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TSAceCombat
post Jun 14 2007, 07:02 PM, updated 19y ago


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want to complain this no kind retail shop which is 4th floor in Penang shopping complex Bukit Jambul.

This is the last tiem i will go there,seeing me never buy things from them,their service is sucks

i went inside to find thermalpaste,the boss (Ric*y the name) know my just ask for fun,get a AS5 for me and say,this thermalpaste is the best one,sell u rm48.(WTF,think i'm noob?)

then i say no want,nothing so special,then he get a Mahhantan Thermalpaste for me,say,this is the owrst one,sell u RM18....(WTFWTFWTFWTF, vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif this thermalpaste only rm4 in Pristine,think i stupid?)

I laugh and walk out the shop.

newbie pls be careful,this shop really killing ppl,especially those dont know much about pc.

ppl selling rm25,they selling rm48,what do u think of this kind of shop?

think we r al noob and stupid,dont ever deal with him again. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

This post has been edited by AceCombat: Jul 29 2007, 03:53 PM
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post Jun 14 2007, 08:53 PM

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another shop with bad reputation slauthering ppl doh.gif
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post Jun 14 2007, 09:06 PM

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i think this is the second time i heard of rich*e guy, i shall stay far far away from this shop smile.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 14 2007, 08:02 PM)
want to complain this no kind retail shop which is 4th floor in Penang shopping complex Bukit Jambul.

This is the last tiem i will go there,seeing me never buy things from them,their service is sucks

i went inside to find thermalpaste,the boss (Ric*y the name) know my just ask for fun,get a AS5 for me and say,this thermalpaste is the best one,sell u rm48.(WTF,think i'm noob?)

then i say no want,nothing so special,then he get a Mahhantan Thermalpaste for me,say,this is the owrst one,sell u RM18....(WTFWTFWTFWTF, vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif this thermalpaste only rm4 in Pristine,think i stupid?)

I laugh and walk out the shop.

newbie pls be careful,this shop really killing ppl,especially those dont know much about pc.

ppl selling rm25,they selling rm48,what do u think of this kind of shop?

think we r al noob and stupid,dont ever deal with him again. mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Ace, you mean the shop beside Pristine? ohmy.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 10:54 AM


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ya,the shop beside pristine la,really killing ppl one,service sucks,then think me stupid,say theis AS5 is rm48 and the rm4 thermalpaste wanna sell rm18.

my second blacklisted shop!

Added on June 15, 2007, 10:59 amwell,cause last time when i was really noob about pc that time,i went there and find things and never buy from them (their price is really expensive and few hardwares to choose),so they just provide sucks service.

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post Jun 17 2007, 10:11 PM

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Shops at BJ really lousy.
If you really need to get something fro BJ, make sure you go to those more reputable ones.
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post Jun 17 2007, 10:16 PM

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thing is.. people like me don't where to look for some stuff.

The only place I know apart from PC Depot in Penang.. is Prangin Mall and that lousy BJ.

Would be happy to have some recommenation.. especially place to get a higher end stuff... for example.. 8800GTS / HD2900XT?? I never see such high end stuff before in any place in Penang sad.gif
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post Jun 17 2007, 10:34 PM

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try gadgetzone? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2007, 10:44 PM

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where is that gadgetzone?? hmm.gif

::EDIT::

sweat.gif doh.gif Found it... laugh.gif


But any other shop besides that?? Need more variety in Penang icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 18 2007, 10:45 AM


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well,what i can say is,penang pc shop all supply mostly on low end stuff,even gadget zone,most the time when i ask them the things,they cant answrr me or say "this one i'm not very clear lo..."
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post Jun 18 2007, 10:51 AM

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Which means.. bulk/garage sales in LowYat is still the best way to get high-end gc and so on for penangites... sad.gif

Oh well...


*By the way.. some forumers mentioned to me the name SwissPac or so... where is this shop?
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coz penang people don't earn as much as kl people, so they spend less on computers, that logic isn't it?
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 17 2007, 10:11 PM)
Shops at BJ really lousy.
If you really need to get something fro BJ, make sure you go to those more reputable ones.
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Yeah, thats right. If the shops slaughter people , we boycott them 100% .
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post Jun 18 2007, 04:01 PM

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LoL.. I never dare to buy stuff from BJ yet.. only dare to buy from Prangin Mall as of now... unless there is some shop in BJ you guys would recommend...

And even so.. the only place I dare to go in Prangin is Vertex Distributor. Got my Enermax from them...
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Maybe you can try Makson at Bukit Jambul, very good service and with reasonable prices.
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jun 18 2007, 04:01 PM)
LoL.. I never dare to buy stuff from BJ yet.. only dare to buy from Prangin Mall as of now... unless there is some shop in BJ you guys would recommend...

And even so.. the only place I dare to go in Prangin is Vertex Distributor. Got my Enermax from them...
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Haha Bro,Vertex is distributor for Enermax ma. So u buy from them definately no doubt. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(HangKasturi @ Jun 18 2007, 06:08 PM)
If im looking for computer items at BJ, i will visit MixTech. Their reputation is good and the price is cheap compare to others.
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Thx Bro, Hope got chance to deal with you. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(A1700 @ Jun 18 2007, 08:33 PM)
Maybe you can try Makson at  Bukit Jambul, very good service and with reasonable prices.
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post Jun 18 2007, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 14 2007, 07:02 PM)
want to complain this no kind retail shop which is 4th floor in Penang shopping complex Bukit Jambul.

This is the last tiem i will go there,seeing me never buy things from them,their service is sucks

i went inside to find thermalpaste,the boss (Ric*y the name) know my just ask for fun,get a AS5 for me and say,this thermalpaste is the best one,sell u rm48.(WTF,think i'm noob?)

then i say no want,nothing so special,then he get a Mahhantan Thermalpaste for me,say,this is the owrst one,sell u RM18....(WTFWTFWTFWTF, vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif this thermalpaste only rm4 in Pristine,think i stupid?)

I laugh and walk out the shop.

newbie pls be careful,this shop really killing ppl,especially those dont know much about pc.

ppl selling rm25,they selling rm48,what do u think of this kind of shop?

think we r al noob and stupid,dont ever deal with him again. mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Haha... Actually, I used to work in 4 computer shops before. AArado, Keypoint, Mega Online and PCC.

PCC was good but the boss' attitude towards his suppliers caused the shop's downfall.
Keypoint is a cut throat company which tries to cheats every customer they can find.
AArado is just another small time shop owned by a retired uncle trying to survive by selling stuff with high price.
Mega Online doesn't really focus on Computers but accessories. Lots of complaints against them before but that actually depends on your luck on which employee is serving you.

Ricky is just the adopted son of the real boss.

QUOTE(A1700 @ Jun 18 2007, 08:33 PM)
Maybe you can try Makson at  Bukit Jambul, very good service and with reasonable prices.
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Trust me, That's the last shop you'll want to go in Penang. I used to work in Keypoint which is also one of the worst shop in Penang, and Keypoint is Makson's distributor. So sometimes, the person from Makson will come to Keypoint's HQ to test some hardware and if you listen to what they usually talk about, you'll surely want to stay away from Makson. (Hint: Cheat people via hardware)

Good Shops in Penang: rclxm9.gif
Gadget Zone (Jack [Lowyat nickname:Silance] does not work there anymore though, but there's still lots of good employees there)
Active Xtreme (Some complaints but still good overall)
Swisspac (Expensive though but great service and lots of products)
PCDepot (Okay service, lots of stuff and has a proper procedure for everything)
ZEON (But they only sell MP3 players mostly)


Bad shops in Penang: mad.gif
Keypoint (I worked there, I know how they lie and cheat. Even some of the experts can be cheated easily. Lots of lawsuits has been filed againts this company yet their lawyers [Karpal Singh, you know? the DAP politician/lawyer] manages to find loopholes in the law)
Makson (Bad quality products, don't take responsibility when their products malfunctions.)
ICS (Though they do supply some office computers, They often try to cheat the customers. They give you best quotations and good hardware specs so the experts will give good comments. Then they will conveniently "forget" to install an additional piece of RAM or "accidentally" install a lower end graphics card or processor for you)

Personally, I still go to some of the shops for some instant hardware. then, upgrades are best from Lowyat.net smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2007, 09:34 PM


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active xtreme not that good,really disaapointing me really....
swisspac,good service and got a lot of thing for sale,but their price is killing
makson,i never deal with them so far,dont have the hardwares that i looking
mixtech,i supported long away.
pristine,last time good,now no more.
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post Jun 18 2007, 09:35 PM

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Seriously, if you're from Sg Dua USM area, you would know that Makson should be avoided.

By the way n305er, i never seen you mention Pristine Wireless.
IMHO, pristine service is way better than GZ and others. This is from feedbacks i get from my other friends as well.
So if anyone needs to get stuff from BJ, either drop by Pristine or GZ(I personally dislike BJ GZ)

@Phoenixwunin
I was wondering why you never went to One Stop?
SHops in One Stop which are ok, Pristine, GZ and Activextreme.
Btw, for high end stuff, find a fellow forumer Karom. He's from butterworth, so you might be able to COD with him. Saves you the hassel to find high end stuffs in shops.
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PCdepot,using RMA hardwares and selling as new,stupid warranty (LCD manufacturer giving 3 years,but they told customer 1 year only)
AArado,what can i say?
GZ,so far ok,but see which guy serve u.

alright,then pls tell us,where can we find all those rare or high performance hardwares in penang?

(i dont think so we can find it.) rclxms.gif

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@meno,

I've not bought anything from Pristine before or do not realize about the shop's name if I've ever been to Pristine. So therefore I can't give my comments about them. tongue.gif

AceCombat,
Well, tell me about it...
I've been trying to scout around for a good Lian Li casing but it seems that there's no one in Penang carrying the brand of Casings anymore. sad.gif

Added on June 19, 2007, 12:56 amWell Well, I've just noticed that the Pristine forum is led by silence. No wonder you guys say that it's good. silence used to be from GZ as I've said earlier. smile.gif



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hmmm most of the time i'll go to PC-depot... due to cheaper price compare to others
or u guys can try out CMS or CPT... cheaper price if u're a dealer tho =)
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hmmm most of the time i'll go to PC-depot... due to cheaper price compare to others
or u guys can try out CMS or CPT... cheaper price if u're a dealer tho =)
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CMS & CPT..Both is distributor..For sure their price is cheap but not every product though... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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CMS & CPT..Both is distributor..For sure their price is cheap but not every product though... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Sorry, but where is CMS & CPT?
Is it 1 shop or 2 shop?
Sorry for the noob question...
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I would never buy anything from PG shops. they are overpriced, the only shop i find it reasonable is Pristine. Oh well, we have the bulk n garage here, so no worries.
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My experiences with Penang shops

Pristine Wireless -My favourite, very reliable service, and until the workers changed recently they were also very friendly and informative. Current workers still quite friendly, but kind of blur blur. At least they still process RMAs properly. Prices sometimes not the best, but the service more than makes up for it.

Gadgetzone -Good shop, ok service, but sometimes lousy selection of high performance stuff. They tend to prefer selling so called 'high end stuff ' which noobs tend to buy. RMA is very slow, usually more than a month.

Active Xtreme -Nice high end stuff here, but sometime pricey. And they only sell certain brands, eg Abit, Thermaltake, Logitech.

PC depot -Sometimes have good prices, but a lot of high end stuff is hard to find there. Good place to shop for casings and LCDs though, or just to have a look. Place is like a showroom.

Sim Technology -great place to get accessories and cables. Good price, decent RMA. And he has a lot of interesting fans..lots and lots of fans (kipas la, not peminat)

Mega Online - Rather unremakable shop. Prices are hardly ever competitive and the stuff is often boring.

AArado -like mentioned, massively overpriced shop in BJ. Not much worth getting except a few hard-to-find accessories. The guy is good at talking though..probably how he convince people to buy his !@#!$ expensive stuff.

High end stuff at good prices is very hard to find in Penang..get from bulk also easier..

QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jun 18 2007, 10:51 AM)
Which means.. bulk/garage sales in LowYat is still the best way to get high-end gc and so on for penangites... sad.gif

Oh well...
*By the way.. some forumers mentioned to me the name SwissPac or so... where is this shop?
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SwissPac is in the middle of BJ, about 5-7 shops to the left of Gadget Zone

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Wah , How come this thread become good and bad shop located at Penang. Why dont we just create a thread that do a vote for those shop.

Gadget Zone
Pristine Wireless
Swisspac
ActiveExtreme
SkyGate - Cheap Price Ever
Mega Online
Makson
PC Depot
ICS
AArado
SIM Technology
Zeon
KeyPoint


For Me I Will Vote Mix Technology tongue.gif

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What bout skygate technology, i used to get my stuff from them and they are quite cheap too.
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QUOTE(silence @ Jun 19 2007, 01:14 PM)
Wah , How come this thread become good and bad shop located at Penang. Why dont we just create a thread that do a vote for those shop.

Gadget Zone
Pristine Wireless
Swisspac
ActiveExtreme
Mega Online
Makson
PC Depot
ICS
AArado
SIM Technology
Zeon
KeyPoint
For Me I Will Vote Mix Technology  tongue.gif
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knn laa u vote like that hahahaha

most important when buying pc stuff is know what you buying..do some research on ths thing you wana buy..
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QUOTE(silence @ Jun 19 2007, 01:14 PM)
Wah , How come this thread become good and bad shop located at Penang. Why dont we just create a thread that do a vote for those shop.

Gadget Zone
Pristine Wireless
Swisspac
ActiveExtreme
Mega Online
Makson
PC Depot
ICS
AArado
SIM Technology
Zeon
KeyPoint
For Me I Will Vote Mix Technology  tongue.gif
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Ei bro..Why the shop u vote I can't find in your list one??? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 01:23 PM)
knn laa u vote like that hahahaha

most important when buying pc stuff is know what you buying..do some research on ths thing you wana buy..
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Oi Bro, my service not good meh ? If good u also need to vote on Mix Tech ma.  tongue.gif
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PowerSlide no good people... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Vote me better..Best service for best people... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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wan me vote can one..but see you both know what to do boh 1st hahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 01:49 PM)
wan me vote can one..but see you both know what to do boh 1st hahaha
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intel c2q

or kai siao me some sui chabo

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8800ultra X2

intel c2q

or kai siao me some sui chabo

choose one  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 18 2007, 09:35 PM)
@Phoenixwunin
I was wondering why you never went to One Stop?
SHops in One Stop which are ok, Pristine, GZ and Activextreme.
Btw, for high end stuff, find a fellow forumer Karom. He's from butterworth, so you might be able to COD with him. Saves you the hassel to find high end stuffs in shops.
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Err... fogive my noobness (no.. really..)
but where is this one stop??
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 03:07 PM)
8800ultra X2

intel c2q

or kai siao me some sui chabo

choose one  tongue.gif
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Errr... Prangin Mall got sui chabo a lot, if u wan fast & instant go to City Pub la... tongue.gif

btw... My Vote goes to... Skygate... Mix Technology i heard good oso, but i kenot vote yet, coz i never been BJ so long d... muahahahaha
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8800ultra X2

intel c2q

or kai siao me some sui chabo

choose one  tongue.gif
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My vote go to MixTech ....... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jun 19 2007, 02:29 PM)
Err... fogive my noobness (no.. really..)
but where is this one stop??
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Midlands One Stop.
Here you go:
http://my.pagenation.com/pen/One-stop%20Mi...0.305_5.433.map
Most of the IT shops are on the 5th floor IIRC.
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Uncle Jack i vote for u...

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I love u Jason wub.gif ........when u gonna pass me the Wifi PCI card.
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Uncle Jack i vote for u...

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I love u Jason  wub.gif ........when u gonna pass me the Wifi PCI card.
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Aiks ... Who r u ? Anyway Thx.
Jason owe u wifi card ar ???



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I'm Jason secret admirer wub.gif .... No laaa he promise come to my house to install pci wifi card...Till now i still waiting with flower in my hand..... tongue.gif
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I'm Jason secret admirer  wub.gif .... No laaa he promise come to my house to install pci wifi card...Till now i still waiting with flower in my hand..... tongue.gif
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Haha .. IC. When he at Pristine time he promise u ? Or when at Mix Tech time ?






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I know him at Mixtech. So handsome that time when he explain to me about wifi rclxm9.gif . I try to ask him to come to my house to install the pci wifi card but he don't do onsite. So i'm still hoping and praying to god he will change his mind. So uncle jack pls and i beg u pls lets abg jason come to my house for 2-3 hours. I promise i be gentle. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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How many char por i intro to you already. But after u play then u dont want liao. Haiz  doh.gif
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you mai luan luan kong har.. tongue.gif

ah b.u.m has promise intro me a few china mali mui mui chai liao..so i vote for jactech hahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 06:47 PM)
you mai luan luan kong har.. tongue.gif

ah b.u.m has promise intro me a few china mali mui mui chai liao..so i vote for jactech hahaha
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No bro..Computech liao...No more with Jactech liao...Shop location at BJ but I sell mostly accessories..As for hardware some need to back to back order... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Yo bro silence..I got my vote liao..wakakaka...

Added on June 19, 2007, 7:53 pm
QUOTE(Tenuk @ Jun 19 2007, 06:38 PM)
I know him at Mixtech. So handsome that time when he explain to me about wifi  rclxm9.gif . I try to ask him to come to my house to install the pci wifi card but he don't do onsite. So i'm still hoping and praying to god he will change his mind. So uncle jack pls and i beg u pls lets abg jason come to my house for 2-3 hours. I promise i be gentle. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Wow....He is very very handsome...He's the one...The better man...Face like David Beckham...Body like Silvestre Stallone...Height around the same with Michael Jordan... thumbup.gif shakehead.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Tenuk @ Jun 19 2007, 06:38 PM)
I know him at Mixtech. So handsome that time when he explain to me about wifi  rclxm9.gif . I try to ask him to come to my house to install the pci wifi card but he don't do onsite. So i'm still hoping and praying to god he will change his mind. So uncle jack pls and i beg u pls lets abg jason come to my house for 2-3 hours. I promise i be gentle. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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OK .. I try to arrange the time with him. No worry. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 06:47 PM)
you mai luan luan kong har.. tongue.gif

ah b.u.m has promise intro me a few china mali mui mui chai liao..so i vote for jactech hahaha
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Walao eh , i intro so many siao mei mei below 18 to u ... u play liao then cabut doh.gif

QUOTE(b.u.m @ Jun 19 2007, 07:50 PM)
No bro..Computech liao...No more with Jactech liao...Shop location at BJ but I sell mostly accessories..As for hardware some need to back to back order... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif Yo bro silence..I got my vote liao..wakakaka...

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Wow....He is very very handsome...He's the one...The better man...Face like David Beckham...Body like Silvestre Stallone...Height around the same with Michael Jordan... thumbup.gif  shakehead.gif  thumbup.gif
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Haha ... This Power is Hamsap Lin ... tongue.gif




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Walao eh , i intro so many siao mei mei below 18 to u ... u play liao then cabut  doh.gif

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Wow...Powerslide...I see u si bun si bun...rupa rupa nya inside... shakehead.gif
Hey, if u wan tiong kok char bor, i got friend got kang tao...how many u want? brows.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 19 2007, 10:14 PM)
Wow...Powerslide...I see u si bun si bun...rupa rupa nya inside... shakehead.gif
Hey, if u wan tiong kok char bor, i got friend got kang tao...how many u want? brows.gif
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Then Bulk tiong kok char bor lo, postage fee?? age of item?? Location of Dealing?? Most important specifications!!! Warranty Coverage???
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if bulk ar find those skin fair fair n smotth smooth one but dowan below 20 ar..wan more mature got more experience brows.gif saya pun manyak suka slim slim type punya ar laugh.gif

show some piclaa @meno taiko..no pic no talk tongue.gif

this b.u.m..should putlaa b.u.m tech baru ngam laugh.gif

and this silence aso one hamsap fella one i noe..drive macili s class duno tiap how many char bo liao sweat.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 10:33 PM)
if bulk ar find those skin fair fair n smotth smooth one but dowan below 20 ar..wan more mature got more experience  brows.gif saya pun manyak suka slim slim type punya ar  laugh.gif

show some piclaa @meno taiko..no pic no talk  tongue.gif

this b.u.m..should putlaa b.u.m tech baru ngam  laugh.gif

and this silence aso one hamsap fella one i noe..drive macili s class duno tiap how many char bo liao  sweat.gif
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Wahh...Bro Power...Slim slim I scare u too hardcore can kill people wan lo....Cannot slim slim la...A bit bhak bhak okie la for u...Ya lo...Below 20 no kung - fu...Muz got kung - fu baru live life cool... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Then Bulk tiong kok char bor lo, postage fee?? age of item?? Location of Dealing?? Most important specifications!!! Warranty Coverage???
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Hmm, if really a lot interested maybe can bulk...Postage ar, i think self collect better lar...Lol.
Warranty? rclxub.gif Wat warranty u want, u want confirm sealed in the box brand new untouched units? laugh.gif

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 19 2007, 10:23 PM)
Wei Wei Wei.
Engrish please. [Copied from Mr. Ianho] laugh.gif
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Here no engrand, nvm i translate for you.
Tiong kok=China
Char Bor=Gals

QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 19 2007, 10:33 PM)
if bulk ar find those skin fair fair n smotth smooth one but dowan below 20 ar..wan more mature got more experience  brows.gif saya pun manyak suka slim slim type punya ar  laugh.gif

show some piclaa @meno taiko..no pic no talk  tongue.gif

this b.u.m..should putlaa b.u.m tech baru ngam  laugh.gif

and this silence aso one hamsap fella one i noe..drive macili s class duno tiap how many char bo liao  sweat.gif
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Wah...Pics ar...hmm, if u guys seriously want can tell u the location, u guys go see together and choose which one suits your taste... brows.gif


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Wahh...Bro Power...Slim slim I scare u too hardcore can kill people wan lo....Cannot slim slim la...A bit bhak bhak okie la for u...Ya lo...Below 20 no kung - fu...Muz got kung - fu baru live life cool... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Woi, bhak ge ho sut, san ge diok kut. Slim slim one banyak kena tulang lar. Dun worry, all should be ripe and sweet juicy one, over ripe one also got... laugh.gif



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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jun 19 2007, 10:11 PM)
Then Bulk tiong kok char bor lo, postage fee?? age of item?? Location of Dealing?? Most important specifications!!! Warranty Coverage???
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how many u wan , when u wan , i arrange with my fren

lol

not kidding man..i got lobang for it..but i rather not touch it..
if u seriously want it..then i intro u real clean girl better
if not u die with aids , me aso not veli happy



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This is not kopitiam area lar.
Stop all this talking about "Char Bor" before i report to the mods. laugh.gif

This place is for discussing about computers shops at penang la. laugh.gif
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so lucky for penagites.....
lots of shops to choose from......
me at ipoh dont have many choice.....
all the shop only sell 1 or 2 brands.......
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 20 2007, 12:53 AM)
Wei wei wei.
This is not kopitiam area lar.
Stop all this talking about "Char Bor" before i report to the mods. laugh.gif

This place is for discussing about computers shops at penang la. laugh.gif
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Huhu...Shawty mad liao... tongue.gif
Char Bor also closly related to computer shops mar...U know those shops with Sui Char Bor sure get veli veli high rating from customers one...laugh.gif

Joking only...This will be my last post about Char Bor, so those who are interested can drop by Kompleks Bukit Jambul, sambil sambil visit computer shop, can also visit those Char Bor staying at BJ Court. brows.gif

Wakakakakakaka....

Btw, Guys, back to topic.
Recently i realised some major pricing changes in Penang shops. Their prices are now much lower than they used to be. Now, it seems like there is not much difference between KL and Penang price. Not like it used to be where price of single items will differ up to tens of ringgits. Now, very marginal only.

Prospeed_ballz,
Ipoh to Penang veli fast oni mar, one and a half hours. Just come Penang find the stuff u want lar. But u said Ipoh shops only sell 1-2 brands, i got an Ipoh friend who managed to find DFI motherboards in Ipoh during NForce2 days...I even have trouble finding them in KL. laugh.gif
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Wow wow wow. Suddenly the thread of computer shop in Penang change to "Tiong Kok Poh" bulak ..

*Where got nice nice tiong kok poh in Penang area?" tongue.gif
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things get out of hand when come to char boh talk laugh.gif

i also realise this @meno..prices in penang are getting lower or some stuff on par with lyp price but not mucf choice..many stuff have to be ordered

still i can have choice which is bulk here..but support bulk means unker silence and unker b.u.m no business tongue.gif



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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 20 2007, 05:18 PM)
things get out of hand when come to char boh talk  laugh.gif

i also realise this @meno..prices in penang are getting lower or some stuff on par with lyp price but not mucf choice..many stuff have to be ordered

still i can have choice which is bulk here..but support bulk means unker silence and unker b.u.m no business  tongue.gif
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Ya , Penang price is reasonable now but less choices.
So Brother Power dont buy from BULK lo , then me and B.U.M can survice with ur support. smile.gif



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Ya , Penang price is reasonable now but less choices.
So Brother Power dont buy from BULK lo , then me and B.U.M can survice with ur support. smile.gif
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Ya lo...That Power always buy from bulk...No offence...Now Penang price is much more lower than K.L price...It's a good thing also...Customer no chance to take K.L price to push our price here... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 20 2007, 06:18 PM)
things get out of hand when come to char boh talk  laugh.gif

i also realise this @meno..prices in penang are getting lower or some stuff on par with lyp price but not mucf choice..many stuff have to be ordered

still i can have choice which is bulk here..but support bulk means unker silence and unker b.u.m no business  tongue.gif
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yaya.. agree, recently penang hardware's price is very competition..

It is good for penang buyer tongue.gif

purchase Bulk sale always need some time to get the item, i think still a lot of people prefer buy stuff from shop.. smile.gif


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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 20 2007, 06:51 PM)
yaya.. agree, recently penang hardware's price is very competition..

It is good for penang buyer  tongue.gif

purchase Bulk sale always need some time to get the item, i think still a lot of people prefer buy stuff from shop..  smile.gif
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Hahaha...Bro Darnell...Good for Penang buyer... biggrin.gif laugh.gif thumbup.gif ...Bad for Penang seller... cry.gif sad.gif sweat.gif
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wah,me 2 days no online and this thread become like that pula,Jason pun ada,Jack pun ada,Ah Loon pun ada,what's going on?every hunting for tiong kok po is it?
haha....i see u all so stim when talking tiong kok po,then i have to ask for some tiong kok po and go buy from ur ppl shop there and ask for many many discount.

well,even the price is become cheaper,there is no point for me too,cause there are too less choice for me,all the low-end hardwares,and no high end stuff one,tell me,which shop in penang got Aqua Tank from Asus?which shop got SLi 8800?which shop got selling MX-1?which shop got selling Lian-Li?

see,none of above we can get from penang....so sad cry.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 20 2007, 07:51 PM)
wah,me 2 days no online and this thread become like that pula,Jason pun ada,Jack pun ada,Ah Loon pun ada,what's going on?every hunting for tiong kok po is it?
haha....i see u all so stim when talking tiong kok po,then i have to ask for some tiong kok po and go buy from ur ppl shop there and ask for many many discount.

well,even the price is become cheaper,there is no point for me too,cause there are too less choice for me,all the low-end hardwares,and no high end stuff one,tell me,which shop in penang got Aqua Tank from Asus?which shop got SLi 8800?which shop got selling MX-1?which shop got selling Lian-Li?

see,none of above we can get from penang....so sad cry.gif
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Crowded...Rojak topic...1st is talkin bout Aarado...Then talkin bout vote this vote that...Then tiong kok po....Then....Dunno what next.... doh.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 20 2007, 07:51 PM)
wah,me 2 days no online and this thread become like that pula,Jason pun ada,Jack pun ada,Ah Loon pun ada,what's going on?every hunting for tiong kok po is it?
haha....i see u all so stim when talking tiong kok po,then i have to ask for some tiong kok po and go buy from ur ppl shop there and ask for many many discount.

well,even the price is become cheaper,there is no point for me too,cause there are too less choice for me,all the low-end hardwares,and no high end stuff one,tell me,which shop in penang got Aqua Tank from Asus?which shop got SLi 8800?which shop got selling MX-1?which shop got selling Lian-Li?

see,none of above we can get from penang....so sad cry.gif
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Wahlan...
Lian-li only ATE sell lar, 2 branches. 1 in Lowyat, 1 in Klang, other places no Ah lian except para importer i dunno lar.

