QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:45 PM)
Like lucifah said, save time then paid off in one shot. You drag time doesn't gain much benefits, or even seems worst than paid off in one shot.
My calculation could be wrong, wait expert come in.
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Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM
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Nov 18 2018, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM) Same as yesterday a forumer said 1.68% 1 time interest ,6 month period. Uncle, can la.. So we cannot take the loan put in asnb 6%???? The most important thing you missed out.. if after you paid off in one shot, can still top up the loan installments amount to asnb. |
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Nov 18 2018, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:54 PM) Uncle, can la.. Should be no problem , can top up the loan installment amount on time within a month .The most important thing you missed out.. if after you paid off in one shot, can still top up the loan installments amount to asnb. In case cannot , 1.68% wont cause bankruptcy. So the risk worth it to take. |
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Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:38 PM) Salah calculation. this is my personal opinion, It was 3% of 7 years earlier vs 6% gains after 7 years. Option 1, You paid off 100k car loan. No money to put asnb. But can top up asnb 17k every year for 7 years. End of the day asnb got 150k with 6% compound. Paid 100k, left 150k. Option 2, You borrow 100k car loan. 100k in asnb. Paid loan 17k x 7 = 121000 over 7 years. Asnb got 150k with 6% compound. Paid 121k, left 150k. Uncle, I draft quite quick, ask me again if I missed out anything. what if you cant topup 17k every year ? also seem asm so far only special day can topup lucifah also make a good point on this QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 18 2018, 12:28 PM) can you give me the same guarantee of 6% for ASNB for the whole 7 yr tenure? based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00..if you ask me, i buy a RM50k car and dump the 50k into ASB. setlle. |
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Nov 18 2018, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Sunsetdeska @ Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM) this is my personal opinion, *Beside asm1 , we can top up asm2 and asm3 .what if you cant topup 17k every year ? also seem asm so far only special day can topup lucifah also make a good point on this based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00.. *17k top up for sure can be done in a year. *99.99% another 7 years , dividend won't less than 3.1% (from example 3% car loan) If next coming 7 years , dividend less than 3% then unker wrong. This post has been edited by DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ: Nov 18 2018, 01:10 PM |
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Nov 18 2018, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:53 PM) Same as yesterday a forumer said 1.68% 1 time interest ,6 month period. its not risk freeSo we cannot take the loan put in asnb 6%???? every month credit card must pay FULL on time, or the interest will spiked to 18% p.a. This post has been edited by john123x: Nov 18 2018, 01:13 PM |
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Nov 18 2018, 01:12 PM
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Nov 18 2018, 02:07 PM
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Nov 18 2018, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Sunsetdeska @ Nov 18 2018, 01:02 PM) this is my personal opinion, Not sure about others, but I can top up near automatically.what if you cant topup 17k every year ? also seem asm so far only special day can topup lucifah also make a good point on this based on the rate from 2014 , asm 2 & 3 keep dropping lucky this time maintain at 6.00.. Or you can adjust my calculation into 3% FD, top up 17k annually, still got near 135k after 7 years. |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 18 2018, 12:20 PM) If I have cash 100k now , I prefer keep in asnb then pay installment. If u have 100k cash n opt to take car loan based on the above terms. 100k car loan , 7 years ,3%= total paid 121,000 . 100k keep asnb ,7 years , 6%= total 142,000 .(excluded compounding). ** ???? Apa salah ???? U put the 100k cash in ASx, then every month u take out 1440.50 to pay your car installment. At the end of 7 years after paying off the car loan, your balance in ASx is 1281(including compounding dividend), not 142000-121000=21000. Assuming ASx dividend is 6% for 7 years. The car loan 3% is not half of the 6% dividend, that is what I am saying where many make mistakes. This post has been edited by MGM: Nov 18 2018, 02:35 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 18 2018, 12:38 PM) Salah calculation. Why so complicated? It was 3% of 7 years earlier vs 6% gains after 7 years. Option 1, You paid off 100k car loan. No money to put asnb. But can top up asnb 17k every year for 7 years. End of the day asnb got 150k with 6% compound. Paid 100k, left 150k. Option 2, You borrow 100k car loan. 100k in asnb. Paid loan 17k x 7 = 121000 over 7 years. Asnb got 150k with 6% compound. Paid 121k, left 150k. Uncle, I draft quite quick, ask me again if I missed out anything. U have 100k cash: option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx. option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281. |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:17 PM) If u have 100k cash n opt to take car loan based on the above terms. Oh , now I know y u said I kepala otak .U put the 100k cash in ASx, then every month u take out 1440.50 to pay your car installment. At the end of 7 years after paying off the car loan, your balance in ASx is 1281(including compounding dividend), not 142000-121000=21000. Assuming ASx dividend is 6% for 7 years. The car loan 3% is not half of the 6% dividend, that is what I am saying where many make mistakes. Actually my point is keep 100k in asnb , then every month pay installment by salary. Sorry ,I didn't tell the full story. |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:29 PM
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Be like me. No debt.
Then see ASX grow I’m not into good debt/bad debt...all this not my cup of tea. To each his own |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM) Why so complicated? Because uncle want pay installments by salary, not by withdraw.U have 100k cash: option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx. option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281. |
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Nov 18 2018, 02:57 PM
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wah so much discussions going on..
looks interesting & refreshing from the normal updates... can get more info... but I needed to remind also.. it's kinda |
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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 18 2018, 02:25 PM) Why so complicated? Btw, how to count the option 2, which calculator / tool you are using?U have 100k cash: option 1 use it to pay for the car, no ASx. option 2 take a car loan 3% interest, put 100K into ASx n every month pay 1440.50 car installment for 84 months, in the end ASx balance has 1281. |
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Nov 18 2018, 03:04 PM
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suddenly so active, I thought ASM available again
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