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Investment SOLASTA @ PERSIARAN DUTAMAS, Dutamas' Latest New Project

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post Dec 2 2018, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(poilam @ Dec 2 2018, 04:44 PM)
This topic becomes hot as there is one guru who comments 99% of the projects/subsale in the market are all grade C and D, and now he grade this project which is selling by his group as grade AA
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Now become grade AA? Wow!
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:17 PM

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Why forumners here obsessed wirh what FRPG is pursuing and their grading?

One thing for sure... No free lunch in this world
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:30 PM

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Waw so hot this property.

ok la, let me summary all the thing.

Booster
1. KL metropolis (link)
2. MRT 3 (Cancel, slowly wait may b got, hearsay the land oredi bought by MRT but dun knw when will revive back. you know politic. very like U turn now)


Bad thing
1. HTC
2. Highway
3. Cemetery

Surrounding Condo
1. Icon Residence 800+ psf (rental 2500 for 2r2b, 900sf)
2. Solaris Parq 1000+ psf
3. Dimmersione 900+ psf
4. Arte MK 800+ psf
5. Met 1 900+ psf
6. Agile Kiara 1000+ psf

Now, got group of ppl do bulk purchase with the developer. Rumor say can get 650psf, which is highly possible. Based on that group connection with the developer.
Launching price for the public will be rm800psf min.

If RM650psf,
2 bedroom : fr RM450k, around 700sf size
3 bedroom : fr RM550k ard 850sf size

How grading works? (copy fr guru)
CA - Capital appreciation
CF - Cash flow
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🔹GRADE A
- CA : 20% upon completion (minimum 3 boosters needed)
- CF : positive. More than $300.
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🔹GRADE B
- CA : min 10% upon completion
- CF : positive
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🔹GRADE C
- CA : not much upon completion
- CF : breakeven
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🔹GRADE D
- CA : no profit even if sold
- CF : negative up to $500
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🔹GRADE E
- CA : lost of more than $100k upon selling
- CF : negative more than $1000

if you buy 700sf (2 Bedroom, 2 Bathroom)
RM450K
RM2k per month installment + RM250 maintenance = RM2250 per month
As you see Icon, 2b2b fully furnish can rent 2500-3000. by the time this property after 4 year newly build, gv rental no up. rent out rm2500-3k also. u earning 250-650 positive cash flow. So that y that grp say grade A

if you buy 850 sf (3 Bedroom, 2 Bathroom)
RM550k
RM2.5k per month installment + RM300 maintenance = RM2800 per month
rental ard 3k-3.5k, 200-700 positive cash flow.

In conclusion, if really can get RM650psf. is a good project despite all the pros. HTC, Cemetery. u live there meh. tenant mah. we investor, see number only.
keep and flip also good. if developer launching is 800psf. u oredi earn 150 psf.

And if so many investor in this property, there will have price war as well. you need to have hold at least 1-3 year. Due to too many investor. in order let the market adsorb all first. may b break even rent out, most worst case. but still a good project in deed.

This post has been edited by cliffekent: Dec 2 2018, 06:41 PM
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 2 2018, 06:17 PM)
Why forumners here obsessed wirh what FRPG is pursuing and their grading?

One thing for sure... No free lunch in this world
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sure no free lunch, they sure get COM and they can buy even lower PSF. if they can gather so many ppl buy this project. Cos it help developer save agent com n marketing fees. FR is like their marketing team. Business bro, this is how rich ppl and leader doing. So we small kaki, need to do ur own due diligence.
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:38 PM

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More or less like "I help u, u help me, maaaa"..
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 2 2018, 06:17 PM)
Why forumners here obsessed wirh what FRPG is pursuing and their grading?

One thing for sure... No free lunch in this world
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Many people jealous bro... Thsts why... 650psf if they still cannot see its a grade a, then no need talk jor.. Can sell them other project
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post Dec 2 2018, 06:56 PM

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Based on locating the correct comparison seems to be with changkat view that stretch of road.

How come compared with low density icon where this project going to be 1159units?

