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post Apr 3 2021, 07:25 PM

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Hello all, I need router recommendation for my new house. It’s relatively a small house, only around 805sqft. However, I will have a lot of smart home devices connected to the router. So I will need to ensure my connection is strong all the time at every corner of the house and also at the main door as I have a camera and smart lock installed.

I will temporarily subscribe to Digi or Celcom Fibre before subscribing to TIME. TIME confirms it will come to my place eventually but needs some time. Eventually I may subscribe a minimum 500Mbps plan.

Any router that is around RM 500 or I can stretch to RM 600? Must be able to use for all above ISPs. None of my devices will be connected via wired LAN, pure wireless connection. Should I also invest into Mesh system? Last but not least, it must be fast to reconnect back if there’s any disconnection or router restarts.

I will prefer Asus due to its consistent update but if other brands are also good and easy to set up, I’m OK. I’m not so good in networking technical stuff but the basic knowledge I’m still OK, so long it has clear tutorial for me to follow.

I will need it only in 2-3 months time, so I still have time for this. Feel free to suggest ya. Thanks!
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post Apr 3 2021, 10:49 PM

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Hi, will be soon upgrading to Unifi 800mbps and am interested to upgrade my house router / extender system to a wifi mesh system

Want to ask which setup is recommended:
1. TP Link X20 (3 pack)
2. TP Link X60 (2 pack)
3. TP Link M9 Plus (2 pack)

My house is a typical 2 1/2 story 20 x 70 foot link house

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post Apr 4 2021, 10:08 AM

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Bought a two piece set of M5 and was a little disappointed with the range / Internet strength. It doesn't go through the walls as good as I thought they would be. And the strength goes down quite drastically as I move further away from the router (although with zero obstruction)

I'm on Time 500 Mbps, when I run Speedtest on my phone on 2.4ghz band, I get the following:-
- around 110 mbps when I stand right beside it
- around 50 mbps when I stand 10 metres from it


Silly question, is the cable connecting the M5 to the Router, a standard Lan cable? I tried to swap it with another longer Lan cable of mine but I can't get the M5 working... Have to switch it back to the default cable..
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post Apr 4 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 3 2021, 07:25 PM)
Hello all, I need router recommendation for my new house. It’s relatively a small house, only around 805sqft. However, I will have a lot of smart home devices connected to the router. So I will need to ensure my connection is strong all the time at every corner of the house and also at the main door as I have a camera and smart lock installed.

I will temporarily subscribe to Digi or Celcom Fibre before subscribing to TIME. TIME confirms it will come to my place eventually but needs some time. Eventually I may subscribe a minimum 500Mbps plan.

Any router that is around RM 500 or I can stretch to RM 600? Must be able to use for all above ISPs. None of my devices will be connected via wired LAN, pure wireless connection. Should I also invest into Mesh system? Last but not least, it must be fast to reconnect back if there’s any disconnection or router restarts.

I will prefer Asus due to its consistent update but if other brands are also good and easy to set up, I’m OK. I’m not so good in networking technical stuff but the basic knowledge I’m still OK, so long it has clear tutorial for me to follow.

I will need it only in 2-3 months time, so I still have time for this. Feel free to suggest ya. Thanks!
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If it's a relatively small space, take a look at the Asus AX3000. I've had good experiences with this, getting up to 200+ Mhz all over my 2 storey link house on a Unifi 500 connection. And it's around your budget.
2 main plus points on top of the coverage. It's Asus so you can add almost any other Asus router to form an Aimesh network if you need mesh later. Even an old one, or a small plug in repeater. Secondly it's wifi 6 (AX) so future proof, at least for a while.

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post Apr 4 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kkm @ Apr 4 2021, 10:48 AM)
If it's a relatively small space, take a look at the Asus AX3000. I've had good experiences with this, getting up to 200+ Mhz all over my 2 storey link house on a Unifi 500 connection. And it's around your budget.
2 main plus points on top of the coverage. It's Asus so you can add almost any other Asus router to form an Aimesh network if you need mesh later. Even an old one, or a small plug in repeater. Secondly it's wifi 6 (AX) so future proof, at least for a while.
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I assume you meant Mbps right? tongue.gif

Thanks for your kind recommendation, I will look into it. Looks good from what you described.
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post Apr 6 2021, 12:19 PM

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Hi, May i know the what is your VLAN settings for Unifi? For streaming..
Coz I dont see anywhere people talking about this sad.gif

I have TP LINK Router AX73..

Please do help me in the picture given...

let me know all the settings pls....

im noob....