All those stuff u want i think u can order lar...U willing to pay, Impossible Unker Silence and Unker B.U.M duwan business mar.

And the MX-1, buy from bulk lar easy, small small item only mar..lol

Btw, it's a good idea finding tiong kok po to buy from them...Lol, manatau dapat free semua...Lol...
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Hahaha...Bro Darnell...Good for Penang buyer... biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  thumbup.gif ...Bad for Penang seller... cry.gif  sad.gif  sweat.gif
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HI, BRO B.U.M..

yaya, it is not easy for seller to survive in PENANG..... tongue.gif tongue.gif

PCDEPOT always give a competitive price.

I saw one computer shop in BJ alrd closed. sad.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 20 2007, 09:53 PM)
HI, BRO B.U.M..

yaya, it is not easy for seller to survive in PENANG..... tongue.gif  tongue.gif

PCDEPOT always give a competitive price.

I saw one computer shop in BJ alrd closed. sad.gif
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Computer shop close at BJ???Which one Bro Darnell???I didn't heard of a computer shop close in BJ...
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Computer shop close at BJ???Which one Bro Darnell???I didn't heard of a computer shop close in BJ...
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oh.. opposite the E square notebook shop , I saw one computer shop didnt open d?
Or they just go for holiday.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 20 2007, 09:53 PM)
HI, BRO B.U.M..

yaya, it is not easy for seller to survive in PENANG..... tongue.gif  tongue.gif

PCDEPOT always give a competitive price.

I saw one computer shop in BJ alrd closed. sad.gif
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oh.. opposite the E square notebook shop ,  I saw one computer shop didnt open d?
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Huh ? Computer shop close ?? Izzit true ? Which shop ? Name of the shop ??
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Oh ... that shop is JSCOM. JSCOM not closed , just moving to the other location only. But this few month sales really slow , whole market also slow not only computer hardware.  sweat.gif
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penang ppl are kiamsiap perhaps? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

not much demand for higher end stuff ppl like unker silence aso cant bring in lor..wat can do if market here like this..sigh
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that's why i say ppl pc shop killing ppl lo,especially the AArado,no wonder the shop got no business la.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 21 2007, 02:22 PM)
@meno,i know pak cik Jack and Pak Cik Loon willing to offer,but i'm looking for Seasonic ah,Tagan ah,OCZ, ahBFG ah,LeadTek ah,Gainward ah,ECS ah,Silverstone ah,even i wanna get MSI,they tell me,what for u looking for a such bad brand?

come on man,MSI is good,they are great,last time only they made a mistake,even the boss of Prisitne also ask me,:"why u looking for MSI?"
u see ah,even a boss,also dont know MSI is back into action,always Assus,GayGayByte,A little Bit, I laugh.gif them....

so,what can i say for pc shop in penang?

"trust me,Gaygaybyte and Assus are the best one!"-(this is what i will get fro the guy who serve me in pc shop,oooppssss.....forget to tell u ppl,i'm a noob)

(##no offense ya pak cik Jack and pak cik Loon) tongue.gif
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Seasonic (Malaysia got authorised distro meh?), Tagan (even in Lowyat also only ATE has Tagan laugh.gif), OCZ(activextreme got OCZ lar), BFG(i think the only shop in Penang which has it doesn't even have a shop. laugh.gif "Karom Enterprise"), Leadtek also hard to find in Lowyat lar nowadays.

MSI...ROFL (FYI i hate MSI, eventhough i'm using one, if i can an a little bit for my Barton, to hell with the MSI...Lol) To me, MSI already on my black list, except if they could beat Diamond Flower International then only i reconsider... laugh.gif )

Gaygaybyte good for everyday use, and some of the LGA775 mobo ok wat. But only average IMHO.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 21 2007, 06:41 PM)
that's why i say ppl pc shop killing ppl lo,especially the AArado,no wonder the shop got no business la.
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Shop to pass time only, normal lar. Sell to 1 customer, whole week dun need sell anything d...Lol... whistling.gif

Hey, how bout this, Powerslide, Acecombat, you guys go put kaw kaw punya poison among Penang comp users. Then after that when enough people get poisoned, then i start a shop selling all those brands you guys want... laugh.gif
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tats why i am so scared to shop at computer shop alone. since im a newbie myself D:
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tats why i am so scared to shop at computer shop alone. since im a newbie myself D:
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tats why i am so scared to shop at computer shop alone. since im a newbie myself D:
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MSI is the worst RMA service, coz RMA claims took at least 2-3 month... An advise think twice b4 u get MSI.... Thats y local shops don dare carry MSI anymore... Yup its true last MSI is good, but not now... icon_rolleyes.gif
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well,@meno,
aiyo,in KL shop can be disto,but why in penang no even a shop become its disto leh?ppl in LYP can do but why ppl in penang so suck ah?
laugh.gif u wan me and powerslide go poison ppl,then at least they must know what is the different mah,u know la,in penang,because of low-end stuff,they all stuck at low end stuff,do u think they will pay rm500 for a psu?i dont think for penang ppl will do.

@zeustronic T
well,actually RMA is depend on the supplier,not on the factory(MSI),it takes long tiem because the supplier is lazy,if the supplier is fast,u can get ur RMA-ed hardwares very fast,a factory can produce more than 100 units of mobo for a day, laugh.gif
well,actually is easy to RMA for factory,u can just send the mobo and exchange one to one for u,then after they repair the mobo,can just put inside a new box and send as new mah,just the supplier no wan to do like that only,they afraid maafan....(for hardwares that's in one-to-one period)
Then as for sending back for repair (almost a year product,they wont one to one for u mah right?),they send to HQ,repair and send back,only the longest one take time 2 weeks,but u know why so long?because supplier never chase them,if can be an engineer or technician for MSI,u must be not bad one,do u need one month to repair a mobo?(MSI surely fire u if u so slow.)all RMA proceed is depend on the supplier,if they are good and hardworking,u will get the RMA-ed hardwares very soon.
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I'm refering to suppliers actually, & the quality wise its all depend on luck... Penangites usually looking low or mid range pc... for the rich they go for branded clone doh.gif ... If really wanna hunt for high-end or rare hardware, then go Sim Lim Square, Singapore... U must go have look Penang vs KL volume b4 u make any comparison...

@meno

Poison others not gonna work in Penang, customer request is reasonable price & quality services... U must know how manage it, am i rite Silence??

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well,@meno,
aiyo,in KL shop can be disto,but why in penang no even a shop become its disto leh?ppl in LYP can do but why ppl in penang so suck ah?
laugh.gif u wan me and powerslide go poison ppl,then at least they must know what is the different mah,u know la,in penang,because of low-end stuff,they all stuck at low end stuff,do u think they will pay rm500 for a psu?i dont think for penang ppl will do.
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@meno

Poison others not gonna work in Penang, customer request is reasonable price & quality services... U must know how manage it, am i rite Silence??
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tiong kok po, "Peng,Leng,Zheng!"

same la....but not one of them,me wanna use for beyond limit. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 22 2007, 02:37 PM)
well,@meno,
aiyo,in KL shop can be disto,but why in penang no even a shop become its disto leh?ppl in LYP can do but why ppl in penang so suck ah?
laugh.gif u wan me and powerslide go poison ppl,then at least they must know what is the different mah,u know la,in penang,because of low-end stuff,they all stuck at low end stuff,do u think they will pay rm500 for a psu?i dont think for penang ppl will do.

@zeustronic  T
well,actually RMA is depend on the supplier,not on the factory(MSI),it takes long tiem because the supplier is lazy,if the supplier is fast,u can get ur RMA-ed hardwares very fast,a factory can produce more than 100 units of mobo for a day, laugh.gif
well,actually is easy to RMA for factory,u can just send the mobo and exchange one to one for u,then after they repair the mobo,can just put inside a new box and send as new mah,just the supplier no wan to do like that only,they afraid maafan....(for hardwares that's in one-to-one period)
Then as for sending back for repair (almost a year product,they wont one to one for u mah right?),they send to HQ,repair and send back,only the longest one take time 2 weeks,but u know why so long?because supplier never chase them,if can be an engineer or technician for MSI,u must be not bad one,do u need one month to repair a mobo?(MSI surely fire u if u so slow.)all RMA proceed is depend on the supplier,if they are good and hardworking,u will get the RMA-ed hardwares very soon.
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I am using a MSI motherboard b4.
It cant detect my Kingston value DDR ram (Hynix chipset)

then, i try it with Asrock and intel motherboard also can use. sad.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 22 2007, 05:35 PM)
tiong kok po, "Peng,Leng,Zheng!"

same la....but not one of them,me wanna use for beyond limit. rclxms.gif
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When they habis korek your money then i see if you'll say "peng leng zheng" again. Those are a very dangerous species laugh.gif .

Btw Darnell, i support you...Blacklist MSI.
AceCombat, y you like MSI so much? Got any of their product which is superbly good meh recently? If got let me know, wanna have a look also.
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 22 2007, 10:19 PM)
When they habis korek your money then i see if you'll say "peng leng zheng" again. Those are a very dangerous species laugh.gif .

Btw Darnell, i support you...Blacklist MSI.
AceCombat, y you like MSI so much? Got any of their product which is superbly good meh recently? If got let me know, wanna have a look also.
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Then, I still don't believe, I still choose MSI NVIDIA NF4 Ultra K8N Neo4 as my motherboard now.

Sometimes when I enter BIOS , it suddenly hang sweat.gif

Need to restart.. shakehead.gif

Although it is not a big problem, but ..I really lose confidence to MSI alrd. sad.gif

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Go & see Swiss Pac Recourses Sdn. Bhd. Bukit Jambul Shopping Complex .... even qualified Intel Engineers went there ... with unblock Intel cpu .. which shop u go ?
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I compare the Swiss Pac pricelist with others Computer shop in Penang before.

shakehead.gif a bit expensive than others.
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 22 2007, 10:42 PM)
Then, I still don't believe, I still choose MSI NVIDIA NF4 Ultra K8N Neo4 as my motherboard now.

Sometimes when I enter BIOS , it suddenly hang  sweat.gif

Need to restart..  shakehead.gif

Although it is not a big problem, but ..I really lose confidence to MSI alrd.  sad.gif
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MSI was a very good board before. But now really bad. RMA need 2 months to clear. And the quality of the board keep on decreasing. Not like last time already . Very laubeh now. But there is still a demand for it. A lot of Malays like to buy MSI board. Dont know why hmm.gif
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cheaper maybe??

Quality wise... I don't know but my friend do have some 'nightmare' experience with his MSI board... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(HangKasturi @ Jun 23 2007, 02:11 AM)
MSI was a very good board before. But now really bad. RMA need 2 months to clear. And the quality of the board keep on decreasing. Not like last time already . Very laubeh now. But there is still a demand for it. A lot of Malays like to buy MSI board. Dont know why  hmm.gif
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drool.gif hahhaha....malay ppl always go for a safe brand...MSI has establish for a long time here in malaysia...long time ago MSI brand was quite cheap and good quality..now they S*CK whistling.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 23 2007, 12:04 AM)
I compare the Swiss Pac pricelist with others Computer shop in Penang before.

shakehead.gif  a bit expensive than others.
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Ya, Swisspac more expensive. And also yesterday i happily recieved my Pioneer Sata DVD burner from arc_archive. He got it from Swisspac and never used it, and guess what...I found out it's a faulty drive...LOL, gotta send it back to Arc_archive for my refund and hope he has some fast RMA with Swisspac. I usually just go, and see. Never actually bought anything there as their prices are rather high.

QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jun 23 2007, 02:29 AM)
cheaper maybe??

Quality wise... I don't know but my friend do have some 'nightmare' experience with his MSI board... laugh.gif
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MSI...sucks...Been anti MSI since the T-Bird days. I had an Epox during those days and my friend had an MSI. My T-bird 1000 easily clocks to 1.1-1.2..His T-bird 1.2 on the MSI, when increased FSB by 1mhz the whole bios crashed and board sent for RMA. They do have the OC features, but it just doesn't work. Since then, i was Anti-MSI.(though i'm still using one, check my siggy) Lol...

QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 23 2007, 02:39 AM)
drool.gif hahhaha....malay ppl always go for a safe brand...MSI has establish for a long time here in malaysia...long time ago MSI brand was quite cheap and good quality..now they S*CK whistling.gif
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Established... shakehead.gif
Long time ago i dunno, maybe that was before i knew about hardware...(lol, then it must have been pre 386 days...)
Safe...??? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 23 2007, 05:18 AM)
Ya, Swisspac more expensive. And also yesterday i happily recieved my Pioneer Sata DVD burner from arc_archive. He got it from Swisspac and never used it, and guess what...I found out it's a faulty drive...LOL, gotta send it back to Arc_archive for my refund and hope he has some fast RMA with Swisspac. I usually just go, and see. Never actually bought anything there as their prices are rather high.
MSI...sucks...Been anti MSI since the T-Bird days. I had an Epox during those days and my friend had an MSI. My T-bird 1000 easily clocks to 1.1-1.2..His T-bird 1.2 on the MSI, when increased FSB by 1mhz the whole bios crashed and board sent for RMA. They do have the OC features, but it just doesn't work. Since then, i was Anti-MSI.(though i'm still using one, check my siggy) Lol...
Established...  shakehead.gif
Long time ago i dunno, maybe that was before i knew about hardware...(lol, then it must have been pre 386 days...)
Safe...??? rclxub.gif
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oh.. if u go Bukit jambul, I think u better find Jack or BUM, they always give a nice price compare with others computer shop..

erm.. Sometimes G/Z promotion item also quite cheap. smile.gif
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ya la,they are cheap,but they dont have high end stuff la....

as for MSI,u know ah,give me some time to find the review,i read before,the P965 Platinium of MSI is just a bit lose to DFI 965-S Dark in benchmark u know.....

i'll find it,and show that.

well,i didnt say i like MSI,but last time they really suck,now since P965 chipset,MSI is back into action....
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 23 2007, 12:01 PM)
ya la,they are cheap,but they dont have high end stuff la....

as for MSI,u know ah,give me some time to find the review,i read before,the P965 Platinium of MSI is just a bit lose to DFI 965-S Dark in benchmark u know.....

i'll find it,and show that.

well,i didnt say i like MSI,but last time they really suck,now since P965 chipset,MSI is back into action....
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ohoh.. is it?

If yes, then i am really interested. tongue.gif

Plan to change to C2D later. nod.gif
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cannot find it....
forgot what website already,i know it has comparison betwee,
DFI Dark,Abit Quad GT,MSI P965 Platinium and Gigabyte DS3,4 mobo compare one.

the result is
DFI
MSI
Gigabyte
Lastly Abit
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 23 2007, 11:18 AM)
ohoh.. is it?

If yes, then i am really interested.  tongue.gif

Plan to change to C2D later.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 23 2007, 02:25 PM)
cannot find it....
forgot what website already,i know it has comparison betwee,
DFI Dark,Abit Quad GT,MSI P965 Platinium and Gigabyte DS3,4 mobo compare one.

the result is
DFI
MSI
Gigabyte
Lastly Abit
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Hmm, they might be able to come up with some pretty interesting mobos, but i wonder how reliable are they? Lets just try to have a look. Btw bro, the comparison was made with the DS3 and DS4, how bout the P35 DQ6? brows.gif

I'll try to search around for the review as well, really wanna see what progress did MSI done in these few years...
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yup,pls help me to search around,those all are P965 chipset mah....
but i remember that is the results,no kidding,it just abit lose to DFI
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MSI make good mobo starting with the k8n something model for s939..good clocker even very buggy board..the only thing i like about msi mobo is layout and colour haha..but never can beat DFI in terms of layout..so cable management minded

my P4 msi mobo a horrid one..a year something usage ram slot and vga slot half broken..cant detect the ram and vga card..have to push here push there only work doh.gif
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in selangor also like that...
if u buy pc stuff in LYP, price is ok.
if u buy from sunway pyramid....nose bleeding...some stuff too expensive.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 23 2007, 07:04 PM)
my P4 msi mobo a horrid one..a year something usage ram slot and vga slot half broken..cant detect the ram and vga card..have to push here push there only work  doh.gif
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doh.gif shakehead.gif rclxub.gif
If this mobo gorilla use i still believe lar...But Powerslide wor, i repeat, Powerslide wor... shocking.gif Brother, u actually fake Powerslide is it, actually camouflage gorrila? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 23 2007, 08:09 PM)
in selangor also like that...
if u buy pc stuff in LYP, price is ok.
if u buy from sunway pyramid....nose bleeding...some stuff too expensive.
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It's normal. Easy concept, apply the rules of demand and supply from economics. Where demand is low, means market less competitive, so prices tend to be higher.

While the price change in Penang is not due to the increase in demand which lead to changes in copetition i guess, it's just to save the dying Penang computer business. How many shops left har in Prangin?
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 23 2007, 11:56 PM)
doh.gif  shakehead.gif  rclxub.gif
If this mobo gorilla use i still believe lar...But Powerslide wor, i repeat, Powerslide wor... shocking.gif Brother, u actually fake Powerslide is it, actually camouflage gorrila? hmm.gif
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LoL.. very hard to believe arr??? sweat.gif

haiz... always when I need some stuff I would come here in LYN.. to go all the way to lowYat Plaza is too much la... I wonder why demand is low in Penang?? People dun like technology arr?? sweat.gif
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LoL.. very hard to believe arr??? sweat.gif
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For others i would say possible, but for Powerslide. I dunno lar but i have an impression that Powerslide is uber good in taking care of his stuff (looking at the condition of the TR XP-120 that my friend got from him).

QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jun 24 2007, 12:24 AM)
haiz... always when I need some stuff I would come here in LYN.. to go all the way to lowYat Plaza is too much la... I wonder why demand is low in Penang?? People dun like technology arr?? sweat.gif
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Hmm, Penang people want cheap and good all the time, thats why no market for high end stuff.
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well,what i can say is,penang pc shop all supply mostly on low end stuff,even gadget zone,most the time when i ask them the things,they cant answrr me or say "this one i'm not very clear lo..."
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Or "I have to check first" laugh.gif

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hahaha this @meno..really one laa..the ram slot and vga slot kong itself..how pathetic tell u..take ram or vga card out kenot start liao..hav to push abit here and there lucky it start..frustrating lor..

even now im using noctua U12 but the condition is like new tongue.gif i wear glove to fix it so it dun leave any fingerprint blush.gif
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haha....yup,dont even wanna left a fingerprint over there...me also same.

powerslide,where u get all those hardwares in penang?
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haha..not only me doing same thing tongue.gif

from bulk leh combat bro..penang got aso asus or gigabyte cooler..and the prices sweat.gif
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the price really terrible leh,from rumour i heard that aarado also taking bulk from lyn,(AS5 from Irangan),for rm25,then resell it for rm48...
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 24 2007, 11:14 PM)
the price really terrible leh,from rumour i heard that aarado also taking bulk from lyn,(AS5 from Irangan),for rm25,then resell it for rm48...
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ohoh..like that oh..

But.,. RM48 for AS5? who want to buy leh? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 24 2007, 10:14 PM)
the price really terrible leh,from rumour i heard that aarado also taking bulk from lyn,(AS5 from Irangan),for rm25,then resell it for rm48...
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Bro, got sauce ar?
Lol...Damn, if that shop is doing that, why should we pay the premium when we can get it from bulk ourselves.

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Bro, i thought u said the slot broken mar...(means patah...sweat.gif)
Btw, now only i know u guys wear gloves, no wonder...Lol, next time need to wear gloves when assemble new PC for people also, looks more professional... brows.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 25 2007, 03:59 AM)
Bro, got sauce ar?
Lol...Damn, if that shop is doing that, why should we pay the premium when we can get it from bulk ourselves.

@powerslide
Bro, i thought u said the slot broken mar...(means patah...sweat.gif)
Btw, now only i know u guys wear gloves, no wonder...Lol, next time need to wear gloves when assemble new PC for people also, looks more professional... brows.gif
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ohoh.. i thought only aluminium case need to wear glove?
WHat is the benefit of where glove? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 23 2007, 08:04 PM)
MSI make good mobo starting with the k8n something model for s939..good clocker even very buggy board..the only thing i like about msi mobo is layout and colour haha..but never can beat DFI in terms of layout..so cable management minded

my P4 msi mobo a horrid one..a year something usage ram slot and vga slot half broken..cant detect the ram and vga card..have to push here push there only work  doh.gif
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ai.. my MSI NVIDIA NF4 Ultra K8N Neo4 sometime will hang when i enter Bios leh..
No a big issue la, but just not siok only, need to restart. .. tongue.gif
May be need to try other brand when upgrade later after 22 July smile.gif

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one of my friend told me that aarado do so.

aiyo,to prevent any static electric on my hand,i wear glove,to prevent leave oil (our body got oil) on the hardwares,and of course,fingerprint.
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ohoh.. i thought only aluminium case need to wear glove?
WHat is the benefit of where glove?  hmm.gif

Added on June 25, 2007, 10:23 am
ai.. my MSI NVIDIA NF4 Ultra K8N Neo4 sometime will hang when i enter Bios leh..
No a big issue la, but just not siok only, need to restart. ..  tongue.gif
May be need to try other brand when upgrade later after 22 July  smile.gif
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Benefits of wearing gloves:
If you wear the proper gloves, it prevents static electric as stated by AceCombat. And also the most important thing, finger prints.

Not only aluminium case, even some cheapo case nowadays come with gloss finish which will show fingerprints very obviously. I've got loadsa fingerprints on my Barton 3200+ rig thanks to the gloss finish.

Btw, throw away ur MSI lar, then take my DFI so i can upgrade to AM2...lol...

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 25 2007, 02:56 PM)
one of my friend told me that aarado do so.

aiyo,to prevent any static electric on my hand,i wear glove,to prevent leave oil (our body got oil) on the hardwares,and of course,fingerprint.
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Oil...? Wow, i never thought of that, seriously next time need to wear shirt when i assemble rigs as i usually like to do it half nekid... drool.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 25 2007, 03:56 PM)
one of my friend told me that aarado do so.

aiyo,to prevent any static electric on my hand,i wear glove,to prevent leave oil (our body got oil) on the hardwares,and of course,fingerprint.
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ohoh. to prevent any static electric on my hand, i normally touch the casing for 10 second then only touch the computer part. smile.gif

yalor. fingerprint really a big issue sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Benefits of wearing gloves:
If you wear the proper gloves, it prevents static electric as stated by AceCombat. And also the most important thing, finger prints.

Not only aluminium case, even some cheapo case nowadays come with gloss finish which will show fingerprints very obviously. I've got loadsa fingerprints on my Barton 3200+ rig thanks to the gloss finish.

Btw, throw away ur MSI lar, then take my DFI so i can upgrade to AM2...lol...
Oil...? Wow, i never thought of that, seriously next time need to wear shirt when i assemble rigs as i usually like to do it half nekid... drool.gif
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haha.. I plan to upgrade to C2D after 22 July alrd. tongue.gif

but.. how much you want to let go ? hmm.gif

I think DFI is a high demanded in Lowyat.net..

U can easily sell it. rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 25 2007, 08:58 PM)
ohoh.  to prevent any static electric on my hand, i normally touch the casing for 10 second then only touch the computer part.  smile.gif

yalor. fingerprint really a big issue  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Added on June 25, 2007, 9:01 pm
haha.. I plan to upgrade to C2D after 22 July alrd.  tongue.gif

but.. how much you want to let go ?  hmm.gif

I think DFI is a high demanded in Lowyat.net..

U can easily sell it.  rclxms.gif
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My major concern is about fingerprints. Lol...
Really hate those ugly marks on the casing...
Luckily my main rig is not black and not gloss...

DFI, hmm, high demanded, but not the 939s i think.
I guess it will just be with me till it RIP.
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fcuk that shop !! i hate this type of business fella.
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 12:01 AM)
My major concern is about fingerprints. Lol...
Really hate those ugly marks on the casing...
Luckily my main rig is not black and not gloss...

DFI, hmm, high demanded, but not the 939s i think.
I guess it will just be with me till it RIP.
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yalor. fingerprints make acsing look ugly..
my black casing also get fingerprint... sad.gif

oh.. i think 939 DFI still ok,there is still a lot of 939 overclocker..
.. but the 939 AMD processor .. ... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 12:04 AM)
yalor. fingerprints make acsing look ugly..
my black casing also get fingerprint...  sad.gif

oh.. i think 939 DFI still ok,there is still a lot of 939 overclocker..
.. but the 939 AMD processor .. ... sweat.gif
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Ya, 939 procs very hard to sell now, especially the one me and u using... sweat.gif
I'm still looking for a good old x2 or Opteron x2 which would give me a chance to fully utilise my mobo. Lol, but no hope until now, dun say PG shops, even LYN also hard to find...
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 01:17 AM)
Ya, 939 procs very hard to sell now, especially the one me and u using... sweat.gif
I'm still looking for a good old x2 or Opteron x2 which would give me a chance to fully utilise my mobo. Lol, but no hope until now, dun say PG shops, even LYN also hard to find...
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yalor.. I saw people sell 3000+ for RM95 only(including postage) sweat.gif

oh.. I saw a bulk for Opteron 165 , RM4XX only.
very attractive price.. wub.gif
plan to buy 1 before, but DDR ram is expensive. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 12:55 AM)
yalor.. I saw people sell 3000+ for RM95 only(including postage)  sweat.gif

oh.. I saw a bulk for Opteron 165 , RM4XX only.
very attractive price..  wub.gif
plan to buy 1 before, but DDR ram is expensive.  sweat.gif
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RM4xx, where? Retail or OEM? It would be really tempting me if it was retail.
Btw, DDR is getting expensive, but there's a kit with great value:

Team Extreme Cronos 1GBx2 DDR 500 3-3-3-8 - Price should be around RM470.

Ya lor, the prices for 3000+ is rock bottom now, even Bartons are fetching more than it. Lol...But seriously if the 165 is around RM450 i would do some serious considerations...
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time to upgrade to C2D liao

sell ur system quickly..technology dont wait(but money certainly dun come easy)

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 03:03 AM)
RM4xx, where? Retail or OEM? It would be really tempting me if it was retail.
Btw, DDR is getting expensive, but there's a kit with great value:

Team Extreme Cronos 1GBx2 DDR 500 3-3-3-8 - Price should be around RM470.

Ya lor, the prices for 3000+ is rock bottom now, even Bartons are fetching more than it. Lol...But seriously if the 165 is around RM450 i would do some serious considerations...
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Wahh.. so expensive meh DDR??

Better upgrade the whole spec to C2D tongue.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 04:03 AM)
RM4xx, where? Retail or OEM? It would be really tempting me if it was retail.
Btw, DDR is getting expensive, but there's a kit with great value:

Team Extreme Cronos 1GBx2 DDR 500 3-3-3-8 - Price should be around RM470.

