I failed to bargain... Dr. How said RM5.6k for your case was introductory price and it was 2 yrs ago. Now it is RM6k already. 1 cent also cannot reduce. Anyway, I still decided to go for it. I got my upper set of teeth done last night. Now I'm officially in this Bracesians club already.

Btw, Kenny, Dr. How told me that you were interviewed by reporter and your case will be in newspaper soon. Mind to share with us what is it all about?

I also asked Dr. How about Daemon 3 and Daemon MX. I notice that he used these 2 terms interchangeably. Are they the same actually? At first he said he'll do Daemon MX for me. After a while, he said it's Daemon 3. Although the braces is already in my mouth, but I'm not sure whether it's 3 or MX. Sigh...

Besides, Dr. glued the braces at lower part of my teeth. This makes the braces visible even when i'm not smiling. Is this normal? Does anyone know the reason for this?

I was also told that it might be very painful and I might need painkiller. However, after 15 hours of having the braces on, I don't really feel painful. I only feel slightly pain when I try to bite. Is this normal?

p/s: who are the guy who pretend as girl you all are talking about? Just out of curiosity...

This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jun 23 2009, 04:19 PM

The reporter was asked about experience, reason why I wear braces, Any issue before braces, any issue after braces, etc lo.. I think she is Kuan Ming Chinese Newspaper reporter. I'm not sure when they will publish wor..

I am at How's klinik now. One of bracket is drop off..need to glue back. Later, if got chances, will as him about Damon 3 & mx..

No, Damon will not pain for 1st time. The wire is very thin for first time. For my case, 3rd day only start have feeling. You are right, you will feel the pain when only u bite somthing..

Regarding the backet placing on each teeth is different, depend on your teeth condition. Dr, glue it to make the teeth adjust it to correct position. After few month, he may remove the backet and glue it another position of the teeth. This is the way to tune the teeth in correct position.

Regarding the guy pretend as gals here, we don;t want to discuss much. As it's not related to this thread. Just don't like this kind of people only. Feel not honesty as forumer..

This post has been edited by kentcp: Jun 23 2009, 05:27 PM

Sorry but i am a girl pretending to be a guy too not intentionally pretending but for a reason. Going to extract my teeth tomorrow. I'm kind of scared ler. I need to extract 4 tooth . 2 upper, 2 lower. Not sure how mny will kena extracted tomolo. tomolo will know

Gals pretend as gals, we can understand..may be to aviod annoying message, etc. But guys pretend as gals ? what is the point ?!

ok, ok, back this this thread topic. Snowy, dun worry much.. nowaday, extraction of teeth is simple, fast, no pain and fast recovery. You won't suffer much compare to the old time. If you want to have fast recovery, make sure you eat heathy food, maintain high immune body system lo..

Don;t worry, a lot bracians here had extracted the teeth, and i didn't see any complain from them.

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Added on June 23, 2009, 7:40 pmJust now got sales gals chating with doc. So, i don't have chance to ask the damon question..

This post has been edited by kentcp: Jun 23 2009, 07:40 PM

About extraction, my ortho does not provide this service so i have to extract at a dental clinic and my ortho said once i've extracted all the teeth i can start installing braces, as fast as the day after my extration . I was like wow! it must be very painful . it is like right after extraction today and tomolo install braces?! crazy.. but the ortho insists that it is not painful one wor and she said the braces wont affect the 'hole' of the extracted teeth.. but i have to make an appointment for installing braces within a week after teeth extraction else the process will be less effective d. So tomolo going to see how long will it take to extract all the required teeth.

Snowy, your doc is make sense.. you are usng self-ligating braces, right ? if so, it will not hurt on first 2 days..u will only have the feeling when u bite something or put pressure on your teeth. After extraction, immediate or within a week install the braces, i believe can close the gap more faster..as the hole still "soft".. May be you can ask the reason from Doc.


if your doc is experienced doc, you have to trust the doc advices wor.. If not, no point you select the doc, right..

