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nexona88
post Jun 13 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 13 2019, 11:56 AM)
Morning Sis,
Just 20 minutes ago, received Internet survey from Asnb.

One specific question was, if the fund paid only 4.50%,will you continue to hold asnb funds?...I reply OK, will hold.

When will you sell funds... I reply after 2025.

Hahaha, cannot imagine what's gonna happen to future dividends.
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4.5%???
So they target such low percentage in worse case scenario πŸ˜‚πŸ˜¬


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post Jun 13 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 13 2019, 12:03 PM)
4.5%???
So they target such low percentage in worse case scenario πŸ˜‚πŸ˜¬
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still better than fd laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 13 2019, 11:50 AM)
M2U problem again?

Want top up also cannot. Login also cannot
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Past few months having issues... From time to time...
And this time.. the timing is on when the so called scandals involves maybank KL account... Guess doing some internal check up.. or people curiousness on the UEM account number. And start test by fake instant transfer πŸ˜†
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jun 13 2019, 12:03 PM)
you're such a sport unker.

you should've said you'll hold till negative dividend.
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Don't lah. I never suggest pnb.... Rob from high networth Elder Believe, to pay people like Unker.
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 13 2019, 12:14 PM)
Don't lah. I never suggest pnb.... Rob from high networth Elder Believe, to pay people like Unker.
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elder believe didn't receive such survey. so he's not high networth. so what unker mean is rob from poor pay to rich unkers like your good self.
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jun 13 2019, 12:18 PM)
elder believe didn't receive such survey. so he's not high networth. so what unker mean is rob from poor pay to rich unkers like your good self.
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So rich get richer, poor get poorer?
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:39 PM

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have anyone try transferring ASX units to another person successfully ?

my dad is redrawing his ASX and i would like to purchase his units, i know there is a Rm15 fees.

I just need to know that is this really possible ?
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 13 2019, 12:03 PM)
4.5%???
So they target such low percentage in worse case scenario πŸ˜‚πŸ˜¬
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I'd still buy because if they give 4.5%, I cannot imagine what FDs will offer.
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Jun 13 2019, 12:38 PM)
So rich get richer, poor get poorer?
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Hmm, this a fact, more frightening is the middle class gap getting thinner n dropping to lower class.
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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 13 2019, 12:59 PM)
Hmm, this a fact, more frightening is the middle class gap getting thinner n dropping to lower class.
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True.
From Unker pov, mind sharing what is the cause of the drop to lower class?
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post Jun 13 2019, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Jun 13 2019, 01:15 PM)
True.
From Unker pov, mind sharing what is the cause of the drop to lower class?
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Only country seeing improving middle class n wealthy class is China,... likely, Vietnam.

One obvious reason, Manufacturing moved to China. Only Manufacturing (before Robots & AI), you need VP, Director, Snr Mgr, Mgr, Sec Mgr,..... Operator. While Service Industry is very lean n mean.

That's why TunM wants another national car, being an OEM, JDM will allow better Profit Before Tax... Can feed more people. That's why in Malaysia, if you work as Logistics, Service Industry, your Ops margin is all single digit %. A good OEM margin can be 40-50%.

Someone mentioned 2 days ago, why the FAANG companies don't invest in Malaysia.... Hahaha, we don't have the available land, people, education, supporting technology n most important attitude. Mfg contributes to approx 30-40% of country's growth.

Malaysia will have chance with a China +1 strategy, if the big bosses wish to hedge their mfg... In view of long term China vs USA trade war. Trump can get impeached, but not remove as the House is Republican controlled. Why risk give presidency to a Democrat. Also, USA need approx 5 years (per published report) to develop 5G....the tech is there, but need time spent on reconfiguring their USA Defense n Encryption frequency for 5G. That's why US was happily complacent n sleeping on this tech front.

Last generation, like Unker was lucky... We has approx 25 years golden period of industrialization n mfg moved to Malaysia.... Before China woke up. We trained our 1st batch of China engineers in 1994, when they stayed 6 months in Penang.

Unfortunately, all this time, we took life easy... Hardly, any enterprising professionals moved to tech nor biz start up. All complacent to be millionaires thru MNCs. OK, don't mention abt Gomen.... Totally different story, in case I go jail for Sedition Act.

So, now if we don't attract reasonable FDI, likely, well be exporting citizens to other countries as hopefully white collar professionals,.... Not maids n janitors. Language syills again!!!! Go learn Mandarin & likely Russian.