Ya lor, the prices for 3000+ is rock bottom now, even Bartons are fetching more than it. Lol...But seriously if the 165 is around RM450 i would do some serious considerations...
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I found that ,.. but the bulk close alrd notworthy.gif
Have a look
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...8674&hl=OPTERON
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 02:15 PM)
I found that ,.. but the bulk close alrd notworthy.gif
Have a look
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...8674&hl=OPTERON
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Hmm, the RLHH bulk.
I guess Elhh82 might be able to bring some in if there's demand as long as stocks are still available, his X2 3800 bulk is still running at RM340 per piece, but too bad it's OEM. I would prefer retail units more simply because of the warranty.

Now still thinking whether to upgrade this rig, or just save the money and wait to get a whole new rig after Phenom is launched.

Btw, we've swayed way off topic...Lol...
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Hmm, the RLHH bulk.
I guess Elhh82 might be able to bring some in if there's demand as long as stocks are still available, his X2 3800 bulk is still running at RM340 per piece, but too bad it's OEM. I would prefer retail units more simply because of the warranty.

Now still thinking whether to upgrade this rig, or just save the money and wait to get a whole new rig after Phenom is launched.

Btw, we've swayed way off topic...Lol...
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yaya.. it is RLHH bulk, and it is retail some more.

C2D will drop on 22th July, i plan to get one later rclxm9.gif

Talk back to Aarado, I just found out that i bought a harddisc from them before.
So far still in use.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 02:25 PM)
yaya.. it is RLHH bulk, and it is retail some more.

C2D will drop on 22th July, i plan to get one later  rclxm9.gif

Talk back to Aarado, I just found out that i bought a harddisc from them before.
So far still in use..  smile.gif
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Actually, can someone tell me exactly where is the shop?
I know GZ, Pristine, Swisspac and Sim Tech in BJ, so where is this Aarado???
(lol...talk for 7 pages d now only i ask where is this Aarado...soliii.... doh.gif )
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 06:45 PM)
Actually, can someone tell me exactly where is the shop?
I know GZ, Pristine, Swisspac and Sim Tech in BJ, so where is this Aarado???
(lol...talk for 7 pages d now only i ask where is this Aarado...soliii.... doh.gif )
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hhaha..yalor, 7 pages arld, then only u ask where is the shop. drool.gif
It is just beside Pristine Wireless, easy to find it . tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 08:22 PM)
hhaha..yalor, 7 pages arld, then only u ask where is the shop.  drool.gif
It is just beside Pristine Wireless, easy to find it .  tongue.gif
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Ooohh, tat one...
Hmm, never really paid attention to them.
I remember them, yes i remember.

Still remember thos 939 Opteron days when you could get an Opty 146 for around RM800 in LYP, i happen to come across their shop and saw some optys there at the place where they put their processors, so i saja-saja ask them, whats the price for 146. And the fella there, a guy, told me that this one ar, very good processor, server use one, very high end stuff. So i ask him the price and i was very very damn sure that KL was doing around rm800 for 146, he thought that i knew nuts bout comps and just told me, quite high end one lor, 1k++ lor, i was like WTF, but purposely i push him further and ask, how much exactly, so he told me should be around 1,400. WTF, KL doing RM800, he's trying to ask for RM1,400. I walked away and told my friend that i could get 2 of those in KL for that price... doh.gif

Ok, finally i posted something more relevant about Noob killing and Aarado.

I always thought it was the shop at the end of the row where pristine is, the one with an older uncle and selling like ancient stuff for "ancient" price as well...LOL...
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 09:54 PM)
Ooohh, tat one...
Hmm, never really paid attention to them.
I remember them, yes i remember.

Still remember thos 939 Opteron days when you could get an Opty 146 for around RM800 in LYP, i happen to come across their shop and saw some optys there at the place where they put their processors, so i saja-saja ask them, whats the price for 146. And the fella there, a guy, told me that this one ar, very good processor, server use one, very high end stuff. So i ask him the price and i was very very damn sure that KL was doing around rm800 for 146, he thought that i knew nuts bout comps and just told me, quite high end one lor, 1k++ lor, i was like WTF, but purposely i push him further and ask, how much exactly, so he told me should be around 1,400. WTF, KL doing RM800, he's trying to ask for RM1,400. I walked away and told my friend that i could get 2 of those in KL for that price... doh.gif

Ok, finally i posted something more relevant about Noob killing and Aarado.

I always thought it was the shop at the end of the row where pristine is, the one with an older uncle and selling like ancient stuff for "ancient" price as well...LOL...
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wah... RM600 more expensive than Lyn price.
It is too expensive..

One question... how come it still can be there until now ar? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 09:51 PM)
wah... RM600 more expensive than Lyn price.
It is too expensive..

One question... how come it still can be there until now ar?  hmm.gif
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U mean what, those opterons are still there or u mean the shop is still there?
2 possibilities:

1.) Maybe someone just opens it to pass time, not really needing the income from the shop.
2.) Too many water fish in Penang who always gets slaughtered... laugh.gif

I seriously hope it was the 1st reason, if not i can't imagine how many innocent victims... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 11:03 PM)
U mean what, those opterons are still there or u mean the shop is still there?
2 possibilities:

1.) Maybe someone just opens it to pass time, not really needing the  income from the shop.
2.) Too many water fish in Penang who always gets slaughtered... laugh.gif

I seriously hope it was the 1st reason, if not i can't imagine how many innocent victims... shakehead.gif
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oh..I mean the shop...and...

I don't think it is just open for pass time leh sweat.gif sweat.gif

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oh..I mean the shop...and...

I don't think it is just open for pass time leh  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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So it means...water fish??? sweat.gif
Anyhow, i bet the owner will be swearing and cursing if he knows the existence of this thread, and if he is reading this, i hope he will realise the problem with his shop and do something to it.

I wouldn't mind if prices are slightly higher and the shop offers good service, but when the slight premium is almost one extra fold on the price, which dumb ass would actually wanna pay for them.

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DDR is expensive...but the one i stated there should be considered cheap already. High performance ram for this type of price... thumbup.gif

And also, about upgrading to C2D...some of us 939 users still very sayang with our rigs and really feel it's not time to part with them. Anyhow to me, it still serves me well, so maybe Phenom or Penryn will be a better choice, let's just wait a little longer and see. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 11:31 PM)
So it means...water fish??? sweat.gif
Anyhow, i bet the owner will be swearing and cursing if he knows the existence of this thread, and if he is reading this, i hope he will realise the problem with his shop and do something to it.

I wouldn't mind if prices are slightly higher and the shop offers good service, but when the slight premium is almost one extra fold on the price, which dumb ass would actually wanna pay for them.

@Phoenixwunin
DDR is expensive...but the one i stated there should be considered cheap already. High performance ram for this type of price... thumbup.gif

And also, about upgrading to C2D...some of us 939 users still very sayang with our rigs and really feel it's not time to part with them. Anyhow to me, it still serves me well, so maybe Phenom or Penryn will be a better choice, let's just wait a little longer and see. thumbup.gif
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May be have another reason, some part they sell also not so expensive..
But i just guess la, if not, how come can survive until now.. smile.gif

oh.. i really need a new proc soon, need to run my analysis.. sad.gif
but i just bought this 3000+ for 2 months ++ only, still have 9month + shop warranty.

It is just like.. a bit waste to buy a new proc+mobo. sad.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 26 2007, 10:41 PM)
May be have another reason, some part they sell also not so expensive..
But i just guess la, if not, how come can survive until now..  smile.gif

oh.. i really need a new proc soon, need to run my analysis..  sad.gif
but i just bought this 3000+ for 2 months ++ only, still have 9month + shop warranty.

It is just like.. a bit waste to buy a new proc+mobo.  sad.gif
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Too bad no 939 dual processor mobo, if not i'll be tempted to run dual 3000+ on a rig...Lol...

U bought ur 3000+ new? From which shop?
Btw, interested in Am2 3800+ X2 cheap cheap? I got one unit in hand...Lol...
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 26 2007, 11:47 PM)
Too bad no 939 dual processor mobo, if not i'll be tempted to run dual 3000+ on a rig...Lol...

U bought ur 3000+ new? From which shop?
Btw, interested in Am2 3800+ X2 cheap cheap? I got one unit in hand...Lol...
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oh.. i bought from PCDEPOT before on April .

Really plan to sell off this rig, but may be plan to try intel processor after 22th July.
Sorry ya bro. smile.gif
U are USM student right?
School is reopen soon ya ... need to study agian.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 27 2007, 11:08 AM)
oh.. i bought from PCDEPOT before on April .

Really plan to sell off this rig, but may be plan to try intel processor after 22th July.
Sorry ya bro.  smile.gif
U are USM student right?
School is reopen soon ya ... need to study agian..  sweat.gif
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Oic, i was a USM student. Just grad last semester. But will be finding for a job in Penang. Other than the stupid PC shops, every other thing about Penang is still cool. Love the food especially.

I guess you should just keep this rig and maybe use it as a BT rig, since it doesn't really worth much selling.
Where r u studying now?
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 27 2007, 08:06 PM)
Oic, i was a USM student. Just grad last semester. But will be finding for a job in Penang.  Other than the stupid PC shops, every other thing about Penang is still cool. Love the food especially.

I guess you should just keep this rig and maybe use it as a BT rig, since it doesn't really worth much selling.
Where r u studying now?
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oh.. that mean your convocation is coming soon ya. smile.gif
Congratulation rclxms.gif

I am Housing, building and Planning student.

Plan to keep the rig before... But have to see how lor. It still have 9 month warranty, If can sell it off, then it is better. smile.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 27 2007, 07:44 PM)
oh.. that mean your convocation is coming soon ya.  smile.gif
Congratulation  rclxms.gif

I am Housing, building and Planning student.

Plan to keep the rig before... But have to see how lor. It still have 9 month warranty, If can sell it off, then it is better.  smile.gif
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Oh ok, so u High Blood Pressure student... laugh.gif
Hmm, skool reopening soon. So all da best in the new sem.
Convo will be in August, but i'll be around in PG most probably starting next week.
Which year r u in?

Btw, Intel price dropping in July huh, so what do you plan this time? E6600? E6750?
Actually in terms of benchies Intel is leading, but in real life experience, the differences with X2 seems to be marginal...You don't really feel it...
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 27 2007, 08:49 PM)
Oh ok, so u High Blood Pressure student... laugh.gif
Hmm, skool reopening soon. So all da best in the new sem.
Convo will be in August, but i'll be around in PG most probably starting next week.
Which year r u in?

Btw, Intel price dropping in July huh, so what do you plan this time? E6600? E6750?
Actually in terms of benchies Intel is leading, but in real life experience, the differences with X2 seems to be marginal...You don't really feel it...
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yalor, tension, tension and tension.. cry.gif cry.gif

I am 1 st year master student.

I plan to buy Quad core. I am doing a rendering analysis, that is the reason i prefer Quadro FX. Unluckily i found out that my processor bottlenecks the Quadro FX performance.
If i just normal use or play games, i sure will take AMD, but i plan to do rendering, so only I plan to get a Intel processor. May be I will get a opteron too, but i havent decide yet. sad.gif

Dillema.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 27 2007, 09:10 PM)
yalor, tension, tension and tension..  cry.gif  cry.gif

I am 1 st year master student.

I plan to buy Quad core. I am doing a rendering analysis, that is the reason i prefer Quadro FX. Unluckily i found out that my processor bottlenecks the Quadro FX performance.
If i just normal use or play games, i sure will take AMD, but i plan to do rendering, so only I plan to get a Intel processor. May be I will get a opteron too, but i havent decide yet.  sad.gif

Dillema.. tongue.gif
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Oh, masters... brows.gif
So u taking on part time or full time?
Taking HBP masters should not be easy, even undergrad is tough enuff.

Hmm, quad...So far your only choice will be Intel. For rendering wise, i think most benchies favor Intel, so i guess the verdict is pretty clear here...

I'm also in a dillema, whether to upgrade or to wait for Phenom then only decide... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 27 2007, 11:40 PM)
Oh, masters... brows.gif
So u taking on part time or full time?
Taking HBP masters should not be easy, even undergrad is tough enuff.

Hmm, quad...So far your only choice will be Intel. For rendering wise, i think most benchies favor Intel, so i guess the verdict is pretty clear here...

I'm also in a dillema, whether to upgrade or to wait for Phenom then only decide... laugh.gif
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yalor.. everyday tension .. cry.gif

oh.. i saw a active bulk for opteron 165, 170... alrd
It is cheap. May be u can have a look . smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/449741/+200

I heard that opteron is stable enought compare with C2D, because it is a server proc.

So, i just worry that... i should prefer stable proc or high end proc?

oh.. If you computer now server u well, then dont need to change your PC lor.
Dont waste money smile.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 27 2007, 11:00 PM)
yalor.. everyday tension ..  cry.gif

oh.. i saw a active bulk for opteron 165, 170... alrd
It is cheap. May be u can have a look .  smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/449741/+200

I heard that opteron is stable enought compare with C2D, because it is a server proc.

So, i just worry that...  i should prefer stable proc or high end proc?

oh.. If you computer now server u well, then dont need to change your PC lor.
Dont waste money  smile.gif
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Huhu, the ELHH82 Bulk, very tempting indeed.
It is really cheap, am tempted to get maybe the 165 but that will depend on budget limit. If i start working in this month then should not be a problem...

Hmm, stability wise, i think both of them should be stable enough. The 939 Opterons were actually meant for desktop usage rather than server, it's just adapted from the 940 server Opteron.

Bsaically, if you want to go for the opteron, you won't need to give up your entire rig, just get the proc, but if you get the C2D, then it's almost a whole rig change...

It depends on you needs lar...I think the opty should work quite well already, but if you do have the ability to go further, why not right?
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 28 2007, 12:48 AM)
Huhu, the ELHH82 Bulk, very tempting indeed.
It is really cheap, am tempted to get maybe the 165 but that will depend on budget limit. If i start working in this month then should not be a problem...

Hmm, stability wise, i think both of them should be stable enough. The 939 Opterons were actually meant for desktop usage rather than server, it's just adapted from the 940 server Opteron.

Bsaically, if you want to go for the opteron, you won't need to give up your entire rig, just get the proc, but if you get the C2D, then it's almost a whole rig change...

It depends on you needs lar...I think the opty should work quite well already, but if you do have the ability to go further, why not right?
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Yalor. Tje Elhh82 offer a nice price for Opteron 165. Only RM430 and including postage somemore .. sweat.gif

yaya.. i plan to take opteron because i want to save money, but I only have 1G ddr Ram now, that is my problem. Opteron + 1G DDR is not cheap alrd. smile.gif

@MENO, u know where to get this cable in Penang?

Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 Dual DVI-VGA
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/a..._1951_100188166

May be plan to go to BJ to find this cable.
May be can go Aarado to ask the price tongue.gif
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RN25 , they sell RM48

I think this cable is cost about RM30-40, then may be they will offer me RM80 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 28 2007, 11:41 AM)
Yalor. Tje Elhh82 offer a nice price for Opteron 165. Only RM430 and including postage somemore .. sweat.gif

yaya.. i plan to take opteron because i want to save money, but I only have 1G ddr Ram now, that is my problem. Opteron + 1G DDR is not cheap alrd.  smile.gif

@MENO, u know where to get this cable in Penang?

Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 Dual DVI-VGA
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/a..._1951_100188166

May be plan to go to BJ to find this cable.
May be can go Aarado to ask the price  tongue.gif
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That cable ar?
Not very sure o, but why do you need that?
Wanna use up to 4 monitors?
If in KL you might find it at 3E Imbi or LYP, maybe can help you have a look this week. I might be going down to lyp.
U need the VGA-2 DVI or DVI-2 VGA?

Hmm, btw if you want to go for 2GB, i would recommend the Team Xtreme Cronos 1gbx2 DDR 500 kit, it's price less then RM500. And you should be able to sell your pair of Geil off for quite a good price.

I'm looking at the Opty 170 actually, but still need to wait because for the time being, no spare budget yet.
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 28 2007, 09:10 PM)
That cable ar?
Not very sure o, but why do you need that?
Wanna use up to 4 monitors?
If in KL you might find it at 3E Imbi or LYP, maybe can help you have a look this week. I might be going down to lyp.
U need the VGA-2 DVI or DVI-2 VGA?

Hmm, btw if you want to go for 2GB, i would recommend the Team Xtreme Cronos 1gbx2 DDR 500 kit, it's price less then RM500. And you should be able to sell your pair of Geil off for quite a good price.

I'm looking at the Opty 170 actually, but still need to wait because for the time being, no spare budget yet.
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Oh. it is because i just bought a graphic card Nvidia Quadro NVS280 PCI-E 64Mb DDR which is use the DMS-59 as a out put.
So I need to buy a Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 DVI or Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 VGA.
If not, i cannot use it. sweat.gif sweat.gif

oh.. no leh .. Geil DDR 512MB X2 cannot sell in high price.. so down leh..

2G DDR RM500 + OPteron RM430, need RM1000 .. sweat.gif

if i sell off my CPU + ram about RM300, still have to pay for RM700 sweat.gif
So i am still think about it.

oh.. 170 is nice rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 28 2007, 08:29 PM)
Oh. it is because i just bought a graphic card Nvidia Quadro NVS280 PCI-E 64Mb DDR which is use the DMS-59 as a out put.
So I need to buy a Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 DVI or Molex Cable Kit DMS-59 VGA.
If not, i cannot use it.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

oh.. no leh .. Geil DDR 512MB X2 cannot sell in high price.. so down leh..

2G DDR RM500 + OPteron RM430, need RM1000 ..  sweat.gif

if i sell off my CPU + ram about RM300, still have to pay for RM700  sweat.gif
So i am still think about it.

oh.. 170 is nice  rclxms.gif
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Oh ok, i tot urs are those High Performance Geil One TCCDs.

Oh, i tought thats a normal DVI socket. I will help you ask about the DMS-59 Cable Kit when i'm in KL. Btw, why don't you try in the garage and search for another 2x512MB Geil Blue? Should be able to get for the price you expect to sell... thumbup.gif
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Oh ok, i tot urs are those High Performance Geil One TCCDs.

Oh, i tought thats a normal DVI socket. I will help you ask about the DMS-59 Cable Kit when i'm in KL. Btw, why don't you try in the garage and search for another 2x512MB Geil Blue? Should be able to get for the price you expect to sell... thumbup.gif
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Oh.. thanks a lot.
I open a WTB thread alrd.
but i think it is not easy to get the cable in lowyat. cry.gif
When u go Lowyat? this friday?
May be need your help to buy it smile.gif

It is seldom saw people sell Geil Blue, I saw a 512MB X2 ram before. It is RM200.It is a nice price.
Unluckily that time i cannot found a opteron bulk.
Now i saw a opteron bulk , but the ram is sold cry.gif
That is life. blink.gif

i heard that 9 july , AMD will slash their price agian, is it true? hmm.gif

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Oh.. thanks a lot.
I open a WTB thread alrd.
but i think it is not easy to get the cable in lowyat.  cry.gif
When u go Lowyat? this friday?
May be need your help to buy it  smile.gif

It is seldom saw people sell Geil Blue, I saw a 512MB X2 ram before. It is RM200.It is a nice price.
Unluckily that time i cannot found a opteron bulk.
Now i saw a opteron bulk , but the ram is sold  cry.gif
That is life.  blink.gif

i heard that 9 july , AMD will slash their price agian, is it true?  hmm.gif
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Not sure about the price slash though.
Even if AMD slashes their price, i doubt if the 939 prices will be affected as they are already out of production.

If i go Lowyat, most problably will be either Saturday or Sunday, i need to pick up a projector from my supplier in Imbi this week, so might have time to go around before i pick my stuff up. Btw, you have any budget limit for the cable? It's easier if you let me know how much you expect the cables to be, so if overbudget i won't get it for you.

Ya, this is life...Always when i'm not looking for that item, loads of them are up for sale, when i have the budget, everything vanish.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 28 2007, 10:44 PM)
Not sure about the price slash though.
Even if AMD slashes their price, i doubt if the 939 prices will be affected as they are already out of production.

If i go Lowyat, most problably will be either Saturday or Sunday, i need to pick up a projector from my supplier in Imbi this week, so might have time to go around before i pick my stuff up. Btw, you have any budget limit for the cable? It's easier if you let me know how much you expect the cables to be, so if overbudget i won't get it for you.

Ya, this is life...Always when i'm not looking for that item, loads of them are up for sale, when i have the budget, everything vanish.. tongue.gif
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oh.. thanks a lot.
My budget is around RM30, if more than RM30, then dont need to buy for me.
Really thanks a lot ya. smile.gif

oh.. if AMD price slash, may be plan to get a new opteron AM2 proc + motherboard tongue.gif

oh... U purposely go to KL to pick a projector? The transportation alrd cost you a lot ya. tongue.gif

Later can plan to open a computer shop alrd.. rclxms.gif

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thread dominated by @meno and darnell tongue.gif

support meno taiko open shop den hire some lenglui..kasi manja manja abit hornay horny voice sure alot business brows.gif
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Which means.. bulk/garage sales in LowYat is still the best way to get high-end gc and so on for penangites... sad.gif

Oh well...
*By the way.. some forumers mentioned to me the name SwissPac or so... where is this shop?
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SwissPac is at 4th floor of Bukit Jambul complex too, I've dealt with them many many times over a period of 4-5 years and their service is very good.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 29 2007, 03:03 PM)
thread dominated by @meno and darnell  tongue.gif

support meno taiko open shop den hire some lenglui..kasi manja manja abit hornay horny voice sure alot business  brows.gif
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seldom see lenglui who pro in computer hardware sweat.gif

later PowerSlide ask the lenglui about the hardware question, the only answer you can get is....
'' Sorry, I dont know'' ( with manja manja sound ) tongue.gif

QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 29 2007, 03:07 PM)
SwissPac is at 4th floor of Bukit Jambul complex too, I've dealt with them many many times over a period of 4-5 years and their service is very good.
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oh. the Service from SwissPac is good, but their price is high... sad.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 29 2007, 02:03 PM)
thread dominated by @meno and darnell  tongue.gif

support meno taiko open shop den hire some lenglui..kasi manja manja abit hornay horny voice sure alot business  brows.gif
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Tengkiu tengkiu, i will seriously consider it, maybe in 2-3 years time... rclxm9.gif
By that time if i hire lenglui and Powerslide punya bayang also tak nampak i sure whack him kaw kaw when i see him. tongue.gif

Btw, not that we wanna dominate, u guys all hilang entah ke mana... sweat.gif

QUOTE(darnell @ Jun 29 2007, 03:21 PM)
seldom see lenglui who pro in computer hardware  sweat.gif

later PowerSlide ask the lenglui about the hardware question, the only answer you can get is....
'' Sorry, I dont know'' ( with manja manja sound ) tongue.gif
oh. the Service from SwissPac is good, but their price is high...  sad.gif
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Darnell, proper training will better equip them in selling. Train them to sell all those high end stuff... brows.gif So when powerslide ask for PSU, show him PCP&C, when he ask casing, show him Soldam... brows.gif Good idea huh...Maybe can use Taiwan selling Pinang concept in PC business. hmm.gif

Btw, ya swisspac prices are always high and i did realise that they tend to give some less proper information at times.
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thread dominated by @meno and darnell  tongue.gif
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Haven't you two heard of instant messaging?

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haha....they are I.M over here....
so,guys,i see aarado got carry AC and noctua.
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aarado carry noctua..mesti buy from our irangan hahaha since u say they aso buy ass from irangan

btw aarado how to pronounce? ah-rado? a-a-rado? unsure.gif


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aaa hahahahahaha rado....

lol...
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a-a-a-a~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rado....
anyway,i call it alato blacklisted shop.
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aarado carry noctua..mesti buy from our irangan hahaha since u say they aso buy ass from irangan

btw aarado how to pronounce? ah-rado? a-a-rado?  unsure.gif
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oh. mean lyn 's irangan ?
that mean AArado worker or boss aslo come lyn ya hmm.gif

why they didnt come here? tongue.gif
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ya,agreed.
he just got the stock from lyn here.
he told my friend,i mean,the ricky.my friend ask him where he gets the AS5 (bodek dulu),my friend ask,wah.....hard to find AS5 in penang,where did u get it????
he told my friend said that he got the AS5 from bulk in LYN.

from this we can make a conclusion that aaaaaaaaalado got the AS5 from irangan and the noctua also from irangan and resell over here with double the price...

FORGOT TO TELL YOU GUYS,HE SELLING ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER 7 AT RM170!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxms.gif
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ya,agreed.
he just got the stock from lyn here.
he told my friend,i mean,the ricky.my friend ask him where he gets the AS5 (bodek dulu),my friend ask,wah.....hard to find AS5 in penang,where did u get it????
he told my friend said that he got the AS5 from bulk in LYN.

from this we can make a conclusion that aaaaaaaaalado got the AS5 from irangan and the noctua also from irangan and resell over here with double the price...

FORGOT TO TELL YOU GUYS,HE SELLING ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER 7 AT RM170!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxms.gif
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I just found that PC depot also sell arctic cooling freezer 7, it is only around RM120 much cheaper compare with Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarado.. tongue.gif
I think they shouldnt bring arctic alrd, they need a new bulk for other brand item tongue.gif
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U mean what, those opterons are still there or u mean the shop is still there?
2 possibilities:

1.) Maybe someone just opens it to pass time, not really needing the  income from the shop.
2.) Too many water fish in Penang who always gets slaughtered... laugh.gif

I seriously hope it was the 1st reason, if not i can't imagine how many innocent victims... shakehead.gif
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I can confirm both 1 and 2 is correct.

1. The real owner (Not ricky) is actually retired and just passing time by opening the shop. The owner usually don't just sit around in the shop but walks around the shopping mall nearby the shop.

2. There are a heck of a lot of water fish around in Malaysia. They don't do their research properly before buying something. In that shop, when I was working with them, the uncle told me they get around at least a few thousand Ringgit worth of sales every day.

Considering 50% is their nett profit, they probably get RM1k daily which is about RM30k monthly... WAH!!! No wonder last time the uncle can hire me to do nothing in there last time...
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u worked with aarado before?
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n305er, the uncle paid u to do nothing and now u come become golden finger? mad.gif tongue.gif

Hmm, a few k of sales a day, that is wierd enough for this type of shops. Penang really so many water fish meh?

But anyhow, Aarado is for those non LYN foumers.
We LYN forumers buy direct from bulk, who wants to pay extra 50% for AS5 and 60% for Arctic Freezer.

Btw n305er,
Anything else to disclose...brows.gif
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Hmm... Nope, the shop is just, well... normally expensive.

Now there's this other shop which I've also worked for before which is way way way * 100000 worse.

It's called Keypoint.
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n305er..thanx for the info..my father used to buy an optical mouse from a shop in penang,dunno wut the shop name when he was doing his audit there..he bought a lousy cap ayam mouse for RM40!! wtf...then he came back told me he just bought a new mouse for RM40..for my father he doesnt really have any idea what's d market price and consider the RM40 for cap ayam usb mouse reasonable...for me,it's the stupidest thing i will do..but nvmla,my father didnt complaint anything about it till today still using the mouse.. just wonder with rm40 i can get logitech, microsoft mouse..haissshh!!
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n305er..thanx for the info..my father used to buy an optical mouse from a shop in penang,dunno wut the shop name when he was doing his audit there..he bought a lousy cap ayam mouse for RM40!! wtf...then he came back told me he just bought a new mouse for RM40..for my father he doesnt really have any idea what's d market price and consider the RM40 for cap ayam usb mouse reasonable...for me,it's the stupidest thing i will do..but nvmla,my father didnt complaint anything about it till today still using the mouse.. just wonder with rm40 i can get logitech, microsoft mouse..haissshh!!
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lousy cap ayam optical mouse for RM40 sweat.gif sweat.gif
Why so many computer shop in penang are selling high price but still can survive?

btw, i saw BJ got one new computer shop d...
Call Advance XXX.. forget alrd tongue.gif

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RM40? Many people are attracted to those fancy fancy mouse designs with lots of Colourful LED lights...

