I think you should feel it yourself..

Agreed. "Feel" is quite subjective for each different individuals.

Anyway, here's a good argument-cum-discussion about focusing mechanisms: http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24369

This post has been edited by soulfly: Jan 25 2008, 12:02 AM

you are referring to this



sorry i lost interest after page 2. I think forum is forum. They will come up with their own conclusion which is sometimes baseless just like what happen here too.

i'm not a sports photographer, i just pointed out that the EF 50mm f.14 has USM (with FTM), so being RM 100 odd more expensive than the Sony, it can be said "cheaper".

Am getting a dSLR at the end of Feb, or beginning of March. of course would be great if i can find a used Minolta 50mm f1.8 or Sony 50mm f1.4, then only go buy the A200.

Anyone having a 50mm f1.8 wanna upgrade to the Sony f1.4?

hmm and how you know it is not ? have you tried and time both system side by side? is the difference material? hmm to a sports or nature photographer maybe impt. anyway original poster should have facts to back when stating such claims - feel feel very subjective.

eh, vincent's point is that a forum is a discussion based, people come up with their conclusion but in some cases it could be just baseless.

anyway whatever the AF speed is about, it's good to know some benchies. and how much faster are we talking about. 0.3 secs?

a matter of fact yes, my brother owns the sony A100.



and me and my brother stop arguing how crappy both kitlens are and doesn't bother to compare which is better

Fixed,

Conclusion, you might get to start cheap with Sony, however in long term run, you gonna pay aloooot more to buy Sony lens compare to buying Canon lens at the same spec. If you guys just wanna get a DSLR for the sake of buying one, maybe you can start cheap with Alpha 200 and it's just the matter of time before you change to Canon once you start to know how to calculate better.

poison poison



nice round bokeh... go for the sony f1.4

the price quoted for the sony 50mm 1.4 is based on the recommended selling price at sony style. go bargain a bit at sg wang - it is lower than that price.

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Added on January 25, 2008, 1:12 amhehe hokay

This post has been edited by kitman: Jan 25 2008, 01:12 AM

what is the current market price for the sony 50mm f1.4 ?

Is there any fast lens below RM1k that fits alpha mount?

Have to try to find a used Minolta 50mm f1.7. Should be around RM 300-400. This "should" be better than Canon's 50mm f1.8. The minolta has 7 aperture blades, the canon only has 5. from pictures i've seen, the bokeh is quite round too.

Average selling price for a used Minolta 50mm f1.7 is RM4xx-5xx and you only get to see people selling that lens once in a blue moon. A used Canon 50mm f1.8 is around RM2xx, if you are lucky, you can get it for Rm180 like one of our forumer, do a random search at our Trade Zone and you'll know how easy it is to get a used Canon 50mm f1.8 compared to getting one for Sony

Minolta 28-75@F2.8 (constant)... Definitely one of the best lens for the A-mount... Y bother talking it? Is just that the kitlens is alil wider, that's all.. other than that, I dont see anything else extra from the kitlens... Even the aperture F2.8 already speak for its price.. hehe

EDIT: I have yet to see anyone else using this lens... with something that rare, how is it not expensive leh...

This post has been edited by vX-2: Jan 25 2008, 03:55 AM

For people like me who doesn't earn enough to by a RM5k lens, and like shooting wildlife photography, I know that a RM2.5k Sigma 170-500mm or a RM700 Sigma 70-300 APO will come with image stabilizer if I get Sony system (or Pentax).
Unless one prepare to spend a fortune on Canon L lens, or rich enough to own a RM10k lens, I don't see the difference between RM5k and RM10k because I know I will never buy either of it. One day if I become a millionaire, what is RM10k? I don't think I'll give a damn.

For the sake of comparing:
Canon Zoom Telephoto EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS Image Stabilizer = RM2,395.00 (www.shashinki.com)
SAL75300 f/4.5-5.6 Telephoto Zoom Lens = RM999.00 (www.sonystyle.com.my); RM500 with Alpha 200 Kit

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Auto Focus Lens = RM2,295.00
SAL100M28 100mm f/2.8 Macro Lens = RM2,999.00 (you get IS for additional RM700, now where is Canon EF 100mm IS from Canon?)
Want a cheaper solution with IS, there's Tamron 90mm @ RM1250, yeap, IS included.

i still don't know why u guys r still arguing over whether canon or sony is better....after read thru all the comments ...in fact most of ur points are valid...but like i said...each has it own pros and cons...canon 450D also good....but i seriously don't think it will sell at A200's price.....but i seriously don't understand why sony did not include live view ...even in A700....

Cash price~

too bad no 3rd party 50mm fast lens

liveview is rubbish without rotating LCD..

and i never like canon entry level cam, crap handling and ergonomics..i rather go for nikon entry..lol

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Added on January 25, 2008, 8:55 amif u think and observe carefully, sony only lose out pricing in few high end lenses, others almost the same price if not cheaper..50mm f1.4 prices are almost the same for sony and canon, i dunno who put there RM1699.lol

but sony definitely lose out on lens choices..

so if u want wide lens lineup, go for canon.

This post has been edited by harrychoo: Jan 25 2008, 08:55 AM