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cschun86
post Nov 21 2007, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Nov 21 2007, 09:28 PM)
subzero???
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post Nov 21 2007, 10:11 PM

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post Nov 21 2007, 10:20 PM

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Dear penang pc enthusiast,
my 7 years old crt is showing ailing sign. i need to gave it cpr, heart massage before it can project nething green electron gun seem needed to warm up (meaning i need to switch n wait for few minutes) n in da mean time suffer the screen in reddish color before green beam is up n everythin is back to original color.
wat should i replace it with?
stick with crt monitor (since im into digital painting) or just get normal lcd n deal with slight loss in color quality? (or does it matter neway?)
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post Nov 21 2007, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Nov 21 2007, 09:28 PM)
subzero???
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its rainingzero FTW~
cooling below 0'c.... brows.gif
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post Nov 21 2007, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Nov 21 2007, 10:20 PM)
Dear penang pc enthusiast,
my 7 years old crt is showing ailing sign. i need to gave it cpr, heart massage before it can project nething green electron gun seem needed to warm up (meaning i need to switch n wait for few minutes) n in da mean time suffer the screen in reddish color before green beam is up n everythin is back to original color.
wat should i replace it with?
stick with crt monitor (since im into digital painting) or just get normal lcd n deal with slight loss in color quality? (or does it matter neway?)
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if u require high precision of the colour,
still suggest u to get an CRT monitor,
but now also kinda hard to find CRT monitor,
mostly have to back to back order,
or find those workstation monitor...

hmm, actually not a slight loss if u planning to get LCD that below 22"
below 22" mostly are using TN panel where the colour is sucks among all,
for better suggestion if u wana go for LCD,
u can go to hardware>widescreen thread~
more ppl can explain better than me at there smile.gif


Added on November 21, 2007, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(rainingzero @ Nov 21 2007, 10:21 PM)
its rainingzero FTW~
cooling below 0'c.... brows.gif
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LOL,
as what I know,
subzero is one kind of tower tat can be build in tower defence (warcarft 3) tongue.gif

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post Nov 21 2007, 10:28 PM

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i know got 1 alchohol drink called subzero la.. hehhe
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post Nov 21 2007, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(cschun86 @ Nov 21 2007, 10:25 PM)
if u require high precision of the colour,
still suggest u to get an CRT monitor,
but now also kinda hard to find CRT monitor,
mostly have to back to back order,
or find those workstation monitor...

hmm, actually not a slight loss if u planning to get LCD that below 22"
below 22" mostly are using TN panel where the colour is sucks among all,
for better suggestion if u wana go for LCD,
u can go to hardware>widescreen thread~
more ppl can explain better than me at there smile.gif
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well, just that pro bout crt, cheap n no need to spend much to get great color quality, but i just hit by space limit though, so lcd seem better choice to maximize resolution viewing.

bout hardware widescreen thread, had a bad experience once. nothing much just got lost in there tongue.gif whistling.gif

neway, just hope this old monitor could last me few moment, hopefully by next year though. n still need to consider getting new graphic card as well :|
2 monitor came in mind now, Samsung SyncMaster 226BW or Dell E228WFP. btw, which shop in penang sell Dell's products?
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post Nov 22 2007, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Nov 21 2007, 10:20 PM)
Dear penang pc enthusiast,
my 7 years old crt is showing ailing sign. i need to gave it cpr, heart massage before it can project nething green electron gun seem needed to warm up (meaning i need to switch n wait for few minutes) n in da mean time suffer the screen in reddish color before green beam is up n everythin is back to original color.
wat should i replace it with?
stick with crt monitor (since im into digital painting) or just get normal lcd n deal with slight loss in color quality? (or does it matter neway?)
*
Well, LCD has lower contrast (because the blacks are not so dark), but actually the tone gradient between colours is more accurate than CRT especially if its using DVI connection. Colour accuracy due to viewing angle is not much of an issue with current LCDs anymore, try out first to your liking (pay more attention to up-down than left-right).

CRT looks sharper because the blacks are more real, but the colour gradient is far less accurate unless you have the means to calibarate it properly (you have to do it every once in a while, as CRT phosphors tend to burn in with age). The screen reacts faster too, but this is usually only a minor issue only in very fast paced games like first person shooters, in other situations LCD is actually more pleasant (especially if using continuously for long hours) because LCDs don't flicker no matter what. Also, CRTs tend to suffer more from picture distortion because the screen is not perfectly flat. There are flat CRTs, but they cost more, almost as much as cheap LCDs. And oh yeah, LCDs are a hell lot lighter.

