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unknown warrior
post Sep 13 2018, 01:31 PM

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They got it wrong...I just saw snippet of the movie on The Nun & timeline history in youtube (I didn't watch any of the movies anyway)


stapling pages of the Bible on the wall, carving the name of the demon in the pages of the Bible and calling out the exact name of the demon.....not going to stop any demons.


haih....the ideas of what this worldly people comprehension on the powers of God and his kingdom........is really off the charts.


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post Sep 13 2018, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 13 2018, 01:31 PM)
Start of Rant#

They got it wrong...I just saw snippet of the movie on The Nun & timeline history in youtube (I didn't watch any of the movies anyway)
stapling pages of the Bible on the wall, carving the name of the demon in the pages of the Bible and calling out the exact name of the demon.....not going to stop any demons.
haih....the ideas of what this worldly people comprehension on the powers of God and his kingdom........is really off the  charts.
End of Rant#
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post Sep 13 2018, 10:07 PM

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Hollywood is rubbish in general. My US friends complain so much about these directors putting crap shows on tv rclxub.gif
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post Sep 15 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 13 2018, 10:13 AM)
Today, you can trace God when you study Israel how God has preserved them and gave them their land. That is your next physical evidence.
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Well, some may say the land of Israel is due to sacrifices made from their citizens. Some may said its due to USA assistance. Some may said they snatch the land via military force.

Hence the physical evidence you mentioned is just an assumption.
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post Sep 15 2018, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(MsiaqweR @ Sep 15 2018, 09:11 PM)
Well, some may say the land of Israel is due to sacrifices made from their citizens. Some may said its due to USA assistance. Some may said they snatch the land via military force.

Hence the physical evidence you mentioned is just an assumption.
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It is "not necessary" for Israel to be able to do what they're doing. They could fail badly as well for all that matter.

What matters is..before any of this....God has writen down the record...it's on Israel. That they will be preseved and be blessed among the nations that people may know there is God of Israel who is also the God of Christians.

Whether it is by USA or their own military might...still does not necessary mean they will be able to do what they're doing. America failed badly in the vietnam war so that tells you nothing is automatic victory just because they're supportive. If you pin point it's just Israel military might that is great, mind you they're a small nation against a host of Islamic nation that COULD NEVER subdue them smile.gif

So not an assumption to me because it is specific promised made by Almighty.

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post Sep 16 2018, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(MsiaqweR @ Sep 12 2018, 10:42 AM)
Well, if God is real, why doesn't He just reveal himself? Just reveal himself for 3 secs is more than enough to silence all critics once and for all....
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Haven't you read the Sacred Scriptures that God is a living God and God only reveals Himself to those who are pure ?
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post Sep 18 2018, 09:21 AM

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EVEN...the camel easier to go through the eye of a needle than Rich Man.... can be saved

Matthew 19:26 (NIV) - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.

Too often we think that the verse below implies that it's a great challenge for rich people to be saved.

Matthew 19:23-24 (NIV) - 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

Yet too often, verse 25 and 26 has been sideline or ignored. What does it say?

Jesus is saying..what is impossible with Man is not impossible for God. Meaning even such wealthy people can be saved and that is key importance.

By the virtue of this verse..there are some who teach in error and that wealth MUST be rejected and that Christian MUST live either in moderate or in poverty. Truth is, there is no such teaching from God. What Christ implore is not to seek wealth as the priority in life but God. God never teach, you must not be wealthy otherwise hard for you to be saved.

Let us not as Christian become ignorant or be a hypocrite in attacking others or condemning others with regards to this. Some thoughts for you to ponder.


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post Sep 19 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(pendekar mustar @ Sep 19 2018, 05:30 PM)
god is powerful and all knowing, no? why he let people die in this storm? i am curious of god's motive.
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Do you agree that God is a holy God and therefore does not tolerate evil or sin?

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post Sep 19 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(pendekar mustar @ Sep 19 2018, 09:57 PM)
yes. so ?
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If you can agree that God and Sin cannot mix then I'll explain, this world is a fallen world, tainted with Sin, hence God does not rule a fallen world but allow nature to run it's own course. Life and death is part of it's natural cycle. Because if God were to rule this earth, He will govern and rescue those that need help. There will be perfect harmony in this world.

