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alexei
post Jul 13 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 13 2020, 01:39 PM)
My previous Angel ST lasted around 16k km with around 10% left... I was told Roasted 01 is way durable... Think I've been conned... Haha... But anyway, no regret... Just did a Cameron ride yesterday thru Sungai Koyan and it serve me sell...  thumbup.gif I try stick to recommended pressure @ 32f/36r... Tried go higher on rear last time @40 but it makes the tyre become squarish faster...
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Eh, Angel ST is not dual compound leh. With that also lasted 16k km? Hopefully Roasted 01 will double that for you. Why you call it Roasted ah?
IMO Angel ST to Roadtec01 is one step up. The competitor for Roadtec01 is the Angel GT or Angel GT II. From an article I just saw, Pirelli owns Metzeler so are considered the same company? Now it feels even better to be running a set of Metzelers... haha
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post Jul 13 2020, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 13 2020, 02:43 PM)
Eh, Angel ST is not dual compound leh. With that also lasted 16k km? Hopefully Roasted 01 will double that for you. Why you call it Roasted ah?
IMO Angel ST to Roadtec01 is one step up. The competitor for Roadtec01 is the Angel GT or Angel GT II. From an article I just saw, Pirelli owns Metzeler so are considered the same company? Now it feels even better to be running a set of Metzelers... haha
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Phone auto correction haha... Ya I was actually asking for roadtec z8, but the seller say better use back Angel ST and save some $$ as Angel ST is slightly cheaper with near same performance... He said either take one step up to roadtec 01, or use back Angel ST... No point wasting money on z8... Still, most recommended is PR5 which is way out of my budget... Haha...
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post Jul 13 2020, 10:04 PM

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There are those that reported higher with the roadtecs...might be im riding more aggressive or something

Met a guy who got 26k km on the rear with his cb650f..n he carries pillion n full top n side boxes alot

Depends on ur riding conditions i guess

N the roadtec01 is supposed to be the replacement for z8
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:11 AM

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I see, I'd say Z8 and ST are the same level. Maybe jaga wallet a bit, next one use either one of these, whichever is cheaper or available. Next important thing is to make time for more rides.

QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 13 2020, 08:37 PM)
Phone auto correction haha... Ya I was actually asking for roadtec z8, but the seller say better use back Angel ST and save some $$ as Angel ST is slightly cheaper with near same performance... He said either take one step up to roadtec 01, or use back Angel ST... No point wasting money on z8... Still, most recommended is PR5 which is way out of my budget... Haha...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 13 2020, 10:04 PM)
There are those that reported higher with the roadtecs...might be im riding more aggressive or something

Met a guy who got 26k km on the rear with his cb650f..n he carries pillion n full top n side boxes alot

Depends on ur riding conditions i guess

N the roadtec01 is supposed to be the replacement for z8
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post Jul 14 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 14 2020, 10:11 AM)
I see, I'd say Z8 and ST are the same level. Maybe jaga wallet a bit, next one use either one of these, whichever is cheaper or available. Next important thing is to make time for more rides.
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From the place I purchase, ST and 01 price difference - f = rm50, r = rm150 only... Which I think if 01 can get greater mileage, then the price-mileage ratio will be the same.. Not to mention better grip on the 01... So 01 will definitely be my choice...
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post Jul 14 2020, 02:06 PM

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I personally wont bother with the angels.unless its the gt...but thats for different reasons hahaha

Aftee this 01 runs out i wanna give the t31 a try pulak...n after that the pr5...at least thats the plan

If 01se comes in...the plan may change heh
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post Jul 14 2020, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 14 2020, 12:47 PM)
From the place I purchase, ST and 01 price difference - f = rm50, r = rm150 only... Which I think if 01 can get greater mileage, then the price-mileage ratio will be the same.. Not to mention better grip on the 01... So 01 will definitely be my choice...
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Good point.

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 14 2020, 02:06 PM)
I personally wont bother with the angels.unless its the gt...but thats for different reasons hahaha

Aftee this 01 runs out i wanna give the t31 a try pulak...n after that the pr5...at least thats the plan

If 01se comes in...the plan may change heh
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later i post pic of my Roadtec01...
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post Jul 14 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 14 2020, 02:06 PM)
I personally wont bother with the angels.unless its the gt...but thats for different reasons hahaha

Aftee this 01 runs out i wanna give the t31 a try pulak...n after that the pr5...at least thats the plan

If 01se comes in...the plan may change heh
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Please update on any dedicated/new topic ya... Would be very helpful... Those are on my list too... Btw, heard T31 had great mileage too, but after 50% don't feel nice... Don't know how true was that...
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post Jul 14 2020, 02:51 PM

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as for me wait my shinko botak 1st then change to conti sports attack
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post Jul 14 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jul 14 2020, 02:51 PM)
as for me wait my shinko botak 1st then change to conti sports attack
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can share their wear pattern? what it looks like on the sides? how hard do you ride the bike?
asking becoz i wanna try shinko also, and interested to see how it wears under Malaysian weather.
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 14 2020, 02:53 PM)
can share their wear pattern? what it looks like on the sides? how hard do you ride the bike?
asking becoz i wanna try shinko also, and interested to see how it wears under Malaysian weather.
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im using shinko apex 010. all i can say is the grip when the road is hot is excellent. however i do occasionally feel its slipping... not the tyres' fault really, more towards the sand on the road. its sensitive in that way. not really good on wet condition. the carcass is hard and on the heavy side, so if ure the guy who loves taking corners but wont mind sacrificing a bit of the top end, this is for u. the tyre profile also u know already its design for cornering in mind.