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post Dec 2 2018, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(vampireangel1984 @ Dec 2 2018, 06:54 PM)
Many people jealous bro... Thsts why... 650psf if they still cannot see its a grade a, then no need talk jor.. Can sell them other project
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Tbh I cannot make any conclusion based on info here but I guess if forumners keen should do more research in their own and not just rely on third party.
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post Dec 2 2018, 07:03 PM

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Why people who work in KL Metropolis want to stay beside highway noise, ktm noise, graveyard and gigantic HTC ? Where still got a lot of options nearby ?
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QUOTE(indramerlin @ Dec 2 2018, 07:03 PM)
Why people who work in KL Metropolis want to stay beside highway noise, ktm noise, graveyard and gigantic HTC ? Where still got a lot of options nearby ?
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Cos is newly completed. Not all ppl avoid highway noise, ktm noise, graveyard and gigantic HTC. Just like your lovely the netizen also. Got graveyard, also u buy 10 units
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 2 2018, 06:56 PM)
Based on locating the correct comparison seems to be with changkat view that stretch of road.

How come compared with low density icon where this project going to be 1159units?
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Correct. High density also. Need to take into this consideration. That why need time to absord. At least 1-3 years. May b bleed a bit when VP, due to high competition.
Because icon is on that area. Same 2b2b. Compare apple to apple.
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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Dec 2 2018, 04:07 PM)
Parking. Newbie here excited to read all seasons investors and experts throwing all the comments. Cant wait for the “team conclusion” about this project. What PSF is BBB or ...???
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Per square feet

Buy Buy Buy
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QUOTE(poilam @ Dec 2 2018, 04:44 PM)
This topic becomes hot as there is one guru who comments 99% of the projects/subsale in the market are all grade C and D, and now he grade this project which is selling by his group as grade AA
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Wakao...
Already become grade AA...
Later become AAA 😑😎
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QUOTE(kiwiguy @ Nov 30 2018, 11:20 PM)
i think you can answer this question or provide more info on this project as you're from FR BBV team?
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We are not from developer, we can only guess why. That's why i ask xeralis why since he's got people inside the developer's office.
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post Dec 2 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 2 2018, 08:00 PM)
Wakao...
Already become grade AA...
Later become AAA 😑😎
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If the price is as indicated yes its a
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post Dec 2 2018, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(David_77 @ Dec 1 2018, 09:25 AM)
For this project, why is it grade a? Syahrim Naim can tell you why 😉
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Askar perang already provided the prices of the projects in the area and the criteria for grade a. So yeah, its not a secret why. However, i see a lot of people do not understand the principles we used to evaluate projects.
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post Dec 2 2018, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(ipannapi @ Dec 2 2018, 01:13 AM)
nothing finalise yet.. talk here and there only..
i think YNH paid this thread to do fishing/survey at what price point ppl BBB mode on..
if hot like this.. comfirm they sell 800psft..
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HTC and graveyard. A lot of people already said no to this project although the thread is hot. rm800 psf sure cannot la. even rm600 hard to push.
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post Dec 2 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(poilam @ Dec 2 2018, 02:19 AM)
I think A lot of Faizul Ridzuan group members are closely monitoring it..per my source, his group is benchmarking this property with Hartamas Regency & Icon MK. Then use walking distance to KL Metropolis as selling point ...

Nowadays I start to on doubt, don’t Faizul is the one who keep saying we should not buy something based on unclear boosters ? MRT3 on hold(most likely cancel), would KL METROPOLIS still able to go as per plan without MRT3?
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Bro you've been to dutamas recently?
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post Dec 2 2018, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Nov 29 2018, 09:52 AM)
I didn’t. I’m a newbie sir.
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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Dec 2 2018, 08:54 PM)
Askar perang already provided the prices of the projects in the area and the criteria for grade a. So yeah, its not a secret why. However, i see a lot of people do not understand the principles we used to evaluate projects.
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3 days earlier, you said you are newbie.

Now you said ‘people do not understand the principles we used...’

bro, every project has it’s supporters and detractors. The correct principle is to be come clear of your vested interest. You ini curi-curi pretend newbie, now pecah lubang you ada vested interest 🤦‍♂️
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QUOTE(vampireangel1984 @ Dec 2 2018, 06:54 PM)
Many people jealous bro... Thsts why... 650psf if they still cannot see its a grade a, then no need talk jor.. Can sell them other project
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Well said bro haha

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