Just to let you know..there is another god (small god) who rule this world, name is Satan. Most of the evil and confusion, started by this evil being. How he got this right to rule? That's another matter. (too long to explain)

But there will be a time in future where God will end this. It's call judgement day where the whole world, inc you...... will be judge for everything you've done or said. Even the people who died in accidents or disastors, their spirit don't die but will be brought before God for judgement.

The thing is......BEFORE any of this...God has given you a chance to repent of your sins and return to Him. Quite sure you've heard the gospel.

If you understood, what it's all about, God wants to end this world (because of it's pervasive evil), current world will be destroyed and there will be new Heaven and a New Earth where you are invited.

If You can come to terms with God, by admitting that you're sinner, you need God's help that you can't save yourself, God will accept you the moment you accept Christ Jesus (His Son) as your substitute, the one who saves you.

The thing is, what you wanted..that this world shouldn't have all these atrocity, evil, mishaps...disastors..is also what God wants. But as to why God allow everything to run as it is..I've just explained above.

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post Sep 20 2018, 08:20 AM

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Who is the Lamb, You or Christ?

John 1:29 (NIV) - The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

In the 1500 or 1600, the people back then thought that a baby receives blood from the mother through the placenta. However in today's medical science, we discover..the baby receive food from the mother, and not blood from the mother.

Did you know that the word of God says, Life is in the blood?

That is why Christ can be born sinless because He was not born of his earth father Joseph, neither was conceived through biological attachment of his earthly mother Mary.

Christ's blood, came from the Heavenly Father. This medical fact (baby does not receive blood from the mother) helps to reinforce the word of God is true, that ALL MAN has sin, that would include Mary.

Jesus is the ONLY one who is sinless in all there is in the world. That is why God the Father can only accept Christ as the perfect sacrifice, not you or anyone else. That goes along with "works"...only Christ perfect and FINISHED work is accepted by God the Father as justification for sin.

Do you know, back in the Old Testament, when a sinner goes to a Priest for sin atonement, the Priest does not examine the sinner? HE examines the animal sacrifice whether they have any blemish..because God will not accept blemish sacrifice.

The Bible says the OT is a shadow type or a copy of today's reality, with that being said, SAME THING, today God does not examine you when you come to God for justification for sin. Do you hear what I'm saying? I'm saying Today, God does not examine you, when you come to Him but He examines WHO IS YOUR LAMB.

I leave this revelation to your thoughts.

God Bless.



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post Sep 24 2018, 09:01 AM

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Morning Guys!

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Lyrics:

There's a table that You've prepared for me
In the presence of my enemies
It's Your body and Your blood You shed for me
This is how I fight my battles

There's a table that You've prepared for me
In the presence of my enemies
It's Your body and Your blood You shed for me
This is how I fight my battles

And I believe You've overcome and
I will lift my song of praise for what You've done

This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how

In the valley I know that You're with me
And surely Your goodness and Your mercy follow me
So my weapons are praise and thanksgiving
This is how I fight my battles

And I believe You've overcome and
I will lift my song of praise for what You've done

This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how

[Spontaneous]

It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You

This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how

It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You

This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles

It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded
But I'm surrounded by You

[Spontaneous]
[My victory's in Jesus' Name]


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post Sep 25 2018, 11:23 AM

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It's great to be alive to have Jesus Christ as your God.


Jeremiah 30:22 (NIV) - And you will be My people, and I will be your God."


When God says I will be your God, that means there will be providence, there will be protection, there will be answers in your life!

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post Sep 28 2018, 02:49 PM

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What exactly the meaning of this verse Matthew 7:21-23?

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ 23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’
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QUOTE(Vrese @ Sep 28 2018, 02:49 PM)
What exactly the meaning of this verse Matthew 7:21-23?

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ 23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’
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It just means that these people wasn't born again.

It's a false pretense, a claim that they knew God, participated with God (His Kingdom Work) but here God says He did not know them. Meaning there wasn't a relationship at all.

There are people who argued that these are Christians and they have fallen away..core argument is that they could lose Salvation.