The next thing they know, their scroller can scroll the rubber surface only but the sensor inside is already loose. laugh.gif
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better than cannot scroll la...the BJ advance XXX?where it located?
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Next to Swisspac lo. AdvanceTech

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Next to Swisspac lo. AdvanceTech
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advancetech? how advance? tongue.gif
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advancetech? how advance?  tongue.gif
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Ermm...How Advance???For me , like that like that nia lo....Not so Advance...Maybe u can pay a visit to the shop to rate the advance of the shop... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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wah....advanced lo....
must go there and kacau and see....tomolo i go!
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wah....advanced lo....
must go there and kacau and see....tomolo i go!
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frankily speaking.. i walk through there, didnt see any advance things tongue.gif tongue.gif
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frankily speaking.. i walk through there, didnt see any advance things  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Me cannot say people coz my shop not as advance as his one... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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BJ market already so competitive still got people go and open a new shop .. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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BJ market already so competitive still got people go and open a new shop ..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Well..Maybe the ` cake ` at BJ is more delicious than other complex...BJ's ` cake ` already left a few only & somemore got people wanna come & grab some to eat..Haiz... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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Well..Maybe the ` cake ` at BJ is more delicious than other complex...BJ's ` cake ` already left a few only & somemore got people wanna come & grab some to eat..Haiz... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I would agree with that. BJ definitely still offer better potential than some other places like Queensbay. Prangin seems to be dying...Wonder if we can get some sort of our own version of lowyat here in Penang.

Btw, Advanced???Hmm, will pay them a visit soon to see what is so advanced about their tech there, maybe Agena ES? hmm.gif tongue.gif
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Well, there are some unique stuff you can find in Queensbay. There's one shop there selling lots of nice Cooler Master Casings including a few ATCS!!! drool.gif

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cooler Master. tongue.gif
That shop also sells a wide range of Belkin products which is good. smile.gif

Prangin Mall is slowly, very slowly dying. However, that's where you can still find Vertex. The distributor.

I don't like to go to Prangin Mall... It's so hard to find a parking space there even though it's so huge. And yet, there's still nothing in there.

One stop seems to be another place where the computer shops are slowly growing. Gadget Zone at One Stop has moved downstairs. Their new shop Looks good but it's lacking their old Overclockers/PC modders/Hardcore User's feel. Active Extreme has also turned from a single shop lot to a double shop lot, shop. tongue.gif

Just had a small visit the other day and talked with the technician there. They are very up to date with the latest hardware and although they do lack the range of products you might be interested in, they do make up for extreamly good workmanship. smile.gif My uncle had bought a computer from them a few years back and it's the most tidy and stable setup I've seen a stock shop around Penang can sell. There's not much I can even do to clean up the casing except just add some additional 80mm Fans which didn't come with the Crappy Tsunami Casing.

Back to BJ, I'll probably be going there tomorrow for a visit and maybe to disturb Silence and BUM. whistling.gif
I'll also probably be taking along my camera to take some pictures and update the status of the computer shops around BJ. It does sounds like there's a lot of Computer shops squeezing into there. biggrin.gif

The only thing lacking is the choices of Casing. sad.gif
I can find great Display cards at Gadzet Zone, Great Micro ATX systems at MixTechnology, Good PSU almost everywhere, But no shop in Penang sells casing like Lian Li or Silverstone. sad.gif I can't even get any replacement parts for my Existing Lian Li casing. dry.gif

Anyone want to join me to go Kacau Kacau the computer shops in BJ tomorrow? brows.gif
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 8 2007, 12:41 AM)
Well, there are some unique stuff you can find in Queensbay. There's one shop there selling lots of nice Cooler Master Casings including a few ATCS!!! drool.gif

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of Cooler Master. tongue.gif
That shop also sells a wide range of Belkin products which is good. smile.gif

Prangin Mall is slowly, very slowly dying. However, that's where you can still find Vertex. The distributor.

I don't like to go to Prangin Mall... It's so hard to find a parking space there even though it's so huge. And yet, there's still nothing in there.

One stop seems to be another place where the computer shops are slowly growing. Gadget Zone at One Stop has moved downstairs. Their new shop Looks good but it's lacking their old Overclockers/PC modders/Hardcore User's feel. Active Extreme has also turned from a single shop lot to a double shop lot, shop. tongue.gif

Just had a small visit the other day and talked with the technician there. They are very up to date with the latest hardware and although they do lack the range of products you might be interested in, they do make up for extreamly good workmanship. smile.gif My uncle had bought a computer from them a few years back and it's the most tidy and stable setup I've seen a stock shop around Penang can sell. There's not much I can even do to clean up the casing except just add some additional 80mm Fans which didn't come with the Crappy Tsunami Casing.

Back to BJ, I'll probably be going there tomorrow for a visit and maybe to disturb Silence and BUM. whistling.gif
I'll also probably be taking along my camera to take some pictures and update the status of the computer shops around BJ. It does sounds like there's a lot of Computer shops squeezing into there. biggrin.gif

The only thing lacking is the choices of Casing. sad.gif
I can find great Display cards at Gadzet Zone, Great Micro ATX systems at MixTechnology, Good PSU almost everywhere, But no shop in Penang sells casing like Lian Li or Silverstone. sad.gif I can't even get any replacement parts for my Existing Lian Li casing. dry.gif

Anyone want to join me to go Kacau Kacau the computer shops in BJ tomorrow? brows.gif
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Just came back from BJ... biggrin.gif
You know what? Advanced Tech, that new computer shop, sells Lian Li! brows.gif other then that, the computer shop keeper there was very helpful and eager to sell... Maybe a little too eager. Unfortunately, I don't think he knows too much about computer modding though.

Anyway, Swisspac also has links to order Silverstone Casings if you order from them. Although I doubt it'll be cheap.

Competition seems to be heating up at BJ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 8 2007, 04:25 PM)
Just came back from BJ... biggrin.gif
You know what? Advanced Tech, that new computer shop, sells Lian Li! brows.gif other then that, the computer shop keeper there was very helpful and eager to sell... Maybe a little too eager. Unfortunately, I don't think he knows too much about computer modding though.

Anyway, Swisspac also has links to order Silverstone Casings if you order from them. Although I doubt it'll be cheap.

Competition seems to be heating up at BJ... brows.gif
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So they are slightly ahead of some shops in BJ since they're the 1st to carry Ah Lians in Penang i guess.
Will pay them a visit after i got the budget to get a new casing for my baby, maybe some nice cool Ah Lians... drool.gif

Queensbay, i know that shop that sells loads of coolermaster stuffs, but again, prices are high and coolermaster doesn't offer things which suit my taste. Too bad those old ATCS do not come with 120mm blow holes, if not i'd be pretty tempted to get some since they are really cool. I still remember trying to find a decent NB heatsink from that shop in Queensbay and the best they could recommend would be the CM Blue Ice and also another Zalman dunno wat model. Seriously not worth the cents you pay for those heatsinks...

Haih, anyone knows shops which carry Thermalright or PcCooler stuff in PG?

Ordering Silverstone through Swisspac, ya i doubt the prices will be nice. Btw, i came across TJ06 selling for RM499 at All IT Hypermarket LY last week, i guess it's quite a good deal.

Lets just hope one stop will continue to grow and at least offer us with something more worth for our money. Gadget zone prices at one stop are now pretty competitive if compared to Lowyat's existing pricing, they seem to be not far away especially for Hard Disk and some other items.
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 8 2007, 05:25 PM)
Just came back from BJ... biggrin.gif
You know what? Advanced Tech, that new computer shop, sells Lian Li! brows.gif other then that, the computer shop keeper there was very helpful and eager to sell... Maybe a little too eager. Unfortunately, I don't think he knows too much about computer modding though.

Anyway, Swisspac also has links to order Silverstone Casings if you order from them. Although I doubt it'll be cheap.

Competition seems to be heating up at BJ... brows.gif
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I also just come back from Bj just now.

Check the computer part price in BJ, then compare with KL shops price list.
Some of the items even Penang shop are more cheaper rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

oh. Advance Tech bring in Lian Li oh.. but this kind of casing only suitable for rich person.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Yup, They have Lian Li. But only 1 at their shop and it's only a classical series. Much like the one I have at home (Bought 4 years ago).

Other models you have to order summore...
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Dumb question here, so which shops in BJ has good pricing? i'm looking to purchasing Abit/Giga mobo (p965) . Pg prices kinda overpriced..
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well....just come back from AdvancedTech,nothing attracted me....
i didnt see there is ah lian over there....
bro n305,u sure got ah lian?
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wah..got ah lian casing..but real ah lian or ciplak ah lian tongue.gif
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They got the PC-G7B

Almost exactly like my PC6066 at home... sweat.gif

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PC-G7B...i wonder how much do they price it... drool.gif
Hmm, i'm personally interested in the Classical series, but when you guys said only one model...Hmmm, maybe still ATE will be a better place to search for my upcoming casing.

Acecombat,
Wats so special ar...Can i say that the overall built and material quality is better than those cheapo casings, and most Ah Lians are design with Airflow taken into consideration, so basically they should be offering better airflow compared to other generic cases. I understand they cost a bomb when compared to generic, but you don't get a full alu case when you get generic here in Malaysia. Considering that some CM cases are priced at RM2++, i personally think those entry level Ah Lians could be better buys...
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lian li are simple design..and interior is cleverly design aso..

i aso suka classical series especially the PC-G70A..huge full tower flex.gif
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How about, after 3 years of using my computer, All I have to do to update a simple thing such as Ram, or display, And for normal casing to have a bunch of hard disk blocking my way, All I have to do is to remove the HDD tray instead of unplugging all my cables?

Or how about when I need to reapply or change my CPU fan, All I have to do is to remove the Motherboard tray, and those tiny little HDD Light, Power, Reset pins just stays there and I only use 1 simple connector to reconnect them back later?

Best of all, Most of their stock cables and other cables are by default easily managable. biggrin.gif
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aiyoo....all fall in love to ah lian....cannot tahan u all.... laugh.gif
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PC-G7B...i wonder how much do they price it... drool.gif
Hmm, i'm personally interested in the Classical series, but when you guys said only one model...Hmmm, maybe still ATE will be a better place to search for my upcoming casing.

Acecombat,
Wats so special ar...Can i say that the overall built and material quality is better than those cheapo casings, and most Ah Lians are design with Airflow taken into consideration, so basically they should be offering better airflow compared to other generic cases. I understand they cost a bomb when compared to generic, but you don't get a full alu case when you get generic here in Malaysia. Considering that some CM cases are priced at RM2++, i personally think those entry level Ah Lians could be better buys...
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ya,stick with my AceCombat themed I-Cute S901-BB better la....haha....ah lian,no money to pay for it.
one time buy ah lian the wallet breaks into few pieces laugh.gif
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ya,stick with my AceCombat themed I-Cute S901-BB better la....haha....ah lian,no money to pay for it.
one time buy ah lian the wallet breaks into few pieces laugh.gif
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Your casing and the AceCombat theme sweat.gif
already enough to buy a nice ah lian alrd.. tongue.gif
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but ah lian the design is too "su bun" already,i wan my casing to look "yeah" a bit laugh.gif
ah lian air flow ok meh?
i see it always cover up the front,the air cannot go in one....
hehe....i like stacker first model....
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That's what they call the Minimalist and simplicity Design. biggrin.gif
And the air flow is always Great in Ah Lian thumbup.gif

Hmm.. How to better describe it?

Let's take Apple and Google Vs Microsoft and MSN as example.

Simplicity approach:
Apple's Mac Computers boots up with a simple push of a button. It Starts up and you start working on it. There's no complicated special .NET login accounts, no complicated Safemode, etc. When it loads, it just loads without all the boot up programs which windows are so used to.

Errors comes with a simple message in the Mac unlike the complicated messages which comes with Windows Such as "Error Type 11 [a23xg622a]" for example.

Yes Windows has a lot more features, and a better market share. But the simplicity is what Apple so special, why people love apple and why their market share is increasing slowly. (Which is also the reason why Linux is not getting any better)

While for online comparison, The reason why Google is so successful compared to Yahoo, Ask, MSN?

Is this:
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Compared to these:
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Simplicity and Quality Sells! thumbup.gif
No Fancy LCD panels, No Fancy LED lights, No Fancy Holes. Just plain, Simple, Usable and Solid Casing. biggrin.gif

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Very well said indeed.
But again, the simplicity design is a personal preference. I'm still using an old Enlight case because it suits my taste of being simple and practical. Simple front panel, nice working space but too bad no removable mobo tray, and the airflow sorta sucks.
Some people would prefer some casings which are more chio like raidmax, thermaltake, soldam drool.gif (one which is simple, elegant and has the touches of godlike, handbuilt summore drool.gif)

Btw, acecombat's casing is very very chio...But imagine if all those airbrushing were to be on a Stacker, god it's gonna be a match made in heaven.

Darnell:
I took one CM C5 from Robyncom for RM165 only...But assembling it and doing cable management in it really takes a lot of very very precise planning, if not the cables would be like cacing o... sweat.gif Considering a Ah Lian PC-7s for RM238, i dun think we'll consider the CM C5 cheap... tongue.gif

Btw, not all Ah Lians have obstructed front area, some models like the PC-007 has a brilliant front panel which still keeps it's simplicity and yet offers spectacular airflow.
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Very well said indeed.
But again, the simplicity design is a personal preference. I'm still using an old Enlight case because it suits my taste of being simple and practical. Simple front panel, nice working space but too bad no removable mobo tray, and the airflow sorta sucks.
Some people would prefer some casings which are more chio like raidmax, thermaltake, soldam drool.gif (one which is simple, elegant and has the touches of godlike, handbuilt summore drool.gif)

Btw, acecombat's casing is very very chio...But imagine if all those airbrushing were to be on a Stacker, god it's gonna be a match made in heaven. 

Darnell:
I took one CM C5 from Robyncom for RM165 only...But assembling it and doing cable management in it really takes a lot of very very precise planning, if not the cables would be like cacing o... sweat.gif Considering a Ah Lian PC-7s for RM238, i dun think we'll consider the CM C5 cheap... tongue.gif

Btw, not all Ah Lians have obstructed front area, some models like the PC-007 has a brilliant front panel which still keeps it's simplicity and yet offers spectacular airflow.
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yo bro,i like Soldam a lot,they look so cool but the price is even cooler....
u sure they are handmade?btw,i argee the word that u use to describe soldam G0D-L1K3. notworthy.gif

anyway,my casing is not chio la....and u r telling the right thing,i'm gonna get a full tower and brush up a devil with scythe and riding a devil horse.haha.....this gonna break my wallet into few pieces again,and u guys always can see my wallet got a lot of jarum scar one.... laugh.gif

bro @meno and darnell,if u guys come to cut ur hair at green lane height,u will see this casing in a hair saloon,the name is Line Cut Hair Saloon,i left my quad over there to let my hair stylist bro to play game, brows.gif afraid he boring when working.

yeah,i wan a full tower casing and brush it up kaw kaw!!! thumbup.gif
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yo bro,i like Soldam a lot,they look so cool but the price is even cooler....
u sure they are handmade?btw,i argee the word that u use to describe soldam G0D-L1K3. notworthy.gif

anyway,my casing is not chio la....and u r telling the right thing,i'm gonna get a full tower and brush up a devil with scythe and riding a devil horse.haha.....this gonna break my wallet into few pieces again,and u guys always can see my wallet got a lot of jarum scar one.... laugh.gif

bro @meno and darnell,if u guys come to cut ur hair at green lane height,u will see this casing in a hair saloon,the name is Line Cut Hair Saloon,i left my quad over there to let my hair stylist bro to play game, brows.gif afraid he boring when working.

yeah,i wan a full tower casing and brush it up kaw kaw!!! thumbup.gif
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Ur bro hairstylist? rclxms.gif Next time can go there ask for super cheap uber cool haircut... tongue.gif ...
I used to cut in one shop in Ivory, but the stylist(my friend lari oredi, run with my money summore vmad.gif )
Now i go Indian barber cut RM5 only... tongue.gif

Soldams are hand built, means parts are built by machine, but the Casing is hand assembled IIRC, so it's called hand built.
Wow, full tower with Air Brush...Stacker 832? Tat will look really chio like those which are factory airbrushed. So nobody offer u good price for ur Casing ar?

I want afull tower also, but i prefer either brushed alu style or maybe mirror shine gloss for my paintjob. No money to airbrush...Maybe water colour brush still can afford lar... tongue.gif

Bro, tukar wallet lar...Pantang one u know, once wallet pua kang, means money also cannot stick one, sure flow out like water... tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for price quotations from a shop in PG for Ah Lian PC-007b, PC-7s and also the PC-xx60 something...Will post up once i get the prices so that all out there can consider... thumbup.gif
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Ur bro hairstylist?  rclxms.gif Next time can go there ask for super cheap uber cool haircut... tongue.gif ...
I used to cut in one shop in Ivory, but the stylist(my friend lari oredi, run with my money summore vmad.gif )
Now i go Indian barber cut RM5 only... tongue.gif

Soldams are hand built, means parts are built by machine, but the Casing is hand assembled IIRC, so it's called hand built.
Wow, full tower with Air Brush...Stacker 832? Tat will look really chio like those which are factory airbrushed. So nobody offer u good price for ur Casing ar?

I want afull tower also, but i prefer either brushed alu style or maybe mirror shine gloss for my paintjob. No money to airbrush...Maybe water colour brush still can afford lar... tongue.gif

Bro, tukar wallet lar...Pantang one u know, once wallet pua kang, means money also cannot stick one, sure flow out like water... tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for price quotations from a shop in PG for Ah Lian PC-007b, PC-7s and also the PC-xx60 something...Will post up once i get the prices so that all out there can consider... thumbup.gif
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ya,my bro hairstylist for more than 10 years liao,now own a shop which is located at green lane height there.

nah,i dont wanna sell the casing since this is the only air-brushed casing in m'sia.i wanna be the proud owner, brows.gif

ya,wish to have a full tower of chio chio design casing to make a mirror finished or air-brush again....

aiyo bro,wallet pua kang also need to continue use la,bo lui buy a new one already. laugh.gif

btw,where u got the ah lian caing price?which shop in penang so keng?wanna go see also. flex.gif
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Ur bro hairstylist?  rclxms.gif Next time can go there ask for super cheap uber cool haircut... tongue.gif ...
I used to cut in one shop in Ivory, but the stylist(my friend lari oredi, run with my money summore vmad.gif )
Now i go Indian barber cut RM5 only... tongue.gif

Soldams are hand built, means parts are built by machine, but the Casing is hand assembled IIRC, so it's called hand built.
Wow, full tower with Air Brush...Stacker 832? Tat will look really chio like those which are factory airbrushed. So nobody offer u good price for ur Casing ar?

I want afull tower also, but i prefer either brushed alu style or maybe mirror shine gloss for my paintjob. No money to airbrush...Maybe water colour brush still can afford lar... tongue.gif

Bro, tukar wallet lar...Pantang one u know, once wallet pua kang, means money also cannot stick one, sure flow out like water... tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for price quotations from a shop in PG for Ah Lian PC-007b, PC-7s and also the PC-xx60 something...Will post up once i get the prices so that all out there can consider... thumbup.gif
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oh. which shop of Penang sell ah lian ?

Just come back from BJ... wub.gif

Go to find the molex cable , but fail to get it..

oh.. i saw Some of BJ shops are selling AMD processor with new price

So fast ya Penang's computer shop recently. .. blush.gif


P/S but... still didnt saw ATHLON X2 DUAL BE-2300 / 2350 yet tongue.gif

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Seems like so many people here so interested in ah lian casing...
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nope,i'm not bro b.u.m,haha....it's too su bun for me,no hardcore feeling....
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Advance Tech BJ sells one model for the time being, but the other models are available for order.
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so the advance tech got la.....have to go to see...
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so the advance tech got la.....have to go to see...
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Yup, PC-G7B on display. You can go have a look and see whats so special about Ah Lian.
They have arctic cooling cpu coolers as well, but that doesn't interest me. I'd rather if they tell me they've got TR.
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drool.gif seems like they really advanced a bit....
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Seems like so many people here so interested in ah lian casing...
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Oh. I am also not interested to change casing la.
It is take time to take out the hardward and plug it into a new casing sweat.gif
BUsy recnetly.. tongue.gif

So, BUM , interested to bring in Ah Lian ? tongue.gif


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Oh. I am also not interested to change casing la.
It is take time to take out the hardward and plug it into a new casing  sweat.gif
BUsy recnetly..  tongue.gif

So, BUM , interested to bring in Ah Lian ?  tongue.gif
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Me??Nope...I still interested in my I - Cute though...Not thinkin of changing...For me,I would rather use the money to upgrade hardwares inside my system than toping - up to change casing...
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ya lo,a casing always a casing,like my poll in hardwares section,ppl rather upgrade to quad core than buying a 3.4k casing from CM.
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Me??Nope...I still interested in my I - Cute though...Not thinkin of changing...For me,I would rather use the money to upgrade hardwares inside my system than toping - up to change casing...
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I use a Icute casing b4, 0402L, if not mistaken.
It cause my about RM175 including PSU.

but... After i change to CM 5, my processor and motherboard temperature drop 6-7 C , then only i saw the different.

i dont know how good ah lian is, but i think good casing really can help in decreasing the hardware temperature. smile.gif

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I use a Icute casing b4, 0402L, if not mistaken.
It cause my about RM175 including PSU.

but... After i change to CM 5, my processor and motherboard temperature drop 6-7 C , then only i saw the different. 

i dont know how good ah lian is, but i think good casing really can help in decreasing the hardware temperature.  smile.gif
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Yess...I agree with u bro Darnell...But the price of Ah Lian & Mr CM here is more expensive than I - Cute...Instead of spend money buyin a new casing,would reccomanded for us to upgrade the CPU & chasis fan to a better one...I think it would help more than Ah Lian or CM casing would do in temperature control..Correct me if Im wrong with this info...Thanx..
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Yess...I agree with u bro Darnell...But the price of Ah Lian & Mr CM here is more expensive than I - Cute...Instead of spend money buyin a new casing,would reccomanded for us to upgrade the CPU & chasis fan to a better one...I think it would help more than Ah Lian or CM casing would do in temperature control..Correct me if Im wrong with this info...Thanx..
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yaya.. Agree about that.. smile.gif for save budget, Icute is nice enough.

Some more I-cute casing come with power supply(enough for normal rig d) , that is why that time i bought my Icute 0402L.
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Hmm, i would slightly disagree with you guys there. You upgrade your hardware frequently but not the case, a good case will last you a very long time, like my good old enlight had served me around 7-8 years, if not because of the airflow limitations, i might not consider changing.

While for ah lians, the airflow should be much better than the CM C5. The C5 front intake is almost useless. A pathetic 80mm fan if i've not mistaken. If you plant o impove the airflow, maybe you'll get high speed fan for the intake and exhaust as well. But that you will have to sacrifice the silence of the PC.

For me, maybe spending around 1k for the casing is a little too much, but i do always feel a couple of hundred, say 3-400 is still reasonable considering the better i-cutes are priced more than 100 also nowadays, same as the other generic ones.
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Hmm, i would slightly disagree with you guys there. You upgrade your hardware frequently but not the case, a good case will last you a very long time, like my good old enlight had served me around 7-8 years, if not because of the airflow limitations, i might not consider changing.

While for ah lians, the airflow should be much better than the CM C5. The C5 front intake is almost useless. A pathetic 80mm fan if i've not mistaken. If you plant o impove the airflow, maybe you'll get high speed fan for the intake and exhaust as well. But that you will have to sacrifice the silence of the PC.

For me, maybe spending around  1k for the casing is a little too much, but i do always feel a couple of hundred, say 3-400 is still reasonable considering the better i-cutes are priced more than 100 also nowadays, same as the other generic ones.
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I am using a Vizo 80mm fan for the front intake in my CM5.

May be it is because of the mesh surface for CM5, my harddisc temparature remain around 32-33 C even my computer download file for few days. smile.gif

I didnt use ah lian before, may be it is better. smile.gif
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Well, Looks are up to the individual person to like or not. After all, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

But for features and safety, I'd say You'll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings... smile.gif

While I've been talking about Lian Li and Silverstone, I'd say Cooler Master is good too. As for Icute, I think I'd rather get those RM80 casings over Icute though... No offence to ICute users...
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 14 2007, 11:56 AM)
Well, Looks are up to the individual person to like or not. After all, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

But for features and safety, I'd say You'll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings... smile.gif

While I've been talking about Lian Li and Silverstone, I'd say Cooler Master is good too. As for Icute, I think I'd rather get those RM80 casings over Icute though... No offence to ICute users...
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I agree with u , bro n305er...But compare I - Cute & the normal chaplang chasis , I would say I - Cute is better coz it provides more space for us to add chasis fan on it...This may help in air flow of our whole computer system...Very few chaplang chasis that would have 12cm chasis fan space compare to I - Cute...Conclusion is ` You`ll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings `...Cheers..

Added on July 15, 2007, 8:25 pmIm sorry but why suddenly this thread like become silent???Where is everyone??

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QUOTE(b.u.m @ Jul 14 2007, 02:17 PM)
I agree with u , bro n305er...But compare I - Cute & the normal chaplang chasis , I would say I - Cute is better coz it provides more space for us to add chasis fan on it...This may help in air flow of our whole computer system...Very few chaplang chasis that would have 12cm chasis fan space compare to I - Cute...Conclusion is ` You`ll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings `...Cheers..

Added on July 15, 2007, 8:25 pmIm sorry but why suddenly this thread like become silent???Where is everyone??
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I think all people are calculating budget to upgrade to C2D on 22 July.. tongue.gif

Just came back from BJ again.

Basement, 1st floor, 2nd floor are full of hand phone shop, grd floor have some camera shop, 4th floor have a lot of computer shop....
It is look like BJ now become IT plaza.. tongue.gif

yaya.. Agree, Icute casing power supply which can support basic system.
It is suitable for normal user who want to save cost.
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QUOTE(b.u.m @ Jul 14 2007, 01:17 PM)
I agree with u , bro n305er...But compare I - Cute & the normal chaplang chasis , I would say I - Cute is better coz it provides more space for us to add chasis fan on it...This may help in air flow of our whole computer system...Very few chaplang chasis that would have 12cm chasis fan space compare to I - Cute...Conclusion is ` You`ll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings `...Cheers..

Added on July 15, 2007, 8:25 pmIm sorry but why suddenly this thread like become silent???Where is everyone??
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 15 2007, 09:19 PM)
I think all people are calculating budget to upgrade to C2D on 22 July.. tongue.gif

Just came back from BJ again.

Basement, 1st floor, 2nd floor are full of hand phone shop, grd floor have some camera shop, 4th floor have a lot of computer shop....
It is look like BJ now become IT plaza..  tongue.gif

yaya.. Agree, Icute casing power supply which can support basic system.
It is suitable for normal user who want to save cost.
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It's quite true that you get what you pay for. Cooler Masters are better than those Cap Ayam and Itik. The higher end ones are just as good as some Ah Lians and Silverstones. Frankly, even the C5 is already quite a good casing.

