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post Nov 2 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Nov 2 2024, 12:17 PM)
In the end. TM still win. Both network will do business with TM. Through collab & fibre leasing. But, leave DNB to Maxis & YTL.. doh.gif
Expensive wif cheapsmore telco... laugh.gif laugh.gif
30 mil U-CD-TM vs 10 mil Maxis-YTL

Waiting for U Home 5G on DNB 2 network. With SA or Advanced gigabit speed. Time to ditch fibre monopoly under TMnut..RM68 vs RM89 fibre. No contract somemore. TM need to cut fibre price when FWA is people choice for rental home user.
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U Mobile and CDB still need DNB for years to come until they reach similar or better coverage nationwide. Don't know how Maxis and YTL gonna deal with DNB as it is already a done infrastructure.
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post Nov 2 2024, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Nov 2 2024, 12:17 PM)
In the end. TM still win. Both network will do business with TM. Through collab & fibre leasing. But, leave DNB to Maxis & YTL.. doh.gif
Expensive wif cheapsmore telco... laugh.gif laugh.gif
30 mil U-CD-TM vs 10 mil Maxis-YTL

Waiting for U Home 5G on DNB 2 network. With SA or Advanced gigabit speed. Time to ditch fibre monopoly under TMnut..RM68 vs RM89 fibre. No contract somemore. TM need to cut fibre price when FWA is people choice for rental home user.
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No lah.
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Mobile 4G/5G Internet has limited bandwidth capacity = celcos have to impose FUP data limits bc the 4G/5G network is prone to congestion during peak traffic hours in urban areas when speed can drop to 3Mbps for all the 500 active subscribers, eg all U Mobile GX plans have a monthly FUP limit of 100GB .
....... A 4G cell tower has to service about 500 active subscribers at any one time but a 2X10MHz frequency band only gives 400Mbps bandwidth capacity. U Mobile 4G has a combined 90Mhz = 1800Mbps capacity to be shared by 500 active subscribers = 3.6Mbps per active subscriber.
....... DNB1 has 1X200MHz for mid-band 3500MHz = 4Gbps of bandwidth capacity per 5G cell tower to be shared by the 5 celcos and their 5G subscribers.

In comparison, immobile Fibre Internet does not have limited bandwidth capacity = TM Unifi Fibre plans are truly unlimited wrt data consumption.
....... A Fibre cable has to service only about 50 active subscribers at any one time, eg in terrace homes, offices, etc, and a Fibre cable has 10Gbps or 10,000Mbps bandwidth capacity = 200Mbps per active subscriber.

So, certain folks still prefer TM Unfi Fibre over 5G FWA from DNB1 or DNB2, eg a 4 person family or rental home with smartphones, tablets, computers, large TVs, 4 CCTVs, etc.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Nov 2 2024, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 2 2024, 02:52 PM)
U Mobile and CDB still need DNB for years to come until they reach similar or better coverage nationwide. Don't know how Maxis and YTL gonna deal with DNB as it is already a done infrastructure.
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If U Mobile's DNB2 launches as 5G SA with a low-band frequency of 600MHz (eg 2X20MHz = 800Mbps bandwidth capacity) = the 5G cell tower has a long range of >2km, DNB2 can achieve 80% coverage in about 1 year.
....... By not over-selling initially, eg limit 100 subscribers per 5G cell tower, each active subscriber can get 8Mbps during peak traffic hours in urban areas. More subscribers (up to 500 per cell tower) can later be added as more 5G cell towers are built/deployed together with the shorter range mid-band frequency of 3500MHz.

In comparison, DNB1 launched as 5G NSA with the mid-band frequency of 3500MHz (1X200MHz) = it's 5G cell towers have a short range of <1km = more cell towers needed to be built/deployed to cover a certain area. Hence, it took DNB1 about 2 years to achieve 80% coverage.
....... On top of that, 5G NSA's mid-band frequency of 3500MHz has poor indoor signal and is recently also subjected to network congestion during peak traffic hours in urban areas as more 5G subscribers are added.
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post Nov 2 2024, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Nov 2 2024, 12:32 PM)
We have to wait. TM need to join as they want lease Fibre back haul.

Maxis was always give hate to DNB
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I thought time dotcom and TNB (via allo) also into the fibre leasing business, maybe they could be the alternative.
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post Nov 4 2024, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Nov 2 2024, 12:17 PM)
In the end. TM still win. Both network will do business with TM. Through collab & fibre leasing. But, leave DNB to Maxis & YTL.. doh.gif
Expensive wif cheapsmore telco... laugh.gif laugh.gif
30 mil U-CD-TM vs 10 mil Maxis-YTL

Waiting for U Home 5G on DNB 2 network. With SA or Advanced gigabit speed. Time to ditch fibre monopoly under TMnut..RM68 vs RM89 fibre. No contract somemore. TM need to cut fibre price when FWA is people choice for rental home user.
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wait la, we have uturn government.