For me...When God says He did not know them, God isn't doing a tongue in cheek statement..Because God cannot not lie. How can God says I never knew you 'IF" supposedly the person really did what they claim (demon deliverance, spoke with power, etc)? It would just mean God wasn't being truthful. God could have said "I knew you but....."

With that being said....For the verse to have correct context, they are people who were never born again. They lied about being able to do miracles or speaking on behalf of God.

God does not lie but people can lie. That is the point.

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post Sep 29 2018, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 29 2018, 12:23 PM)
It just means that these people wasn't born again.

It's a false pretense, a claim that they knew God, participated with God (His Kingdom Work) but here God says He did not know them. Meaning there wasn't a relationship at all.

There are people who argued that these are Christians and they have fallen away..core argument is that they could lose Salvation.

For me...When God says He did not know them, God isn't doing a tongue in cheek statement..Because God cannot not lie. How can God says I never knew you 'IF" supposedly the person really did what they claim (demon deliverance, spoke with power, etc)? It would just mean God wasn't being truthful. God could have said "I knew you but....."

With that being said....For the verse to have correct context, they are people who were never born again. They lied about being able to do miracles or speaking on behalf of God.

God does not lie but people can lie. That is the point.
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Thanks brother. Really appreciate your time spent answering me. I'm amazed on how details you guys capable of looking and reading the text. I hope I'm welcome to ask future question here if I have any.

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post Oct 1 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Vrese @ Sep 28 2018, 02:49 PM)
What exactly the meaning of this verse Matthew 7:21-23?

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ 23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’
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v21: I don't think it has anything to do with 'born again'. The term born again is being thrown around and used out of context. Here Jesus just means that many Christians claim to be Christians but do not feed the hungry, clothe the poor etc. In other words, just being 'Christian' just for the recognition akin to the Pharisees. This is common especially in a lot of mega-churches you see today where people join for for friends, to socialise or find business partners (see City Harvest Singapore scandal)

v22: Another common theme especially in Protestant Christianity is doing fake miracles as proof that God exist (i.e. healing blind/deaf). If this is true, these preachers are better than doctors and they should have contributed their powers to hospitals instead. Some even claim to have went to hell and back, elected by God, etc (see Phillip Mantofa) or preachers who do televangelism but do not live the life of Christ (see Benny Hinn).

It is best to interpreting by reading the whole chapter and not taking it out of context.
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Oct 1 2018, 08:36 PM)
v21: I don't think it has anything to do with 'born again'. The term born again is being thrown around and used out of context. Here Jesus just means that many Christians claim to be Christians but do not feed the hungry, clothe the poor etc. In other words, just being 'Christian' just for the recognition akin to the Pharisees. This is common especially in a lot of mega-churches you see today where people join for for friends, to socialise or find business partners (see City Harvest Singapore scandal)
May i know what is your definition of the term 'born again' here?

v22: Another common theme especially in Protestant Christianity is doing fake miracles as proof that God exist (i.e. healing blind/deaf). If this is true, these preachers are better than doctors and they should have contributed their powers to hospitals instead. Some even claim to have went to hell and back, elected by God, etc (see Phillip Mantofa) or preachers who do televangelism but do not live the life of Christ (see Benny Hinn).
I agree with unknown warrior that God cannot lie. Someone who practice Christianity but doing it differently shouldn't be categorised under this. We should take note that someone who strongly believe in something that he did right are not pretending. The individual just didn't know that they did it wrongly..again God could have said "I knew you but....."

It is best to interpreting by reading the whole chapter and not taking it out of context.
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Forwarded from my friend to me in WhatsApp and I would like to share here.

Too damn many contradictions in the Bible !!!

1) Does God loves everyone?
Yes, he loves everyone.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

No, he hates some people.
Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
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2) Can God be found?
God will be found by those who seek Him.
Proverbs 8:17
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

God will not be found by those who seek Him.
Proverbs 1:28
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me.
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3) Is God the creator of evil?
Yes
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

No
Psalm 5:4
For thou not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee
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These are just a few I shared, there are tons and tons of other contradictions found which I lazy to share here.

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