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post Apr 7 2021, 02:54 AM

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Is it worth paying additional RM 140 for Asus TUF Gaming AX3000? Or just settle with the normal AX3000? Good enough? I’m not a gamer (I only play Switch lol) but I want good and stable WiFi connection around the house especially for 2.4GHz as a lot of my smart home devices are only able to connect to 2.4GHz. I won’t want to use LAN cable by the way. I intend to keep everything wireless in my small house. tongue.gif

I’m using iPhone 12 Pro Max and Lenovo Carbon X1 if that matters.

blacktubi, care to shed some lights here? I read your review on your site and after that I am torn between the gaming and normal version. laugh.gif
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post Apr 7 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 02:54 AM)
Is it worth paying additional RM 140 for Asus TUF Gaming AX3000? Or just settle with the normal AX3000? Good enough? I’m not a gamer (I only play Switch lol) but I want good and stable WiFi connection around the house especially for 2.4GHz as a lot of my smart home devices are only able to connect to 2.4GHz. I won’t want to use LAN cable by the way. I intend to keep everything wireless in my small house. tongue.gif

I’m using iPhone 12 Pro Max and Lenovo Carbon X1 if that matters.

blacktubi, care to shed some lights here? I read your review on your site and after that I am torn between the gaming and normal version. laugh.gif
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Have you considered a dedicated wireless access point and use the stock ISP router for routing purpose only. A ubiquiti Unifi AC lite is what I would consider as it's capable of handling 200 concurrent clients. It's also convenient as it's powered by power over Ethernet connection.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 02:54 AM)
Is it worth paying additional RM 140 for Asus TUF Gaming AX3000? Or just settle with the normal AX3000? Good enough? I’m not a gamer (I only play Switch lol) but I want good and stable WiFi connection around the house especially for 2.4GHz as a lot of my smart home devices are only able to connect to 2.4GHz. I won’t want to use LAN cable by the way. I intend to keep everything wireless in my small house. tongue.gif

I’m using iPhone 12 Pro Max and Lenovo Carbon X1 if that matters.

blacktubi, care to shed some lights here? I read your review on your site and after that I am torn between the gaming and normal version. laugh.gif
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How many smart home devices you have and what brands are those?

Certain smart home devices do not work properly on WiFi 6.
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post Apr 7 2021, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Apr 7 2021, 10:13 AM)
Have you considered a dedicated wireless access point and use the stock ISP router for routing purpose only. A ubiquiti Unifi AC lite is what I would consider as it's capable of handling 200 concurrent clients. It's also convenient as it's powered by power over Ethernet connection.
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Hmm.. I can consider this option too.. In this case, I will need a few APs right?

QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 7 2021, 10:16 AM)
How many smart home devices you have and what brands are those?

Certain smart home devices do not work properly on WiFi 6.
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I will mainly use for smart bulbs and will be handled by Tmall Genie (天猫精灵), quite a lot of bulbs actually. It's China brand - TOSPO 得邦照明, the route will be from bulbs and connect to Tmall Genie.

Others are like Xiaomi robot vacuum and rice cooker. I have Abrain door smart lock and Eken V7 doorbell+cloud camera. In addition, I also have smart curtains also will be handled by Tmall Genie or Xiaomi Xiaoai. If that matters as well, I will have Daikin aircons that have WiFi capability for me to use the smart app. Last but not least, my smart TV is Sony 55" X8000H and will use with Astro Ultra Box.

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post Apr 7 2021, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 10:28 AM)
Hmm.. I can consider this option too.. In this case, I will need a few APs right?
I will mainly use for smart bulbs and will be handled by Tmall Genie (天猫精灵), quite a lot of bulbs actually. It's China brand - TOSPO 得邦照明, the route will be from bulbs and connect to Tmall Genie.

Others are like Xiaomi robot vacuum and rice cooker. I have Abrain door smart lock and Eken V7 doorbell+cloud camera. In addition, I also have smart curtains also will be handled by Tmall Genie or Xiaomi Xiaoai. If that matters as well, I will have Daikin aircons that have WiFi capability for me to use the smart app. Last but not least, my smart TV is Sony 55" X8000H and will use with Astro Ultra Box.

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Since your home is less than 900 square feet, I think just one will suffice especially a Unifi AC lite AP. Else there's the Unifi AC LR (long range).
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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Apr 7 2021, 11:51 AM)
Since your home is less than 900 square feet, I think just one will suffice especially a Unifi AC lite AP. Else there's the Unifi AC LR (long range).
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Thanks for the suggestion, let me read through this as well. Hopefully not difficult to set up.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 10:28 AM)
Hmm.. I can consider this option too.. In this case, I will need a few APs right?
I will mainly use for smart bulbs and will be handled by Tmall Genie (天猫精灵), quite a lot of bulbs actually. It's China brand - TOSPO 得邦照明, the route will be from bulbs and connect to Tmall Genie.

Others are like Xiaomi robot vacuum and rice cooker. I have Abrain door smart lock and Eken V7 doorbell+cloud camera. In addition, I also have smart curtains also will be handled by Tmall Genie or Xiaomi Xiaoai. If that matters as well, I will have Daikin aircons that have WiFi capability for me to use the smart app. Last but not least, my smart TV is Sony 55" X8000H and will use with Astro Ultra Box.

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In this case I will suggest you the RT-AC86U instead due to your 2.4Ghz smart home requirements.

The benefit of a mid-range WiFi 6 router is the faster WiFi speed at close range. The RT-AX3000 can go all the way to 800Mbps compared to 600Mbps on the RT-AC86U.