now with backlash and questions from other telco, we will see if they change it
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post Nov 4 2024, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Nov 4 2024, 08:17 AM)
wait la, we have uturn government.

now with backlash and questions from other telco, we will see if they change it
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I have never seen a u-turn at this magnitude before and if it really happened, I really salute 🫡 U Mobile can’t even get their 4G right.
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Nov 4 2024, 08:17 AM)
wait la, we have uturn government.

now with backlash and questions from other telco, we will see if they change it
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Agree. There are still room for maneuver depending on how the telcos strategise. Who will become the largest shareholder of DNB once U Mobile exit? Who willing or force to take over DNB shares from MOF when DNB is privatised? Is Celcomdigi willing to be subcon for U Mobile to helpit setup the 2nd 5G? and more importantly, our telcos uses a lot of China equipment. Anyone of them willing to switch to Ericcson to harmonise the network?

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QUOTE(lolabunny123 @ Nov 4 2024, 08:45 AM)
I have never seen a u-turn at this magnitude before and if it really happened, I really salute 🫡 U Mobile can’t even get their 4G right.
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i think dns uturn was a more embarrassing one on a scale that even americans were making fun of us.

this 5g uturn wont have that much international coverage and embarrassment, just us having to deal with the same thing for the past 2 years.

the obvious choice would have been maxis, with most enterprise users not moving from them.

best to give those who run our economy the best, least congested network imo
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post Nov 4 2024, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Oct 29 2024, 08:47 AM)
5g sucks for all networks thanks to dnb and thanks to 5g broadband usage
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Frankly speaking, all this because telco don't limit the 5G speed. All go for best effort. Even 10Gbps bandwidth will get used up on high demand towers.
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Nov 4 2024, 10:31 AM)
i think dns uturn was a more embarrassing one on a scale that even americans were making fun of us.

this 5g uturn wont have that much international coverage and embarrassment, just us having to deal with the same thing for the past 2 years. 

the obvious choice would have been maxis, with most enterprise users not moving from them.

best to give those who run our economy the best, least congested network imo
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MCMC could have taken the approach of awarding this project to 2 telcos, balancing DNB and 2nd 5G.

QUOTE(poh880 @ Nov 4 2024, 10:59 AM)
Frankly speaking, all this because telco don't limit the 5G speed. All go for best effort. Even 10Gbps bandwidth will get used up on high demand towers.
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If they do so just like how Celcomdigi limit their 5G to 100mbps, 5G is even slower then existing 4G. But I guest the reason of limiting 5G speed is to prevent over usage of quota which need to be pay to DNB.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2024, 04:58 PM)
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If U Mobile's DNB2 launches as 5G SA with a low-band frequency of 600MHz (eg 2X20MHz = 800Mbps bandwidth capacity) = the 5G cell tower has a long range of >2km, DNB2 can achieve 80% coverage in about 1 year.
....... By not over-selling initially, eg limit 100 subscribers per 5G cell tower, each active subscriber can get 8Mbps during peak traffic hours in urban areas. More subscribers (up to 500 per cell tower) can later be added as more 5G cell towers are built/deployed together with the shorter range mid-band frequency of 3500MHz.

In comparison, DNB1 launched as 5G NSA with the mid-band frequency of 3500MHz (1X200MHz) = it's 5G cell towers have a short range of <1km = more cell towers needed to be built/deployed to cover a certain area. Hence, it took DNB1 about 2 years to achieve 80% coverage.
....... On top of that, 5G NSA's mid-band frequency of 3500MHz has poor indoor signal and is recently also subjected to network congestion during peak traffic hours in urban areas as more 5G subscribers are added.
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DNB 5G now is 100mhz x 2 but only get 1Gbps, how low band 2x20mhz can get to 800mbps?

QUOTE(poh880 @ Nov 4 2024, 10:59 AM)
Frankly speaking, all this because telco don't limit the 5G speed. All go for best effort. Even 10Gbps bandwidth will get used up on high demand towers.
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That is the reason quota plan is exist since day 1. unlimited quota should not exist but some "telco" spoiled the market at 4G, and cannot fallback when 5G comes.

QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 4 2024, 04:54 PM)
MCMC could have taken the approach of awarding this project to 2 telcos, balancing DNB and 2nd 5G.
If they do so just like how Celcomdigi limit their 5G to 100mbps, 5G is even slower then existing 4G. But I guest the reason of limiting 5G speed is to prevent over usage of quota which need to be pay to DNB.
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limit speed is something like our old fiber time, everyone 10mbps and congest TM backbone, release all bandwidth as huge as possible let the traffic complete earlier is way better than limit the speed, things can be transferred within second but u limit it, the traffic will occupy the bandwidth and next usage is limited also
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2024, 04:58 PM)
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If U Mobile's DNB2 launches as 5G SA with a low-band frequency of 600MHz (eg 2X20MHz = 800Mbps bandwidth capacity) = the 5G cell tower has a long range of >2km, DNB2 can achieve 80% coverage in about 1 year.
....... By not over-selling initially, eg limit 100 subscribers per 5G cell tower, each active subscriber can get 8Mbps during peak traffic hours in urban areas. More subscribers (up to 500 per cell tower) can later be added as more 5G cell towers are built/deployed together with the shorter range mid-band frequency of 3500MHz.

