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post Oct 28 2018, 09:34 PM

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Even got tax, there is still no better risk free / low risk investment better than asx.
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:26 PM

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Why worry now when you can withdraw everything on 31 Dec 2018 if no answer given?

Only ASB holders should be worry because fund was suspended that time.

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post Oct 31 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:30 PM)
If top up now n withdraw on 31st Dec, no dividend right
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If it is VP, dividend or not doesn't makes any difference.
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 31 2018, 12:33 PM)
technically u can. but in the unlikeliest event that there is changes announced on 31 december, it leaves very little time to act upon. and if im not mistaken someone shared that there's a limit of withdrawal even to bank accounts.
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I don't think there is a limit. Anyone can give answer on this?
And what is the possibility to give prospectus for 2019 on 31 Dec 2018 afternoon? Withdraw everything on 28 Dec 2018 if no news given then.
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ultraman29 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:35 PM)
for those who think for the worst/pessimistic, best time is to withdraw now so you can sleep better at night. lol
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They think prospectus will be given on 31 Dec 2018 3.59pm...
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 31 2018, 12:44 PM)
according to this. didnt know previously as well, maybe someone with real life experience can give some feedback.

btw I suggest TS to pin previous versions at the first page as well. had to look up and down for previous version. lol.

it's very likely extension will be given la, but it's silly to withdraw all the hard earned units for something not confirmed like this.
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It is not unlikely, but near impossible even asnb/bank staff know it only on 31 Dec. Also asb2 deadline is 2020, can't be only asb2 is FP...
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post Oct 31 2018, 04:05 PM

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I don't think anyone here will sell before 31 Dec despite the doubt.
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post Oct 31 2018, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Oct 31 2018, 04:41 PM)
What if the unit price drop till same as asn equity 2 , 0.5673 per unit ?

1m wawasan become 567300 , almost half hilang.
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If not mistaken asn and asn2 is having unit split before, thus you need to x2 for real value of that.

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post Oct 31 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(rhodon @ Oct 31 2018, 05:05 PM)
let withdraw all, not sure they got so much money to pay us or not.
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If we withdraw all, it will backfire, hurt ourself only i.e. EPF money gone because stock market collapsed.
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post Oct 31 2018, 05:37 PM

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Unless government wants everyone save their money in bank fd, otherwise it won't happen la

Whatelse is safe if asnb also not safe? Only fd, not even EPF can be safe.
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post Oct 31 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 31 2018, 05:50 PM)
SC vs government who wins usually
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SC is under MoF, which is the government.

QUOTE(OPT @ Oct 31 2018, 05:54 PM)
Govt wants you to spend more  biggrin.gif
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So stock market can up up up.

QUOTE(fairylord @ Oct 31 2018, 05:55 PM)
after May 2018, Justice and Truth win.
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This is asnb not 1mdb. Exemption to disclose nav is legal.
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post Oct 31 2018, 06:56 PM

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They just rename and rebrand all the funds, and you expect them to give supplementary prospectus within a month? Wait till Dec only start worry la

Personally don't think it will changed to VP
1. ASB2 is expired only on 2020
2. Market may collapsed due to massive withdrawal
3. Impossible no early notice and no choice given to stay or cabut
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2018, 08:50 PM)
Supplementary prospectus would be available around January only.. Then we shall know SC extended or not..

Master Prospectus would out around June 2019...
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Where is the date comes from? I thought they can give the prospectus anytime after approved by sc.
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:27 PM)
Does it mean conversion from fp to vp can be done anytime after 31/12/18?
Isn’t there a notice to inform before implementation fp > vp?

Imagine 1m holdings become 500k 😜😜
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There must be a notice, with time given to choose stay or withdraw, otherwise you can go protest already.

Even just a rename which affect no one they announce it like few weeks earlier.

Stop being paranoid for nothing.
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:36 PM)
Anything can happen now. They will have a way which protect themselves . No matter how terrible is your rant ,you are still at losing end
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Then you better sell sell sell
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post Oct 31 2018, 10:53 PM

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There is always people who paranoid on everything, i.e. in extreme case keep money under the bed than bank.

Even FD, people afraid to use bank rakyat because it got no pidm. But do they know pidm doesn't exist until 200x.
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Nov 1 2018, 03:41 PM)
I all in into wawasan....
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There is one small disadvantage to all in only one fund, which is you will have one week suspended period that couldn't use the fund if needed.
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 1 2018, 04:08 PM)
no more 1 week suspension leh
few days only  biggrin.gif
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Penangguhan urus niaga ASW 2020: 30 Ogos hingga 1 September 2018
Penangguhan urus niaga ASD & ASN equity 2: 27 hingga 30 Jun 2018
Penangguhan urus niaga ASB 2, ASM & ASG: 23 hingga 31 Mac 2018

Recently are all few days, but in March it was still one week, so I assume one week lo..

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post Nov 2 2018, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2018, 09:29 AM)
Good...
Seems like ASM3 much easier to get...
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Actually wawasan more easy to fish due to larger fund size, more people selling.
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post Nov 2 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Nov 2 2018, 09:45 AM)
I think ASM3 will be the first fund for experiment FP to VP.
Going to sell on 1/1/19 and buy more ASW.

Good idea?
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Not this topic again, if it is only you think so, just sell.
If there is any news, please share.

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