Dr. How said that you are going to take off your braces soon. Congratulations! So when will that be? Can post some photos after it's done? As kind of encouragement and motivation for the rest of us here.

Now I'm beginning to feel the discomfort and inconvenience of having the braces on. Cannot chew at all and the end of the archwire is causing ulcer. I tried to apply the dental wax but it took me 15 mins this morning to stick it on. Now is only upper jaw, I cannot imagine how will it be like when my lower jaw is installed with braces as well. I wonder how so many ppl can manage to go through this type of misery...

My mom said I pay so much for misery...

Sometimes its difficult to keep your faith when u dont hv supportive family. Sometimes i dunno what's wrong with my mom also. Everytime after appt, i will feel numb and difficult to bite and she purposely cook those super crispy frieds stuff that i cant even eat. When i first had my bite stopper there, i cant even bite properly. Nothing on the dinner table i'm able to eat. I ended up with kuah from the dishes, vegie and just mix with my rice and swallowed.

Its okla, u just have to take care yourself. Try to eat more when u're able to. And find your comfortable ways of eating. U find it difficult to put the dental wax now maybe cause you're still new. Soon you will find your way to stick it on without using mirror. Use bonjela or ulcer cream to treat your ulcer. Dont talk so much to minimize the irritation.

I'm having one ulcer now also. Not from my braces. But i bite my mouth when i was asleep. So poor thing. However, beginning stage of braces will be a bit susah la. Wait til u get your lower jaw will be a bit more susah than now. But 2-3 months after that, you wont hav all these problems anymore. Unless u bite your lips like me

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: Jun 24 2009, 03:20 PM

Sure, i will share the photo once I remove the braces I think u had saw some of my photo on pages 1, right? I also don't know when will de-braces yet.. may be Aug ?

At begin, you will have ulcer easily, because your teeth is tend outward, after the braces, the braces will touch on your lips for sure. Once you speak loudly or laugh, it will scratch your inner lips. I become less talk & laugh on initial phase.. Expecially, when our lips is dry, immedately will hurted and caused ulcer. Drink more plain water, don't let your body "heat up". After a month or two, the condition will better once teeth move in to nice position.

Yaya iam using self ligating one.. Just extracted my teeth and it was not as scary as what i had imagined lol .. still bleeding now haih.. My ortho said will pasang upper for me 1st then few months later only lower.. 1 week later going to extract another 2 and can install braces d. hehe.. cant wait

Nikki and Ken,

Thanks for the sharing and encouragement! I've been eating porridge for 4 meals now... Not sure how long I can stand this. Hopefully the pain won't last for too long.

Now I'm practising how to smile without showing teeth. I feel ashame to let ppl c my braces. I should have done this much earlier, when I was still in school. Now I'm working and old already. This is even worse as compared to school time. If I've kids in the future and their teeth are not nice, for sure I'll send them for braces as young as possible.

By the way, I have asked about the difference between Damon 3 and Damon MX in my earlier post. I found the answer in a website. Damon 3 and Damon 3MX are 2 different products. Mine should be Damon 3MX. Here's the link to the website:

Damon 3
Damon 3MX

If I understand Dr. How correctly, he mentioned that Damon 3 is not a good product because the brackets tend to break easily. Damon 3MX is better and more solid.

Ken,
Can't c ur photo clearly on page 1 ler. Any clearer b4 and after photos?

Nikki,
How's the progress of your braces? I've read some of your earlier post. You have ur braces on for around 8 months already right? How's it so far? Any obvious movement? Any photos to post?

Thanks!

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Added on June 24, 2009, 4:32 pmYou need to extract 4 teeth ar? Sound scary ler... Dr. How said extracting teeth can make face smaller, which sound attractive to me. Anyway, Dr. said I don't need extraction. If I insist to extract, I need at least 2 years to complete. If I don't extract, I should be able to complete in 18 months. I'm wondering if extracting wisdom teeth can help in making my face smaller Will ask Dr. during my next visit.

