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post Jan 15 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 15 2021, 12:26 PM)
Most workshops should be able to do it. Rather the question is have you already found the rear disc brake set for the conversion?
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noted, is there any workshop that include the disc brake set?
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post Jan 15 2021, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Jan 15 2021, 03:45 PM)
noted, is there any workshop that include the disc brake set?
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I remember there was one, quite some years ago tho. But I don’t think it is in Klang or Shah Alam area. What’s your budget?
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post Jan 15 2021, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 15 2021, 07:09 PM)
I remember there was one, quite some years ago tho. But I don’t think it is in Klang or Shah Alam area. What’s your budget?
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i see usually around 1k plus minus kan?

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post Jan 15 2021, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Jan 15 2021, 06:35 PM)
i see usually around 1k plus minus kan?
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Not sure about the price now, but back then when I asked it was RM 600 for the rear discs from halfcut Gen2 or Waja, and another RM 150-200 for workmanship. Should be 1k now adjusting for inflation. Hahahaha.
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post Jan 17 2021, 01:03 AM

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Any recommendation for rear suspension parts brand? I'm looking at Shopee here, a 'Mitsubishi' brand parts costs about half the price of other local aftermarket brands such as Saiko and Schmaco, while supposed original Proton is the most expensive. Planning to do total restoration of the rear suspension.

I'm leaning towards the cheap 'Mitsubishi' brand here. I don't look for performance part or anything, just want an okay part that can last for at most 5 years. Or will buying cheap shopee parts will cause more headache in the future?
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post Jan 17 2021, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 17 2021, 01:03 AM)
Any recommendation for rear suspension parts brand? I'm looking at Shopee here, a 'Mitsubishi' brand parts costs about half the price of other local aftermarket brands such as Saiko and Schmaco, while supposed original Proton is the most expensive. Planning to do total restoration of the rear suspension.

I'm leaning towards the cheap 'Mitsubishi' brand here. I don't look for performance part or anything, just want an okay part that can last for at most 5 years. Or will buying cheap shopee parts will cause more headache in the future?
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I changed to muteki brand of long and short rear suspension link (tulang anjing) some times ago (200,000+km, until now 400,000km). Quite good and long lasting compared to original quality. You can search for their official shop online. All of their parts in orange colour.
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post Jan 17 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jan 17 2021, 11:36 AM)
I changed to muteki brand of long and short rear suspension link (tulang anjing) some times ago (200,000+km, until now 400,000km). Quite good and long lasting compared to original quality. You can search for their official shop online. All of their parts in orange colour.
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I'm a bit skeptical about Muteki, can't shake the feeling that it's the same as other local aftermarket part, but painted orange and priced higher.

Or maybe I don't really need rear suspension restoration. All the rubber bushings looks intact except the rear stabilizer link which has been reduced to a drying rot on a stick. I don't have any camber angle or rear tire issue, it's just a bit of creaking coming from the trailing arm bushing.
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post Jan 18 2021, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 17 2021, 03:12 PM)
I'm a bit skeptical about Muteki, can't shake the feeling that it's the same as other local aftermarket part, but painted orange and priced higher.

Or maybe I don't really need rear suspension restoration. All the rubber bushings looks intact except the rear stabilizer link which has been reduced to a drying rot on a stick. I don't have any camber angle or rear tire issue, it's just a bit of creaking coming from the trailing arm bushing.
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Well i don't really have other experience with parts of other brands. This is the first set i change. But its decent enough.

Just to note that if the creaking happened when you getting onto or off the car, mostly it's the suspension link that is gone.