Nowadays many i-cutes do come with proper work space and also nice fan compartments for additional case fans, but i would have to say those stock i-cute fans would do nto much help for airflow, better consider some more seriuos fans if you want some real good ventilation. However, I-cutes are considered much better than those cheapo RM80 for casing+PSU like the one i'm using for my 2nd rig. Just that sometimes when budget is taken into concern, many will still go for the cheapest ones. Nowadays, many brand like E-mag, Now, E-view has casings which look very proper, but the material just doesn't feel solid. Most of them come with dual 80/90mm fan slots behind and either single or dual 80mm intake.

But anyhow, the casing is just not really that important, a better PSU will need to be prioritized before considering for a better casing. For me, it's ok to stick to a cheap casing but it's never ok to stick with a cheap PSU. I just dun trust them.

Darnell, seems like u go to BJ frequently, so u got the cable you were looking for?
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just back from BJ,visiting ah lian the G7 and b.u.m.
the ah lian is ok la,the guy is quite friendly even he knows i went there just for kacau only...

he got selling Palit,gaygaybyte,assus,Evercool,Crucial,really feel a bit Advance liao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jul 15 2007, 11:01 PM)
It's quite true that you get what you pay for. Cooler Masters are better than those Cap Ayam and Itik. The higher end ones are just as good as some Ah Lians and Silverstones. Frankly, even the C5 is already quite a good casing.

Nowadays many i-cutes do come with proper work space and also nice fan compartments for additional case fans, but i would have to say those stock i-cute fans would do nto much help for airflow, better consider some more seriuos fans if you want some real good ventilation. However, I-cutes are considered much better than those cheapo RM80 for casing+PSU like the one i'm using for my 2nd rig. Just that sometimes when budget is taken into concern, many will still go for the cheapest ones. Nowadays, many brand like E-mag, Now, E-view has casings which look very proper, but the material just doesn't feel solid. Most of them come with dual 80/90mm fan slots behind and either single or dual 80mm intake.

But anyhow, the casing is just not really that important, a better PSU will need to be prioritized before considering for a better casing. For me, it's ok to stick to a cheap casing but it's never ok to stick with a cheap PSU. I just dun trust them.

Darnell, seems like u go to BJ frequently, so u got the cable you were looking for?
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It is because i plan to upgrade my computer ma..
I go there to have a dinner , then go to have a survey lor..
See got C2D price drop alrd or not.. tongue.gif
then try to find AMD X2 BE2350.

and... find my cable

I cannot found my cable leh...

Then i bought one from the seller that sell me the card..

Cost me RM45.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 15 2007, 10:34 PM)
just back from BJ,visiting ah lian the G7 and b.u.m.
the ah lian is ok la,the guy is quite friendly even he knows i went there just for kacau only...

he got selling Palit,gaygaybyte,assus,Evercool,Crucial,really feel a bit Advance liao laugh.gif
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Hmm, seems like they are quite interesting. I know they have Arctic cooling CPU fans also. The guy is ok, that day also i went kacau, he even open up the plastic show me, open side panel and tell me many Penang ppl dunno about Ah Lian lar, and say many people come his shop he tell them ah lian good and those ppl only say coolermaster good... sweat.gif

Crucial seems to be interesting, finally we get something here. So now we need someone to bring in XFX, BFG, EVGA, Team then we'll really have a happening community in Penang, but i wonder how many of us would actually buy these high end stuff here in PG? As prices in LY and LYN are cheaper...

QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 15 2007, 10:46 PM)
It is because i plan to upgrade my computer ma..
I go there to have a dinner , then go to have a survey lor..
See got C2D price drop alrd or not..  tongue.gif
then try to find AMD X2 BE2350.

and... find my cable

I cannot found my cable leh...

Then i bought one from the seller that sell me the card..

Cost me RM45..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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AMD X2 BE2350... drool.gif ...I wonder if we would be able to find it on malaysian soil soon...Lol...They overclock like mofo and these little B*sta*ds suck as little power as a hamster sucking from the water canteen. brows.gif

How bout ur 939 Dual Core opty plans? Scrapped? ohmy.gif I'm still waiting to get a job confirmation so i can place an order for a 170 from elhh.

Dinner in BJ? where did you go? I couldn't think of any nice places for dinner in BJ... shakehead.gif
Good to hear that u finally got the cable, RM45 is still not that bad considering how much you already spent for the card...
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ya he also think i'm noob and keep telling me how good is ah lian,i said,ya ya i know that,that's why i'm asking u how much u selling this ah lian and how many other model do u have laugh.gif

anyway,if he carries all the high end stuff,how many of us in penang know it?

Added on July 16, 2007, 6:53 amAnyway,i just got myself a new wallet!!! rclxm9.gif

this time no more pua kang liao,can keep a lot of lui and go buy hardwares. brows.gif

incoming upgrades
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB
Thermaltake Full Tower Casing
24inch LCD

selling:
My air-brushed I-Cute S901-BB

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Yup, that chap at Advanced tech also keep telling me Lian Li is good... Overclockers and Modders all choose lian li one. sweat.gif
That's when I told him that I'm actually using one at home. Then he change liao, keep telling me he actually dunno much about the Lian Li parts. laugh.gif

Wha~~? Those 45W CPUs are out already? cry.gif

Anyway, As for XFX and BFG, I think GZ carries them. Though I doubt many people in Penang buys those things.

Most of the time when I'm helping some aunties or uncles to buy PC or just parts, they'll tell me, "Aiyah, can use can liao lah. Don't need expensive one la. Even computers few years ago can play game what." sweat.gif

Then I'll give them a statistics breakdown. When they were using those cheap parts, they actually have breakdowns of about 1 parts almost every 2 or 3 months. While my [expensive system] is still lasting me for over 4 years and still able to play the latest games, burn almost any DVDs. tongue.gif

Just 2 years ago, I recommended one of my uncle to actually get a good system from a good shop. The only problems he have so far are software problems. smile.gif

Well, I just erm... sort of upgraded and downgraded my system. Bought the Athlon X2 3800+ CPU from @meno. Installed it into a Tforce 690G mobo and added 1GB (Initially wanted 2GB but Mix Tech don't have stock sad.gif ).

So now I've upgraded my CPU and Motherboard but considered downgraded my RAM and display already. rclxub.gif

I think I've made a wrong choice in selecting this motherboard though.

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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 16 2007, 10:10 AM)
Yup, that chap at Advanced tech also keep telling me Lian Li is good... Overclockers and Modders all choose lian li one. sweat.gif
That's when I told him that I'm actually using one at home. Then he change liao, keep telling me he actually dunno much about the Lian Li parts. laugh.gif

Wha~~? Those 45W CPUs are out already? cry.gif

Anyway, As for XFX and BFG, I think GZ carries them. Though I doubt many people in Penang buys those things.

Most of the time when I'm helping some aunties or uncles to buy PC or just parts, they'll tell me, "Aiyah, can use can liao lah. Don't need expensive one la. Even computers few years ago can play game what." sweat.gif

Then I'll give them a statistics breakdown. When they were using those cheap parts, they actually have breakdowns of about 1 parts almost every 2 or 3 months. While my [expensive system] is still lasting me for over 4 years and still able to play the latest games, burn almost any DVDs. tongue.gif

Just 2 years ago, I recommended one of my uncle to actually get a good system from a good shop. The only problems he have so far are software problems. smile.gif

Well, I just erm... sort of upgraded and downgraded my system. Bought the Athlon X2 3800+ CPU from @meno. Installed it into a Tforce 690G mobo and added 1GB (Initially wanted 2GB but Mix Tech don't have stock sad.gif ).

So now I've upgraded my CPU and Motherboard but considered downgraded my RAM and display already.  rclxub.gif

I think I've made a wrong choice in selecting this motherboard though.
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Haha Brother , then u need to keep some money to upgrade your graphic card. Then no one will said u downgrade your system lo tongue.gif . Anyway , ATI Radeon X1250 can consider very shit graphic card. Hope you dont mind. thumbup.gif






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QUOTE(@meno @ Jul 16 2007, 02:13 AM)
Hmm, seems like they are quite interesting. I know they have Arctic cooling CPU fans also. The guy is ok, that day also i went kacau, he even open up the plastic show me, open side panel and tell me many Penang ppl dunno about Ah Lian lar, and say many people come his shop he tell them ah lian good and those ppl only say coolermaster good... sweat.gif

Crucial seems to be interesting, finally we get something here. So now we need someone to bring in XFX, BFG, EVGA, Team then we'll really have a happening community in Penang, but i wonder how many of us would actually buy these high end stuff here in PG? As prices in LY and LYN are cheaper...
AMD X2 BE2350... drool.gif ...I wonder if we would be able to find it on malaysian soil soon...Lol...They overclock like mofo and these little B*sta*ds suck as little power as a hamster sucking from the water canteen.  brows.gif

How bout ur 939 Dual Core opty plans? Scrapped? ohmy.gif I'm still waiting to get a job confirmation so i can place an order for a 170 from elhh.

Dinner in BJ? where did you go? I couldn't think of any nice places for dinner in BJ... shakehead.gif
Good to hear that u finally got the cable, RM45 is still not that bad considering how much you already spent for the card...
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oh.. plan to upgrade to C2D or BE2350 .. wub.gif

Want new technoloagy item tongue.gif

Still waiting the new C2D price and only make a decision.

The DDR ram is quite expensive, so plan to upgrade all to new platform and use DDR2.

oh.. u really still want to remain as 939 user?

Oh.. I just like KFC there. blush.gif it is better than KFC in Sungai Dua.. blush.gif

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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM)
Yup, that chap at Advanced tech also keep telling me Lian Li is good... Overclockers and Modders all choose lian li one. sweat.gif
That's when I told him that I'm actually using one at home. Then he change liao, keep telling me he actually dunno much about the Lian Li parts. laugh.gif

Wha~~? Those 45W CPUs are out already? cry.gif

Anyway, As for XFX and BFG, I think GZ carries them. Though I doubt many people in Penang buys those things.

Most of the time when I'm helping some aunties or uncles to buy PC or just parts, they'll tell me, "Aiyah, can use can liao lah. Don't need expensive one la. Even computers few years ago can play game what." sweat.gif

Then I'll give them a statistics breakdown. When they were using those cheap parts, they actually have breakdowns of about 1 parts almost every 2 or 3 months. While my [expensive system] is still lasting me for over 4 years and still able to play the latest games, burn almost any DVDs. tongue.gif

Just 2 years ago, I recommended one of my uncle to actually get a good system from a good shop. The only problems he have so far are software problems. smile.gif

Well, I just erm... sort of upgraded and downgraded my system. Bought the Athlon X2 3800+ CPU from @meno. Installed it into a Tforce 690G mobo and added 1GB (Initially wanted 2GB but Mix Tech don't have stock sad.gif ).

So now I've upgraded my CPU and Motherboard but considered downgraded my RAM and display already.  rclxub.gif

I think I've made a wrong choice in selecting this motherboard though.
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oh... why u regret to take the Tforce 690G?

It is very bad? Or just because of the build in graphic? It have HDMI output?

Campare with Nvidia 550 or 570 ,690 is not so good?


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Haha Brother , then u need to keep some money to upgrade your graphic card. Then no one will said u downgrade your system lo  tongue.gif . Anyway , ATI Radeon X1250 can consider very shit graphic card. Hope you dont mind. thumbup.gif
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Hehe... I'm still waiting for the second stick of RAM from you la... tongue.gif
I'm saving up for a new display card lo. tongue.gif

QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 16 2007, 12:22 PM)
oh... why u regret to take the Tforce 690G?

It is very bad? Or just because of the build in graphic? It have HDMI output?

Campare with Nvidia 550 or 570 ,690 is not so good?
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Eh, it's not very bad. In fact, it's very good. tongue.gif
My regret isn't about the quality or performance. It's just that I just found out that if I installed a new graphics card into it, then the motherboard isn't very special anymore.

Nvidia's boards all have their prefetching technology since the nforce2 days. It has been forgotten by many but that simple technology did make a difference in terms of performance. The new Barcelona Cores from AMD has similar prefetching technology built in though.
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Hehe... I'm still waiting for the second stick of RAM from you la... tongue.gif
I'm saving up for a new display card lo. tongue.gif
Eh, it's not very bad. In fact, it's very good. tongue.gif
My regret isn't about the quality or performance. It's just that I just found out that if I installed a new graphics card into it, then the motherboard isn't very special anymore.

Nvidia's boards all have their prefetching technology since the nforce2 days. It has been forgotten by many but that simple technology did make a difference in terms of performance. The new Barcelona Cores from AMD has similar prefetching technology built in though.
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oh. If just a build in graphic problem, then it is ok for me..
thanks for your opinion ya..
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How bout the handpicked by Victor Wang X6800??? brows.gif

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Ya, he was like that to me too. But when i start asking about a few other models, he started to erm...I actually dunno much bout Lian Li, if you want more detailed information i need to call my friend in KL... tongue.gif

Btw bro, hows the proc? Everything working well? I guess you should have get the standalone 570 chipsets, but the TA690g is quite well too from what i've heard and read, maybe the graphics are a little out, but at least it still comes with HDMI... tongue.gif

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I guess i'll stick to 939 for quite some time to go, wait till phenom is launched and see how it performs, then wait till the price enters my budget range, then only switch... biggrin.gif


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Hehe... I'm still waiting for the second stick of RAM from you la... tongue.gif
I'm saving up for a new display card lo. tongue.gif
Eh, it's not very bad. In fact, it's very good. tongue.gif
My regret isn't about the quality or performance. It's just that I just found out that if I installed a new graphics card into it, then the motherboard isn't very special anymore.

Nvidia's boards all have their prefetching technology since the nforce2 days. It has been forgotten by many but that simple technology did make a difference in terms of performance. The new Barcelona Cores from AMD has similar prefetching technology built in though.
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IMHO speaking i prefer mobo that comes with onboard, so u got spare onboard display in case GC is down.. The Biostar TA690G oso have good OC feature, mainly suits lite gamers or multimedia user... If really into gaming maybe u should get the 570U or 570SLi or 590SLi...
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How bout the handpicked by Victor Wang X6800??? brows.gif

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Ya, he was like that to me too. But when i start asking about a few other models, he started to erm...I actually dunno much bout Lian Li, if you want more detailed information i need to call my friend in KL... tongue.gif

Btw bro, hows the proc? Everything working well? I guess you should have get the standalone 570 chipsets, but the TA690g is quite well too from what i've heard and read, maybe the graphics are a little out, but at least it still comes with HDMI... tongue.gif

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I guess i'll stick to 939 for quite some time to go, wait till phenom is launched and see how it performs, then wait till the price enters my budget range, then only switch... biggrin.gif
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Some of the 690G motherboard didnt come with HDMI, if i am not mistaken.

I look at the bulk order just now from elhh..

It is look like no more Opteron alrd? hmm.gif

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IMHO speaking i prefer mobo that comes with onboard, so u got spare onboard display in case GC is down.. The Biostar TA690G oso have good OC feature, mainly suits lite gamers or multimedia user... If really into gaming maybe u should get the 570U or 570SLi or 590SLi...
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Actually i am doing some rendering.
Don't know what motherboard to take later. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 16 2007, 06:42 PM)
Some of the 690G motherboard didnt come with HDMI, if i am not mistaken.

I look at the bulk order just now from elhh..

It is look like no more Opteron alrd?  hmm.gif

Added on July 16, 2007, 6:43 pm
Actually i am doing some rendering.
Don't know what motherboard to take later.  shakehead.gif
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Huh, no more optys??? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
I'm too slow, now can only wait and see if anyone wants to sell second hand... sad.gif

Hmm, mobo...Go for the new DFI Lanparty, the one for AM2, or maybe the p35 Lanparty. Man those boards are damn kewl...Get an x6800, get a DFI, then put in 4gb of Crucial Baliistix Tracer, and put in your quadro (sli-ed), then it will be an ultra cool rig...
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Huh, no more optys??? cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
I'm too slow, now can only wait and see if anyone wants to sell second hand... sad.gif

Hmm, mobo...Go for the new DFI Lanparty, the one for AM2, or maybe the p35 Lanparty. Man those boards are damn kewl...Get an x6800, get a DFI, then put in 4gb of Crucial Baliistix Tracer, and put in your quadro (sli-ed), then it will be an ultra cool rig...
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oh..U PM him?

oh.. this is a ultra rig, but i will be ultra poor after bought this. sweat.gif

I am just looking a dual core processor and a mid end motherboard..
DFI... sweat.gif better not la.. to expensive alrd.. cry.gif
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U doing video rendering or 3D rendering??? If doing video rendering Biostar TA690G good enough, higher processor speed would better & 2GB of ram... Add on PCIE GC 2600XT highly recommended, good in video quality & good HD decoding... Lest make it short "your graphics card can decode the better, as it'll lower the overall used CPU cycles of your PC" Click Here For More Details

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4GB u r doing Vista 64bit???

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@darnell

U doing video rendering or 3D rendering??? If doing video rendering Biostar TA690G good enough, higher processor speed would better & 2GB of ram... Add on PCIE GC 2600XT highly recommended, good in video quality & good HD decoding... Lest make it short "your graphics card can decode the better, as it'll lower the overall used CPU cycles of your PC" Click Here For More Details

@meno

4GB u r doing Vista 64bit???
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I am doing 3D rendering. I am doing a heavy analysis in a software call ARCGIS. sweat.gif sweat.gif

I plan to upgrade my processor to dual core and 2G DDR2.

Still worry what to take now.. tongue.gif

C2D or AMDx2 BE?

It is because my budget not allow me to take high end processor. cry.gif
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Darnell, if you can't wait i would say go for the Pentium E series and overclock the hell out of it or get a middle end C2D. I dun think the BE will be available so easily in Malaysia, but i'm also very tempted by it actually, lower power consumption, good overclocking capabilities, overall a very nice proc. 2Gb ddr2, could be good enough for your needs, but if you have extra, can consider dumping for another 2GB as you're relying on heavy graphic and CAD rendering right? Who would complain having too much ram on a rig? tongue.gif

I would say, get a E2160, a Biostar 965P, and 2gb of Ram. You should have a very decent system for a good price there, add in your Quadro... drool.gif (good enough for me)

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I'm not planning for 4GB myself, at least for now. 2GB will be good enough. But for Darnell then it depends on how heavy his rendering jobs are. He should be doing a lot of CAD.

The 2600XT is a good card for HD rendering, takes the load away from the proc.
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 17 2007, 01:48 AM)
I am doing 3D rendering. I am doing a heavy analysis in a software call ARCGIS. sweat.gif  sweat.gif

I plan to upgrade my processor to dual core and 2G DDR2.

Still worry what to take now..  tongue.gif

C2D or AMDx2 BE?

It is because my budget not allow me to take high end processor.  cry.gif
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lol... Get budget AMD X2 dual core 65W would be better & Biostar TForce TA690G, 2GB ram is good enuf for XP or Vista... 3D rendering all is depend GC... check ur software system requirements... AFAIK ARCGIS system requirement quite low

@meno
XP Pro is kenot fully support 4GB lar doh.gif , even Vista not very stable... U need invest more money if going for Quadro...

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 17 2007, 05:50 AM)
lol... Get budget AMD X2 dual core 65W would be better & Biostar TForce TA690G, 2GB ram is good enuf for XP or Vista... 3D rendering all is depend GC... check ur software system requirements... AFAIK ARCGIS system requirement quite low

@meno
XP Pro is kenot fully support 4GB lar doh.gif , even Vista not very stable... U need invest more money if going for Quadro...
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ARCGIS basic requirement is quite slow, but when I want to run the analysis or Arc Scene which is doing the 3D, it is very slow... cry.gif

Have to see the price for C2D after 22 July. If the prcie is attractive, then I will go for C2D. If not, I will take AMDX2.

For motherboard, I think i will take 690G for AMD. Intel motherboard is abit expensive compare with AMD.

May be will take one 965 motherboard, but have to see the budget first. smile.gif

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Darnell, if you can't wait i would say go for the Pentium E series and overclock the hell out of it or get a middle end C2D. I dun think the BE will be available so easily in Malaysia, but i'm also very tempted by it actually, lower power consumption, good overclocking capabilities, overall a very nice proc. 2Gb ddr2, could be good enough for your needs, but if you have extra, can consider dumping for another 2GB as you're relying on heavy graphic and CAD rendering right? Who would complain having too much ram on a rig? tongue.gif

I would say, get a E2160, a Biostar 965P, and 2gb of Ram. You should have a very decent system for a good price there, add in your Quadro... drool.gif (good enough for me)

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I'm not planning for 4GB myself, at least for now. 2GB will be good enough. But for Darnell then it depends on how heavy his rendering jobs are. He should be doing a lot of CAD.

The 2600XT is a good card for HD rendering, takes the load away from the proc.
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Price for E2160 + 965P is quite reasonable. thumbup.gif

But I still want to know others C2D price after 22 July.

Scare it suddenly drop so much.. tongue.gif

I will run the analysis everyday, so may be just slightly OC it only. SO, I just plan to buy a value ram. tongue.gif
Save cost.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Get at least E4300 + Biostar P965 or 965PT + A-Data 1GB DDR2 800 x2... grab it now later is the same... coz Intel price drop as predict ram prices up makes not much difference, AFAIK low end proc prices drop not much...

IMHO Compare with X2 4200+ & E2160 price & performance, the x2 4200+ still cheaper & yet better performance... X2 still best for budget dualies..
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 17 2007, 11:04 AM)
@darnell

Get at least E4300 + Biostar P965 or 965PT + A-Data 1GB DDR2 800 x2... grab it now later is the same... coz Intel price drop as predict ram prices up makes not much difference, AFAIK low end proc prices drop not much...

IMHO Compare with X2 4200+ & E2160 price & performance, the x2 4200+ still cheaper & yet better performance... X2 still best for budget dualies..
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Actually i bought 2G of KVR 667 alrd. wub.gif wub.gif
Last time heard that price for ram will increase, so quickly go to buy 2X1G. wub.gif

Then, I plan to sell it because want to choose opteron 939.
But finally didnt do so.
Prefer new technology. . . tongue.gif

Thats why i want to wait until 22 July.
See how the price for intel? tongue.gif


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@meno,
u think i giggolo kah?still student la,where can i afford to have the X6800 Extreme?
*btw,i got myself a new wallet liao,no more pua kang.

i dont see any price changed yet,still waiting for the price to come,so this coming pc fair the price of processor will be very good i think.

anyway,i'm a 4GB GMH user,i dont see any benefit between 4GB and 2GB,pc shows only 3.5GB installed (in SP2),and 4GB is more difficult to overclock than 2GB.

AMD Brissy is better than E21 series?
u guys make sure of it?
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 17 2007, 04:50 AM)
lol... Get budget AMD X2 dual core 65W would be better & Biostar TForce TA690G, 2GB ram is good enuf for XP or Vista... 3D rendering all is depend GC... check ur software system requirements... AFAIK ARCGIS system requirement quite low

@meno
XP Pro is kenot fully support 4GB lar doh.gif , even Vista not very stable... U need invest more money if going for Quadro...
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Darnell already has a Quadro, so he doesn't need to spend money on it anymore. I'm not sure what OS is he running though.


QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 17 2007, 12:36 PM)
Actually i bought 2G of KVR 667 alrd.  wub.gif  wub.gif
Last time heard that price for ram will increase, so quickly go to buy 2X1G.  wub.gif

Then, I plan to sell it because want to choose opteron 939.
But finally didnt do so.
Prefer new technology. . .  tongue.gif

Thats why i want to wait until 22 July.
See how the price for intel?  tongue.gif
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Good move to buy rams when they were cheap, just compare how much has it increased now.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 17 2007, 07:21 PM)
@meno,
u think i giggolo kah?still student la,where can i afford to have the X6800 Extreme?
*btw,i got myself a new wallet liao,no more pua kang.

i dont see any price changed yet,still waiting for the price to come,so this coming pc fair the price of processor will be very good i think.

anyway,i'm a 4GB GMH user,i dont see any benefit between 4GB and 2GB,pc shows only 3.5GB installed (in SP2),and 4GB is more difficult to overclock than 2GB.

AMD Brissy is better than E21 series?
u guys make sure of it?
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No lar, where got think u giggolo, just tat giggolo's rig also lose to urs... tongue.gif
Good to hear that u no longer need to use the pua kang wallet...

Btw, it is true that the difference of 2gb and 4gb is barely noticable at almost all times...

I still think the E21 series will out perform the Brisbanes, but again, it the differences are only visible on benchmarks, if in real life, i doubt you gonna get that much differences in feeling as the differences in benchmarks show.
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I'd say stick to 2GB and just get the faster 800MHz sticks. 1066MHz is available but not JDEC compliant.

If use 4GB ram, better use 64bit OS instead.
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 17 2007, 10:55 PM)
I'd say stick to 2GB and just get the faster 800MHz sticks. 1066MHz is available but not JDEC compliant.

If use 4GB ram, better use 64bit OS instead.
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Hmm, quite true.
But the most KVR 667 sticks will do 800 easily if those Darnell get are Hynix FP-Y5s.


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@meno,Y5 is good overclocker?
i used them before and only can go the most 835mhz....stupid one,i think u r talking about FP-S5?
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jul 17 2007, 09:36 PM)
Darnell already has a Quadro, so he doesn't need to spend money on it anymore. I'm not sure what OS is he running though.
Good move to buy rams when they were cheap, just compare how much has it increased now.
No lar, where got think u giggolo, just tat giggolo's rig also lose to urs... tongue.gif
Good to hear that u no longer need to use the pua kang wallet...

Btw, it is true that the difference of 2gb and 4gb is barely noticable at almost all times...

I still think the E21 series will out perform the Brisbanes, but again, it the differences are only visible on benchmarks, if in real life, i doubt you gonna get that much differences in feeling as the differences in benchmarks show.
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I bought 2X 1G at RM99X2= RM198 wub.gif wub.gif

Finally i found Active xtream got BE2350 and BE2300 in their price list. RM369 & RM305.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(@meno @ Jul 18 2007, 01:13 AM)
Hmm, quite true.
But the most KVR 667 sticks will do 800 easily if those Darnell get are Hynix FP-Y5s.
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yaya. My KVR is Hynix FP-Y5 smile.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 18 2007, 06:37 AM)
@meno,Y5 is good overclocker?
i used them before and only can go the most 835mhz....stupid one,i think u r talking about FP-S5?
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FP-Y5 are not as good ad FP-S5. S5 is legend...
But the Y5 should be able to do 900 at least on average, it's one of the better batches from Hynix.

Even the D9DPN microns i have in hand can hit 900mhz easily(On 1.9v, never pushed them to 2.3v sweat.gif ), and as claimed by Kucingfight can reach DDR1000... drool.gif Too bad i dun have a rig to test them out again, gotta arrange with Lohwenli to OC it kaw kaw again...

QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 18 2007, 09:24 AM)
I bought 2X 1G at RM99X2= RM198  wub.gif  wub.gif

Finally i found Active xtream got BE2350 and BE2300 in their price list. RM369 & RM305..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
yaya. My KVR is Hynix FP-Y5  smile.gif
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Huhu, the prices were very very attractive...God, that was below my cost price when i conducted my bulk... doh.gif

Btw, the price for the BE series... doh.gif With that price, i'd rather take the E series pentium. Take a E2160 and OC till max. But anyhow,wait till the new price for the C2D only decide... laugh.gif The E series proper retail price is around RM280-RM300 for the E2160...

If got shop clear E6600 old stock for RM400 i'll grab instantly...(dreaming so early in the morning... yawn.gif )

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Hmm...
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/a...0/index.x?pg=13

I'm on 690G/IGP... doh.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jul 18 2007, 11:08 AM)
FP-Y5 are not as good ad FP-S5. S5 is legend...
But the Y5 should be able to do 900 at least on average, it's one of the better batches from Hynix.

