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vanitas
post Nov 18 2018, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:45 PM)
Haha,I pun pening .
So which way is better ?????
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Like lucifah said, save time then paid off in one shot.
You drag time doesn't gain much benefits, or even seems worst than paid off in one shot.

My calculation could be wrong, wait expert come in.
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post Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 18 2018, 12:49 PM)
Our own way always best way smile.gif

I realised financial mathematics is most complicated from my engineering mathematics...lol
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Same as yesterday a forumer said 1.68% 1 time interest ,6 month period.

So we cannot take the loan put in asnb 6%????


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post Nov 18 2018, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM)
Same as yesterday a forumer said 1.68% 1 time interest ,6 month period.

So we cannot take the loan put in asnb 6%????
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Uncle, can la..

The most important thing you missed out.. if after you paid off in one shot, can still top up the loan installments amount to asnb.
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post Nov 18 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:54 PM)
Uncle, can la..

The most important thing you missed out.. if after you paid off in one shot, can still top up the loan installments amount to asnb.
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Should be no problem , can top up the loan installment amount on time within a month .

In case cannot , 1.68% wont cause bankruptcy.

So the risk worth it to take. smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:38 PM)
Salah calculation.
It was 3% of 7 years earlier vs 6% gains after 7 years.
Option 1,
You paid off 100k car loan.
No money to put asnb.
But can top up asnb 17k every year for 7 years.
End of the day asnb got 150k with 6% compound.

Paid 100k, left 150k.

Option 2,
You borrow 100k car loan.
100k in asnb.
Paid loan 17k x 7 = 121000 over 7 years.
Asnb got 150k with 6% compound.

Paid 121k, left 150k.

Uncle, I draft quite quick, ask me again if I missed out anything.
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this is my personal opinion,
what if you cant topup 17k every year ?
also seem asm so far only special day can topup sweat.gif (i new player this year though)

lucifah also make a good point on this
QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 18 2018, 12:28 PM)
can you give me the same guarantee of 6% for ASNB for the whole 7 yr tenure?

if you ask me, i buy a RM50k car and dump the 50k into ASB. setlle.  laugh.gif
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based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00..

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post Nov 18 2018, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sunsetdeska @ Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM)
this is my personal opinion,
what if you cant topup 17k every year ?
also seem asm so far only special day can  topup  sweat.gif  (i new player this year though)

lucifah also make a good point on this
based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00..
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*Beside asm1 , we can top up asm2 and asm3 .
*17k top up for sure can be done in a year.
*99.99% another 7 years , dividend won't less than 3.1% (from example 3% car loan)

If next coming 7 years , dividend less than 3% then unker wrong. smile.gif

This post has been edited by DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ: Nov 18 2018, 01:10 PM
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post Nov 18 2018, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM)
Same as yesterday a forumer said 1.68% 1 time interest ,6 month period.

So we cannot take the loan put in asnb 6%????
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its not risk free

every month credit card must pay FULL on time, or the interest will spiked to 18% p.a.

This post has been edited by john123x: Nov 18 2018, 01:13 PM
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post Nov 18 2018, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Nov 18 2018, 01:09 PM)
its not risk free

every month credit card must pay on time, or the interest will spiked to 18% p.a.
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Ic.
Before apply must confident can pay on time.

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post Nov 18 2018, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 01:12 PM)
Ic.
Before apply must confident can pay on time.
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exactly, do not commit loan if you are not confident can pay consistently...otherwise our credit score koyak...

same apply when we swipe CC..
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sunsetdeska @ Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM)
this is my personal opinion,
what if you cant topup 17k every year ?
also seem asm so far only special day can  topup  sweat.gif  (i new player this year though)

lucifah also make a good point on this
based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00..
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Not sure about others, but I can top up near automatically.

Or you can adjust my calculation into 3% FD, top up 17k annually, still got near 135k after 7 years.
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:20 PM)
If I have cash 100k now , I prefer keep in asnb then pay installment.

100k car loan , 7 years ,3%= total paid 121,000 .
100k keep asnb ,7 years , 6%= total 142,000 .(excluded compounding).

** ???? Apa salah ????
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If u have 100k cash n opt to take car loan based on the above terms.
U put the 100k cash in ASx, then every month u take out 1440.50 to pay your car installment.
At the end of 7 years after paying off the car loan, your balance in ASx is 1281(including compounding dividend), not 142000-121000=21000. Assuming ASx dividend is 6% for 7 years.

The car loan 3% is not half of the 6% dividend, that is what I am saying where many make mistakes.

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post Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:38 PM)
Salah calculation.
It was 3% of 7 years earlier vs 6% gains after 7 years.
Option 1,
You paid off 100k car loan.
No money to put asnb.
But can top up asnb 17k every year for 7 years.
End of the day asnb got 150k with 6% compound.

Paid 100k, left 150k.

Option 2,
You borrow 100k car loan.
100k in asnb.
Paid loan 17k x 7 = 121000 over 7 years.
Asnb got 150k with 6% compound.

Paid 121k, left 150k.

Uncle, I draft quite quick, ask me again if I missed out anything.
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Why so complicated?
U have 100k cash:
option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx.
option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281.
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:17 PM)
If u have 100k cash n opt to take car loan based on the above terms.
U put the 100k cash in ASx, then every month u take out 1440.50 to pay your car installment.
At the end of 7 years after paying off the car loan, your balance in ASx is 1281(including compounding dividend), not 142000-121000=21000. Assuming ASx dividend is 6% for 7 years.

The car loan 3% is not half of the 6% dividend, that is what I am saying where many make mistakes.
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Oh , now I know y u said I kepala otak .

Actually my point is keep 100k in asnb , then every month pay installment by salary.

Sorry ,I didn't tell the full story.
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:29 PM

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Be like me. No debt.

Then see ASX grow biggrin.gif

I’m not into good debt/bad debt...all this not my cup of tea. To each his own
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM)
Why so complicated?
U have 100k cash:
option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx.
option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281.
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Because uncle want pay installments by salary, not by withdraw.
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post Nov 18 2018, 02:57 PM

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wah so much discussions going on..
looks interesting & refreshing from the normal updates... can get more info...

but I needed to remind also.. it's kinda sign0006.gif sign0006.gif too
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post Nov 18 2018, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 18 2018, 02:57 PM)
wah so much discussions going on..
looks interesting & refreshing from the normal updates... can get more info...

but I needed to remind also.. it's kinda  sign0006.gif  sign0006.gif too
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Not really, it was about pay car loan or put in ASX.
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post Nov 18 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM)
Why so complicated?
U have 100k cash:
option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx.
option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281.
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Btw, how to count the option 2, which calculator / tool you are using?
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post Nov 18 2018, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 03:00 PM)
Not really, it was about pay car loan or put in ASX.
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make sure to add 'ASNB' or 'ASX' or 'top-up' word in each post....otherwise kena kick or kena red card devil.gif

This post has been edited by veera77: Nov 18 2018, 03:08 PM
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