At long range especially after some walls, the RT-AC86U 5Ghz speed is faster in my test.

However, the main reason why I recommend this model is due to the class-leading 2.4Ghz signal on the RT-AC86U. I still find this router perform most reliably when dealing with IoT devices.

What router do you use now and do you face any dropping issues with your 2.4Ghz smart home devices?
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post Apr 7 2021, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 7 2021, 01:36 PM)
In this case I will suggest you the RT-AC86U instead due to your 2.4Ghz smart home requirements.

The benefit of a mid-range WiFi 6 router is the faster WiFi speed at close range. The RT-AX3000 can go all the way to 800Mbps compared to 600Mbps on the RT-AC86U.

At long range especially after some walls, the RT-AC86U 5Ghz speed is faster in my test.

However, the main reason why I recommend this model is due to the class-leading 2.4Ghz signal on the RT-AC86U. I still find this router perform most reliably when dealing with IoT devices.

What router do you use now and do you face any dropping issues with your 2.4Ghz smart home devices?
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Noted on your suggestion, I will check it out. thumbup.gif

No, I still haven't moved in yet. I intend to straight buy a better router for future proof. I plan to subscribe to Digi/Celcom Fibre before TIME comes in later which they confirmed they will need a bit of time but I have too many devices that need to use Internet, so I have to apply something temporarily.

If I were to subscribe to 500Mbps or 1Gbps later, won't have issue right?
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 02:12 PM)
Noted on your suggestion, I will check it out. thumbup.gif

No, I still haven't moved in yet. I intend to straight buy a better router for future proof. I plan to subscribe to Digi/Celcom Fibre before TIME comes in later which they confirmed they will need a bit of time but I have too many devices that need to use Internet, so I have to apply something temporarily.

If I were to subscribe to 500Mbps or 1Gbps later, won't have issue right?
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Not an issue since TIME should cover early termination fee up to RM500 anyways. Perhaps is better to go with TM as they should be easier to terminate. tongue.gif

If you want something truly future-proof, that will be the RT-AX86U which is currently one of the fastest WiFi 6 routers in the market now but it may be slightly overbudget though.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 7 2021, 02:18 PM)
Not an issue since TIME should cover early termination fee up to RM500 anyways. Perhaps is better to go with TM as they should be easier to terminate. tongue.gif

If you want something truly future-proof, that will be the RT-AX86U which is currently one of the fastest WiFi 6 routers in the market now but it may be slightly overbudget though.
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I mean no issue if I use this router with TIME 500Mbps or 1Gbps? tongue.gif But TM needs to pay for the remaining months and RM 500 so it is not worth. laugh.gif I may only need to use for few months only.

Oh that doesn't look cheap.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 02:54 AM)
Is it worth paying additional RM 140 for Asus TUF Gaming AX3000? Or just settle with the normal AX3000? Good enough? I’m not a gamer (I only play Switch lol) but I want good and stable WiFi connection around the house especially for 2.4GHz as a lot of my smart home devices are only able to connect to 2.4GHz. I won’t want to use LAN cable by the way. I intend to keep everything wireless in my small house. tongue.gif

I’m using iPhone 12 Pro Max and Lenovo Carbon X1 if that matters.

blacktubi, care to shed some lights here? I read your review on your site and after that I am torn between the gaming and normal version. laugh.gif
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Before I bought my TUF AX3000 I also consider it between RT-AX3000
At the end I got TUF AX3000 as I want its VPN fusion, which allows me to connect different VPN server on multiple devices laugh.gif
Side note, RT-AX3000 support merlin firmware while TUF AX3000 doesn't cry.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Apr 7 2021, 02:52 PM)
Before I bought my TUF AX3000 I also consider it between RT-AX3000
At the end I got TUF AX3000 as I want its VPN fusion, which allows me to connect different VPN server on multiple devices laugh.gif
Side note, RT-AX3000 support merlin firmware while TUF AX3000 doesn't cry.gif
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I will use the stock firmware anyway, so not an issue for me. However, I have a lot of IoT devices and blacktubi suggested me with 86u instead. Now the question is should I stick to AC86u or AX86u? brows.gif But the price difference is too significant. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 7 2021, 03:07 PM)
I will use the stock firmware anyway, so not an issue for me. However, I have a lot of IoT devices and blacktubi suggested me with 86u instead. Now the question is should I stick to AC86u or AX86u? brows.gif But the price difference is too significant. laugh.gif
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Hahaha ok
As for AX86U or AX86U, seek for blacktubi sifu laugh.gif
But AX86U selling around RM 1.2k
How about AX82U? Price around RM 900+
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Hi sifus,
Want to ask i just installed TP Link X20 for my unifi, unfortunately realised that the unit only has 2 ports which one is taken by modem and the other taken by the HyppTV.
I want to ask any way to set the HyppTV port to be able to use with other devices? Eg Android TV Box?
Also any way to "force" devices to always stick to the 5ghz band instead of jumping between 2.4 and 5?
Thanks

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