself lol). Its time to sakit now for a better future
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remember to start spending your retirement funds if you already planned long ago and executed your retirement plans properly....

for once, I personally don't care about the 60K rm or 100K rm limit beyond the fact that this allows me to park a bit more of my spare cash in EPF to earn higher "FD-like" rates.

It is time for me to start drawing down my EPF dividends to spend already....
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post Feb 25 2023, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 02:23 PM)
What you do think should work and How should it be done better so that it won't be seen as "Something is wrong somewhere..."?

They should make the new changes and announce it to the public  in their Facebook pages or website before getting the parliament approval?
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If there was gonna be an increase from 60k to 100k, wouldn't it have to be in the Proposed Budget first? Parliament is only gonna approve what Anwar has proposed in his paper yesterday. How would they be able to insert an additional proposal at the parliament sitting or announce it in fb without it being in the Proposed Budget?

I can't see anything about the 100k in the Touchpoints or in the Star paper either (unless I missed reading it).

So I don't see anything "wrong", and just take it that there isn't gonna be any increase this year.
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post Feb 25 2023, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Feb 25 2023, 04:08 PM)
If there was gonna be an increase from 60k to 100k, wouldn't it have to be in the Proposed Budget first? Parliament is only gonna approve what Anwar has proposed in his paper yesterday. How would they be able to insert an additional proposal at the parliament sitting or announce it in fb without it being in the Proposed Budget?

I can't see anything about the 100k in the Touchpoints or in the Star paper either (unless I missed reading it).

So I don't see anything "wrong", and just take it that there isn't gonna be any increase this year.
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Unless he proposed an amendment during the bajet debat then they can change and amend during then but for now what is proposed is already set in stone

To make those changes EPF Act have to be amended hence more headache now because the time is tight for PMX doing things with 3 months to spare 🤦‍♀️
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post Feb 25 2023, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Feb 25 2023, 04:08 PM)
If there was gonna be an increase from 60k to 100k, wouldn't it have to be in the Proposed Budget first? Parliament is only gonna approve what Anwar has proposed in his paper yesterday. How would they be able to insert an additional proposal at the parliament sitting or announce it in fb without it being in the Proposed Budget?

I can't see anything about the 100k in the Touchpoints or in the Star paper either (unless I missed reading it).

So I don't see anything "wrong", and just take it that there isn't gonna be any increase this year.
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Try touchpoint as per link in post 1170 page 59, by TOS
EPF - self contribution, need advise
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4745820/+1160




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post Feb 25 2023, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Feb 25 2023, 04:15 PM)
Unless he proposed an amendment during the bajet debat then they can change and amend during then but for now what is proposed is already set in stone

To make those changes EPF Act have to be amended hence more headache now because the time is tight for PMX doing things with 3 months to spare 🤦‍♀️
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Pardon my asking, why should epf act be amended.

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post Feb 25 2023, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2023, 04:18 PM)
Try touchpoint as per link in post 1170 page 59, by TOS
EPF - self contribution, need advise
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4745820/+1160
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Thank you. Yes, I rechecked the English version, and it is there too. Attached File  2023_touchpoint_en.pdf ( 529.74k ) Number of downloads: 14
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post Feb 25 2023, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 25 2023, 04:43 PM)
Pardon my asking, why should epf act be amended.
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Any changes relating to withdrawal and contribution has to be amended under EPF Act unlike PM8 who abuses the Act with the cover of emergency powers hence the Act is for 🤦‍♀️
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post Feb 25 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Feb 25 2023, 05:15 PM)
Any changes relating to withdrawal and contribution has to be amended under EPF Act unlike PM8 who abuses the Act with the cover of emergency powers hence the Act is for 🤦‍♀️
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Saturday passing the time only. I perused the act, actually fast glancing thru only. Nowhere is it mentioned about voluntary contributions and the likes. Maybe i am mistaken. Its statutory contributions that when changed needs amendments. But with the so called covid contributions reduction, i dont recalled such amendments. Again i am not a lawyer...so


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post Feb 25 2023, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 25 2023, 05:22 PM)
Saturday passing the time only. I perused the act, actually fast glancing thru only. Nowhere is it mentioned about voluntary contributions and the likes. Maybe i am mistaken. Its statutory contributions that when changed needs amendments. But with the so called covid contributions reduction, i dont recalled such amendments. Again i am not a lawyer...so
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There is under contribution whereby anything above statuary rate of rm1 is covered under the Act which is self contribution and those who opted above statuary rate 🤦‍♀️

Covid special withdrawals come under Emergency Act hence PM8 abuses power when doing that by using MCO

That is why Anwar is not doing any changes because he knows any structural changes has to go through amendment of an Act which is he trying to reduce it unless it is necessary like the govt procurement Act amendment which is upcoming soon

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