Price wise... well here in malaysia its kindda on the expensive side. for the price u can get better brands really. i bought this dirt cheap and thats why i use it.
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post Jul 15 2020, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jul 14 2020, 10:45 PM)
im using shinko apex 010. all i can say is the grip when the road is hot is excellent. however i do occasionally feel its slipping... not the tyres' fault really, more towards the sand on the road. its sensitive in that way. not really good on wet condition. the carcass is hard and on the heavy side, so if ure the guy who loves taking corners but wont mind sacrificing a bit of the top end, this is for u. the tyre profile also u know already its design for cornering in mind.

Price wise... well here in malaysia its kindda on the expensive side. for the price u can get better brands really. i bought this dirt cheap and thats why i use it.
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Yaya, Shinko Apex you mentioned... searched online for trackday review, found this guy saying those tyres gone before reach the TWI mark. Is that why you changing soon? Feels don't dare to use it yet.

Looks like after a while, once the oil in tyres can use up, it will quickly lose grip. Read that track tyres like can only tahan few rounds of warm up and cool down before losing performance. Guessing that's why got many second hand track tyres for cheap. Saw many of those tyres have biji2 bumps, which is an indication of over-heating.

Where do you go cornering? I follow frens every other weekend for cornering practice.
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post Jul 15 2020, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 15 2020, 12:03 AM)
Yaya, Shinko Apex you mentioned... searched online for trackday review, found this guy saying those tyres gone before reach the TWI mark. Is that why you changing soon? Feels don't dare to use it yet.

Looks like after a while, once the oil in tyres can use up, it will quickly lose grip. Read that track tyres like can only tahan few rounds of warm up and cool down before losing performance. Guessing that's why got many second hand track tyres for cheap. Saw many of those tyres have biji2 bumps, which is an indication of over-heating.

Where do you go cornering? I follow frens every other weekend for cornering practice.
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since i ride everywhere and everyday... so where ever got corners i corner la lol...
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post Jul 15 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 14 2020, 02:38 PM)
Please update on any dedicated/new topic ya... Would be very helpful... Those are on my list too... Btw, heard T31 had great mileage too, but after 50% don't feel nice... Don't know how true was that...
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we shall see... a proper thought n review will need some time...mebbe mid next year kut lol
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post Jul 16 2020, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 14 2020, 02:38 PM)
Please update on any dedicated/new topic ya... Would be very helpful... Those are on my list too... Btw, heard T31 had great mileage too, but after 50% don't feel nice... Don't know how true was that...
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fren of a fren use T31 on Z9, slide and no confidence... YMMV
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 16 2020, 09:48 AM)
fren of a fren use T31 on Z9, slide and no confidence... YMMV
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on a Z9? damn...im on Z9 too.

wat kinda rider is he? cornering kaki? touring kaki?

sliding in rain? or in corners?
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post Jul 16 2020, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 16 2020, 12:40 PM)
on a Z9? damn...im on Z9 too.

wat kinda rider is he? cornering kaki? touring kaki?

sliding in rain? or in corners?
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The rider is experienced rider, superbikes, sports tourer, street sports. The Z9 belongs to his friend, stock setup, rode it up Cameron on a good day and that was his feedback. He wants to replace S22 with T31 as next tyre on his bike and re-assess. Not to brag, but as reference, his S22 no chicken strips, for real. So, maybe T31 isn't suitable for him.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 16 2020, 01:08 PM)
The rider is experienced rider, superbikes, sports tourer, street sports. The Z9 belongs to his friend, stock setup, rode it up Cameron on a good day and that was his feedback. He wants to replace S22 with T31 as next tyre on his bike and re-assess. Not to brag, but as reference, his S22 no chicken strips, for real. So, maybe T31 isn't suitable for him.
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then that kinda rider for sure the T31 not suitable for him.... completely different usage which is why they have different models of tires in the first place laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 16 2020, 01:11 PM)
then that kinda rider for sure the T31 not suitable for him.... completely different usage which is why they have different models of tires in the first place laugh.gif
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for the same reason, he cannot afford his tyres... hence T31, before switching brands.
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Anyone has experience with CBR150R? Im planning to get one for daily commute later on when office goes back to on site working. I'm riding from Puchong to Cyber so top speed is not a criteria. I ride around the 100-120kmph range mostly. My other considerations are MT-15 and GSX-S150. Mt-15 i have to tip toe a little bit with the seat height, worry about maintenance as well. GSX the look is kinda meh and no ABS at all is kinda sad but Suzuki maintenance should be better? Need some insight from sifus.

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