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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 13 2019, 12:41 PM)
I'd still buy because if they give 4.5%, I cannot imagine what FDs will offer.
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The Gap is reducing drastically...
Promo FD rate I think around 4.10%
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post Jun 13 2019, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 13 2019, 01:56 PM)
The Gap is reducing drastically...
Promo FD rate I think around 4.10%
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Wow, inflation avg at 2.7%... Real interest gain just 1.4%.
Reason why lower spending power.
Spend more than 1.4%, means eating into principal future value.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 13 2019, 01:56 PM)
The Gap is reducing drastically...
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maybe they want to sell more units leh. more units = lower dividend if income is fixed.
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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 13 2019, 01:45 PM)
Only country seeing improving middle class n wealthy class is China,... likely, Vietnam.

One obvious reason, Manufacturing moved to China. Only Manufacturing (before Robots & AI), you need VP, Director, Snr Mgr, Mgr, Sec Mgr,..... Operator. While Service Industry is very lean n mean.

That's why TunM wants another national car, being an OEM, JDM will allow better Profit Before Tax... Can feed more people. That's why in Malaysia, if you work as Logistics, Service Industry, your Ops margin is all single digit %. A good OEM margin can be 40-50%.

Someone mentioned 2 days ago, why the FAANG companies don't invest in Malaysia.... Hahaha, we don't have the available land, people, education, supporting technology n most important attitude. Mfg contributes to approx 30-40% of country's growth.

Malaysia will have chance with a China +1 strategy, if the big bosses wish to hedge their mfg... In view of long term China vs USA trade war. Trump can get impeached, but not remove as the House is Republican controlled. Why risk give presidency to a Democrat. Also, USA need approx 5 years (per published report) to develop 5G....the tech is there, but need time spent on reconfiguring their USA Defense n Encryption frequency for 5G. That's why US was happily complacent n sleeping on this tech front.

Last generation, like Unker was lucky... We has approx 25 years golden period of industrialization n mfg moved to Malaysia.... Before China woke up. We trained our 1st batch of China engineers in 1994, when they stayed 6 months in Penang.

Unfortunately, all this time, we took life easy... Hardly, any enterprising professionals moved to tech nor biz start up. All complacent to be millionaires thru MNCs. OK, don't mention abt Gomen.... Totally different story, in case I go jail for Sedition Act.

So, now if we don't attract reasonable FDI, likely, well be exporting citizens to other countries as hopefully white collar professionals,.... Not maids n janitors. Language syills again!!!! Go learn Mandarin & likely Russian.
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It's a sad sad situation in MY now from being a highly potential country to nearly bankrupt country.

Now they have to think some way to attract most but not all FDI.

Mega projects may not the answer but facilities, environment and social does.

As long as a country not well prepared for advance company. We can forget it becomes leading country in Asia. SEA also become problem lah.
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jun 13 2019, 02:25 PM)
maybe they want to sell more units leh. more units = lower dividend if income is fixed.
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Hmmm, so asnb pay a 1 time special dividend to existing investors, credit no# of units equivalent to dividend $.

Then, increase no# of units (reduce par value to say, 0.5x), flood market with 1-2x available units, for new investors to buy, but still maintain same fund capitalisation $.
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post Jun 13 2019, 03:02 PM

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Just want to know more info about the withdrawal part of ASX fund,

1)Do anyone choose to better withdraw it from ASNB branch or bank branch?

2)If withdraw from asnb branch, do they give you cash or cheque? I asked, they said cash but i didnt specific bigger amount to them. If big amount then just carry big amount out of branch will looks scary if you know what i mean.

3)I read from previous post like maximum withdrawal transaction amount is rm50k. So if want to withdraw more then will get many transaction receipt of rm50k, no choice right?

4)I suppose still need to fill withdrawal form in both asnb branch or bank branch?
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QUOTE(rojakwhacker @ Jun 13 2019, 03:02 PM)
Just want to know more info about the withdrawal part of ASX fund,

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Otc withdrawal from Penang asnb branch, max $10k cash.

Anything higher, go bank.... MBB will give you cash, cheque or just bank to your MBB account.
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post Jun 13 2019, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 13 2019, 03:17 PM)
Otc withdrawal from Penang asnb branch, max $10k cash.
Anything higher, go bank.... MBB will give you cash, cheque or just bank to your MBB account.
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So is better to do it in bank branch. Alright stick to bank branch then. Hope ANSB upgrade their withdrawal part to allow withdraw online in MYASNB or use bank's online banking features in future. So that no waiting needed for withdrawal in bank branch. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rojakwhacker @ Jun 13 2019, 03:31 PM)
So is better to do it in bank branch. Alright stick to bank branch then. Hope ANSB upgrade their withdrawal part to allow withdraw online in MYASNB or use bank's online banking features in future. So that no waiting needed for withdrawal in bank branch.  laugh.gif
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I guess that they just want to be more cautious... too many scams nowadays. (especially on elder)

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