Even the D9DPN microns i have in hand can hit 900mhz easily(On 1.9v, never pushed them to 2.3v sweat.gif ), and as claimed by Kucingfight can reach DDR1000... drool.gif  Too bad i dun have a rig to test them out again, gotta arrange with Lohwenli to OC it kaw kaw again...
Huhu, the prices were very very attractive...God, that was below my cost price when i conducted my bulk... doh.gif

Btw, the price for the BE series... doh.gif With that price, i'd rather take the E series pentium. Take a E2160 and OC till max. But anyhow,wait till the new price for the C2D only decide... laugh.gif The E series proper retail price is around RM280-RM300 for the E2160...

If got shop clear E6600 old stock for RM400 i'll grab instantly...(dreaming so early in the morning... yawn.gif )
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Yaya.. with that attractive price, i dont care that chipset alrd. tongue.gif

I think the price in the AX pricelist still can negotiate, it is look like AX always put a bit higher price in their price list...
Dont know why.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

Anyway, dont know when the new C2D price will appear in Penang?
Frankily speaking, I prefer not to buy in Pcfair, too many people and some times have no stock.. sweat.gif
It is better to go to shop 1 or 2 days before PC fair. tongue.gif

QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 18 2007, 11:42 AM)
Hmm...
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/a...0/index.x?pg=13

I'm on 690G/IGP... doh.gif
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Base on 3D Mark 06 CPU test, BE2350 is same level with C2D4300.. wub.gif


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Aiyah... Where got people buy PC during PC fair one? PC fair is to go see the booth babes only one mah... tongue.gif
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Aiyah... Where got people buy PC during PC fair one? PC fair is to go see the booth babes only one mah... tongue.gif
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A lot of people buy PC in PCfair leh..
U can ask seller here. tongue.gif
I saw Silence is so busy in Pc Fair last time...
Some shops even have no stock to give the clients.. sweat.gif

But.. normally i go PC fair just buy some ink and DVDs. biggrin.gif

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A lot of people buy PC in PCfair leh..
U can ask seller here.  tongue.gif
I saw Silence is so busy in Pc Fair last time...
Some shops even have no stock to give the clients..  sweat.gif

But.. normally  i go PC fair just buy some ink and DVDs.  biggrin.gif
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Haha .... That's really true. A lot of people buying during PC Fair.
I really hate PC Fair.




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i go pcfair hor jus to see got chance to "menggeser" abit lenglui kah chng(punggung) or not tongue.gif

pcfair nex month wor..so fast come again..but money dun come so fast tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silence @ Jul 18 2007, 04:13 PM)
Haha .... That's really true. A lot of people buying during PC Fair.
I really hate PC Fair.
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Hehe... You're working in the shop one mah... So during PC fair, usually you're extra busy one...

Last time I worked in PC fair before also... But since I don't work in shop, I just go there when PC fair opens, then go home when it ends... RM50 per day + free food. tongue.gif

Of course, last day is the best (best torture) liao. No need to sleep, busy packing and sending the stuff back to shop or store. Huhu, then boss will belanja makan. drool.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 18 2007, 05:05 PM)
i go pcfair hor jus to see got chance to "menggeser" abit lenglui kah chng(punggung) or not  tongue.gif

pcfair nex month wor..so fast come again..but money dun come so fast  tongue.gif
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That's a name really suitable for you power. "Hamsap King"






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QUOTE(silence @ Jul 18 2007, 05:13 PM)
Haha .... That's really true. A lot of people buying during PC Fair.
I really hate PC Fair.
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last time, you are worker , sure you hate PC fair.
but...

Now your are boss... must be so excited when saw people buy PC from you.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silence @ Jul 18 2007, 05:59 PM)
That's a name really suitable for you power. "Hamsap King"
Reards,
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really the name for him,salute to our "hamsap King" biggrin.gif

Silence,i also hate pc fair la,but bo huat,need money,what to do?
need to work for the almost botak uncle.(silnece,u know who is he right? laugh.gif )

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S5 is real legend,Twinmos Twister X which hit beyond 1300MHz and prime stable!!

PC fair go see leng lui around there,(maybe i see powerslide is taking pic of lenglui kah chng) shocking.gif shocking.gif

I never buy in pc fair,cause they r clearing old batch stock,so we go there buy rubbish only.sometimes the price is more expensive than usual day,not nice,some more got a lot of ppl,later touch here touch there then touch the wrong place rugi a lot. tongue.gif

silence,wan me to sponsor my air-brushed casing pc in ur showroom? icon_idea.gif
u can sponsor 2 8800Ultra and a 24inch LCD,we play game there. icon_rolleyes.gif

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really the name for him,salute to our "hamsap King" biggrin.gif

Silence,i also hate pc fair la,but bo huat,need money,what to do?
need to work for the almost botak uncle.(silnece,u know who is he right? laugh.gif )

brows.gif
S5 is real legend,Twinmos Twister X which hit beyond 1300MHz and prime stable!!

PC fair go see leng lui around there,(maybe i see powerslide is taking pic of lenglui kah chng)  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

I never buy in pc fair,cause they r clearing old batch stock,so we go there buy rubbish only.sometimes the price is more expensive than usual day,not nice,some more got a lot of ppl,later touch here touch there then touch the wrong place rugi a lot. tongue.gif

silence,wan me to sponsor my air-brushed casing pc in ur showroom?  icon_idea.gif
u can sponsor 2 8800Ultra and a 24inch LCD,we play game there. icon_rolleyes.gif
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One Words For PC Fair ' SXXK'




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actually hor, ya also.

Nowadays you can rarely see any computer shops in Penang with demo units or nice displays in the shop. Go into the shop all see boxes and screensavers only. tongue.gif
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No problemo,let me know if u want it,the uncle pc sucks one,we go there sapu all of them,haha....swisspac pun takut to u bro...

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PC Fair PC Fair lagi next month, Most of the people go PC Fair see leng lui or see new stuff nia eh ...
Seldom go buy eh. I everytime go there also see lenglui nia.. April's PC Fair was the best. Samsung counter lenglui damm chun. Muahahahaha drool.gif
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Where to find E6750 in Penang now arr?? Got any shops with it arr?? Current price in Penang??


*Somehow this topic has become a dealership question for penangites laugh.gif



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Where to find E6750 in Penang now arr?? Got any shops with it arr?? Current price in Penang??
*Somehow this topic has become a dealership question for penangites laugh.gif
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bro,actually u can find in penang,just u need to ask them to order for u,u cannot choose the batch,u cannot choose anything,they will give u a E6750 randomly.

the price u need to ask them.

u can pm silence to help. flex.gif
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so anjua? encik ace and encik diam gona demo 8800U SLI or not? organize laa..me poor no money buy at least can try awhile aso stim liao tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jul 19 2007, 08:24 PM)
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Where to find E6750 in Penang now arr?? Got any shops with it arr?? Current price in Penang??
*Somehow this topic has become a dealership question for penangites laugh.gif
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oh..I think penang people have to wait few more days after the intel price slash on 22 July.. shakehead.gif

U can PM silence or BUM and see. smile.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 20 2007, 12:10 PM)
bro,actually u can find in penang,just u need to ask them to order for u,u cannot choose the batch,u cannot choose anything,they will give u a E6750 randomly.

the price u need to ask them.

u can pm silence to help. flex.gif
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silence eh?? Thanks a lot for the insight... notworthy.gif

I've delayed my new rig for almost two month edy.. can't wait any longer... don't care what batch anymore.. as long as it is E6750 drool.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jul 20 2007, 08:02 PM)
silence eh?? Thanks a lot for the insight... notworthy.gif

I've delayed my new rig for almost two month edy.. can't wait any longer... don't care what batch anymore.. as long as it is E6750 drool.gif
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Skygate Technology Prangin E6550 & E6750 got ready stock lar... wut for need back to back order??
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Erm.. bro.. how much are they selling it arr??
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ah... really?? Aiseh... night edy... sad.gif
Erm.. bro.. how much are they selling it arr??
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I dono i juz drop by see onli, they've got E2610 also... Those new boxes come with large Core 2 Duo logos, that wut attract me walk into the shops...

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 21 2007, 12:01 AM)
I dono i juz drop by see onli, they've got E2610 also... Those new boxes come with large Core 2 Duo logos, that wut attract me walk into the shops...
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E2610 ? or E2160 ??

In they bring in now, then maybe it is a new price processor.

Sometimes ya, I saw Mix tech product quite same with them...

may be u can ask silence and see

I just guess la. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 21 2007, 12:49 AM)
E2610 ? or E2160 ??

In they bring in now, then maybe it is a new price processor.

Sometimes ya, I saw Mix tech product quite same with them...

may be u can ask silence and see

I just guess la.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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AFAIK... The prices are very competitive too... ATM Skygate got more variety, they juz done a new facelift by bring in acessories & lots of cable...
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Maybe their supplier is same.

bro zeustronic,r u work in Skygate?

i cant find any cheap hardwares in penang except mix tech and skygate,but they didnt have high end stuff.....


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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 21 2007, 10:41 AM)
Maybe their supplier is same.

bro zeustronic,r u work in Skygate?

i cant find any cheap hardwares in penang except mix tech and skygate,but they didnt have high end stuff.....
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Nope.... I working in Prangin & i'm juz regular customer alwis lepak there... I used buy stuff from 1 shop onli RMA claim easy, kenot confuse.... as u can see my whole rig i get from Skygate & CM Product i get NC Comp...

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oh,i seldom go prangin la...

cause the pc shop there got nothing to see one....

BJ better,can find friend go kacau together...
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 21 2007, 10:41 AM)
Maybe their supplier is same.

bro zeustronic,r u work in Skygate?

i cant find any cheap hardwares in penang except mix tech and skygate,but they didnt have high end stuff.....
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yaya.. I guess so ..
Their supplier may be is same.. tongue.gif

Some of penang people always tell me Pc depot parts is the cheapest in Penang, but i dont think so...
There are a lot of shop in BJ which is selling more cheap than PC depot.. smile.gif

BJ now become small small lowyat in Penang. tongue.gif

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AFAIK... The prices are very competitive too... ATM Skygate got more variety, they juz done a new facelift by bring in acessories & lots of cable...
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Prangin car park is so so so expensive..
Go there to have a lunch, than look at the computer parts, then the car park free is RM4. sweat.gif sweat.gif

I saw KL Thundermatch Pricelist just now, they drop the C2D price alrd.. rclxm9.gif

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Oh sh!t... sad.gif

Skygate's E6750 has been sold out edy... last person come and buy it right infront of me sad.gif

So sad man...



How about BJ.. recommend me some PC shops that is selling E6750 and most importantly... trustable smile.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ Jul 21 2007, 04:53 PM)
Oh sh!t... sad.gif

Skygate's E6750 has been sold out edy... last person come and buy it right infront of me sad.gif

So sad man...
How about BJ.. recommend me some PC shops that is selling E6750 and most importantly... trustable smile.gif
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really so fast ar?
How much they sell ?
very cheap? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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that's why lorr... really make me leaves with a broken heart sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Wonder if BJ got some nice shops selling E6750 though... I really seldom go to BJ.. so I really dun know which shops to go sad.gif
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 21 2007, 05:47 PM)
really so fast ar?
How much they sell ?
very cheap?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Not sure I heard the coming new stock this coming monday or teusday, they didn't expect those proc sell like hot cakes....

Expected price
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 22 2007, 12:23 AM)
Not sure I heard the coming new stock this coming monday or teusday, they didn't expect those proc sell like hot cakes....

Expected price
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I see.. that why la..So many people buy it.. it is new price after slash alrd. smile.gif

Still havent see any penang shop sell intel proc at new price. They are the 1st one.. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 22 2007, 01:30 AM)
I see.. that why la..So many people buy it..  it is new price after slash alrd.  smile.gif

Still havent see any penang shop sell intel proc at new price. They are the 1st one..  rclxms.gif
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E2140 & E6550 still got AFAIK... think of getting 1 oso but need looks OC mobo 1st, btw prangin car park weekend onli RM2 weekdays & RM3 weekends & basement is per hours basis no wonder u got charge so expensive...

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yup... E6550 is still available...
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Oh Sh!T.... much lower price than i expected confirm price is:
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AFAIK new E2140 replace Pentium D 9xx series & Pentium 4 now.... for E2160 price change not much eh....

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 22 2007, 08:24 AM)
E2140 & E6550 still got AFAIK... think of getting 1 oso but need looks OC mobo 1st, btw prangin car park weekend onli RM2 weekdays & RM3 weekends & basement is per hours basis no wonder u got charge so expensive...
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oh. yaya.. i laZY To turn so high for the prangin 6 floor carparks.. tongue.gif

So, normaly i prefer basement car park.
45 minute for RM1.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

oh. E6550 FSB 1333 for only RM605? sweat.gif sweat.gif

Too attractive.. drool.gif drool.gif

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yeah... veeerrrryyyy attractive. The stock is still there as of this evening. Why don't you get one?? brows.gif

I'm aiming for E6850 now instead. smile.gif



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oh. yaya.. i laZY To turn so high for the prangin 6 floor carparks..  tongue.gif

So, normaly i prefer basement car park.
45 minute for RM1..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

oh. E6550 FSB 1333 for only RM605?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Too attractive..  drool.gif  drool.gif
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wah,shi bo?
E6550 for only rm605?

cannot la,very attractive la....

who got one already?
show us ur result.

anyway,this saturday our penang lyn members got TT section.

those who will join us:
*confirmed
^not confirmed

*Irangan (extreme hardcore overclocker)
*coolice (extreme hardcore overclocker)
*@meno (hardcore overclocker)
*AceCombat (n00b softcore overclocker)
^powerslide (hardcore overclocker)
^kucingfight (hardcore overclocker)
^lohwenli (hardcore overclocker)
^darnell (noob in hardware)

the rest who wanna join us,pls update me by pm and i'll put ur name here.

Date:29 July 2007
Time:11am to 4pm
Venue:Bj Complex
Section included: Teh Tarik off course,kacau hardware shop in BJ,go lepak and update ourselves about new hardwares in penang....

(irangan and coolice are special invited from KL to Penang to share their knowledges with us)

anything just share here.

do pm me for ur name to be put in the list. rclxms.gif

sms me 016-4098398 for more information and ur name in the list. cool.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 22 2007, 10:01 PM)
wah,shi bo?
E6550 for only rm605?

cannot la,very attractive la....

who got one already?
show us ur result.

anyway,this saturday our penang lyn members got TT section.

those who will join us:
*confirmed
^not confirmed

*Irangan (extreme hardcore overclocker)
*coolice (extreme hardcore overclocker)
*@meno (hardcore overclocker)
*AceCombat (n00b softcore overclocker)
^powerslide (hardcore overclocker)
^kucingfight (hardcore overclocker)
^lohwenli (hardcore overclocker)

the rest who wanna join us,pls update me by pm and i'll put ur name here.

Date:29 July 2007
Time:11am to 4pm
Venue:Bj Complex
Section included: Teh Tarik off course,kacau hardware shop in BJ,go lepak and update ourselves about new hardwares in penang....

(irangan and coolice are special invited from KL to Penang to share their knowledges with us)

anything just share here.

do pm me for ur name to be put in the list. rclxms.gif
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Yalor.. the price is too attractive.. rclxm9.gif

oh.. got lowyat KL-penang gathering oh..
Plz put me in the interested but not confirm list.

^ darnell (noob in hardware)
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 22 2007, 09:01 PM)

^Irangan (extreme hardcore overclocker)
*coolice (extreme softcore overclocker)
*@meno (hardcore overclocker)
*AceCombat (n00b softcore overclocker)
^powerslide (hardcore overclocker)
^kucingfight (hardcore overclocker)
^lohwenli (hardcore overclocker)

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correction biggrin.gif
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Yalor.. the price is too attractive..  rclxm9.gif

oh.. got lowyat KL-penang gathering oh..
Plz put me in the interested but not confirm list.

^ darnell (noob in hardware)
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added to list bro,confirm with me

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Aiyah...
I would like to join too but too bad I've got assignment due date and exams coming up. cry.gif
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bro,come la,just a while only,cause coolice and irangan got come,u really no wan join ah?
bro,i also got test mah in PSDC,but still will go!!! rclxms.gif

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that day he called me and said ok wor....
cause he told me his boss asked him to come over to penang and do something.
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hope that u can join us.
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eh....no la,where got software member in K.O.C?

Added on July 22, 2007, 11:01 pm
added to list bro,confirm with me

Added on July 22, 2007, 11:02 pm
bro,come la,just a while only,cause coolice and irangan got come,u really no wan join ah?
bro,i also got test mah in PSDC,but still will go!!! rclxms.gif
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okok.. thanks bro .. smile.gif

I will confirm with you later.
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bro,come la,just a while only,cause coolice and irangan got come,u really no wan join ah?
bro,i also got test mah in PSDC,but still will go!!! rclxms.gif
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Aiyah... Like I said, I wish I can. unsure.gif
I really can't afford to fail anything ler...
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Wow @AceCombat where do u all meet at BJ?? As BJ not small~~

might go peeping brows.gif all sifu there ~~ haha as i too noob no dare to come out~

And that day is my BDay oh~~~ Give a present woo~~ ( erm 8800GTS la)

Some more ur title need to edit bit as ~~ we going off topic now~

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Wow @AceCombat where do u all meet at BJ?? As BJ not small~~

might go peeping brows.gif all sifu there ~~ haha as i too noob no dare to come out~

And that day is my BDay oh~~~ Give a present woo~~ ( erm 8800GTS la)

Some more ur title need to edit bit as ~~ we going off topic now~
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we meet at BJ somewhere else (dont know which place is a good place to meet up first)

bro,i more n00b than u la,super duper n00b, laugh.gif

so because i n00b only i come out and join them to teach me something lo,anything mah.

ur BDay ah? i give u present a ASSus 0808 GTZ flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif

no problem,off topic also can say one. whistling.gif
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oi..apa ni..apasai saya ala hardcore overclocker punya tag

saya oni hardporn watcher tag oni suit laa tongue.gif

this saturday TT ar..duno can make or not wor..mebb hav to work leh..thursday will konfirm with u ah ace sad.gif
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eh...
hardcore porno producer!!!

ok,konfirm with me,let me know on thursday.
if too less ppl then i have to call off....
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wow, so many penangites....
last time i though BJ was the best place to get computer stuffs....i was wrong about that i guess
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I think AceCombat should change thread title d, here has bcome Penangites price & dealer guide discussions....

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 24 2007, 09:03 AM)
I think AceCombat should change thread title d, here has bcome Penangites price & dealer guide discussions....
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YALOR if not many penangites don know we have a gathering here~ hmm.gif
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got update liao,pls proceed to
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/493333

keep me updated by pm or post there.
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wanna ask something, since everyone here from penang, where is best place to get hardware which offer best price n has knowledge bout it.

i just got feed up with PC Depot lately, their stock always run out, n just recently, i replaced my mobo which later i found that they misfed info me doh.gif

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Jul 24 2007, 05:07 PM)
wanna ask something, since everyone here from penang, where is best place to get hardware which offer best price n has knowledge bout it.

i just got feed up with PC Depot lately, their stock always run out, n just recently, i replaced my mobo which later i found that they misfed info me doh.gif
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hi bro,honestly speaking,we cant find any good hardwares in penang,most of my hardware i got from outside penang sometime i imported them.

fyi,pcdepot,dont buy from them,i got 2 friends working inside,ask me not to buy from them.

most of the ram and some mobo,they got it from factory which is RMA-ed and sell as new doh.gif

i mean,the mobo actually die and for 1-to-1 exchange,then the factory repait the spoilt one,after that,pcdepot will get from them.

dont buy from them. nod.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 24 2007, 06:31 PM)
hi bro,honestly speaking,we cant find any good hardwares in penang,most of my hardware i got from outside penang sometime i imported them.

fyi,pcdepot,dont buy from them,i got 2 friends working inside,ask me not to buy from them.

most of the ram and some mobo,they got it from factory which is RMA-ed and sell as new doh.gif

i mean,the mobo actually die and for 1-to-1 exchange,then the factory repait the spoilt one,after that,pcdepot will get from them.

dont buy from them. nod.gif
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noted n understood. thx for telling me. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 24 2007, 07:31 PM)
hi bro,honestly speaking,we cant find any good hardwares in penang,most of my hardware i got from outside penang sometime i imported them.

fyi,pcdepot,dont buy from them,i got 2 friends working inside,ask me not to buy from them.

most of the ram and some mobo,they got it from factory which is RMA-ed and sell as new doh.gif

i mean,the mobo actually die and for 1-to-1 exchange,then the factory repait the spoilt one,after that,pcdepot will get from them.

dont buy from them. nod.gif
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wa.. like that also can ar..
Thats why la, their price are so so attractive.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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wa.. like that also can ar..
Thats why la, their price are so so attractive.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Wei Bro, Their price not really attractive la. tongue.gif






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yea..price not attractive but last time i visit the b'worth branch here got one lenglui work there..more attrative tongue.gif

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 24 2007, 07:47 PM)
yea..price not attractive but last time i visit the b'worth branch here got one lenglui work there..more attrative  tongue.gif
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aiyo this powerslide ah....
really like silence said one,
super hamsap king,always go see lenglui nia,u go there buy hardwares or buy boobs? rclxms.gif

btw,their price sometime is cheap for those hardwares (ram,pendrive)

be ware.... hmm.gif
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Only newbies will go to PC Depot . PC Depot advertise that he is the cheapest, harga kilang. But what for, when we go there and looking for something he really cheap. They told us no stocks no stocks. Is that the way they drag customer to their shops ?
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more ppl exciting mah...
harga kilang?
then if harga kilang then they no need eanr then who is going to pay for the rent,electricity?
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Actually there's one advantage PC Depot has which even many shops in KL dun have.
AFAIK, only at PC Depot you can pay via Credit Card with NO extra charge, even in Lowyat they charge you 3%.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 25 2007, 01:52 PM)
more ppl exciting mah...
harga kilang?
then if harga kilang then they no need eanr then who is going to pay for the rent,electricity?
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Harga Kilang in another way means gang thao stock oso, can be considered fake, smuggle or stolen stock:P... for example Dell products not suppose to sell at retail shops... But how come they got it...

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anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Added on July 27, 2007, 11:30 pmanyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

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Wei Bro, Their price not really attractive la.  tongue.gif
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yaya.. I check with your pricelist before, a lot of parts you sell are more cheaper.. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 28 2007, 12:29 AM)
anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Wah. so siok ar.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

Why dell always give a lot of benefits to worker ar? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 28 2007, 12:29 AM)
anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Added on July 27, 2007, 11:30 pmanyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed
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Q6400 retail pack or tray??? any staff wanna sell their proc???
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 27 2007, 11:29 PM)
anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Added on July 27, 2007, 11:30 pmanyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed
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Aiyah. My friend work in Dell don't need 10 years also can get a lot of free stuff already la. tongue.gif

One of them includes a Raptor 160GB drive which boots vista (can see start button) in 3 seconds and usable within 10 seconds. whistling.gif
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bro,is 150GB la,anyway,no care whether it's tray or retail,Quad Core 2.13GHz,u still wanna kira it can be used or not ah?
as long as it's working then oc it kaw kaw.

anyway,i'm RAID raptor with 0 but the performance is not like what u describe la. sweat.gif
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Harga Kilang in another way means gang thao stock oso, can be considered fake, smuggle or stolen stock:P... for example Dell products not suppose to sell at retail shops... But how come they got it...
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Ok, firstly not even PC Depot, all the other stock which you see in retail stores are the same, they just don't suppose to be there.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 27 2007, 11:29 PM)
anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Added on July 27, 2007, 11:30 pmanyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed
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Bro, Dell in Malaysia is only 11 years old, they came in in 1996.
And for Dell employees which have served 10 years, there are not many.
You can differentiate them by their tag, but seriously, very very few.

QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 28 2007, 09:02 AM)
Aiyah. My friend work in Dell don't need 10 years also can get a lot of free stuff already la. tongue.gif

One of them includes a Raptor 160GB drive which boots vista (can see start button) in 3 seconds and usable within 10 seconds. whistling.gif
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How did he get those stuff? I'm really curious... hmm.gif

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 28 2007, 09:19 AM)
bro,is 150GB la,anyway,no care whether it's tray or retail,Quad Core 2.13GHz,u still wanna kira it can be used or not ah?
as long as it's working then oc it kaw kaw.

anyway,i'm RAID raptor with 0 but the performance is not like what u describe la. sweat.gif
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Bro, Just FYI, Dell do have 160GB Raptors. I do not know how, but it is from what i know.
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huh?
WD oem specially for Dell with additional 10GB?
and the performance is really kicking like n305er said?
if like that ia lso wanna look for it.
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I'm not sure but i saw it in their spec sheet for Dell USA. They have 160gb Raptors as upgrade option...Xkan dell mistake a 150gb as 160gb kot?

Bout the performance, i have no idea as i haven't laid my hands on any yet. Wait till i get one then i tell you hows the performance.
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go to find Mix Tech in 4th floor,then ask them,they got a lot of AM2 Biostar mobo to choose.

@meno,is it really 10000RPM 160GB Raptor?
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bro,is 150GB la,anyway,no care whether it's tray or retail,Quad Core 2.13GHz,u still wanna kira it can be used or not ah?
as long as it's working then oc it kaw kaw.

anyway,i'm RAID raptor with 0 but the performance is not like what u describe la. sweat.gif
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i think u can feel the performance if ur doin hi-res painting. or so it was claimed by hi-res painter.

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ok thank. mixtech pricelist in pc1stop.net is not up to date. where i can download the latest price list?

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How did he get those stuff? I'm really curious... hmm.gif
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Ehh... Things that Dell doesn't want anymore, he take lor... whistling.gif

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 28 2007, 03:34 PM)
huh?
WD oem specially for Dell with additional 10GB?
and the performance is really kicking like n305er said?
if like that ia lso wanna look for it.
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Dell has a lot of stuff that other shops don't have... That even includes wireless Bluetooth headsets, etc.
As for the performace, My PC is almost exactly like his current computer. Only thing difference is I have better ram and we have different motherboard.

So, those 2 things usually don't contribute to boot up times. So the only thing left different is the Hard disk.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 29 2007, 09:28 AM)
@meno,is it really 10000RPM 160GB Raptor?
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Yup it's really raptor la. They even have SAS drives. Serial Attached SCSI (SCSI drives using SATA).
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 29 2007, 09:28 AM)
go to find Mix Tech in 4th floor,then ask them,they got a lot of AM2 Biostar mobo to choose.

@meno,is it really 10000RPM 160GB Raptor?
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Yup, 10k rpm raptor.
See this link at the hard drive section:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/featu...s=19&l=en&s=dhs
It's the customization link of the highest end XPS Gaming Desktop.

QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 29 2007, 11:52 AM)
Ehh... Things that Dell doesn't want anymore, he take lor... whistling.gif

Dell has a lot of stuff that other shops don't have... That even includes wireless Bluetooth headsets, etc.
As for the performace, My PC is almost exactly like his current computer. Only thing difference is I have better ram and we have different motherboard.
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Hmm..things that Dell doesn't want anymore... hmm.gif
He still got kangtao ar for the Raptor?

Yup, it is true that Dell has a lot of stuff that you can't find outside.

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it's already 18 pages but is the topic still floating around AArado?
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it's already 18 pages but is the topic still floating around AArado?
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No lah... Just that TS lazy to change topic only... rolleyes.gif
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Should be renamed to Penang PC Talk.
Talk whatever which is related to Penang & PC here...LOL...
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can can can,i change for u all now!
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can can can,i change for u all now!
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K.C , create one more topic , Best PC Shop In Penang. Let vote some shop to give Penangites to know which shop is good and bad. tongue.gif






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K.C , create one more topic , Best PC Shop In Penang. Let vote some shop to give Penangites to know which shop is good and bad.  tongue.gif
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aiyoooooo wat a idea..free promo ar for u..u noe laa which we will vote laugh.gif
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ya lo,bad idea....anyway,will do!
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LOL...
That's the best marketing strategy of the century.