Something notable of the bushing of stabilize link, ask your foreman don't screw it to total tightness, otherwise your new bushing will crack the moment your car lowered from jack. The correct way is to screw it until the bush cap flush with screw of your link.
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post Jan 20 2021, 10:19 PM

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Anyone have experience with Persona auto jerking when coming to a stop? Doesn't feel like it's engine problem, no RPM spike. Noticed my car is having a rough downshift right before stopping under 5km/h from 2nd gear to 1st. Problem become worse after ECU reset. After driving for awhile, it becomes okay, but the jerking still persists.
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post Jan 21 2021, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 15 2021, 08:39 AM)
Dah abandon ke? Not reviving the car anymore?
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not abandoned la.. just no reason to drive it at the moment.. still got valid roadtax
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post Jan 21 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 20 2021, 10:19 PM)
Anyone have experience with Persona auto jerking when coming to a stop? Doesn't feel like it's engine problem, no RPM spike. Noticed my car is having a rough downshift right before stopping under 5km/h from 2nd gear to 1st. Problem become worse after ECU reset. After driving for awhile, it becomes okay, but the jerking still persists.
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Might wanna check your gear oil level. Low gear oil can cause it. Happened to mine some time ago when one of the hoses leaked.
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post Jan 21 2021, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 21 2021, 03:39 PM)
Might wanna check your gear oil level. Low gear oil can cause it. Happened to mine some time ago when one of the hoses leaked.
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can confirm ATF level is low, nothing leaking, probably someone add only 3 liters instead of 4 or the mechanic didn't top up ATF after radiator replacement. now top up half a bottle, reached level as per manual. still the problem persists. or do I have to drive around for a bit until the ECU adjust to the new transmission fluid level?
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post Jan 21 2021, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 21 2021, 03:59 PM)
can confirm ATF level is low, nothing leaking, probably someone add only 3 liters instead of 4 or the mechanic didn't top up ATF after radiator replacement. now top up half a bottle, reached level as per manual. still the problem persists. or do I have to drive around for a bit until the ECU adjust to the new transmission fluid level?
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No puddles or red atf stains on the ground under your car where you park?

Sorry but I can’t make the connection between ATF & radiator replacement. When was the last time you serviced your gearbox?
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post Jan 21 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 21 2021, 04:04 PM)
No puddles or red atf stains on the ground under your car where you park?

Sorry but I can’t make the connection between ATF & radiator replacement. When was the last time you serviced your gearbox?
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Just checked the level just now. Seems like the level is around cold level after driving the car for 10 minutes. Probably faulty dipstick reading yesterday ago(?).

Says here last ATF change 11/2019. Still have 10,000km to use since car didn't move in 2020. Crawled under car, everything is dry, nothing dripping. A bit of oily mark around the side, probably uncleaned old spill or old engine oil (had a major valve cover gasket leak for years, so I'm not surprised if the oil reached there). ATF fluid looks okay and smells fine.

Transmission cooler line is connected to the radiator. I'm guessing when I had the radiator replaced, some amount of ATF spilled. But... the radiator was replaced a month before last ATF replacement. rclxub.gif So that probably means someone only add 3 liters...

Anyhow, any shopee seller to recommend to get Proton SP3 fluid? Sellers that sell Proton ATF SP3 for RM15 is original one?


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post Jan 21 2021, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 21 2021, 05:36 PM)
Just checked the level just now. Seems like the level is around cold level after driving the car for 10 minutes. Probably faulty dipstick reading yesterday ago(?).

Says here last ATF change 11/2019. Still have 10,000km to use since car didn't move in 2020. Crawled under car, everything is dry, nothing dripping. A bit of oily mark around the side, probably uncleaned old spill or old engine oil (had a major valve cover gasket leak for years, so I'm not surprised if the oil reached there). ATF fluid looks okay and smells fine.

Transmission cooler line is connected to the radiator. I'm guessing when I had the radiator replaced, some amount of ATF spilled. But... the radiator was replaced a month before last ATF replacement.  rclxub.gif So that probably means someone only add 3 liters...

Anyhow, any shopee seller to recommend to get Proton SP3 fluid? Sellers that sell Proton ATF SP3 for RM15 is original one?
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It should be around that price. I have been out of touch with Persona parts price for some time now, haha. But proton ATF generally runs around RM 15-20.

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post Jan 23 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 21 2021, 06:37 PM)
It should be around that price. I have been out of touch with Persona parts price for some time now, haha. But proton ATF generally runs around RM 15-20.
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actually, how long does the ATF can last inside the transmission unused?