In comparison, DNB1 launched as 5G NSA with the mid-band frequency of 3500MHz (1X200MHz) = it's 5G cell towers have a short range of <1km = more cell towers needed to be built/deployed to cover a certain area. Hence, it took DNB1 about 2 years to achieve 80% coverage.
....... On top of that, 5G NSA's mid-band frequency of 3500MHz has poor indoor signal and is recently also subjected to network congestion during peak traffic hours in urban areas as more 5G subscribers are added.
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Nov 4 2024, 05:32 PM)
DNB 5G now is 100mhz x 2 but only get 1Gbps, how low band 2x20mhz can get to 800mbps?

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.... According to Digital Nasional Berhad’s Reference Access Offer (RAO), telcos will have to pay RM30,000 per Gbps per month to access the national 5G network. ...
https://soyacincau.com/2023/08/24/customers...-dnbs-response/ - 2023/08/24

= celcos are each paying DNB RM30k per month per cell tower for 1Gbps of 5G access.

So, to give you 2Gbps 5G speedtest, your celco would have to pay DNB1 RM60k per month per cell tower = RM720 million per year.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Nov 4 2024, 10:41 PM
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Can i port in to umobile from maxis with supplementary lines? Do I need to bring everyone to the center? D:
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QUOTE(arshad @ Nov 4 2024, 08:26 PM)
Can i port in to umobile from maxis with supplementary lines? Do I need to bring everyone to the center? D:
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Principal line holder is the one need to be doing the transfer. Principal line is like master, you don't pay is your name going into CTOS. 😆 Every supplementary lines must port in together.

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Fyi, .......

QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Nov 4 2024, 06:40 PM)
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.... According to Digital Nasional Berhad’s Reference Access Offer (RAO), telcos will have to pay RM30,000 per Gbps per month to access the national 5G network. ...
https://soyacincau.com/2023/08/24/customers...-dnbs-response/ - 2023/08/24

= celcos are each paying DNB RM30k per month per cell tower for 1Gbps of 5G access.

So, to give you 2Gbps 5G speedtest, your celco would have to pay DNB1 RM60k per month per cell tower = RM720 million per year.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Nov 4 2024, 10:35 PM)
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Fyi, .......

Is the above a reasonable or fair price.? .......

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...st-implication/ - 2023/05/05 - second-5g-network-sparks-debate-on-ownership-cost-implication
.... In 2022, DNB announced that the SWN model would cost telco operators RM30,000 per Gbps (gigabit per second) a month (or 13 sen per GB) on 5G leasing charges.

Assuming a take-up rate of 1,000Gbps, this would ultimately cost the telcos a whopping RM360 million a year to provide 5G to consumers.

This comes on top of fixed upfront fees, which must be paid regardless of DNB’s progress with population coverage. ...

= Maxis is paying the RM360 million per year while other celcos are paying RM288 million per year (= access fewer 5G cell towers than Maxis)
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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...dustry-veteran/ - DNB’s proposed 5G rates for telcos ‘quite expensive’, says industry veteran
Robin Augustin - 06 May 2022, 08:15 AM

Ex-Jaring CEO Mohamed Awang Lah says it could discourage buy-in from telecommunications companies.

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DNB2 or U Mobile may be a cost saviour for other celcos.
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QUOTE(arshad @ Nov 4 2024, 08:26 PM)
Can i port in to umobile from maxis with supplementary lines? Do I need to bring everyone to the center? D:
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can, Umobile have U FamilyShare line, RM38 per line. If you only need up to 4 lines in total can get the new U Family 128(RM128) plan.
Better than paying RM98/68(principal) + 38 + 38 + etc.
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Hows the global roaming? Working good kah?
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QUOTE(Nyan1234 @ Nov 2 2024, 01:08 PM)
Hey everyone, my latest bill just came out, and it turns out U Mobile has charged me for both my old and new plans. I’ve already filed a complaint through the app and contacted customer service. The rep confirmed it’s likely an error and promised to report it. But it’s been a few days now, and I haven’t received any updates. Any advice on what I should do next?

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Hi guys, anyone know what is the termination fee for Umobile 28 Borneo with no device, postpaid.
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QUOTE(Nyan1234 @ Oct 1 2024, 01:54 AM)
I just upgraded my U Postpaid plan from U Postpaid 38 to U Postpaid 68 on the first day of my new billing cycle. However, I noticed that the new unbilled amount is RM 112.36.
 
Is that mean I will be charged for both the old U Postpaid 38 plan and the new U Postpaid 68 plan in the next billing cycle? This seems unreasonable for me. Thanks if anyone can answer my inquiry.
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