Silence:
You're from Mix Tech rite? Next time drop by BJ will go c u, might need some stuff once i get my pay...laugh.gif Btw, sent u a PM regarding something i need.
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LOL...
That's the best marketing strategy of the century.

Silence:
You're from Mix Tech rite? Next time drop by BJ will go c u, might need some stuff once i get my pay...laugh.gif Btw, sent u a PM regarding something i need.
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@meno,so secret meh,what u buy?

silence,when to go meet u take the things?
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this guy must be wanted to do something nice for his pc liao brows.gif
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I want to do a lot for my PC, but not now. Haven't even got my 1st salary sad.gif

Btw, it's a quotation for my friend, i still need some quotations, will draft out and send to Silence soon.

My 1st target now for my PC, Dell 30"/37" Widescreen Ultrasharp but that will burn a hole in my pocket. 2nd, 160Gb raptor if someone could help me get it. 3rd, a better proc for my 939, anyone wanna sell cheap cheap Opty dualies to me, budget very very tight...
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wah....a very good spec wor.

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just finish doing giggolo right?

anyway,search in CPU section got 3 person wanna sell 165 if not mistaken.
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All price no good. Asking as much as ELHH's new bulk price, just that new stock is scarce.

Gigolo, no lar, dun worry i won't come rebut ur business one. laugh.gif
Me now working lor, normal office work, sometimes 8-5, sometimes 9-6, but most of the time never get to go back sharp on time. Then by the time i cross the bridge and reach home, it's usually quite late already, thats y din get to chat with u thru MSN often.

My current rig is just a cheapo rig, so plan to upgrade to something which i've been craving for since very long ago.

I'm also looking for a decent soundcard for a decent price and also maybe a DX10 GC if i change to >30". My 7300GT will choke to death running at the native resolution of the LCD in games. Aiming maybe a cheap 8800GTS maybe.
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bro,not worth getting dual core opty nowadays,why dont u just get a E21 with cheapo price?

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The problem is, i'm tight on budget lar. Even if i get the E2 series, i'll need to fork out extra for a decent board and a pair of nice rams, so extra cost is implied there. I just want something which will last me through until the Phenom is out, then i can compare on which to get.

SLI 8800? not that crazy lar, single 8800GTS will do for me, nowadays even no time to game, maybe might as well keep up the money in the bank and retire from overclocking...LOL...

Actually waiting for the best timing to get a new proper rig. This current rig will be relegated as my 2nd rig and my current 2nd rig will become the 3rd rig. And all those other rigs i have at home will start to form my very own personal computer and parts museum...laugh.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Aug 2 2007, 06:31 PM)
The problem is, i'm tight on budget lar. Even if i get the E2 series, i'll need to fork out extra for a decent board and a pair of nice rams, so extra cost is implied there. I just want something which will last me through until the Phenom is out, then i can compare on which to get.

SLI 8800? not that crazy lar, single 8800GTS will do for me, nowadays even no time to game, maybe might as well keep up the money in the bank and retire from overclocking...LOL...

Actually waiting for the best timing to get a new proper rig. This current rig will be relegated as my 2nd rig and my current 2nd rig will become the 3rd rig. And all those other rigs i have at home will start to form my very own personal computer and parts museum...laugh.gif
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lame excuse spotted!! laugh.gif

anyway,the more pc u do,the more money u wasted bro.

i got 5 rigs cry.gif wasted a bungalo liao.
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I expect to see HD2900XT in PC Fair...
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I'm very tempted with HD2900XT's price... But their drivers.... shakehead.gif
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can ask bout Mp3/media player stuff?

which shop offer better variety n price wise for it. im more into hdd type player than flash type?
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That would be Zen I think... They specialize in many MP3 players from Samsungs, to Creatives and Ipods.
Located at Gurney Plaza.

BUT... If you're willing to spend slightly more and willing to learn a little bit about the Sonic Stage Software, I'd recommend Sony MP3 players...

Their sound quality and battery life is extraordinary way beyond any other MP3 players have.

I had one which plays on CD.. I encoded them using their own ATRAC format and it can store almost half my entire hard drive's worth of MP3 into just 1 CD.

And running only on 2 AA batteries, it lasts for weeks playing 12 hours daily.

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it seem that sony mostly provide only flash type player.
i already owned a 20 gb mp3 player, n i plan to get 60 gb or more mp3/media player, sony doesnt seem to fit the spec that i wanted sad.gif

n thx for tellin bout the shop.
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2900XT i thought already got shop in Penang selling?
Pristine selling Asus one,price forgot liao.
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it seem that sony mostly provide only flash type player.
i already owned a 20 gb mp3 player, n i plan to get 60 gb or more mp3/media player, sony doesnt seem to fit the spec that i wanted sad.gif

n thx for tellin bout the shop.
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Well, Like I said, only IF you're willing to learn a little about the software Sony uses. smile.gif
Then 8GB will easily overcome an entire hard drive with their own format. smile.gif
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QUOTE(n305er @ Aug 2 2007, 11:57 PM)
I'm very tempted with HD2900XT's price... But their drivers.... shakehead.gif
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Irenic used 2900XT, as he said 2900XT drivers much matured than NVidia ATM... any brand will do, AFAIK their using thee same cooler, As for Asus little weird bcoz of the Stalker vinvyl on it, making it more ugly.. I around thing RM16XX...

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Well, Like I said, only IF you're willing to learn a little about the software Sony uses. smile.gif
Then 8GB will easily overcome an entire hard drive with their own format. smile.gif
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wats the compression ratio? if i can fit 80 gb of song into 8gb without quality loss, then it should be ok.
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Irenic used 2900XT, as he said 2900XT drivers much matured than NVidia ATM... any brand will do, AFAIK their using thee same cooler, As for Asus little weird bcoz of the Stalker vinvyl on it, making it more ugly.. I around thing RM16XX...
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Not if you keep getting VPU recover errors all the time due to driver instability.
From what I know, ATI drivers should be better in terms of performance but Nvidia is a lot more stable.

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wats the compression ratio? if i can fit 80 gb of song into 8gb without quality loss, then it should be ok.
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Depends on what your encoding was from 80Gb to which encoding you want to use for ATRAC.
last time I believe i can fit approx 10 or more Albums into 650MB.

I'd recommend you try it out at the shop when you have the chance to hear the quality for yourself. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(n305er @ Aug 3 2007, 12:27 PM)
Not if you keep getting VPU recover errors all the time due to driver instability.
From what I know, ATI drivers should be better in terms of performance but Nvidia is a lot more stable.
Depends on what your encoding was from 80Gb to which encoding you want to use for ATRAC.
last time I believe i can fit approx 10 or more Albums into 650MB.

I'd recommend you try it out at the shop when you have the chance to hear the quality for yourself. biggrin.gif
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I think the VPU recover not VPU error, It's recover itself without restarting the system... As I've try 8600GT too playing FEAR or Battlefield 2 the game hanged or stuck a few times unable exit to Windows, AFAIK driver problem??
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VPU recover is usually the driver errors and not the ATI cards itself...
And it's been the same since my old Radeon 9600pro

As for your 8600, I'm not sure though hmm.gif Could be anything from Ram to CPU to GPU, or even software...

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VPU recover is usually the driver errors and not the ATI cards itself...
And it's been the same since my old Radeon 9600pro

As for your 8600, I'm not sure though hmm.gif  Could be anything from Ram to CPU to GPU, or even software...
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nop... I tried tested between my X1950Pro & my frens Gigabyte 8600GT, its not cause from ram or CPU... relax bro since ATi X800 & above VPU recover very very seldom occured... since u already AMD proc, AMD chipset mobo & ur onboard is ATi oso...
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yesterday i been to autocity, i found that there is one shop there going to open as it mall....is the biggest in penang it stated there.. probably going to be like lowyat plaza...
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Aug 5 2007, 08:34 AM)
yesterday i been to autocity, i found that there is one shop there going to open as it mall....is the biggest in penang it stated there.. probably going to be like lowyat plaza...
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The AutoCity doing very well there, it might grow if rental there is cheap... As U know IT product profit margin quite low & most important thing us must big market volume, if the rental is high...
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Aug 5 2007, 07:34 AM)
yesterday i been to autocity, i found that there is one shop there going to open as it mall....is the biggest in penang it stated there.. probably going to be like lowyat plaza...
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AutoCity turning into PC City?
Tats good, as long as they can attract some real good vendors with more choices in, then it will be a great place to shop in.
That is one thing Penang seriously lacks, a big IT mall which could accomodate to all Penangites PC needs.
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AutoCity turning into PC City?
Tats good, as long as they can attract some real good vendors with more choices in, then it will be a great place to shop in.
That is one thing Penang seriously lacks, a big IT mall which could accomodate to all Penangites PC needs.
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yaya.. agree.
Penang really need a IT mall like Lowyat.. rclxms.gif

but.. I think the rental for new mall normally is expensive, is it suitable for computer shop? hmm.gif

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If they really build up a IT city at Auto City, then must go liao...

Once in awhile will have lots of short skirts one... brows.gif
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No IT centre will do well in Penang simply because the Penang IT market is too small and is not enough to be shared by so many players.

Only Lowyat and Imbi are successful as an IT centre in Malaysia. Even so, not every PC dealer at Lowyat and Imbi are doing well. The smaller shops come and go; here today gone tomorrow.

The IT shops at the Mines, The Curve, Sunway Pryamid and Mid-Valley are struggling to maintain their tenants. Even at PJ Digital Mall about 80% are still losing money. At 1-Utama, the few shops there are doing fine due to less competition and they are handling different products.

At Johor Baru, the IT shops at Holiday Plaza and Landmark are fighting to survive.

Over at Ipoh, at Yik Foong, the IT shops are also struggling. Redcom have to look elsewhere for biz.

In Alor Star, there are three main complexes with PC shops; at Citypoint, Pacific and at Sentosa. If you think that they are doing well, then, you have to think again.

In Penang island, there used to be only one IT centre at Komtar but now you have only one computer shop still operating there. After Komtar, PC dealers moved over to 1-Stop but had recently seen the closure of 5 computer shops from the 6th Floor. Not much is left there. Prangin Mall tried to be the IT centre for Penang but with a management team that is not accomodating nor aggressive, it could not live up to its aspirations. What is left in Penang is at Bukit Jambul complex with more PC shops to resemble an IT centre. But the biz volume is not sufficient to maintain so many computer shops on the island; so most are struggling to survive. So you reckon that the SiberCity at AutoCity will do well? Several IT shops at Gurney Plaza have since closed and the same will happen at Queensbay. I would not put my bets on AutoCity!
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i think there's too little promotion and awareness activities among the end users. Therefore, shops using basic business techniques like Dell or HP easily wins the market share.

Let's say if all the shops in BJ joint forces once in awhile to hold an event (Maybe case modding demo, Overclocking competition or just plain 1/2 day lan party at the ground floor), then maybe more people will start to get tempted and interested in custom PCs rather then buying the cheaper Dells or HP.

If you noticed at PC fair, almost no one is selling their customized PC anymore. Everyone is either selling HPs or Acer or just accessories or consumables.

There's no one making competitive comparison to promote their product.
At every booth, everyone is just displaying their products. And buyers can only compare which of their own products are better.

Wouldn't it be better just to place a cheap Dell LCD beside a slightly more expensive Viewsonic, LG or Samsung LCD? it's very obvious to see the difference between cheap Dell TN panels vs those other branded LCDs. Thus, the stores can actually attract more buyers that way.

And quite honestly, if the shop does not have enough budget to do live comparison, they can always opt for large printouts of Magazines...

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In the good old days, those boring shops like Compusonic, Ztronic, etc fell because younger/newer shops uses these techniques to attract people. But unfortunately, right after the economical crisis, most of the shops themself turned kinda dull. You don't get a chance to poke around the shop enjoying 3D mark demos anymore.

Well, I'm out of the PC sales business a long time already. So I might be wrong in my opinion above... Perhaps it's just market demand that forces the shops to just sell stuff normally and not make things exiting or fun anymore.

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And just last week, I saw the TT Mozart at Pristine. at first I got a little exited and walked nearer to have a look... Mana tahu they just setup the PC using an RM800 casing just to surf net doh.gif

The lady there was helpful in trying to answer what I asked... But still, that's all she did. She could have took the remote control and show off the capability of the Mozart. At least if I walked away, it might have attracted other passers by...

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i think there's too little promotion and awareness activities among the end users. Therefore, shops using basic business techniques like Dell or HP easily wins the market share.

Let's say if all the shops in BJ joint forces once in awhile to hold an event (Maybe case modding demo, Overclocking competition or just plain 1/2 day lan party at the ground floor), then maybe more people will start to get tempted and interested in custom PCs rather then buying the cheaper Dells or HP.

If you noticed at PC fair, almost no one is selling their customized PC anymore. Everyone is either selling HPs or Acer or just accessories or consumables.

There's no one making competitive comparison to promote their product.
At every booth, everyone is just displaying their products. And buyers can only compare which of their own products are better.

Wouldn't it be better just to place a cheap Dell LCD beside a slightly more expensive Viewsonic, LG or Samsung LCD? it's very obvious to see the difference between cheap Dell TN panels vs those other branded LCDs. Thus, the stores can actually attract more buyers that way.

And quite honestly, if the shop does not have enough budget to do live comparison, they can always opt for large printouts of Magazines...

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In the good old days, those boring shops like Compusonic, Ztronic, etc fell because younger/newer shops uses these techniques to attract people. But unfortunately, right after the economical crisis, most of the shops themself turned kinda dull. You don't get a chance to poke around the shop enjoying 3D mark demos anymore.

Well, I'm out of the PC sales business a long time already. So I might be wrong in my opinion above... Perhaps it's just market demand that forces the shops to just sell stuff normally and not make things exiting or fun anymore.

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And just last week, I saw the TT Mozart at Pristine. at first I got a little exited and walked nearer to have a look... Mana tahu they just setup the PC using an RM800 casing just to surf net doh.gif

The lady there was helpful in trying to answer what I asked... But still, that's all she did. She could have took the remote control and show off the capability of the Mozart. At least if I walked away, it might have attracted other passers by...
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Good pointed observations only an insider can make!

End of the day it is all dollars and cents. The IT hardware biz is a very RED OCEAN biz with razor-thin margins. In the past, it wasn't like this. Now, it is the parasites that only do well in this biz.

Without PC hardware there will be no Microsoft! No Computer Associates, no Red Hat, no Google, no You-Tube, etc, etc.

After the software guys, it is the pirate CDs that make all the money be it application software or dvd movies. Now it is the PC accessory guys who are making the bucks.

Imagine our petrol kiosks with a gross margin of 12% already threatening to close shop at 10 p.m. every nite and reopen at 7 in the morning daily! The local PC dealer is making even less profits; usually a single digit gross margin, how are they to do well?

Marketing is an additional cost that few local PC shops can afford.

Moreover, the enthusiasts market is a pretty small niche compared to the mainstream. Will they focus on the enthusiats when the margins are nothing to shout about?
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Yes. In fact, I know some models in Dell and HP are selling below their cost price. Which is already very low. All those in order just to capture market share.

In the smaller shops, they couldn't afford to do that. Like you said, margin is already very thin...

However, from what I observed, most of the shops already have really high end products all lined up on their shelves and cabinets... They are all in boxes... Not in display biggrin.gif

Just like if you walked by a CD/DVD shop and that shop is not playing anything. You'll just walk by and maybe just browse around for awhile with little interest.

But if that shop has a TV playing their latest movie, more people will stick around just to enjoy and browse longer. Some people might just directly buy the show or music which is being displayed.

Another example would be like this:

If a shop selling clothes just get their stock and put them on the shelves and baskets, less people will be interested.

If the shop only takes 1 set of clothing and put it on their display window on their mannequins, then some people will walk by and think.... Hey! That look cool! I want to look like that!, so therefore, they would probably save a little longer, and spend a little more to buy that clothe instead of his original plan of buying off something from Tesco. laugh.gif

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Yes. In fact, I know some models in Dell and HP are selling below their cost price. Which is already very low. All those in order just to capture market share.

In the smaller shops, they couldn't afford to do that. Like you said, margin is already very thin...

However, from what I observed, most of the shops already have really high end products all lined up on their shelves and cabinets... They are all in boxes... Not in display biggrin.gif

Just like if you walked by a CD/DVD shop and that shop is not playing anything. You'll just walk by and maybe just browse around for awhile with little interest.

But if that shop has a TV playing their latest movie, more people will stick around just to enjoy and browse longer. Some people might just directly buy the show or music which is being displayed.

Another example would be like this:

If a shop selling clothes just get their stock and put them on the shelves and baskets, less people will be interested.

If the shop only takes 1 set of clothing and put it on their display window on their mannequins, then some people will walk by and think.... Hey! That look cool! I want to look like that!, so therefore, they would probably save a little longer, and spend a little more to buy that clothe instead of his original plan of buying off something from Tesco. laugh.gif
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Would you as a customer buy a 'used' display unit and pay the same price as a new unit? How many notebook shops have to sell their display units cheaper?

Can the shops afford to absorb the discounts given for display items? Remember, red ocean.
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Why not? I'd buy it if the display was well maintained and working fine.
In fact, I wouldn't even know if the "new" stuff I buy is used or not.

I don't know if shops really can absorb the cost of discounts to sell display units or not. But if it does help capture more sales and market share, wouldn't it be worth it?

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Kinda reminds me of the chicken or egg story of a Char Kuih Teow Seller...

His business was good and he's always very very busy. When asked why he didn't want to hire a maid to help him out. His reply was "Aiyo, already so busy where got time to find maid?" Well, he IS busy because he didn't have a maid...

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Small tiny little things does help a lot in business. A simple smile, extra gestures, better arrangements in shops, attractions, and in my latest experience, even a phone number on your receipt can help a lot...

Precess has just lost my confidence in them. I couldn't communicate with them when I have a faulty product by phone. And that made very difficult for me to even deal with them. So do you think I'll go back there again? Even if they have items that other shops don't have?

So I've been just giving my 2 cents...
I'm not some marketing expert... just my observations. biggrin.gif

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Why not? I'd buy it if the display was well maintained and working fine.
In fact, I wouldn't even know if the "new" stuff I buy is used or not.
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Too bad, you belong to the minority.

Infact, the display unit is the best unit to buy as it is guaranteed to work. But aesthetics do mean a lot to the customer.

In this forum, the two most common themes have been PRICE and SERVICE.

Forumers are always checking out the best prices and many have to deal with unpleasant experiences. I am afraid, both Good Price and Good Service do not come together in a package. It is one or the other; even at lowyat or anywhere else on this planet.

So one should not go for the ideal combination and instead go for the next best choice. In Penang, the choice is limited and Skygate stands out. At Prai, it is SS Computer and at Sg Petani, it is MiniComp.
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yesterday i been to autocity, i found that there is one shop there going to open as it mall....is the biggest in penang it stated there.. probably going to be like lowyat plaza...
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When it going to open ?? I will need to travel there to have a see ...

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hi bro,honestly speaking,we cant find any good hardwares in penang,most of my hardware i got from outside penang sometime i imported them.

fyi,pcdepot,dont buy from them,i got 2 friends working inside,ask me not to buy from them.

most of the ram and some mobo,they got it from factory which is RMA-ed and sell as new doh.gif

i mean,the mobo actually die and for 1-to-1 exchange,then the factory repait the spoilt one,after that,pcdepot will get from them.

dont buy from them. nod.gif
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I bought 2 RAM (Kingston 1GB) from them already !! shocking.gif shocking.gif

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 24 2007, 06:31 PM)
hi bro,honestly speaking,we cant find any good hardwares in penang,most of my hardware i got from outside penang sometime i imported them.

fyi,pcdepot,dont buy from them,i got 2 friends working inside,ask me not to buy from them.

most of the ram and some mobo,they got it from factory which is RMA-ed and sell as new doh.gif

i mean,the mobo actually die and for 1-to-1 exchange,then the factory repait the spoilt one,after that,pcdepot will get from them.

dont buy from them. nod.gif
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I bought 2 RAM (Kingston 1GB) from them already !! shocking.gif shocking.gif

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I bought 2 RAM (Kingston 1GB) from them already !! shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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So far I bought my RAM from them also... No problem...
Besides, it comes with lifetime warranty.

Anyone got any good suggestions which casing is good for below RM200?
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Cooler Master Centurion 5, or maybe consider top up a little and get the Lian Li PC-7S for RM238(ATE Price).
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So far I bought my RAM from them also... No problem...
Besides, it comes with lifetime warranty.

Anyone got any good suggestions which casing is good for below RM200?
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go for CM Elite 330/331. around rm120-125. Without PSu
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i'll go for CMC5,solid built,and it worth the price,around rm170 like that in penang.
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Cooler Master Centurion 5, or maybe consider top up a little and get the Lian Li PC-7S for RM238(ATE Price).
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 8 2007, 02:56 PM)
go for CM Elite 330/331. around rm120-125. Without PSu
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If you plan to go for the CMs, get the Centurion 5.
IMHO, the Elite is not really that worth. It's cheaper, but also smaller.
The CM5 is just nice as a mid tower, ample space even cable management is a pain in the ass if u have a big PSU, but i do not see the Elite anywhere better than the C5 in this aspect. In terms of airflow, both should be almost the same but get rid of the front intakes and change the pathetic 80mm to some more powerful 80mms.
I'm not sure if the elite which is priced at 125-130 comes with sidepanel, but the C5 comes with transparent side panels.

Overall, a pretty decent casing considering the price you pay for it.

What happen to ur current casing, why suddenly looking for new casing.
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If you plan to go for the CMs, get the Centurion 5.
IMHO, the Elite is not really that worth. It's cheaper, but also smaller.
The CM5 is just nice as a mid tower, ample space even cable management is a pain in the ass if u have a big PSU, but i do not see the Elite anywhere better than the C5 in this aspect. In terms of airflow, both should be almost the same but get rid of the front intakes and change the pathetic 80mm to some more powerful 80mms.
I'm not sure if the elite which is priced at 125-130 comes with sidepanel, but the C5 comes with transparent side panels.

Overall, a pretty decent casing considering the price you pay for it.

What happen to ur current casing, why suddenly looking for new casing.
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My Old casing? I'm using it now.

But I got another system laying around without a casing and monitor.
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Going to get a casing first then can share monitor for the time being. 1 use VGA 1 use DVI. tongue.gif
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Oh...tot you gonna sell off the AXP.
Hmm, get a C5 for it then, the side panels will show quite a nice view...(seeing the 7800gs AGP drool.gif)
So now u're using your old casing on the new setup which the proc you got from me rite?
So how is everything, any overclocking tries?
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only new generation of C5 got side transparent windows la right?

anyway,what is the highest end of AGP?

7800GS?
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Oh...tot you gonna sell off the AXP.
Hmm, get a C5 for it then, the side panels will show quite a nice view...(seeing the 7800gs AGP drool.gif)
So now u're using your old casing on the new setup which the proc you got from me rite?
So how is everything, any overclocking tries?
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I decided not to sell. Later end up too many spare parts which I have to keep pulak.
The new system is the CPU you sold me lo. Didn't over clock it yet. Nice CPU. But new computer don't have nice 3D card yet. cry.gif

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Aug 11 2007, 09:14 AM)
only new generation of C5 got side transparent windows la right?

anyway,what is the highest end of AGP?

7800GS?
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The "Keakhiran tertinggi" of "Kad AGP" is 7900GS if I'm not "Tersalah"... whistling.gif
But I love my 7800GS wub.gif

I'm going to look around Jack's shop to see if there's any suitable casing for me or not.
Centurion 5 will be my last choice actually. Because I don't like 80mm fans. Especially only 1 80mm fan blowing my HDD.
I might still go for Lian Li. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(n305er @ Aug 11 2007, 10:12 AM)
I decided not to sell. Later end up too many spare parts which I have to keep pulak.
The new system is the CPU you sold me lo. Didn't over clock it yet. Nice CPU. But new computer don't have nice 3D card yet. cry.gif
The "Keakhiran tertinggi" of "Kad AGP" is 7900GS if I'm not "Tersalah"... whistling.gif
But I love my 7800GS wub.gif

I'm going to look around Jack's shop to see if there's any suitable casing for me or not.
Centurion 5 will be my last choice actually. Because I don't like 80mm fans. Especially only 1 80mm fan blowing my HDD.
I might still go for Lian Li. biggrin.gif
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Lian-Li coming to Precess soon ... be patient.
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Any someone please update this http://www.pc1stop.net/ price list.
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good,beside Advancetech,Precess would be the second shop that carry ah Lian in penang.
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I wanna to ask Penang can get brisby onot?
the pristine have sell x2 3600 2x512k. this is brisby right?

and do brisby have x2 4000 version??

coz i sell both different not much~
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noob question here, where is this Precess n Advancetech shop?
when do they bring in lian li casing? need to save money then....
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noob question here, where is this Precess n Advancetech shop?
when do they bring in lian li casing? need to save money then....
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BTW, Advancetech doesn't really Carry much Lian Li around. Only 1 model. The rest you have to order.
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yes,have to order for the rest of ah lian casing.

as for brissy,i think nowadays they selling brissy since windsy already discontinue liao.
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Here you go:
http://my.pagenation.com/pen/One-stop%20Mi...0.305_5.433.map
Most of the IT shops are on the 5th floor IIRC.

Added on August 13, 2007, 9:55 am i am so scared to shop at computer shop alone. since im a newbie myself .gd info

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Here you go:
http://my.pagenation.com/pen/One-stop%20Mi...0.305_5.433.map
Most of the IT shops are on the 5th floor IIRC.

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The link is broken...
By the way, One Stop's PC shop is not much. BJ also not much. But the most are still gathered there at BJ.
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I saw PCdepot sell AM2 AMDx2 4000+ with 1Mx2 L2

is it 512K X2 or 1MB x2 for 4000+??
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It's 1mb X2 for 4000+.

The 3800+X2 and 4000+X2 Windsors run on the same speed. 2Ghz, the difference is the cache size. The 3800+ has 512kb X2 while the 4000+ has 1mb x2.
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It's 1mb X2 for 4000+.

The 3800+X2 and 4000+X2 Windsors run on the same speed. 2Ghz, the difference is the cache size. The 3800+ has 512kb X2 while the 4000+ has 1mb x2.
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I saw PCdepot sell AM2 AMDx2 4000+ with 1Mx2 L2

is it 512K X2 or 1MB x2 for 4000+??
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Jack, are you talking about the 65nm 2.1Ghz models?

The older models, both the 65w and 89w comes with 1Mb x2 and operates at 2Ghz speed. Only the 2.1GHz 65nm procs have 512kb X2 cache.
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Jack, are you talking about the 65nm 2.1Ghz models?

The older models, both the 65w and 89w comes with 1Mb x2 and operates at 2Ghz speed. Only the 2.1GHz 65nm procs have 512kb X2 cache.
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Bro, Already PMed you.

Quite tempting offer you have there...thumbup.gif
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Jack, are you talking about the 65nm 2.1Ghz models?

The older models, both the 65w and 89w comes with 1Mb x2 and operates at 2Ghz speed. Only the 2.1GHz 65nm procs have 512kb X2 cache.
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oh. thats mean 4000+ got 2 model, one is 1MB X 2(2GHZ), another type is 512K X2(2.1GHZ) ??
which 1 is better?
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There are 2 cores for 4000+ X2.