I think i might looked at the service reminder sticker wrongly. 11/2019 wasn't the laqst service date. It was the time for next service. but the fluid still nowhere near 20,000km mileage because the car spends most of its time parked. So I think the ATF fluid might be some 3+ years old. Manual says to change every 2 to 2.5 years.

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post Jan 23 2021, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 23 2021, 03:45 PM)
actually, how long does the ATF can last inside the transmission unused?

I think i might looked at the service reminder sticker wrongly. 11/2019 wasn't the laqst service date. It was the time for next service. but the fluid still nowhere near 20,000km mileage because the car spends most of its time parked. So I think the ATF fluid might be some 3+ years old. Manual says to change every 2 to 2.5 years.
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For something cheaper than engine oil, don’t skimp lah. The purpose of changing oil is more than just flushing out old or contaminated oil; you’re also flushing out all the dirt and debris from your transmission. Speaking of which, ATF filter is another component often overlooked by car owners when it comes to car maintenance.

Old, oxidised or contaminated ATF may cause extra friction and increase wear in the transmission.
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post Jan 23 2021, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jan 23 2021, 05:06 PM)
For something cheaper than engine oil, don’t skimp lah. The purpose of changing oil is more than just flushing out old or contaminated oil; you’re also flushing out all the dirt and debris from your transmission. Speaking of which, ATF filter is another component often overlooked by car owners when it comes to car maintenance.

Old, oxidised or contaminated ATF may cause extra friction and increase wear in the transmission.
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My bad. Time flies. Only today I remember changing the ATF back when my friend still selling milo ais kepal, asked him and he said that was back in 2017. doh.gif

Also I learned today that RM15 Proton ATF SP3 is not original. Only noticed after I top up half of a bottle - the product description at the back got horrible typos and the texts are all over the place. Probably won't cause anything major but I'll drain the transmission once I get a good original ATF.

Mizu brand ATF SP3 any good? This seems to be the cheapest. Other brand that in my cart includes Mitsubishi SP3 and Aisin AFW+, both are a bit cheaper than buying 4 liters of proton brand.
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post Jan 23 2021, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 23 2021, 09:05 PM)
My bad. Time flies. Only today I remember changing the ATF back when my friend still selling milo ais kepal, asked him and he said that was back in 2017.  doh.gif

Also I learned today that RM15 Proton ATF SP3 is not original. Only noticed after I top up half of a bottle - the product description at the back got horrible typos and the texts are all over the place. Probably won't cause anything major but I'll drain the transmission once I get a good original ATF.

Mizu brand ATF SP3 any good? This seems to be the cheapest. Other brand that in my cart includes Mitsubishi SP3 and Aisin AFW+, both are a bit cheaper than buying 4 liters of proton brand.
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If it's only a bit, then go for proton branded. You'll never know how TCU acts on different fluid dynamics.
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post Jan 24 2021, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 23 2021, 09:05 PM)
My bad. Time flies. Only today I remember changing the ATF back when my friend still selling milo ais kepal, asked him and he said that was back in 2017.  doh.gif

Also I learned today that RM15 Proton ATF SP3 is not original. Only noticed after I top up half of a bottle - the product description at the back got horrible typos and the texts are all over the place. Probably won't cause anything major but I'll drain the transmission once I get a good original ATF.

Mizu brand ATF SP3 any good? This seems to be the cheapest. Other brand that in my cart includes Mitsubishi SP3 and Aisin AFW+, both are a bit cheaper than buying 4 liters of proton brand.
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Mitsubishi SP3

If you are considering Mitsubishi ATF, then I can vouch for this guy above. After the warranty for my car expired, I don’t send my car back to proton for servicing anymore. Every now and then I’ll drop by this guy’s shop at Jalan Kuching to buy my engine and ATF oil. The oil they sell is genuine and the price is really good too.

I still have his phone number if you need it. Otherwise you can just purchase from his shop on Lazada.

Do look for ATF filter to replace as well; 4 years never service the filter has to go.

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