My suggestion, get a LCD with DVI if you can afford it. If you light your workplace properly then the 'not-as-dark' blacks will be less of a problem. Colour accuracy is actually a big problem with uncalibarated CRTs, shading can look completely different even between monitors, even worse for printing.
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post Nov 22 2007, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Nov 21 2007, 11:12 PM)
well, just that pro bout crt, cheap n no need to spend much to get great color quality, but i just hit by space limit though, so lcd seem better choice to maximize resolution viewing.

bout hardware widescreen thread, had a bad experience once. nothing much just got lost in there tongue.gif whistling.gif

neway, just hope this old monitor could last me few moment, hopefully by next year though. n still need to consider getting new graphic card as well :|
2 monitor came in mind now, Samsung SyncMaster 226BW or Dell E228WFP. btw, which shop in penang sell Dell's products?
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dun get from shop,
coz u wont get the 3 year warranty (1 to 1 exchange)
easy to order dell monitor right now,
online order, or call the hot line,
then they will send the quotation to u,
then u bank in the money,
and call to inform them u had banked in the money,
and send monitor to ur place would be in progress smile.gif

if u wan good colour reproduction,
get samsung one,
or get the dell ultra fine model for 22"...



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post Nov 22 2007, 01:11 AM

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who got dell ARB kangtao? drool.gif
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post Nov 22 2007, 01:24 AM

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sifu sekalian...which ram is the best oc ram currently? i have set eye on team xtreem or ocz currently...which model either this 2 brand is recommanded?
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post Nov 22 2007, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Nov 21 2007, 10:28 PM)
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i know got 1 alchohol drink called subzero la.. hehhe
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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Nov 21 2007, 11:32 PM)
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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Nov 22 2007, 01:11 AM)
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who got dell ARB kangtao?  drool.gif
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plz contribute.... sweat.gif

anyway, for LCD, i thought mostly for graphic designer they will be going for 22"inch panel and above.
maybe Dell lcd good for this job. cost last time got forumer do own this lcd for graphics designing, but forgot which Dell LCD...its 22inch...
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kc say here can sign0014.gif i ma sign0014.gif lo..
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post Nov 22 2007, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(sherren @ Nov 21 2007, 03:51 AM)
i think so , thats y cant find
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haha.. Yaya.. have to survey that day .

although I didnt have anything to buy , I will go this PC Fair too.
Really interested to know which shop will bring in Phenom?

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post Nov 22 2007, 06:40 AM


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@daniel
u cant feel paisheh one?
since so many ppl here no longer spamming the thread and keep posting to help ppl and u r the only one who spam over here.

@coolice
i thought u was talking about the forumer subzero sweat.gif

@darnell
i think most of the penang shop will bring in the new AMD but dont know when only,u know la,malaysia always one step behind cry.gif

@fantasy
if u wanna get OCZ,dont get those model lower than 1066MHz,for those 800mhz,it's not a good oc chipset and most of them using promos chipset,unless u get those 1066MHz model which using the mighty GMH and the incredible GKX flex.gif

oh ya,good morning to Penang PC Talk members
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post Nov 22 2007, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(cschun86 @ Nov 22 2007, 12:37 AM)
dun get from shop,
coz u wont get the 3 year warranty (1 to 1 exchange)
easy to order dell monitor right now,
online order, or call the hot line,
then they will send the quotation to u,
then u bank in the money,
and call to inform them u had banked in the money,
and send monitor to ur place would be in progress smile.gif

if u wan good colour reproduction,
get samsung one,
or get the dell ultra fine model for 22"...
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oh. thx for telling. i was just hoping since i saw their web (Dell's), delivery will costs from RM20 and upto RM247. just preparing for the worse n thought can get it from reseller or something

QUOTE(lohwenli @ Nov 22 2007, 12:35 AM)
Well, LCD has lower contrast (because the blacks are not so dark), but actually the tone gradient between colours is more accurate than CRT especially if its using DVI connection. Colour accuracy due to viewing angle is not much of an issue with current LCDs anymore, try out first to your liking (pay more attention to up-down than left-right).

CRT looks sharper because the blacks are more real, but the colour gradient is far less accurate unless you have the means to calibarate it properly (you have to do it every once in a while, as CRT phosphors tend to burn in with age). The screen reacts faster too, but this is usually only a minor issue only in very fast paced games like first person shooters, in other situations LCD is actually more pleasant (especially if using continuously for long hours) because LCDs don't flicker no matter what. Also, CRTs tend to suffer more from picture distortion because the screen is not perfectly flat. There are flat CRTs, but they cost more, almost as much as cheap LCDs. And oh yeah, LCDs are a hell lot lighter.

My suggestion, get a LCD with DVI if you can afford it. If you light your workplace properly then the 'not-as-dark' blacks will be less of a problem. Colour accuracy is actually a big problem with uncalibarated CRTs, shading can look completely different even between monitors, even worse for printing.
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Nov 22 2007, 01:32 AM)
plz contribute.... sweat.gif

anyway, for LCD, i thought mostly for graphic designer  they will be going for 22"inch panel and above.
maybe Dell lcd good for this job. cost last time got forumer do own this lcd for graphics designing, but forgot which Dell LCD...its 22inch...
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thx for further info bout LCD stuff. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 22 2007, 02:09 PM

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Will this thread continue as new POC thread started~
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this will be closed too,no need to take care of 2 thread,let's concentrate to single thread now brows.gif

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