The first is the Windsor, produced under 90nm SOI technology.
There are 2 versions of Windsor, the 89w normal version and the 65w Energy Efficient version. Both chips run on identical specificaitons except for power consumption. Both chips run on 2Ghz, and has 2x1mb L2 Cache.

The 2nd, is the later generation. The core will be Brisbane...
Brisbanes are produced under 65nm SOI technology. As we all know, Brisbanes do overclock better than normal Windsors on average (exception for the F3 Windsors). The Brisbane 4000+ X2 runs on 2.1Ghz and has 512kb X2 L2 Cache. The Brisbanes should have no problem doing +- 3Ghz at full overclock. But there were reports from Tomshardware(IIRC) stating that the Brisbane actually losses out to Windsors at the identical clock speed as Windsors has a shorter Cache latency when compared to the Brisbanes which have a longer Cache latency.

Nowdays i guess most of the 4000+ on the market should be the Brisbane 2.1Ghz. It's up to you to decide which to get if you're really keen on getting one.

KC, i'm still on my old Venice 3000+. No money to go for Intel, maybe wait till Phenom then only decide whether to jump over to the Darkside. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Aug 13 2007, 07:11 PM)
There are 2 cores for 4000+ X2.

The first is the Windsor, produced under 90nm SOI technology.
There are 2 versions of Windsor, the 89w normal version and the 65w Energy Efficient version. Both chips run on identical specificaitons except for power consumption. Both chips run on 2Ghz, and has 2x1mb L2 Cache.

The 2nd, is the later generation. The core will be Brisbane...
Brisbanes are produced under 65nm SOI technology. As we all know, Brisbanes do overclock better than normal Windsors on average (exception for the F3 Windsors). The Brisbane 4000+ X2 runs on 2.1Ghz and has 512kb X2 L2 Cache. The Brisbanes should have no problem doing +- 3Ghz at full overclock. But there were reports from Tomshardware(IIRC) stating that the Brisbane actually losses out to Windsors at the identical clock speed as Windsors has a shorter Cache latency when compared to the Brisbanes which have a longer Cache latency.

Nowdays i guess most of the 4000+ on the market should be the Brisbane 2.1Ghz. It's up to you to decide which to get if you're really keen on getting one.

KC, i'm still on my old Venice 3000+. No money to go for Intel, maybe wait till Phenom then only decide whether to jump over to the Darkside. laugh.gif
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Thanks for your explanation.

X2 4000+ is only RM235 now. + a SLI motherboard, i think it need about RM6XX..
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No expert lar, just that earlier on i was doing Bulks on AM2 mar, so have to know the stuff i'm selling lar.
And also google helps a lot in providing and confirming those info.

QUOTE(darnell @ Aug 13 2007, 09:54 PM)
Thanks for your explanation.

X2 4000+ is only RM235 now. + a SLI motherboard, i think it need about RM6XX..
a nice budget platform..  smile.gif
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You're welcomed.
Price for processors had really dropped drastically recently.
Btw, do you really need an SLI setup, if not why do you need to spend the extra on an SLI mobo?
I've lost track of the new AM2 mobos, haven't been checking on them for quite sometime since i stopped my bulks.
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cool info...planning to get new setup for my new rig but stopped by my financial..interested to get intel C2D but the price seems still unaffordable for me..never tried AMD before ar even explored about it..now seems that AMD price are affordable for their dual-core proc..

But my question here..i have about RM1000 to spend on proc, mobo and GC..planning to get Powercolour 8600GT UE(cheapest but very good peformance)..and others..cant decide yet..

INTEL or AMD..which one???for my budget here..the best and value for my money..need help
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QUOTE(verz84 @ Aug 16 2007, 01:24 PM)
cool info...planning to get new setup for my new rig but stopped by my financial..interested to get intel C2D but the price seems still unaffordable for me..never tried AMD before ar even explored about it..now seems that AMD price are affordable for their dual-core proc..

But my question here..i have about RM1000 to spend on proc, mobo and GC..planning to get Powercolour 8600GT UE(cheapest but very good peformance)..and others..cant decide yet..

INTEL or AMD..which one???for my budget here..the best and value for my money..need help
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If RM1000 for proc, mobo and GC only , then sure enough, can get a AMDX2 + 690G motherboard.

But if your budget is RM1000 including a set of CPU(with 8600GT), then I think the busget is quite tight. smile.gif

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No expert lar, just that earlier on i was doing Bulks on AM2 mar, so have to know the stuff i'm selling lar.
And also google helps a lot in providing and confirming those info.
You're welcomed.
Price for processors had really dropped drastically recently.
Btw, do you really need an SLI setup, if not why do you need to spend the extra on an SLI mobo?
I've lost track of the new AM2 mobos, haven't been checking on them for quite sometime since i stopped my bulks.
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It is because I bought a 6600GT and successful to softmod it to Quadro FX 540. blush.gif

Plan to buy one more to softmod it again, dont know can try to run SLI or not.. blink.gif

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nope..the RM1000 is juz for Proc,mobo and GC..Gc already cost like RM500..so only left RM500 for proc and mobo..any suggestion???
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can make it lor..500 for 86gt nice liao..500 u can opt for x2 4000+ soemthing like dat for 200++ and get a good mobo for 300++..might be abit more off ur budget but can make it lo

if u wana go for intel abit hard since mobo alone gona take a big chunk of ur budget
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nope..the RM1000 is juz for Proc,mobo and GC..Gc already cost like RM500..so only left RM500 for proc and mobo..any suggestion???
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Then I think RM 500 still enough for you to take a AMD x2 4000+ and 690G motherboard.

If u want intel , I think the budget is quite tight, as Intel motherboard is quite expensive.. smile.gif

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bro verz

can make it lor..500 for 86gt nice liao..500 u can opt for x2 4000+ soemthing like dat for 200++ and get a good mobo for 300++..might be abit more off ur budget but can make it lo

if u wana go for intel abit hard since mobo alone gona take a big chunk of ur budget
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yaya.. agree with power slide suggestion.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(verz84 @ Aug 16 2007, 01:44 PM)
nope..the RM1000 is juz for Proc,mobo and GC..Gc already cost like RM500..so only left RM500 for proc and mobo..any suggestion???
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lol... AMD x2 4000+ RM231 & Biostar TA690G RM295 = RM526... still got budget to buy 8600GT for gaming performance or 2600Pro or XT DDR3 for excellent image quality & HD Video Playback...

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Anyone recommend any good suppliers for pc parts.. in Penang ?I'm selling PC's on a part time basis (mostly factory plp). Used to take from Keypoint (FxcK shop) CMS (low end stuff), PITH (Prai-difficult to rma/no amd cpus), Swisspac (lousy services esp ordering & high price...)..thks.. just discovered Mixtech ...

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So now in Penang we have a group of PC enthusiasts trying to team up for the furtherance of their interests. Noble intentions I must agree. But will it bear fruit?

The enthusiast market is relatively small in Malaysia and so much smaller in Penang. If it is that meaningful Overclocker's Paradise would not have folded at lowyat! There is regularly some business but it is not sufficient enough to support an on-going operation.

In bad times, the consumer's purchasing power is further eroded. Most 'nice-to-have' purchases have been postponed in favour of day-to-day necessities. So will such a market flourish in Penang?
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So now in Penang we have a group of PC enthusiasts trying to team up for the furtherance of their interests.  Noble intentions I must agree.  But will it bear fruit?

The enthusiast market is relatively small in Malaysia and so much smaller in Penang.  If it is that meaningful Overclocker's Paradise would not have folded at lowyat!  There is regularly some business but it is not sufficient enough to support an on-going operation. 

In bad times, the consumer's purchasing power is further eroded.  Most 'nice-to-have' purchases have been postponed in favour of day-to-day necessities.  So will such a market flourish in Penang?
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I don't think those gatherings and activities are organized for "Noble" purposes. Let's just say it's for fun and sharing. smile.gif

It's just hope to keep the market going for those who are interested. Not to make the market grow. If it does grow, then the better. smile.gif
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I don't think those gatherings and activities are organized for "Noble" purposes. Let's just say it's for fun and sharing. smile.gif

It's just hope to keep the market going for those who are interested. Not to make the market grow. If it does grow, then the better. smile.gif
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The PC biz is undergoing a 'consolidation stage' right now and in Penang it had just claimed another victim, IT Bargain Zone at Prangin Mall. The shop just closed this week.

In the coming months, there will be fewer PC shops remaining on the island. This year it has taken its toll with so many shops closing; those at 1-Stop and elsewhere.

Penang has too many malls with a congregation of PC dealers. In bad times, as at the present moment, there are simply too many around going after a dwindling market. There is talk that several shops at the newly opened Queensbay will also fold. It will take a brave soul to soldier on.

Unless all the PC dealers can gather together in one mall, there will be little they can do to prevent further financial bleeding on their part.
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The PC biz is undergoing a 'consolidation stage' right now and in Penang it had just claimed another victim, IT Bargain Zone at Prangin Mall.  The shop just closed this week. 

In the coming months, there will be fewer PC shops remaining on the island.  This year it has taken its toll with so many shops closing; those at 1-Stop and elsewhere.

Penang has too many malls with a congregation of PC dealers.  In bad times, as at the present moment, there are simply too many around going after a dwindling market.  There is talk that several shops at the newly opened Queensbay will also fold.  It will take a brave soul to soldier on.

Unless all the PC dealers can gather together in one mall, there will be little they can do to prevent further financial bleeding on their part.
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Agree with what u had say,bro...But not the last sentence...It's good for consumer if PC dealers to gather together in one mall coz can do many surveys but it's not good for PC dealer as competition will grow become more competitive... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Agree with what u had say,bro...But not the last sentence...It's good for consumer if PC dealers to gather together in one mall coz can do many surveys but it's not good for PC dealer as competition will grow become more competitive... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Look at the lowyat and imbi example. There is sufficient biz there for almost everyone. Look elsewhere at Sunway IT, the Curve, Mines and even the recently opened PJ Digital Mall. Most of the players there are struggling.

Singapore went through our experience earlier. In Singapore there are only 2 malls with more PC shops operating; at Sim Lim Square and at Funan. Elsewhere, at the many malls all over the island, one literally have to search hard for a PC shop. I was at Ang Mo Kio, Hougang and Tampines. Very difficult to find a computer shop there. And compared to Penang, Singapore is much much bigger in terms of population numbers and purchasing power. Yet, they do not have so many computer dealers outside Sim Lim and Funan!
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u were rite..most people will juz go to one mall to compare and get the best bargain..if there's too many places of this pc spot..then..hard for the people to get to these scattered places..for me..better business in BJC since most established pc shops are strong there..easy for people to get there..compare prices and get the best bargain..juz like Lowyat Plaza..One stop for tech products..

So why not turn BJC like Lowyat???Since there are still many unoccupied shops there.Those who wanna open pc shops should think about opening there..Maybe can be an advantage for nothern region..no need to go to KL..

Good for people and also for those dealers.. thumbup.gif

By gathering in one mall may get many competitions..but which one will u as a dealer will prefer?Getting sales everyday because the percentage for customers or consumers to come to the mall are higher or juz a 2 or 3 sales in 2 or 3 days period since people wont come to the mall because they will go to other place..?? nod.gif

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What had contributed to this sorry state of affairs for the PC retailing biz in Malaysia in general and in Penang in particular?

Four main parties are culpable.

One, the mall owners and their management. Too many malls have sprouted up over the years and new ones are being added to the pipeline. Soon, in Penang, you will have Penang Times Square. Mall owners and management will be hard pressed to find tenants for their malls. As usual, the lower floors will have no shortage of prospective tenants. It is the upper floors that are left wanting. So all malls will want to have their own IT floor or section. This brought about an explosion of the number of PC retailers and dealers on the island.

Two, the PC component principals and their distributors and sub-distributors. This game is a game of numbers. Each year, the targets are raised in search for more revenues. And as average selling prices become lower and lower the urgency to sell more becomes a main priority. 'Selling to' gets more priority over 'selling through'. Often the channel is loaded with unsold inventory. But the pressure to push more is not abating but rather rising with each impending quarter close. As an example, HP recently lauched a new range of inkjet printers for the Aug PC Fair. Barely a month later, one model had seen its price dropped by RM20 (or about 8%)! And there is no price protection from HP. So PC dealers are left holding any unsold inventory at their own expense. 'Selling to' takes precedence over 'selling through'.

Three, most PC retailers are less than 3-5 years in operation. Many have started their biz after failing to find suitable jobs or have started out on their own after working for another PC dealer. There is no shortage of candidates to open and manage PC dealerships. No doubt in no small way assisted by the ready credit available to them via the supply chain. As more PC shops open, competition gets tougher and many resort to price discounting to grab any biz. And as the majority of these new shops tend to have very young bosses without much schooling in biz management and financial planning, most of their ventures eventually fail; but not before creating much hardship for the other older established shops around. It is not by accident that the older shops like Z'tronic, Racess Tech, PNP Computers, etc are no longer around. Those that have not closed, like ICS and Mega are left struggling.

Four, the consumers. Being younger and more computer literate, the consumers are the endusers. In the past, the parents decide but today, it is the enduser himself who decide what to buy. This is where the problem starts. Peer pressure results in the young enduser squeezing the PC retailer for a good price for fear that their friends will laugh at them should they pay more for the same item than their friends. So it is like a competition to always get the best deal so that they can brag to their friends. This puts a lot of price pressure on the sellers and in time the weaker players give in to the customers. Soon, they become no longer viable and closes shop leaving their customers in the lurch.

So, when will it all end?

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Nowadays, the action is all over at Prai. On the island, most computer shops have changed into either accessories shop or dealing more with notebooks like Fosa Marketing at Prangin Mall and eSquare at Prangin, Bukit Jambul Complex and Sg Dua. Penang island is already saturated. Therefore, PC hardware dealers are few in number. Selection is limited and prices are far higher than those offered in Prai.

Over on the mainland, business is relatively good compared to BJC, Prangin Mall or 1-Stop. Especially at Prai. Three shops are hogging the limelight; PC Depot, SS Comp and Best Buys at Chai Leng Park. Both PC Depot and SS Comp are located at Prai Jaya 3, quite close to each other.

Choices at these 3 shops are more than what you can find over on the island. Each of them have a few hundred SKUs apiece. And the icing on the cake is of course their more competitive pricing. Especially at SS Comp; prices for harddisks, processors and ram are even cheaper than lowyat!

Check them out.

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Nowadays, the action is all over at Prai.  On the island, most computer shops have changed into either accessories shop or dealing more with notebooks like Fosa Marketing at Prangin Mall and eSquare at Prangin, Bukit Jambul Complex and Sg Dua.  Penang island is already saturated.  Therefore, PC hardware dealers are few in number.  Selection is limited and prices are far higher than those offered in Prai.

Over on the mainland, business is relatively good compared to BJC, Prangin Mall or 1-Stop.  Especially at Prai.  Three shops are hogging the limelight; PC Depot, SS Comp and Best Buys at Chai Leng Park.  Both PC Depot and SS Comp are located at Prai Jaya 3, quite close to each other.

Choices at these 3 shops are more than what you can find over on the island.  Each of them have a few hundred SKUs apiece.  And the icing on the cake is of course their more competitive pricing.  Especially at SS Comp; prices for harddisks, processors and ram are even cheaper than lowyat! 

Check them out.
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to compare price ss comp with PC depot..there had big gap between it...at ss comp like u said for hardisk,proc and ram really cheap...their price RM20-RM40 less then PC depot..for me their service also good...but not really know whether their goods very good...so far ok for me...
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to compare price ss comp with PC depot..there had big gap between it...at ss comp like u said for hardisk,proc and ram really cheap...their price RM20-RM40 less then PC depot..for me their service also good...but  not really know whether their goods very good...so far ok for me...
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Very easy to find out if the goods sold are genuine stuff. Firstly, it must be in retail box packing, especially for processors and rams. Harddisks must come in a sealed anti-static bag. The shop will cut open to affix their shop warranty sticker.

Secondly, all must come with standard manufacturer's warranty. Boxed Intel and AMD comes with standard 3 years warranty from the manufacturer. Rams come with 'lifetime' warranties. Harddisks from Samsung, Western Digital, Hitachi and Maxtor comes with 3 years warranty but Seagates comes with 5 years factory warranty.

All branded LCDs come with 3 years standard factory warranty too.

Shops can only sell genuine stuff at very competitive prices only if they buy a lot and from authorised distributors. Should they go through a middleman then they will not be able to buy cheaper.

They must also be able to keep their operating costs low so that they can survive on lower margins. When you walk into Starbucks you are also paying for the decor besides paying for that cup of coffee!
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i prefer to pay more for insurance,

cause hardware profit will not earn so much one.

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i prefer to pay more for insurance,

cause hardware profit will not earn so much one.

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Agreed, Some product offer 3 warranty, PC Depot onli offer 1 year warranty?? weird heh..
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cause they never know those item got 3 years warranty.
that's why my friend told me dont buy from them as they got the re-cond or used stuff and sell as new.

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Yeah, those hardware that comes with 3 years warranty PC Depot only provide 1 year warranty. Really weird.
But there is still so many people go and support him. This more weird  hmm.gif
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No time to go through all the 23 page la, but i'm very unhappy with the situation in Penang for PC shops.

So i'm going to Lowyat again this weekend and sapu all my pc hardware. GARHH!! Burning my plastic money again!!!

Actually, PC Depot uses quite a lot of obvious dirty marketing tactics but people are forgiving because their prices are cheap.

Swisspac really needs to lower their prices if they want to gain their competitive edge.

That's just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(ColeXE @ Sep 13 2007, 01:27 PM)
No time to go through all the 23 page la, but i'm very unhappy with the situation in Penang for PC shops.

So i'm going to Lowyat again this weekend and sapu all my pc hardware. GARHH!! Burning my plastic money again!!!

Actually, PC Depot uses quite a lot of obvious dirty marketing tactics but people are forgiving because their prices are cheap.

Swisspac really needs to lower their prices if they want to gain their competitive edge.

That's just my 2 cents.
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No no no... People are not forgiving just because their things are cheaper.
I believe a lot of people here knows when it is appropriate to spend more on a better quality item and better service rather then be served by a bunch of gangster looking pushers.
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lolz i help spaming too~~

i wanan find KVR FP-Y5 DDR2 667 1gb at penang~~

anyone going any pc shop around this few day~~

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u guys got go queensbay mall? there is a new shop there call anermax or something LOL

got display some gigabyte mobo and some vga card..

now only i remember this shop to post here

aso which shop got CM cosmos 1000 on display?
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 17 2007, 06:59 PM)
u guys got go queensbay mall? there is a new shop there call anermax or something LOL

got display some gigabyte mobo and some vga card..

now only i remember this shop to post here

aso which shop got CM cosmos 1000 on display?
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wat is CM cosmos 1000?
casing?
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new coolermaster cosmos 1000 casing

wana touch touch but dowan buy laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 17 2007, 09:06 PM)
yaya

new coolermaster cosmos 1000 casing

wana touch touch but dowan buy  laugh.gif
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LOL, just touch touch only tongue.gif
btw, i saw one shop selling stacker 830 nvidia edition at prangin mall last saturday,
just saw it, but didnt go to ask the price tongue.gif
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yalaa..im poor wer got money buy..so wana molest abit enough d lor tongue.gif

stacker 830 nvidia edition..hmm not bad from the shop.. laugh.gif
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I seen b4 d, there the prices quite expensive.
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because it's nVidia edition,anyway,dont like new stacker,if buy stacker i'll just buy ah lian or thermaltake one,better quality.

i know powerslide will go for soldam brows.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Sep 18 2007, 06:52 AM)
because it's nVidia edition,anyway,dont like new stacker,if buy stacker i'll just buy ah lian or thermaltake one,better quality.

i know powerslide will go for soldam brows.gif
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soldam??need to order straight from japan arr?? rclxms.gif
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soldam??need to order straight from japan arr?? rclxms.gif
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Soldam, You should be able to find them in Singapore if i've not mistaken.
Only if we have those in Malaysia.

Powerslide, u confirm the shop's name is Anermax? (Sounds damn gay)
This is what we Malaysians do best, when starting a computer business, also wanna ciplak other's trademark.
I think we'll soon see some shops bearing names such as Antek, Lian Lee, Silverbatu... sweat.gif

Gotta go see the Cosmos casing d...hehe, wanna compare with my coming soon Ah Lian...
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Soldam, You should be able to find them in Singapore if i've not mistaken.
Only if we have those in Malaysia.

Powerslide, u confirm the shop's name is Anermax? (Sounds damn gay)
This is what we Malaysians do best, when starting a computer business, also wanna ciplak other's trademark.
I think we'll soon see some shops bearing names such as Antek, Lian Lee, Silverbatu... sweat.gif

Gotta go see the Cosmos casing d...hehe, wanna compare with my coming soon Ah Lian...
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if see that name sure dunwan go there...already know ciplak only...
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ya i know that shop,stupid shop,me standing there looking for mobo for more than 10 minutes,the guy sit at the counter there and play psp. laugh.gif
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so this shop another lousy laa..avoid avoid..if customer having a look and dun even bother to ask hopeless liao laa

soldam? walao eh..in my dream laa..but very chio leh..

meh noh u buy wat ah lian? brows.gif u see anywer got cosmos tell me..i aso wana have a look biggrin.gif
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What is your opinion on PC Depot? Worthwhile buying? Good and bad points?
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what about Makson Computers in Sg Dua penang?
are they good?

i heard ppl say the prices there r low.
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What is your opinion on PC Depot? Worthwhile buying? Good and bad points?
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for some particular small item like pendrive or printer ink,
it is still good to buy at there,
but the important part of computer,
it is not sugested to get one at there...
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what about Makson Computers in Sg Dua penang?
are they good?

i heard ppl say the prices there r low.
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lol Markson is the good fren of Keypoint, think twice before u buy from them. If buy set sometimes see third party heatsink in ur CPU instead giving u stock fan that weird. Well Anermax sound like Analmax:P.

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i suggest dun even go to pcdept buy anything..support unker silence laugh.gif cheap aso i wont go buy anything from them whistling.gif

analmax is a good name tongue.gif
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well,if u buy those cheapo accessories thinggy,any shop also ok la,depend who is cheaper,but when i buy hardware (not accessories la) i'll go for one shop only or i import by myself.

mostly i'll ask anker diam diam for help first before i import them,cause i like rare thing that canot be found in malaysia sometime.

anyway,Powerslide,the Analmax selling a lot of cheapo casing and speaker,the guy is suck,play psp also no wan to serve me,if boss hire the employee like this sure rugi a lot.

i never think wan to change my casing,i love my stacker so much,some more legendary stacker brows.gif right powerslide?

Meh Noh wanna change to cosmo ah?
for me the cosmos looks "round round" one,quite U.G.L.Y. for me,cannot stim when looking at it.

around kui lui the price?

and CM come out one stupid hsf again the cooler master sphere.

Sphere

dont forget that the mars is a failure hsf,even worse than stock hsf,i wonder this can perform better?

and guys,i'm switching my stacker to BTX !!!

tangan gatal liao,wanna try btx brows.gif

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What is your opinion on PC Depot? Worthwhile buying? Good and bad points?
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PC Depot is okay if you're only there to buy some accessories.

QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 18 2007, 09:32 PM)
what about Makson Computers in Sg Dua penang?
are they good?

i heard ppl say the prices there r low.
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Makson sucks. Full Stop.

Even taking a look at the things in any makson shop is a total waste of time and makes any person who walks in there an idiot. At least when PC depot sells cheap and low quality stuff, they try to gain customer satisfaction by offering a good image and a standard system for the customer to interact with the company. Makson (And keypoint) on the other hand only wants your money and then screw you aside after they sell you overpriced garbage.
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PC Depot is okay if you're only there to buy some accessories.
Makson sucks. Full Stop.

Even taking a look at the things in any makson shop is a total waste of time and makes any person who walks in there an idiot. At least when PC depot sells cheap and low quality stuff, they try to gain customer satisfaction by offering a good image and a standard system for the customer to interact with the company. Makson (And keypoint) on the other hand only wants your money and then screw you aside after they sell you overpriced garbage.
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lucky u told me
i tot makson is good..doing well... boss driving merc

any good computer shop u recommend in penang?
or shall i buy dell?
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QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 19 2007, 10:28 AM)
lucky u told me
i tot makson is good..doing well... boss driving merc

any good computer shop u recommend in penang?
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PC Depot for sure!! yawn.gif
Can get harga kilang lorr..coz ada kilang kat dalam kedai dia laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 19 2007, 10:28 AM)
lucky u told me
i tot makson is good..doing well... boss driving merc

any good computer shop u recommend in penang?
or shall i buy dell?
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yes la..makson not good enough,,but i like funny specky guy there,,, laugh.gif darren mojo jojo tongue.gif

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Sep 19 2007, 10:43 AM)
PC Depot for sure!! yawn.gif
Can get harga kilang lorr..coz ada kilang kat dalam kedai dia laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Harga Kilang ?? Tipu punya kilang kot.
PC Depot - Lousiest, Serviceless, Stockless !!
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Also another shop to avoid is Trinity Distribution, they are so called "Abit Distrbutor" . 2 years ago bought a motherboard from them , RMA 1 board takes 6 mths then just recently bought IB9 for my friend, after 3 mths onboard sound stop working, RMA 2.5 mths liao still didnt come back.

Wont buy from them ever again.
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Sim Technology oso syok ooo home of fan biggrin.gif
i own my tri blade fan from there..laju ooo.like chek sin kei!!
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QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 19 2007, 11:28 AM)
lucky u told me
i tot makson is good..doing well... boss driving merc

any good computer shop u recommend in penang?
or shall i buy dell?
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Owh Dell boring yawn.gif . Quality Casing Nice Monitor but OEM parts inside... ACE prangin NAN YANG oso got sell Stacker..

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bro zeus,if not mistaken,nanyang is authorise disto for CM and Razer,he has their full range products,but i dont like the person who service there,dont know much about pc stuff,i ask them thing they canot answer.
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Sep 19 2007, 02:26 PM)
Sim Technology oso syok ooo home of fan biggrin.gif
i own my tri blade fan from there..laju ooo.like chek sin kei!!
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which tri blade???delta one???i got one from allgap...very nice fan there...so powerfull...attach it at my noctua...
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which tri blade???delta one???i got one from allgap...very nice fan there...so powerfull...attach it at my noctua...
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yup..delta..fuh..i need to mod it wif fan speed controller lor...very fast!sound like airwolf lor...
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yup..delta..fuh..i need to mod it wif fan speed controller lor...very fast!sound like airwolf lor...
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me got fan controller already..no need mod it..coz allngap already mod it...just use half speed only..if not sure like airwolf...how much u buy??
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Sep 19 2007, 07:03 PM)
me got fan controller already..no need mod it..coz allngap already mod it...just use half speed only..if not sure like airwolf...how much u buy??
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forgotten lor bro..almost 2 years dah..rm2+ something lor i guess. hmm.gif
now need to buy the controller.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Sep 19 2007, 06:28 PM)
bro zeus,if not mistaken,nanyang is authorise disto for CM and Razer,he has their full range products,but i dont like the person who service there,dont know much about pc stuff,i ask them thing they canot answer.
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Haiz casing no need explainations d, some how of their PSU, casing & acessories price offered are much cheaper than GZ. Yup this i know their main office is NC Comp at Menara Banana. only Graphic Cards & LCDs is expensive.
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QUOTE(HangKasturi @ Sep 19 2007, 11:45 AM)
Harga Kilang ?? Tipu punya kilang kot.
PC Depot - Lousiest, Serviceless, Stockless !!
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better change their name lor..pc cheepot or pc teapot..huhu tongue.gif
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