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patricktoh
post Jun 17 2020, 08:25 PM

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If you don't agree with HR request then move on. Why should HR listen to you?
ArenarZ
post Jun 18 2020, 12:56 PM

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Haha..funny.. In this case actually is a fight who are desperate for job/people.. In malaysia, its a norm to provide the last withdrawn salary..I know u did not like it, no one want to give their pay slip..

In this case, I bet the MNC company has people line up to join their company..so they dont even bother to entertain your attitude, thus end up, they reject u and find another people..they consider it as attitude problem because you go against their request.

For me, I dont see a problem in provide your last payslip, usually MNC has a benchmark..so the HR will add up 20-30% from your last payslip..but you can always nego up with good justification..

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klch87
post Jun 18 2020, 04:33 PM

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Sounds fishy.

Why wouldn't you just show your payslip as a proof of your salary amount from previous company to simplify the whole process without making fuss?

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post Jun 19 2020, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Jun 17 2020, 06:45 PM)
I disagree

1. It’s better that HR call the previous company HR to confirm
2. Previous salary should not b a gauge of what ur future salary should b. It should b base on ur experience and what u can offer
3. See number 2
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If you can't provide HR your pay slip, why would you still want to send in your resume with stated expected salary? HR can offer without referring your expected salary but with your capability and what you can offer what. smile.gif

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BLKH3
post Jun 19 2020, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Jun 18 2020, 04:33 PM)
Sounds fishy.

Why wouldn't you just show your payslip as a proof of your salary amount from previous company to simplify the whole process without making fuss?
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because the correct thing for the company to do will be to offer salary based on what the candidate brings to the table and not based on previous salary?
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(BLKH3 @ Jun 19 2020, 06:50 PM)
because the correct thing for the company to do will be to offer salary based on what the candidate brings to the table and not based on previous salary?
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It’s easier for HR to assess based on your last drawn rather than your resume during interview. You think they can assess your capability during 1-2 hours of interview?

Fact is, if you are underpaid for your previous job, there must be a reason. If you believe you are worth that amount of money, then stick to your price. Just say no if the HR cannot offer you based on your asking price.

At the end of the day, if you do not want the job, there any many lining out there. If you can’t even get pass the stage of providing a payslip, there’s nothing really to negotiate with the HR anymore.
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Jun 17 2020, 06:45 PM)
I disagree

1. It’s better that HR call the previous company HR to confirm
2. Previous salary should not b a gauge of what ur future salary should b. It should b base on ur experience and what u can offer
3. See number 2
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of course it's your right to disagree, but bear in mind that the HR is the one who decides whether to hire you or not...and frankly speaking if you can't furnish as requested, chances are quite slim compared to other candidates who are willing to furnish HR with the payslip

if you are not happy...you are welcome to try other companies who do not request for current payslip

QUOTE(victorian @ Jun 19 2020, 10:25 PM)
It’s easier for HR to assess based on your last drawn rather than your resume during interview. You think they can assess your capability during 1-2 hours of interview?

Fact is, if you are underpaid for your previous job, there must be a reason. If you believe you are worth that amount of money, then stick to your price. Just say no if the HR cannot offer you based on your asking price.

At the end of the day, if you do not want the job, there any many lining out there. If you can’t even get pass the stage of providing a payslip, there’s nothing really to negotiate with the HR anymore.
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i kinda agree with this...

any tom dick and harry can write whatever they like on their resumes...until pigs can fly

in reality, only actual performance matters...and big companies rewards performers with higher salary...it's as simple as that
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post Sep 23 2022, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Nov 6 2018, 10:28 AM)
My HR will reply,

Given that a Toyota is SGD100K in Sg, would you pay RM300K for the same Toyota in M?
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I think let alone SGD 10k, even it's RM 10k, they won't offer it. I understand each company has their own salary standards to their employees. If company can't give any increment the candidate expects, what's the point of providing payslip to company? In addition, is the pay not based on their ability, experiences and knowledge, just based on the previous salary? Since company can check with the company the candidate was previously working for, is there still any doubts on the work experiences they possess? Why don't they just tell the candidate the salary they can offer and let them decide whether or not to accept the offer?
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post Sep 25 2022, 09:56 AM

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some of yall here are dumbfucks for ridiculing TS for not giving out his payslip.
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post Sep 27 2022, 02:47 PM

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I don't think there is a law that prohibits employers from asking for payslip and any other documents, etc. Employers have the right to ask for documents that they think are necessary. You have the right to think that it does not make sense but that is just your opinion. Of course, you also have the right to not share what they requested. Then, of course again, they have the right to reject your application. Just move on until you find one you satisfied with. This argument will not go anywhere because there is no right or wrong about this issue. There are only opinions.
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Sep 25 2022, 09:56 AM)
some of yall here are dumbfucks for ridiculing TS for not giving out his payslip.
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Nothing wrong for folks having different opinions. Some wants to play by the rules, some wants to get the job desperately and some are comfortable negotiating by providing their salary slip in order to gain more. At the end of the day, each situation has a different context, background and information that we all assume to be the same.

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