Another thing tat I'm curious in is... self-ligating. I only know the wire can move itself... but how? How does it know whether to move left or right? Out or in? Down or up? I'll try to ask Dr. about this in my next visit also. Hope he won't find me very fan....

This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jun 24 2009, 04:32 PM

You may check post number #398, 519, 605, and 968 for my pictures for progress.
Then u should be able to tell. hehehe

I should upload some pictures of my smiles also...hehehe

wow! your teeth move so fast! amazing!
hope my teeth can move so fast too...

i'll go home and snap some photo of my teeth also tonight, then upload

Yah, you should. Cos your teeth will move extremely fast especially for the first few months.
Now m teeth are more or less straight already. Just have to push in somemore and close gaps.

Ugly of Kenny - braces photo (Jan 2008 - Jun 2009)

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This post has been edited by kentcp: Jun 24 2009, 08:54 PM

wah... can see so clearly. The August pictures so scary. Hahaha

[quote=karynkhoo,Jun 24 2009, 04:18 PM]
Nikki and Ken,

Thanks for the sharing and encouragement! I've been eating porridge for 4 meals now... Not sure how long I can stand this. Hopefully the pain won't last for too long.

Now I'm practising how to smile without showing teeth. I feel ashame to let ppl c my braces. I should have done this much earlier, when I was still in school. Now I'm working and old already. This is even worse as compared to school time. If I've kids in the future and their teeth are not nice, for sure I'll send them for braces as young as possible.

By the way, I have asked about the difference between Damon 3 and Damon MX in my earlier post. I found the answer in a website. Damon 3 and Damon 3MX are 2 different products. Mine should be Damon 3MX. Here's the link to the website:

Damon 3
Damon 3MX

If I understand Dr. How correctly, he mentioned that Damon 3 is not a good product because the brackets tend to break easily. Damon 3MX is better and more solid.

Ken,
Can't c ur photo clearly on page 1 ler. Any clearer b4 and after photos?

Nikki,
How's the progress of your braces? I've read some of your earlier post. You have ur braces on for around 8 months already right? How's it so far? Any obvious movement? Any photos to post?

Thanks!


Ohh....now i understand d... my upper one is using damon 3 and lower is damon mx... Yeah my doc also told me the same, damon 3 has many prob especially easily broke off...like mine already broke after one day installed... so my doc wil put damon mx to replace it...

No need to feel shame la...I smile big big also to show my braces... sumtimes feel proud also haha..cos I have sumthing and experiencing sumthing that other ppl will never have.... right?

Nikki,
so kesian ur mum cook all the hard food for u... Luckily my mum is being very understanding...cook all the food longer so it bcome softer for me... then now my family all eat vege tat cooked extra soft together with me... only sumtimes my mum wil say i very mah fan

OMG! Kenny, ur case really looks complicated. Now I understand why reporter interviews you. And the Aug 2008 photo looks really scary... Especially the screws... Your teeth looks perfect now! Dr. How did magic on your teeth. Really worth the cost and the pain! Congratulations!

Btw, here are my photos:





This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jun 25 2009, 02:00 AM

ya lor. coz my teeth is very crowded plus it is protuding so need space to fit all teeth in the correct position. Ortho estimate 2 - 3 yrs time for a complete treatment .. sigh.. so long leh.. hopefully i will be able to take off braces before my graduation convo

My ortho also suggests me to extract my upper wisdom teeth coz it will make me feel discomfort in the future since my lower wisdom teeth growed in a 'sleeping' position . lol. and it is inside my gum and it will never come out d coz it has fully grown. The lower wisdom teeth seems cute on the xray.. just like a baby ..haha~

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Added on June 25, 2009, 9:01 amI have a deep bite problem too Hopefully i dun have to pasang all those scary stuffs ler.. scared ler

This post has been edited by snowy_sharz: Jun 25 2009, 09:01 AM

Kenny ar...

I wonder, during Aug 2008, the rubber zig zag like that, how u talk/eat ar? You can hardly open mouth rite? Looks so scary...